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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 2:29am On Oct 31, 2014

Patchesagain:
The British army that the missile was produced for, says officially and authoritatively that the maximum Starstreak I missile ceiling is only 1km, your private website is referring to starstreak II which even the British are still trying to get into full service as at now 2014. SANDF is fvcking around with version I at 1km max ceiling, worst expensive missile in Africa.

Nope, that website I quoted specifically says Starstreak 1

furthermore, Starstreak is VSHORAD

The Uhmkonto GBAD's will be in service shortly.

So, we have better VSHORAD (its so good it competes with your GBADS)

And we will have better GBADS

Game. Over.

DENEL built dual purpose gun at home, show me source that you bought the CRAM ammunition made in Sweden or Germany, I need SIPRI source that proves you imported the CRAM ammo, show me now !!!

Dont have to, the source has allready shown that it uses AHEAD ammo.

And SIPRI does not list ammunition transfers.

Finally, Rheinmettal has a factory in South Africa - we build the ammunition ourselves

Okay, then because Bofors guns use 60km range artillery shells, then Nigeria also has it as ammunition for our 73 Bofors FH-77B, right ?

Nope, max range ammunition for the FH-77B is only 30km

Ammunition in the Swedish Army order included the locally developed HEER projectile, developed to meet the requirements of the Indian Army which, when used with charge 9, has a range of 30,000 m. HEER-BB (High Explosive Extended-Range - Base Bleed) was included in the order and the FH-77B could also use ammunition already stockpiled by the Swedish Army.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4673.html

And you dont have the FH-77B

The equation does not balance because your 3rd world 1970's army cannot rival the SANDF in any way, shape or form.

Case closed

shut up, Lousy. We all know you're an official liar. You manipulate figures and facts

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 2:19am On Oct 31, 2014

ActivateKruger:
By far you're the most ignorant poster here... I think you should go take orders from Henry and Agububu, they at least do some research before they post.

My friend, this is a military thread, we post fact-to-fact arguments not some wishful thinking and lame articles without substance.

Start reading reading from the first pages till somewhere in the middle of the thread to gasp some ideas on what we're talking about.

And you my friend is a military glory-thief. Don't push out words your intelligence cannot support, my boy.

I'll tell you what I always tell blacksouthafricans : you went to school a little too old and too late. China even at this minute is still "relatively" a paper tiger. What'd they teach you in Zululand? Southafricans are as alien to facts as life is to Jupiter.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 1:35pm On Oct 29, 2014

ActivateKruger:

Evidence will be nice, military facts, statistics..... not a mere article.

WWI - kicked the Germans out of Namibia
WWII - kicked the Italians out of East Africa and battled them in North Africa
Korea - Medals of Honors from the USA
Angola - Killed almost 10 000 Cubans, countless insurgents
DRC - Bombed the M23 out of existence and snatched a sniping record, best ever recorded in African soil.

Lies Lies Lies, from glory-thieves. Sources and articles have been posted here repeatedly on this thread. It was an international operation and southafrica was not even leading the operation.

Look for another lie, boy, we gotten used to this one.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 1:15pm On Oct 29, 2014

DieVluit:
The folly of "Logic" and unsubstantiated views.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1560065/chinas-navy-no-longer-so-inferior-japans-experts-say?page=all

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/06/us-china-japan-navy-idUSBRE9251GU20130306

Support your views and be taken seriously. Fail to and remain a joke.

i know you can't smell logic even it were thrust into your Zulu nostrils or inserted into your brain.

China kitted and supplied the Libyan forces with military hardware and their tools proved a no match for the Liberation rebels. That was during so much international hype of China's new military strength and equipment. So everyone was waiting for some kind of action.

So the international press dubbed them paper Tigers at the closure of that war, glory-thief, what's so hard for you to comprehend ?

Source-magnet like you.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 12:58pm On Oct 29, 2014

ActivateKruger:
When the article was released, SA was the best military in Africa after Egypt.

What's your point?

says who, thief? The article said your neighbours would wipe you off at a go.

Also, your imaginary military strength was during apatheid when the afrikaans were stocking weapons in the even of a military coup or armed struggled. After the apatheid era those weapons deteriorated without accomplishing any international military glory.

During the Lybia crisis, the international press knew China was a paper Tiger. I was expecting your troops there since your government was making so much noise. But we know you guys are cowards with no molitary glory.

You keep looking for military battles Internationally credited to SA, i wish you good luck in your search.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 12:50pm On Oct 29, 2014

ActivateKruger:
There's a way we debate in this thread, you post something you back it up with a valid source.

So far you are failing to provide any.

And there's a minimum acceptable level of logic here. If one presents a source, do not assume it has been thrashed before, it doesn't matter how often it has been said. Fact is fact,no matter how worn.

Also simple truths don't always need source, it just a tactless and lousy excuses you fools use to deny truth. Paper tigers.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 12:34pm On Oct 29, 2014

patches689:
No, it didnt say that at all.

It said it will take 9 billion rand to replace some of our older equipment and to put our military on par with the standards we have set for it.

We are the most advanced military in Southern Africa, this is an indisputable fact

on paper, boy, on paper. SA military = paper Tigers.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 12:15pm On Oct 29, 2014

DieVluit:
Here's a tip:

Persuasion skills thump force-feeding skills.

Persuade us through sound argument. Don't bark at us in the hope that you'll force us to see what you see. You'll get nowhere.

Your info is OUTDATED and that's that. Overtaken by events and overtaken by this thread.

which country turns around a pariah, dilapidated weak military institution around in 2 years ? Answer : no country. So if SA is military is down and out in 2012, it still is today. Have another try.

And i don't fall for the well-worn "out-dated news" strategy.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 11:45am On Oct 29, 2014

DieVluit:
The source itself is a broken joke. Says lots about the author of the thread containing it. You need something stronger than this outdated stuff.

I was actually expecting your excuses. A 2012 article is outdated ? You think military structures are built likr blocks of flats. That article rightly pointed that it would take decades of 7billion to 11billion rands anually for your pathetic military to even be up to par with Rwanda.

I never thought you'd own up. You're the hallmark of a new level of shame and cowardice. Hehehehe.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 7:28am On Oct 29, 2014

DieVluit:
B.R.I.N.G. T.H.E. S.O.U.R.C.E.S.

Let's see if any intelligence lives in you.

one fool asks for Source, the other nicompoop says it's stale news. LOL, chameleon southies, keep shifting the goal posts to change the game's outcome.

I'm displaying this source not because you want it, but because i love to shove it into your stupid, ignorant throat. There's your source, glory-thieves :m.mg.co.za/index.php?view=article&urlid=2012-05-04-lack-of-funds-leaves-sa-vulnerable

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 10:58pm On Oct 28, 2014

ActivateKruger:
You making me wanna sleep..... do you know how many things have happened since that article was released? Osama Bin Laden was still alive, Gadaffi was still running Libya and all are history together with that article.

Shortcomings stretch from basic training to
intelligence capability, leaving the defence force
if not defenceless as such, at least easily
outmatched by a sufficiently large multifront
attack using chemical or biological weapons,
heavily armoured units or any combination of these. And that is the formal, written version. In private,
analysts and military professionals across the
board scoff at the idea that South Africa could
defend itself from any serious, determined,
concerted attack almost as much as they scoff at
the idea that such an attack could take place in the foreseeable future. "We are not going to fight a conventional war in
the short-to-medium term," said Len le Roux, a
retired major general and consultant to the
Institute for Security Studies on defence policy. But if national defence remains the real job of
the defence force, the defence review says, then
somebody will have to pay for it.

Wouldn't care either state you are.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 10:48pm On Oct 28, 2014

ActivateKruger:
You're new to this thread, that doesn't even count as yesterday news... we placed SS 77 LMG holes on that article and was long buried before you even discovered Nairaland.

nothing wrong in the repeatation of truth and facts. let it be told and retold. And don't let the moniker fool you, I've been around.

Seems you have been web-stalking Nigeria for years now.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 10:45pm On Oct 28, 2014

ActivateKruger:
Leave him alone, he suffers from hate amd frustration.... when one has nothing going on for him, he hates the one who is progressing.

A large and long overdue review of South Africa's
defence capabilities and needs, now in the
phase of public consultation, paints a grim
picture. The country has too few fighting men and
women, often with old or useless equipment,
often without the discipline required to
constitute an effective fighting force, little ability
to deploy them rapidly, little by way of heavy
equipment to back them up and a severely limited ability to communicate with them once
they are in the field.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 10:42pm On Oct 28, 2014

ActivateKruger:
Leave him alone, he suffers from hate amd frustration.... when one has nothing going on for him, he hates the one who is progressing.

progressing to where? If you have progress you won't spend years here on a Nigerian forum forcing us to accept you for what you're not.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 10:39pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
Reported @Mukina2 @HumbledByGrace

You will find out soon enough whether I am.

It is a good thing that Botswana, Namibia and
Zimbabwe do not seem to have any territorial
ambitions, because if they chose to annex a few
South African provinces, the defence force would
be hard-pressed to stop them, especially if
Lesotho decided to get into the action.

Ask me for source or bring in the mods

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 8:59pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
Your cries aren't worthwhile. Still reported your attempts at derailment @Mukina2 @HumbledByGrace

stop squealing to the mods. Demonic slave. Jobless, half-baked demonised magot. You're completely lost to shame and pride. Failure is your middle name. Mod-adopted-child-wanna-be.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 8:55pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
Racism reported @Mukina2 @HumbledByGrace

Buthhurt also reported.

hypocritical, yellow-bellied baboon, stop crying to the mods, you're as guilty as i am but only too weak to engage me.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 8:51pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
Racism reported @Mukina2 @HumbledByGrace

Buthhurt also reported.

@ the mods, humbledbygrace, whenever you decide to have a check on this thread, endeavour to scroll up and see the yellow belly dievluit insult Nigeria and Nigerians. Slaveboy.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 8:48pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
I count so bad you can't ignore me. Meanwhile, all I've given you are one-liners. Which will continue until you improve.

i bet you don't have the literary muscle to progress logically beyond a one liner.

Jobless modern slave, you spend your entire life trying to prove you're better than Nigeria you labelled a failed state. Sinking boy is what you are. your azz is being cleaned here.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 8:44pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
You are worse. And you'll continue to be treated with scorn until you improve.

the only way blacksouthafricans can everr have any sense of fulfilment and a
sense of self-worth is by defeating Nigeria by any means.

So you carry on typing nonsense and drag this thread for years. Because in your warped minds, you simply can't let the Nigerians "win". Self-loathing lots.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 8:40pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
You are worse. And you'll continue to be treated with scorn until you improve.

you don't count, glory-thief. You who wouldn't accept facts or truths even if your life depended on it.

You're going down in a blazing flame here.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 8:32pm On Oct 28, 2014

agaugust:
Go back and look through my posts on Biafra or just shut upp, why should I waste my time repeating the same posts and photos for every Soweto fool that joins this forum, do you pay me salary for my time here?

Go back and find it or confess you cannot afford to pay for browsing megabytes, jobless ANC governemnt dependant

.

man that hurts

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 8:27pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
Not interested in your cries. Thanks.

The moment you post something of substance and relevance, you'll be entertained meaningfully.

Anything else will keep getting reported.

you're not mentally qualified to decide what's meaningful or relevant. You won't even recognise relevance if it hits you in your stupid, mopish face.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 7:34pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
That's INDICES.

You failed to proceed along that path and you derailed.

Derailment here @HumbledByGrace

Won't be banned cause of you. You know when you get engaged the thread will get dirty. You have no weapon other than derailment.

my gratest weapon is to rightly name you guys glory-thieves, fact twisters and history manipulators. Militarily your country is a zero (0) . Please military is more than silly fancy equipments.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 7:13pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
I have reported this post. Irrelevant and its derailment.

if not for internet nothing will cross my path with semi-slowpoke like you. Didn't you call Nigeria a failed state.

You weep and cry like a baby when bruised. Any mod stupid enough to ban me, I'll simply come with another moniker to fact-beat you.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 7:04pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
Not just failed. 15 MOST FAILED.

First index, that.

Second index. Highest illiteracy rates in the world. Nigeria. Thanks.

https://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/18567945/1783428069/name/RE+-+Northern+Nigeria+Has+the+World%26%2339%3Bs+Highest+Illiterate+Children++-+UN+and+IMF+-+Correct.doc

Southafrica has the 2nd biggest slum in africa and the 7th biggest slum in the world. We have the best african brains. Our citizens has broken so many records. only 7% of your schools have libraries. Over 85& use pit laterine. And school attendance is amongst the lowest in africa.

I'll tell you again, you're an over-hyped land of retards and moronic glory-thieves.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 6:51pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
Try and derail the thread or be racist and see what happens.

Repeat:

The 15th must failed state in the world is nigeria.

First index has given you hiccups.

Thank you.

ok, a failed state right? But you have been here for the past 2 years struggling literarily, graphically and mathematically to proof you're better than a failed state.

Men, you need help. You know you're beneath us. Hehehehe Kleinfontein.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 6:43pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
Still not interested.

Ilogical, moronic coward you are.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 6:36pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
Not interested in your cries. Thank you.

you're infested by the demons of stupidity.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 6:35pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
Is that why you've posted the indices?

Sure, we believe you.

Don't worry though, we'll happily okay the indices for you without making lots of noise.

In tupac's voice:failed states roll call.

Nigeria - the 15th most failed state in the world. http://www.proshareng.com/news/7135.html

Cry now.

good to see you learning to stand up for yourself finally.

Nigeria is still bigger and stronger than southafrica. I told you, We have already started China-ing you in Africa and there's nothing you can do about it. It hurts being no. 2 but learn to deal with it. Military-glory -thieves

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 6:29pm On Oct 28, 2014

DieVluit:
I have already reported him. They waste so much of our time and mess up the entire thread, the losers.

they derail this thread by never owning up to fact. And they keep demanding for sources, when you present one, they say it's compromised. The glory-thieves.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by postmann: 6:19pm On Oct 28, 2014

postmann:
southafrica is an over-hyped junk yard of glory-thieves and cowards like you who look at life with bloodshot eyes.

From all available indices your country is stagnant having been operating at full potentials for nearly a century now.

Nigeria on the other hand has only just scratched the surface of her vast resources and potentials and you're already feeling the heat and dying to proof a coward military of no international repute.

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