I almost lost faith in God when I was losing battles in the dream to marine spirits, I will pray so hard and go to bed, they attack me and win me smoothly, I started doubting if God is actually as powerful as we describe him, then I started losing faith, I wept and slept, God then answered my prayers and made me to start killing them and winning battles.

Second time I almost lost my faith in God was when I was so tired of being jobless, I was so depressed, I went to church so sad, I was crying in the church, it became so bad that I left the church midway and went home to cry fully, cause I really needed to cry and let go of the heaviness in my heart, so I went home, cried so much, slept from there and woke up with a big joy in my heart, the type of joy you get when you receive 1m alert, I dunno how God removed serious depression and put joy.

The next week, I became depressed again about the job issue, then I slept and God talked to me, told me somethings, I felt happy.

I prayed with my seer friend, he gave me 3 prophecies which is in line with my prayers, it increased my faith cause it meant God is aware of my problems, so I held on to it and I no longer get depressed.

I started losing battles again, I wept and doubted God's power again, that was when I dreamt and saw Jesus Christ and ever since that day, I have never lost battles to marine spirits.

Ever since that day I saw Jesus Christ, he empowered me, and I have never been depressed again.

The devil will so much frustrate your life that you will begin to doubt if God actually exist or if he actually called you, at some point I will be like, "am I really a prophet?, did God even call me, but God will always tell me, yes you are a prophet.

May God help us in Jesus name. Amen.

Koolyarn:


But there are so many developed countries who have faith in God as the source .

Need I remind you that more than 78 percent of Noble Prize winners ( highest science award) were Christians? Google it for yourself

RUBBISH!!!

The highest award set up by European Christians to award themselves accolades is your own proof. This is why education has failed the black man, they read and memorise and regurgitate. They cannot APPLY their education to practical problems and challenges.

Offpoint1:
Too many unanswered prayers, I quit praying and start working more, building myself more, learning more skills and I start getting results and I say what's the point? Everything you prayed for doesn't happen until you work for it... then what's the point of the prayers? If I asked my earthly father's stuffs and he continuously doesn't give me until I work for it, what's the point of asking? let me start working for it since it's more effective than asking for it.

There are too many things we don't want to speak up both Christians and Muslims because we're too afraid of the hell threats... 50% of humans are serving God out of fear of hell, the rest 50% are serving God out of personal greed which is promised of heaven.

If you're down at accident scene with injuries, no amount of prayers will save you if you're not taking to hospital for medical attention
In sickness it's still the same
In needs your fellow humans will be at your mercy when you speak up or when they noticed the signs.

Maybe the Brain behind our existence Left us to our own faith,
Maybe he made us to be our own gods by having each others backs.

I've gotten to the stage I'm no longer afraid to ask questions, I've stopped buying that "you can't question God" lines pastors and preachers had been giving me... I've stopped buying "the portal and clay" analogy. Clay doesn't complain about how the portal mould it because it's an inanimate object with no consciousness... Don't expect me to be like that.

Don't mistake me for an atheist

You are among the relative few who have observed that life is the way it is if the following are true:
(1) There are no god(s).
(2) Humans are on their own and left to fend for themselves. There is no divine intervention from anywhere to aid anyone.

specialmati:
;Dplsam 14 vrs 1 says something there.it says The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God .no be me write it ooo

Nonsense!!!

You believe your bible, I don’t!

I can send you pictures of where the bible was written, edited and modified for colonial manipulation of people and world conquest.

The same yeye book that the Chinese are now printing and sending to Africa with Chinese Jesus! Black man has no sense!

Offpoint1:
The Topic discussed was on prayer and faith, in the cause of discussion you brought in the lines of prayers not being answered because of sins (as expected) you have no idea why and what the reason for unanswered prayer was.
I don't wanna drag on as long as you're too afraid to answer my questions.

I never brought in the idea that prayer is not answered as a result of sins. In fact, I don't buy that reasoning because it is not based on what Jesus Christ Himself, the one who defines what sin is, taught His disciples.

Excuse me for thinking out loud for a moment....

* When we ask for forgiveness, God does not forgive us some of our sins, but all of them. So when God has forgiven me all of my sins, why then would God immediately penalize me(refuse to answer my requests) because of Sins He has already forgiven me for?

* Yeah, there is more to it than the claim that it is because of sin. And if sin, should I know which sin it is? I mean there are only about 46 commandments in total in the New Covenant, the Law as far as the Kingdom of Heaven is concerned, so it doesn't help to arbitrarily claim that my requests were denied because of sin?

* If I accept(trust) and obey the teachings of Jesus Christ yet I continue to wonder why God has yet to give me the ice-cream I asked Him for 2 weeks ago, it makes no sense to conclude that sin is the reason for the delay given I already obey His teachings and according to Him, that means I am free from sin.

Offpoint1:

You know the solution I'm talking about... Vaccines should be expected from scientists and not church.

What solution ?

IM STILL WONDERING HOW GOD IS BLESDING YAOOO. BUT KERP ME WRETCHED EVEN WITH LEVEL OF EDUCATION, FASTING ANG PRAYET

Amanda4life:
IM STILL WONDERING HOW GOD IS BLESDING YAOOO. BUT KERP ME WRETCHED EVEN WITH LEVEL OF EDUCATION, FASTING ANG PRAYET

God's mercy and compassion is not just on those who believe in Him. It rains daily on all of mankind, the wicked and the ungrateful as well. Miracles happen even to the unbelievers, on a regular basis as well. So don't for one second think that God is only good to those who believe in Him.

No, God's grace, was poured out in the beginning, on all of mankind. He blessed man and commanded that He be fruitful, and then multiply. That was God's blessing and that blessing exists to this day even in the unbelieving world.

However, for those who choose to believe in Him, He commands that you trust and accept His teachings believing that by submitting to His lead and His Will, He will do in and through you more than He does for those who refuse Him.

Offpoint1:

I don't like engaging people regarding God, your mindset towards God differs from mine, I won't force you to have same mindset with me... Practice what works for you.

now i get continue with your ways

specialmati:
hmmmm i dont know what to say again but what if He was directing you to people you must have meet.alot of orphans are in school and people are sponsoring them.

Why would God redirect someone somewhere without the person in question being made known of such redirect as you assume?

Where in the Bible does Jesus Christ tell you that when you ask God for a thing, God could instead do what you state above?

ibedun:


Nonsense!!!

You believe your bible, I don’t!

I can send you pictures of where the bible was written, edited and modified for colonial manipulation of people and world conquest.

The same yeye book that the Chinese are now printing and sending to Africa with Chinese Jesus! Black man has no sense!

indeed black man has no sense let start from you.you believe there is no God because chinese are printing and sending chinese jesus to africa and you don want to believe my own side that said that its only a fool say there is no God. ok why not keep your believe to yourself wise black man

Kobojunkie:
Why would God redirect someone somewhere without the person in question being made known of such redirect as you assume?

Where in the Bible does Jesus Christ tell you that when you ask God for a thing, God could instead do what you state above?

come closer need to check your level of understanding what did you just say

specialmati:
come closer need to check your level of understanding what did you just say

answer the questions.

Kobojunkie:
Why would God redirect someone somewhere without the person in question being made known of such redirect as you assume?

Where in the Bible does Jesus Christ tell you that when you ask God for a thing, God could instead do what you state above?

Kobojunkie:
answer the questions.

whats the question what did you understand with what i wrote

specialmati:
whats the question what did you understand with what i wrote

Go ahead and explain what you wrote then since you think my questions are not valid. What did you mean by your response there?

Kobojunkie:
Go ahead and explain what you wrote then since you think my questions are not valid. What did you mean by your response there?

quote what i wrote with your question to be able to help you with the answer

specialmati:
quote what i write with your question to be able to help you with the answer

When you are ready to in fact respond, let me know!

I never lost faith in God. I have just realized that no matter who we are or what we do, God has a plan for us. God will do what He plans to do, when He plan to do it regardless of our prayers, religion and/or faith. He will save those that He wants to save when He wants to save them. That is why a person will go to a church for 20 years, listen to several altar calls and still not be saved why another will just hear a short charge on the street and be saved. We can never understand how God works or make His decisions. The fact that a person prayed today and got what he or she asked for the next day does not mean that what you got was as a result of yesterday's prayers. I believe it was something God has destined that person to get that particular day regardless of that person's faith or prayers. I pray to God when I'm compelled by my spirit. I see God as a God of love who never promised it will be easy but has promised that His grace is sufficient for me; He promised to give when i ask but He never promised to give me immediately i ask; He promised to love us all but never promised to love the righteous alone. Having these basic understandings has helped my faith. To borrow the word of someone here...i am SBNR.

Kobojunkie:
When you are ready to in fact respond, let me know!

am here just quote what i wrote with your question let me clear you now please

Offpoint1:

Let paint 3 scenarios and I need your HONEST answer.

1. I prayed for something, no results
2. I worked for something, I got a results.
3. I prayed and I worked for something, I got results.

Study this 3 scenarios carefully and give your Honest opinion on scenario 3

From these three scenarios, it is so easy to see that prayer is utterly useless. However, this common sense is not common.

A lot of Christians will not admit the obvious conclusion from the three scenarios you listed.

bolagabriella:
I never lost faith in God. I have just realized that no matter who we are or what we do, God has a plan for us. God will do what He plans to do, when He plan to do it regardless of our prayers, religion and/or faith. He will save those that He wants to save when He wants to save them.

That is why a person will go to a church for 20 years, listen to several altar calls and still not be saved why another will just hear a short charge on the street and be saved. We can never understand how God works or make His decisions. The fact that a person prayed today and got what he or she asked for the next day does not mean that what you got was as a result of yesterday's prayers. I believe it was something God has destined that person to get that particular day regardless of that person's faith or prayers.

I tend to agree as I have seen this happens even in the lives of unbelievers. As God says, He pours out His mercy and compassion daily on even the wicked and the ungrateful.

bolagabriella:
I pray to God when I'm compelled by my spirit. I see God as a God of love who never promised it will be easy but has promised that His grace is sufficient for me; He promised to give when i ask but He never promised to give me immediately i ask; He promised to love us all but never promised to love the righteous alone. Having these basic understandings has helped my faith. To borrow the word of someone here...i am SBNR.

So you do not believe the teachings of Jesus Christ are true?

Unanswered prayers and so on

He was the strongest man I knew.. Losing him was the biggest teardown of my entire life.. That vacuum you left in my heart seems to only get bigger and bigger.. Onye'm, please keep watching over us.

Casham:
Honestly, My Faith is broken, probably beyond repair already. Prayer is just a formality for me because I know nobody will answer. But I envy those with an unwavering faith. They have no idea the kind of peace of mind they got. None of my prayers ever seemed to be answered. I prayed for one thing for years but it only get worse. And now, this year, everything just broke. Years of my life wasted. And God said nothing. He did nothing. I ask the question 'Why?' more than a hundred times every day. I read the book " When God doesn't make sense" by Dr James Dobson over and over again. But I still can't understand why? Why is He always quite. I never believed in Hell, so I am not afraid to leave, but I am already addicted to the idea of God. I just finally choose to live on auto-mode. My life is in my hand now. I don't care anymore. God sees my heart: I am an honest and sincere doubter.

Have you considered taking God at His Word? Basically, dump all the James Dobsons, and the doctrines and traditions of men - pastors and the lot. Instead of listening to men preach their version of the "gospel" at you, open your Bible and start reading through the Gospels on your own, throwing out everything you have ever been told of or about God prior to so God Himself can reveal Himself to you as He said He will.

Try it please! Read the Gospels as you would a novel, and learn of exactly what God commands of you through Jesus Christ, making the choice to accept(trust) and obey His teachings as presented to you, Look for opportunities to obey what you read, testing God to show up as He said He will if you accept(trust) and obey His commandments. Try God and see if God is a joke or not!

Offpoint1:
If I will or should ever pray, it should be to seek forgiveness when I know I've done wrong... Not to seek for help or miracles.
Explain work

According to the teachings of Jesus Christ, work refers to the individual acts of accepting(trusting) and obeying(action) the commandments/teachings of Jesus Christ, the New Covenant.

Offpoint1:
Explain faith

Faith is a collection of the works done by you following the lead by the Spirit of God i.e. the Will of God.

ibedun:


RUBBISH!!!

The highest award set up by European Christians to award themselves accolades is your own proof. This is why education has failed the black man, they read and memorise and regurgitate. They cannot APPLY their education to practical problems and challenges.

Did you read my write up as a response to the claim that someone earlier statement or you had pent up bile against Christianity.

My write up simply attacks the notion that once you are a Christian, it will amount to backward stance that Africa find itself.

Alfred Noble created the Noble Prize not because he is a Christian

What prize should African scientist now set themselves that avoid regurgitate using your own word.

I provided irrefutable evidence which you called backward. I await your evidence of awarding

Offpoint1:
Too many unanswered prayers, I quit praying and start working more, building myself more, learning more skills and I start getting results and I say what's the point? Everything you prayed for doesn't happen until you work for it... then what's the point of the prayers? If I asked my earthly father's stuffs and he continuously doesn't give me until I work for it, what's the point of asking? let me start working for it since it's more effective than asking for it.

There are too many things we don't want to speak up both Christians and Muslims because we're too afraid of the hell threats... 50% of humans are serving God out of fear of hell, the rest 50% are serving God out of personal greed which is promised of heaven.

If you're down at accident scene with injuries, no amount of prayers will save you if you're not taking to hospital for medical attention
In sickness it's still the same
In needs your fellow humans will be at your mercy when you speak up or when they noticed the signs.

Maybe the Brain behind our existence Left us to our own faith,
Maybe he made us to be our own gods by having each others backs.

I've gotten to the stage I'm no longer afraid to ask questions, I've stopped buying that "you can't question God" lines pastors and preachers had been giving me... I've stopped buying "the portal and clay" analogy. Clay doesn't complain about how the portal mould it because it's an inanimate object with no consciousness... Don't expect me to be like that.

Don't mistake me for an atheist

wow bro! Pls change your moniker from offpoint to on point cause u killed it!

Offpoint1:

Lol, so in your defense to God answer is I should have started hard labour job at 14, so that was God answers to my prayers that I didn't hear
Very interesting answers from you

Ask specialmati what WORK is a terminally ill and fatigued cancer patient supposed to do after praying with FAITH?

Kobojunkie:
I never brought in the idea that prayer is not answered as a result of sins. In fact, I don't buy that reasoning because it is not based on what Jesus Christ Himself, the one who defines what sin is, taught His disciples.

Excuse me for thinking out loud for a moment....

* When we ask for forgiveness, God does not forgive us some of our sins, but all of them. So when God has forgiven me all of my sins, why then would God immediately penalize me(refuse to answer my requests) because of Sins He has already forgiven me for?

* Yeah, there is more to it than the claim that it is because of sin. And if sin, should I know which sin it is? I mean there are only about 46 commandments in total in the New Covenant, the Law as far as the Kingdom of Heaven is concerned, so it doesn't help to arbitrarily claim that my requests were denied because of sin?

* If I accept(trust) and obey the teachings of Jesus Christ yet I continue to wonder why God has yet to give me the ice-cream I asked Him for 2 weeks ago, it makes no sense to conclude that sin is the reason for the delay given I already obey His teachings and according to Him, that means I am free from sin.

Now you're talking reasonably

Offpoint1:

Now you're talking reasonably

I was being reasonable even when I said what I did of sin and the assumption that because Paul declared in His letter that all HAVE sinned, somehow it is ok to continue sinning.

Kobojunkie:
According to the teachings of Jesus Christ, work refers to the individual acts of accepting(trusting) and obeying(action) the commandments/teachings of Jesus Christ, the New Covenant.
Faith is a collection of the works done by you following the lead by the Spirit of God i.e. the Will of God.

Who does your explanation of WORK correlate with my work I'm referring here? I'm talking about work known by every human, that little you do to get a reward afterwards....that's the work I'm referring to do. What does trusting, accepting and obeying have to do with physical work?

Martinez39s:
Ask specialmati what WORK is a terminally ill and fatigued cancer patient supposed to do after praying with FAITH?

the woman with the issue of blood has to step out to go touch his garment to receive her healing.i have to start giving God the money i should have used in buy drugs to never to fall sick.until you get the result do something what do you understand when you said faith what do you know about faith. Most of you think these things doesn't work.if it doesnt work then God is not faithful then.until you get to that point where you pray and tell God if He doesnt heal you then so be it.people that manufactured car have spare parts.thats human what makes you think God that manufactured our body doesnt have spare parts in stock in heaven.He still does miracle.satan is the one making people to fall sick all these manner of sickness,God himself is not even happy that one falls sick