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Christianity EtcRe: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by Pr0ton(op): 10:05pm On Jun 09, 2015
Scholar8200:
The Genealogy of Matthew traced Christ's descent from Joseph while that of Luke traced it from Mary.
How can a reasonable person take this as Mary's genealogy when it reads, "And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli..."?

As regards the passover, the Lord's supper (before crucifixion) was held on the day of the passover (see Luke 22:13-23) hence it is not possible that Luke will at the same time say the crucifixion was before the passover!
There was a flaw in my post that led to this misunderstanding. In Luke, Jesus died after the Passover Luke 22:13-20; Luke 22:66. In John, he died on the Passover John 19:14-30. I've corrected that. And still, an apparent contradiction.

As regards the number of those at the tomb, notice that the emphasis of the revelation to Paul was not peripherals such as the location of the supper or where John placed his head not even the name of the owner of the house, but matters relevant to redemption; the omission of a name by one, while not emphasizing the number involved by the other, does not necessarily mean a contradiction.
That's no excuse for a kind of an all-knowing Holy Spirit who wouldn't want his gospels to appear contradictory.

That's not all the contradictions in the gospels. There are lot of them. Some are the location where Jesus appeared to his disciples. Was it in Jerusalem as Luke says, or Galilee as Matthew says? Did Jesus teach his sermon on the mount as Matthew says, or in the plain as Luke says? Was the hometown of Joseph and Mary Bathelem as recorded in Matthew, or Nazareth as in Luke? Was Jesus born during the days of Herod as found in Matthew, or Quirinius as found in Luke? And many more.

You can up with the "run-away" explanation again by saying though one affirms Nigeria gained independence in 1950, and another says 1970, there's nothing wrong with their idea. The most important thing is Nigeria gained independence.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by Pr0ton(op): 6:09pm On Jun 08, 2015
Scholar8200:
Of course the Holy Spirit did, by revelation (in accordance with Christ's promise in John 16:15b)! For example, the Lord's supper was between Jesus and the twelve. However,Paul, before ever meeting the other apostles physically got a detailed revelation of the ordinance exactly as it happened:

1 Corinthians 11:23- 24

23 For I received from the Lord Himself that which I passed on to you [it was given to me personally], that the Lord Jesus on the night when He was treacherously delivered up and while His betrayal was in progress took bread,
24 And when He had given thanks, He broke [it] and said, Take, eat. This is My body, which is broken for you. . .

Galatians 1:12
12 For indeed I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but [it came to me] through a [direct] revelation [given] by Jesus Christ (the Messiah).
Saving the OP from repeating posts (and thus get bored) by reading previous posts is a virtue.

Pr0ton:
Ok. I was expecting this. Now either the Holy Spirit inspired Matthew and didn't inspire the other writers (Luke, Mark and John), or it never inspired Matthew.

Didn't inspire the other writers in the sense that their story contradict. For example, the genealogy of Jesus in Luke contradicts Matthew's; the number of people who visited the tomb of Jesus are different in all accounts; Luke puts the death of Jesus before the day of Passover, while John puts it on the Passover etc. Take your choice.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by Pr0ton(op): 5:01pm On Jun 08, 2015
basbone:
Do you believe in God?? If yes,
then do you believe Satan exist?? If yes,
then Do you believe that Satan was once a beautiful arch angel, ushering praises to Godhuh If yes,
then do u believe that Satan rebelled against God and was cast down from heavenhuh If yes,
then u are any of Christian, Jew, Muslim or Satanist (yes satanists believe the same too!) but......
It's No. I don't. Why should I believe what people wrote for believing's sake in lack of evidence to substantiate their claim? It's utterly irrational and ridiculous. Only fear draws people to believe these kind of things, even when it is unbelievable. And if you're talking about Atheistic Satanists, they don't believe those tales happened for real. They make use of the tales in the figurative sense. They don't believe Satan and any other characters exist.


What made u believe all thesehuh
Are they written in the bible or koranhuh
Who was there when all these were happeninghuh
So you see? Christianity is a religion of believe in faith. I was not there when God created the world.
I wasnt there when God divided the red sea.
I was not there when Daniel was thrown into the den of lions (who even recorded that, was it Danielhuh)
I wasnt there when the devil came to tempt Jesus in the wilderness (infact, Jesus wasnt the one that recorded it and His disciples were unlearned men)
I wasnt there when Jesus was speaking to the thieves cruxified beside him (i wonder whether His desciples were there even)
But I am here to quote a scripture......"the comforter whom the father will send, will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance...."
so the Holy Spirit taught them all these and brought it to their remembrance.
The Holy Spirit may make me see a vision from one perspective, yet make someone else to see the same vision from a clearer succinct perspective. We dont have the same grace, and the Holy Spirit cannot work in us all the same way, else it becomes magic.
Paul had a revelation of the past glory of Christ. John the beloved had a revelation of the future glory of Christ in a succinct manner. Thats how the Holy Spirit works!
Now to ur question........
If u can tell me who recorded the meeting between God and Satan over the life of Jobhuh or
who recorded the argument between Moses and God in the burning bushhuh Or
who recorded the dispute between the arch angel and satan over the body of moses (read Jude)huh
Then i will tell u who recorded that statement made by Jesus.
The same purpose this thread was created for. No one was there. And the only obvious conclusion or consequence is they made it up. The claim that Holy Spirit inspired them is not only self-comtradictory, it is only claimed by them. Holy Spirit never told you it inspired them and so believe, did it?
Christianity EtcRe: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by Pr0ton(op): 7:47pm On Jun 07, 2015
barrnchedo:
Holy Ghost.
Pr0ton:
Ok. I was expecting this. Now either the Holy Spirit inspired Matthew and didn't inspire the other writers (Luke, Mark and John), or it never inspired Matthew.

Didn't inspire the other writers in the sense that their story contradict. For example, the genealogy of Jesus in Luke contradicts Matthew's; the number of people who visited the tomb of Jesus are different in all accounts; Luke puts the death of Jesus before the day of Passover, while John puts it on the Passover etc. Take your choice.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by Pr0ton(op):
basbone:
one thing is clear, those epistles were written years after the Ascention........so the memories of the writers must have been a little jiggled that their accounts slightly differ individualy.
Notwithstanding, the purpose for the epistles is not to tell us old fables of men, but to let us see the life of Christ from different perspectiives, different individualities, who wrote their own accounts without consulting eachother, yet vindicated one point:
that Jesus Christ, the Son of the Almighty God, lived a sinless life, was crucified and rose again, and is with the Father.
Apart from skipping the question "how did the writer of Luke 22 write about such event when, apparently, no one was there to witness it?" and not disturbed by the idea that s/he might be making up something, you repeated same point that can be found in ancient mythology. Why did the early Christians (non-gnostic) pick four out of the many Gospels available then? They thought they were not inspired. Sure the OP could have been one of the criteria they used in determining which was inspired or not. Same thing we're applying to this particular Gospel of Luke, and if no answer/rational explanation is provided (and which seems there is none) then we can discard the Gospel as non-inspired, too. Or we can follow the other alternative: getting naive and deluding ourselves into believing something we knowledgeably know is false, and consequently keep proclaiming things that make us look ridiculous like the words in bold in your post.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by Pr0ton(op): 5:16pm On Jun 07, 2015
polymathic:
2nd peter 2:20-21:: 20. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. So the Holy Spirit of God is the author of the Bible, not matthew, nor james, nor peter...
Cool. Holy Spirit says above three people visted Jesus's tomb (Luke 24:10) and aslo says only two people did (Matt 28:1). Which is right?
Christianity EtcRe: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by Pr0ton(op): 4:50pm On Jun 07, 2015
bigtt76:
Holy Spirit get levo naaaa grin
grin grin undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by Pr0ton(op): 4:49pm On Jun 07, 2015
Cutehector:
Man's wisdom is foolishnes unto God and the lord's foolishness is wiser dan man's wisdom.
Was that a "run-away"?
Christianity EtcRe: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by Pr0ton(op): 4:47pm On Jun 07, 2015
ozolity:
My brother, it was revealed to them. The Bible was written by the inspiration of God. U wud ve asked who recorded the creation account on Genesis one. Was Moses there when God was doing the creation?
Still, the writer of Genesis never claimed to be inspired. The author of Peter and Timothy claimed that.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by Pr0ton(op):
mkpakanaodogwu:
Or maybe he told the disciples when he rose from the dead
mkpakanaodogwu:
The Holy Spirit
Cutehector:
The bible was written based on inspirations directly from the holy spirit
Ok. I was expecting this. Now either the Holy Spirit inspired Matthew and didn't inspire the other writers (Luke, Mark and John), or it never inspired Matthew.

Didn't inspire the other writers in the sense that their story contradict. For example, the genealogy of Jesus in Luke contradicts Matthew's; the number of people who visited the tomb of Jesus are different in all accounts; Luke puts the death of Jesus after the day of Passover, while John puts it on the Passover etc. Take your choice.
Christianity EtcWho Recorded The Prayer Of Jesus About Letting His Cup Pass Him? by Pr0ton(op):
Luke 22:
39 Jesus went out as usual to the Mount of Olives, and his disciples followed him. 40 On reaching the place, he said to them, “Pray that you will not fall into temptation.” 41 He withdrew about a stone’s throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed, 42 “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” 43 An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. 44 And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground. 45 When he rose from prayer and went back to the disciples, he found them asleep, exhausted from sorrow. 46 “Why are you sleeping?” he asked them. “Get up and pray so that you will not fall into temptation.”

The gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke) were written decades (30 - 40 years) after this event. No one was with Jesus when He said that prayer. There was no one watching; no eyewitnesses. How was the event recorded? Or was the author (who was not Luke) just making up a story?
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 10:12pm On Jun 04, 2015
horpeyemmi66:
See my signature, your best bet are the first and last numbers...the 2nd number is in a fone which does not rilly go mobile with me.
So you were playing pranks on me.
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 9:28pm On Jun 04, 2015
horpeyemmi66:
See my signature, your best bet are the first and last numbers...the 2nd number is in a fone which does not rilly go mobile with me.
Hmmm. I'll add all then.
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 8:35pm On Jun 04, 2015
horpeyemmi66:
Till then, you go no...

Who dey pack Visa give people from the Republic of Whatsapp?
Drop your number.
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 4:38pm On Jun 04, 2015
GetOvaMe:
Sweet Fu-k! Thread just moved up 3 pages.

I even thought the PUTME form was out!


I gotta say from what I have observed here, I am begining to askance my choice; if I realy did make the right choice filling UI.

I mean, I was begining to get over the harsh reality of schooling with a bunch of ugly a.ss dudes, because of the obvious scarcity of girls in this thread.

And now, this...


It baffles me frequently the way you guys choose to flaunt your childishness and stewpidity ostentatuously in this thread which is meant to serve other purposes. Your level of immaturity is quite admirable.

Cassy is my guy, though I gotta admit the guy plummeted your ass on this thread ...he was throwing defiant punchlines while you just kept blabbing all through, You fall my hand o.

Though you took it a bit too far when you had the impertinence to go dig up his posts in the Sacred Sexuality Section, where he claimed to have fu-cked a lotta ashawos(forgive me guys for the unecessary details, I'm an assh*le like that).. Man, like seriously? that was totally uncalled for. He was right, you could be a serial killer in the making.

And the Snickers guy, (hope I got that right) took it way too personal. The whatsapp group must be some sort of home for alotta folks.

'Nuff said already 'bout this Whatsapp group.

IMO I could say the Whatsapp group is a totally inconsequential shith*le.

Such is no place a sensible UI aspirant who wants to be admitted should be. But I take solace in the fact that UI admits very few candidates (ask the veterans in this thread).

And I make no apologies for my opinion. Damn right. I am nobody's p*ssy. You can shove your dick up you a.ss if you feel offended.


But keep it up guys. Please don't stop. Even if you have to step up your game by google-ing up more vilifying vitrol, it's so much fun watching you guys rake up these interesting jibes, if for anything it makes this thread lively, I totally prefer it to the annoying equations being solved here daily.

Gives me a migraine.


UI could just turn out interesting...


Most of y'all don't seem like the kinda peeps who'd take advice, but I'm gonna try anyway.


PS: Don't quote me to say rubbish, I don't do words, I'd track you, and annihilate you for real!

But if you're so inclined you can try..


Hasta Luego!
Really? undecided


FrancisTony make I join the league. This could just be the opportunity I've been waiting for undecided grin

RuBBish

rUbbISH

RUBBISH tongue grin grin
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 8:46am On Jun 04, 2015
FrancisTony:
Thank God I trained my son in a way that if he grows, he'll never depart from it.

I'm proud of you, Pr0ton, never join them in throwing childish tantrums. grin
I've been trying to surpress that trait I inherited from you, pa. grin

Thank God my teeth is not set on edge as a result of the sour grape pa has eaten grin
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 8:28am On Jun 04, 2015
horpeyemmi66:
I love to race and play 'em Mafia games...eeyah, not to worry by January, before Lectures begin we play game tire.

I've got GTA San Andreas, GTA, Vice City, Need for Speed, GTA Liberty City, Death race, Asphalt 4.

I cheat most times tho...so grateful for cheat codes, you input them and Bob's your Uncle!

I do a little bit of flying as well in these games: JetFighters, Commandos, Mission classified.

grin...you just keep pounding the key pads, like oh my gosh, can't wait to plug in the cords into the ports greedily.
grin grin LOL. Great you've got loads of GTA and racing. Can't wait to see your promise fulfiled.... "not to worry by January, before Lectures begin we play game tire."

And.....Greedily or generously? grin
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 8:13am On Jun 04, 2015
horpeyemmi66:
Struggling to push myself jare...moreover I wanna go get new game pads for my system.

Gotta play a little...
That's true. Wish I was there with you. What's your favorite?
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 7:16am On Jun 04, 2015
augster:
winkcheesy bring it on, lemme put some sand in ur mouthgrin
Sand? Lol. You're the Augh in the whatsapp group, right?
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 7:15am On Jun 04, 2015
horpeyemmi66:
I am tired of all these E-fights, its just plain silly in every sense...Vickerz and Cassyrooy where about going off grid and if that happens, this thread is gonna be made a laughing stock for disillusioned aspirants of other Universities...you should not be surprised when you see a Unilorin aspirant coming in here to chant that annoying mantra "Better by far", and that is a dent in the armour of the Ivory Tower.

You should be a worthy ambassador of your soon Alma mata, you don't have to wait till you are invited to give a Lecture at the University of Westminster in the UK, the University of Withwatersrand in South Africa or the Massachussets institute of Technology in the U.S, before you portray the tenets of a cultured human, respects costs nothing.

Make we talk better jare, how jacking nah Oga mi?
Lol... You and your post/words bending. Jacking is going undulately fine here. Hope yours isn't the same.
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 10:53pm On Jun 03, 2015
horpeyemmi66:
Am flustered...

What just happened, seems some Elephants are having a tea party...

I was on a self-appropriated-french-leave when I got a call via Viber that one Sir. Vickerz and Brother Cassyrooy are lashing out at eachother's neck.

My advice,

When you guys are through with the hurling of insults, defamations and derogatories, you'd see for yourselves that only Ungulates(Ewu predominantly) behave this way.

Una wey dey see see insult fly over una head, I cover una with the blood of scissors(speaking in ibadan tongue).

It's appaling by the way having to know that some silly fellows are actually enjoying this...I have to take you in ALTRUISM66.

I will be taking a nap now, I'd see where all these lead, and oh it's drizzling out here in LAUTECH Ogbomso.

I am TEAMCASSYROOY but with VICKERZ 12 packs I think I will decamp....

Nah, I am non-partisan, whosoever wins will get a trip to an anthill...on the Outskirts of Nairaland. Just be careful no one gets banned with all these g*y words you using.grin....being quite sometime I was this gay(happy) over some thing so infinitesimal in ratio to my problems, dunno d kind of worms running around your headsangry
grin grin grin Thanks for ending the fight prudently and cleverly with that ^^^
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 10:42pm On Jun 03, 2015
augster:
they must continue...*grabs orijin and a plate of peppersoup..sits in front row..watching in full HD
I'll take you first then huh
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 10:33pm On Jun 03, 2015
Ok. Vickerz and Cassyrooy. That should be all for tonight. Let's get over the irrelevant issue.

Now any more words from you guys.

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EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 10:21pm On Jun 03, 2015
augster:
wasn't me grin
Cursed be the dude or girl that gave Cassyrooy...




























something worst than weed cry cry
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 10:06pm On Jun 03, 2015
cassyrooy:
FIXED. 'To learn something new, take the path you took yesterday - John Burroughs'
Haha. I've been doing that for years. There aint much about the new stuffs I expected. I'd rather follow my very Bro's words, "take a look at the past, and try not repeat the same mistake." I'm with a new signature now, meanwhile.

But seriously it's about time you stopped all these empty criticism about the Whatsapp group. I thought it was our past.
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 9:58pm On Jun 03, 2015
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EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 9:45pm On Jun 03, 2015
Who served Cassyrooy that w**d again. cry Augster, it isn't fair.
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 9:13am On Jun 03, 2015
horpeyemmi66:
grin Finally you are whole again at Cassyrooy...

grin LET THE FRENZY BEGIN grin

*CHEMISTRY
1. Which of the following ways is not a way of producing an acid

A. Mixing of constituent elements

B. Using a strong acid to displace a weak acid or Volatile acid from its salt

C. Dissolving of acid anhydrides in water

D. Mixing two corrosive bases
C

2. Hydrogen and helium are employed to do what?

A. Scuba diving

B. As aerodrome beacons

C. To make colourful lights

D. To prevent the oxidation of lamp filaments
B

3. Acetic acid is used in

A. Making of salts

B. The dying of textiles and silk

C. Making of fruit juices

D. For making of Soft drinks
B

4. The kind of bonding present in H3O+ is

A. Covalent

B. Dative

C. Ionic

D. Hydrogen
Dative covalent. B

5. Which of the following dissociates to produce three different kinds of ions in solution

A. Complex salt

B. Acid Salt

C. Basic salt

D. Normal salt
A. Not sure though.


6. The dispersion of Liquid into a solid gives which of the following

A. Solid foam

B. Emulsion

C. Solid emulsion

D. Liquid aerosol
I didn't see gel. C


7. One distiction between true and colloidal solutions is that

A. Colloidal solutions are transparent

B. Colloids exhibit the tyndall effect

C. Colloids are agglomertion of atoms

D. Colloids are not totally false
B

8. Which of the following cause fluorescence in Zinc Sulphide and Sodium iodide

A. Beta particles

B. Gamma rays

C. X- rays

D. Alpha particles
D. Right from primary school.


9. The shape of a ammonia molecule is

A. Bent

B. Linear

C. Tetrahedral

D. Trigonal pyramidal
D. Option A is kinda funny. But I'm not laughing.

10. The basicity of ethanoic acid can be said to be

A. 4

B. 3

C. 2

D. 1
D

**********GOOD MORNING**********
Just told you that ^^^
LiteratureRe: A Weird Journey by Pr0ton(op): 8:22am On Jun 03, 2015
Fembleez1:
Great job Pr0ton. Thanks for saving us grin







I don dey fall in love with Maya o embarassed
Hanhan. Lol. Thanks
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 8:08am On Jun 01, 2015
horpeyemmi66:
I am not a fan of Caffeine...I'd stick with Horlicks
Horlicks undecided
Ok.
EducationRe: University Of Ibadan 2015/16 Applicants by Pr0ton: 7:58am On Jun 01, 2015
horpeyemmi66:
You can still make do with what you met
Yh, I will

....I have got to grab bread with Jam spread.
That alone? How about some coffee?

https://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/coffee/smileys-coffee-532684.gif

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