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Christianity EtcRe: Dialect Of The Early Beings (SERIOT LANGUAGE) by Primesky(m): 11:09am On Jun 19, 2018
0temSapien:
Spokesperson for the devil? Were you there when I and a particular devil negotiated? How did you know what you are saying?
The opposite of light is what?. The opposite of truth is what?.

If you're not for Christ, who are you for?. More so, when you're clearly against Christ, aren't you an Antichrist, and his representative?. Is that a difficult thing to deduce?.

The man who contradicts the word of the almighty God, isn't that man a liar?, regardless of whether he mentions God or not.

The Holy Bible has been there long ago, the words of prophecies and promises contained in it have remained valid, with clear proofs of its authenticity. Its prophecies have come to pass in strikingly accurate manner, including the fact that people like you will arise and deceive many. Then, all of a sudden 'Mr. Otem comes up along with many others, backed up by wicked devils, claiming God almighty, gods, Doctoufos etc. Oh come on!, stop all these lies already!.

My concern now is for you, Otem. As for this mission of yours, it will so fail, you won't know what happened.

Repent now, before it's too late.

Jesus Christ is the way.
Christianity EtcRe: Dialect Of The Early Beings (SERIOT LANGUAGE) by Primesky(m): 10:35pm On Jun 18, 2018
0temSapien:
You av brought your fallen angel tales here again abi?
See person. So I should keep quiet for you to keep spewing lies all over the place right?. You're acting as a spokes person for the devil and his colleagues. Nothing but lies!. Lies must be resisted before they're assumed as truth. Only the truth of God's holy word can save, Doctoufos is nothing but lies, deceptions concoted by devils to destroy man. But I always tell you, you will fail woefully!.

Jesus Christ is Lord forever!
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 10:23pm On Jun 18, 2018
frank317:
Why should tell me he loves me through a book not directly written by him? Why should he send u to tell me?
If u love a young girl will she take u serious if u send a primary 3 boy to go tell her u love her? Which one will more effective: telling her urself or sending a primary 3 boy to tell her.
Stop making ur God sound like he does not know the right thing to do.

Lies... Story for the gods.

I am Frank not Otem, what's confusing u? Has Holy Spirit started again?
Stop decieving yourself. The Bible is God's word. You can't deny anything about it. It's either you believe or you don't, and you are absolutely responsible for what choice you make. What is your point?. Let's even say, that someone wrote it for Him, does that make it false or fake?.

You must really be thinking God is a play mate. Just because He loves us so much, He became man to save us. Must He also dance to your tune as well?, don't you have even the smallest atom of regard and respect for the one who made you?.

He sent prophets to us to give us His word and tell us His word and His love for us, but just like you, men hated them, abused them and even killed them. He came by himself, became like us, just to express how much He loves us, died and rose again for us. By laying down His life for us, He actually debased Himself to the lowest low possible, yet men just like you now, still doubted, rejected, abused and even called for His crucifixion!. What else do you want?. I have told you that man has no excuse!. As it stands now, it's either you believe or you don't. When the time for judgement comes, you can then present your defense against Him and let's see how innocent you are.

Excuse me, ordinary President of Nations, like Trump of USA and Buhari of Nigeria or let us even talk about ex-presidents, they have spokes persons, who speak for them. And whatever the spokes persons release as the position of their principals, is believed to be endorced by that principal person, and it's therefore accepted as the true position of the person of interest. So now, if the Almighty God speaks through His prophets, He's wrong?.


Jeremiah 35:15 I Jeremiah 35:15 I have sent also unto you all my servants the prophets, rising up early and sending them, saying, Return ye now every man from his evil way, and amend your doings, and go not after other gods to serve them, and ye shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers: but ye have not inclined your ear, nor hearkened unto me.every man from his evil way, and amend your doings, and go not after other gods to serve them, and ye shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers: but ye have not inclined your ear, nor hearkened unto me.

Pride is one thing you need to deal with. So, you will not believe except God comes directly to you. SMH.


My dear, stop chasing shadows, and come to Jesus Christ now. All this permutations and analysis you're doing will not save you.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

There's no excuse for anybody anywhere. The fact is that, you have heard about the saviour, what you choose to make out of His word, love and ways, is totally yours.

Jesus Christ is the way!.

Can a drowning man refuse a boat from saving him, all the while saying if it's not helicopter, he wouldn't want to be saved?. If that happens, that man may as well drown. Who suffers in the end?.
Christianity EtcRe: How Jesus Christ Was Created by Primesky(m): 9:15pm On Jun 18, 2018
0temSapien:
Which type of help do I need?
You need the help of Jesus Christ, the saviour of the world. He is the way, the truth and the life, not one of the ways, but 'the' way.
Christianity EtcRe: Dialect Of The Early Beings (SERIOT LANGUAGE) by Primesky(m): 9:12pm On Jun 18, 2018
realmindz:
Aren't you tired of speaking like a robot.
Demons, fallen angels bla bla bla..

No chance for open mindedness.

Btw, since when you have been binding and casting otem, has anything changed. Infact I am a demon, an angel of Antichrist, I want you to bind and cast me now or forever remain silent
Even a robot is better than some humans. Start a computer now, and it will tell you its maker. But those who said they know all in all, do not know their maker. Isn't that a shame?. I will not keep quiet, no, I will not. If you're tired, I am not!. Are you also going to defend the indefensible?. Because you don't have an idea of the matter, nor do you know the world you're living in. You and I are only surviving by the grace of God. Left for those fallen angels, they would have finished us.

Lamentations 3:22 It is of the LORD's mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not.

Better stop saying what you don't know. You're calling yourself a demon, if they possess you now, what will be your excuse, because you invited them, by claiming to be one of them.

Repent and be saved. Jesus Christ is the way, truth and the life.
Christianity EtcRe: I Will Bow Down And Worship Nnamdi Kanu,than To Worship That Man Call Jesus by Primesky(m): 5:32pm On Jun 18, 2018
See this one. Whether you worship Jesus Christ or not, He remains the King if kings, Lord of lords and master of the universe.

But, at the end, you will surely bow down and worship Him, whether you like it or not.

Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 8:32pm On Jun 17, 2018
frank317:
your prayers will not be answered as usual. Do not bother praying for me, your God should do the needful and reveal himself to me of he is serious. There more important people who need ur prayers; the sick, little kids in war areas, children of abusive parents. pray that people should stop losing their loved ones...unfortunately your God does not exist and cannot answer a single prayer.
I understand ur intentions are good, but sadly u have been decieved and ur mind is playin tricks on u.


If Jesus loves me, you shouldn't be the one telling me.
If u have a girl u are in love with, do u think she will take u serious if u keep on sending a primary 4 student to always go help you go profess ur love for her? worst still u never reveal urself to her? then u sit back and say if she wants to know u, she should seek out for u... its either u are worshiping a mad God or a crazy God.
Jesus loves you, and He has told you in His book, the Bible. But because of arrogance and pride, you can't see it.

Since, you can't see it, I am telling you about it.

As for the Lord Jesus Christ, He was here before now. And He will return again. When He comes, all liars and all decievers like your fallen angels com gods will be roasted in the fire.

You need serious help Mr. Otem, but unfortunately, you are not ready or careful to notice it. Watch it before disaster srrikes. Jesus Christ is waiting for you.
Christianity EtcRe: How Jesus Christ Was Created by Primesky(m): 8:24pm On Jun 17, 2018
0temSapien:
You said something about salvation. What's the meaning of that? I am not in danger, neither am I feeling insecure. If I'm feeling insecure, then I'd get a bodyguard. So what's the salvation you're talking about?

You said that I call what God called good evil. Why telling a blatant lie against me na undecided
Why will I Otem call good evil? Never will I do that! I actually make known the truth and point out the errors of Yahweh your god. For example, Yahweh your god wants an hell fire, but unfortunately for him, the light of God Almighty didn't allow that to happen, to such an extent that it would be hard for anyone to dream of being in a fire. You will quite agree with me that in dreams, people can see themselves in virtually anything in existence, but fire...the Light of God Almighty and the good gods will make sure such dreams are kept far away from living beings. This is because fire is not suitable for anyone to make a dwelling place.

If God Almighty has the kind of mentality carried by Yahweh and Allah, then the earth would be a squadron of fire by default while the afterlives will all be filled with ten times heat intensity. Maybe humans would have been created in the hot sun by default. But thank God that God Almighty the Existence is not low in thinking faculty like Yahweh and majority of his religious minded gods cool
You need help from Jesus Christ now!. Hurry up before the gate closes.
Christianity EtcRe: Dialect Of The Early Beings (SERIOT LANGUAGE) by Primesky(m): 8:20pm On Jun 17, 2018
Doctrine of lies.

AkA doctrine of fallen angels.

Jesus Christ is the only way, the truth and the life.
Christianity EtcRe: How Jesus Christ Was Created by Primesky(m): 5:53pm On Jun 16, 2018
0temSapien:
You call me Antichrist because I oppose the lies concerning.fictitious Jesus. What do you think people of the future will call you for opposing the truth I bring with me? I feel they will see you as an AntiOtem. How does that sound?
Hahaha... Imagine! Do you also attribute salvation to yourself, you, a mortal?. What won't we see in this failed attempt to deceive mankind?. SMH.

You're an Antichrist, and a deceiver of men, an opposer of everything God. What God calls good, you call evil, what He calls evil you call good and glorify it. Who else will do that except the devil himself, the father of lies and an evil mechanist. The chief sore loser of the universe grin

My sadness is that you my fellow man, will allow yourself to be decieved this way, after you've tasted the way of light. Ah! My God have mercy on me and on your children, may it never be said of us that we turned back from following the Lord.

Mr. Otem, can you please wake up, stop this dangerous play now, the night is far spent. Those fallen angels mean you no good, but you won't know now. Stop eating their lies, yes, their lies may sound plausible to the ears, but no, they're false, very well calculated and prepared to deceive men. They've had thousands of years to prepare these lies. Repent my brother. You can't be fighting the one who alone can save you. cry cry cry

May the Lord have mercy on your soul.
Christianity EtcRe: How Jesus Christ Was Created by Primesky(m): 12:09pm On Jun 16, 2018
0temSapien:
You need to be seated down to learn from the scratch. Who said that the Nicolatians originated Christianityhuh Did I ever say that? When Christianity was formed, Nicolas was alive. He even served as a worker under christianity for a while until he fully discovered the lies of Christianity and led a sect called the Nicolatians. He knows the falsehood of your religion from the foundation.
Very well!. This proves that you're an Antichrist, because you promote the very things Jesus Christ hates, and He clearly stated the same. The very wicked and sinful things the Nicolaitians did, is what you're praising and fronting as truth. This proves you a liar and an anti Christ. You better repent before you get burnt in an unquenchable fire meant for the fallen angels.

Look at what Jesus said about the Nicolaitians.

Revelation 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.

What were the deeds of the Nicolaitians?. Were they not immortality, lies and deceit?. The very things you and your fallen angels colleagues are doing and promoting.

Mr.Otem, repent and receive Jesus. Those fallen angels gods are liars and deceivers, stop working for them before they destroy you.

Jesus Christ is Lord forever!.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 11:52am On Jun 16, 2018
frank317:
If asking for prove of a being that I can't feel his existence is pride.. Then I chose to remain proud than foolishly believe in something I have never felt. In fact u calling my behavior pride is praising and honouring me.


Speak English. We are yet to confirm the existence of any God. First things first.


No I actually think myself wiser than Jesus. Perhaps u need to start worshiping me
I will only pray for you dear, things aren't the way they appear to you. You have no idea what you're doing to yourself, even though it appears to you to be wisdom and smartness.

Lord, please help this my friend to know you. He is maintaining this stand because he doesn't know or understand, and because the evil one has decieved him. But Lord remember you made him for your glory. I ask that you will have mercy on him and bring him to salvation in Jesus Christ. May the light of your truth and your ways shine on him. This ask in Jesus name. Amen!.

Friend, regardless of anything right now, I want to tell you that Jesus really loves you.
Christianity EtcRe: How Jesus Christ Was Created by Primesky(m): 1:22pm On Jun 15, 2018
0temSapien:
shocked What passage of the bible is the one I stated above? That you don't know the truth doesn't make the truth untrue. Do you know about the Nicolatian Doctrine of about 2000years ago? That's the source of the passage I wrote here and not the bible. Learn and be wise.
I wish that the light of God Almighty will reveal the truth to you. Ase!!!
Please stop the lie already!. Which almighty God are you calling again?

We're you not the one who said, you're the son of the gods, and that they call you their son?. Why are you living them to call almighty God?. Like I said before, your lies have many holes in it. This is the cheapest deception com religion, I have ever seen. Do you want to hear it?. You will fail woefully!.

Hahaha... Nicolacians told you about Christians?. So, the Nicolacians are the originator of Christianity?. Mr. Otem, fear God. Liars go to hell.

Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Even in copying, you can't copy well or is it that you deliberately distorted the truth for your deceptive purposes?. See, the truth is, you will fail catastrophically!.

Jesus Christ is the way!.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 1:10pm On Jun 15, 2018
frank317:
God did not speak with u... Stop lying.


Lol... I think this is a very simple task


Unfortunately I am even yet to confirm the existence of this God... First things first.
The truth is that I am only the way I am because I have not reason yet to think God exists and I am being honest about this... And if God does not know this then for sure he does not exist.


I honestly think the message u give is false because u are human and I am yet to see anything about u that should make me believe u. God should know sending u to message me will not be effective and this is another reason why I doubt his existence.. U portray him as someone who does not know what to do and how to do it.

Yessssss I will patiently wait for him to show himself to me, till then, he does not exist.


It's all a lie... We will fight about it... The more God delays the more we fight. At the end of the day, is all in God's hands... If he exists, only him can stop the fight. Till then, I will continue to display my impatience for what I think are lies.
SMH. Pride is a killer!. It brought down Lucifer and his colleagues. Whatch it!.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:


1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

You think yourself wiser than those of your kind, who despite their exposure and learning and research. Believed and accepted Jesus Christ. What proofs did they have, nothing but the bible. Keep thinking you're wise.

Jesus Christ is the way.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 11:23am On Jun 15, 2018
dalaman:
Stop regurgitating empty mythology to me. Prove your assertions.
Take it!. The bible is the evidence you can't deny. I guess it won't make sense now. I only pray you don't say, had I known. The verdict of the Bible is that, man has no excuse. Unfortunately, many will find out when it's rather too late. I pray you don't fall into that category.
Christianity EtcRe: How Jesus Christ Was Created by Primesky(m): 11:09am On Jun 15, 2018
0temSapien:
Nicolas has predicted a time like this when you guys will call Otem an antichrist.

C.E 3:74,75

75. But the christians shall fear at every single fulfilment of these things. And their fear shall come to a climax when the god of truth shall arise and get the history of the world into the notice of the world, beginning from far back billions of years to his own days.
76. All these shall he accomplish in a few years. He shall also interprete strange languages and then usher in the age which is called New Age but which I would love to call Nicolatian Age according to my own name or the Otemic or Atomic Age according to the name of the god who shall come to usher it in.
Look at thieves, you go through the bible copying and editing. So, in your mind, you're reading out prophecies? Hahaha... Christians will call you anti Christ, off cause, that's who you are now!. The fallen angels know that God's children will identify and shut them down!.

When did the word Christianity begin and come about?. Of all the lying religion around, yours is the cheapest in lies. I have told you to quickly report back to your masters that, this mission is an impossible one. Tomorrow, you will tell us, about Living faith, Redeem, Deeper life etc. Your prophecies and fairytale articles of deceptions are too cheap. Don't you see you're doing a very poor job for your gods?. I wonder what passage of the bible you will steal again, modify and turn up side down, and call it prophecy.

It's a shame you allowed those lizards and snakes to deceive you. From being their tomentor to being their slaves. What a pity!.

Repent, Otem repent!, if not you will fall into the fire with those your strange gods.

Jesus Christ is the Lord forever!
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 10:54am On Jun 15, 2018
frank317:
I am telling you that of never spoken to anyone because people,like you who always claim they have spoken with God end up sound as ignorant as the average human(except speaking with God is as ordinary as taking a stroll) and you are saying I am calling God a liar. God has to speak first before we can determine if he is a liar or not.
why should i ask someone I doubt his existence because i have never seen or heard from for forgivenes and acceptance? forgivness for what? you claim God created me and now I have to ask my creator for acceptance? So he created me and instantly rejected me so that i can come back to him for acceptance? whats wrong with him?
Now he is asking me if i am positive? I will let this foolish comment go... or perhaps you can ask God to find out. And since you cannot ask God to find out anything i will keep on assuming u lie when u say u spoke with God.


whats this? you make up a God in your head , talk to him in your head hear him in your head and come to tell him my relationship with this being in ur head is strictly on his terms. If he exist are u supposed to be the one telling me this? Do u think I see u as God?


sorry, I lack faith to believe in nonexistent things.


oga, i didnt ask u to record anything. ask him a question and give me the answer. Ask him when HIV will be cured and tell the answer. or ask him if there are other beings in other planets in the whole universe. Give me the answer. if the answer is from God, it will definitely be meaninful enough. if u cant do this forget it.. it means u are lying.


good... now a simple prove will seal this.
Keep assuming, that's your choice. The truth remains God speaks to me and to many people. Believe it or not, that won't change a thing about the truth.

Look at yourself, you're asking me to go ask God a question and bring the answer to you, and if the answer is meaningful enough, then it's God speaking, if it's not meaningful to you, then God didn't speak?, oh Lord, please help this soul!.

You have one major issue to deal with, pride!. Unfortunately, God doesn't like that. You may think you're smart, but no, you're not!.

Don't stress yourself OK, I gave you a message, and you said no, it can't be, God must prove Himself to you first before you believe, I said OK!, God will surely prove Himself to you. He will not only speak, but you will see Him too, so that you can question Him about your every wim.There's no need to fret about the whole thing. For you, what I said is false, it's OK, wait until you see Him and hear Him yourself..

Didn't Thomas doubt the disciples when they told Him about Jesus?, and he said unless I see Him with my own eyes I will not believe?, but Jesus said something to Him. So, I said pray that when that day comes, and you're face to face with God, it turns out right. Should we fight about that, or you're not willing to be patient?. You're absolutely responsible for your choice.
Christianity EtcRe: How Jesus Christ Was Created by Primesky(m): 10:30am On Jun 15, 2018
Please every body reading anything about this Otem should know that this guy is anti Christ. The sole aim of all he's doing is to draw you away from God, after that, you are exposed to destruction. A liar, working with wicked devils from hell. Wake up people, the devil is after your faith in Christ!.

I John 5:4 Whatsoever is born of God, overcometh the world, and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

This faith in God through Christ is what this damned spirits are after, so they could steal your victory.

the devil is a liar!. Imagine the audacity in attempting to change age long truth.

Jesus Christ was never created like the lying Otem is saying.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


Shame on you Satan and all your agent's, you will surely fail!. Remember, the fire is ready and waiting for you.

Jesus Christ is the Lord and master overall. No argument about that!.
Christianity EtcRe: Suicide Is Not A Sin Because Jesus Committed Suicide by Primesky(m): 11:06am On Jun 14, 2018
1960ng:
A Twitter Tomiwa(@indomiepapi) user posted on his page ' suicide is not a sin because Jesus committed Suicide'.
He tweeted :
Suicide is not a sin.I know this is gonna push some buttons but I believe Jesus committed suicide.Also God gave Samson strength at the last minute to kill his enemies, also committing suicide.eople saying I don’t know the difference between sacrifice and suicide. Can’t a person commit suicide as sacrifice.If you want to talk/argue... dm me cause I will not be screaming on the TL. Also, we ain’t children so only dm for an intelligent argument ... anything derogatory getting blocked
This is a big lie!.

Anti Christ spirit detected!.

Was it Jesus who shouted crucify him, crucify Him before Pilate?.

Was it Jesus who nailed Himself there on the cross. Blasphemer!.

Was it Jesus who pierced Himself with a javelin by the side.

People, be warned of satanic lies and deceptions. This is the very thing the Lord warned us of. That in the last days, many will arise and deceive many, please, stay on guard, never accept these lies from the pit of hell. The target is your soul!.

If the devils, can disconnect you from Jesus Christ, then they can destroy and take you to hell. Resist it. They will claim wisdom, but they're wallowing in foolishness.

Never, commit suicide, it can take you to hell!. It's the same thing as murder. You aren't the owner of your life, God gave it to you, you will account for it. You will be guiltless only if He decides to take it or if someone else takes it, of which that soul will surely pay for it.

Amidst the pressure and depression in the land, many have contemplated suicide, but have had to restrain themselves because of that, going to hell. Now, the devils disappointed by this, have come up to discourage men, so that they can go ahead. Be warned, it will take you to hell!.

Keep hope alive, it's not over with you unless you or God say so. Shalom.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 10:49am On Jun 14, 2018
dalaman:
So you were talking empty talk after all? OK continue.
The ear that will hear will hear!. Your refusal to believe will not change a thing, except on your person, soul and spirit. When Jesus himself came preaching and telling the jews and pharesses, that look, I am the Son of God, how many of them believed Him?. Was that not the very reason they gathered to kill Him?, for telling the truth?. They asked Him to give them a sign from heaven as a proof and He turned it down, and so for that He was talking trash as far as they are concerned. Yet, at the cross, even the centurion who was never directly preached to, affirmed that truly, this was the Son of God!. So, who was the loser there?. You, man, can never dictate for God, have you no respect and reverence at all?. What you can't do to your human leaders, you dare try it with God?. I feel horrified for you guys seriously!. But God is so patient and kind, but it's a serious gamble of death to drag on in fleshly wisdom and pride to suffer God's patience and grace.

Ask yourself, what happened, how and why did top people, reknown in science and wisdom, like C. S. Lewis, come to accept this Jesus and His way, did they hear God calling them from the sky or what exactly happened?. Is it that they left being wise and intelligent to become foolish and stupid?. That is to say, you and your likes currently are wiser than they, though they had gone deeper than you and have seen more than you in both research and learning. I will keep praying for you that your eyes may be opened to the realities of God and eternity. Shalom.

Jesus Christ is the only Way!.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 10:31am On Jun 14, 2018
frank317:
Oh plz God does not and has never spoken to anyone.

Glad u used trump junior and trump example.

If God spoke to you... Ask him any specific question about me. Simple.

If God speaks with u simply prove it. That's shouldn't be too hard.

I can ask my father anything... Sure since God is now ur father, u can ask him anything. Asking him when we will find a permanent cure for HIV.

Repeating that God speaks with u does not mean he spoke with u. Anyone can say anything.

Since u speak with God ask him if there exists another planet in the universe with beings.
I respect you and your opinion, however, your assertion is false. That is saying God is a liar. You may not believe me because I will not bring you what you desire, but that does not negate the truth. God speaks to people and He still speaks!. Rather than asking God to forgive and accept you, you want to find out when cure for HIV/AIDS will be found. Are you positive?, that's no problem for Him to handle, many have had their health restored!. But you must come to Him on His own terms!. Is that had for you?.

This relationship with God is on His terms not yours, you're the needy here, you can't dictate. But if you insist that except you hear Him you won't believe, like Thomas, I say hold on, you will surely not maybe, but surely hear Him and see Him. But I hope the meeting then will be nice for you.

Walking with God is built and based on faith. Without faith it is impossible to please God. Saying unless I hear and see physical proof may sound wise and sensible, but that's not the way faith works.

How do you want me to record the voice of a Spirit?. When God who is spirit, speaks to man, He speaks with and to the spirit of the man, the man will hear, understand and relate with that message. It's not like you talking. However, God can also speak audibly like a friend will chat with a friend to the hearing of the fleshly ears. But God only decides or chooses the method He wants, not you. It will be foolishness of me to go to God and say, speak let me record it, so I can prove to Mr. X or Mr. Y. His word (Bible) is a proof, If that puts you off, then I guess the question will be, who actually needs help and salvation of the other as to give conditions, you or God?.

I maintain this undeniable truth and fact known the world over, experienced by countless number of people, that God, the almighty God, yea, despite how big and immeasurable He is, and how insignificantly small we are in size, wisdom and power, speaks, fellowship and abides with us. This is the mystery of divine love and grace. What an honor!.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 9:53pm On Jun 13, 2018
dalaman:
You made a claim, prove that you aren't a liar by providing evidence. Failure to substantiate your claims means you are a liar. I am fired of your empty talk.

Stop lying to me.Just prove your claims and that's all.
You are responsible for what you choose to believe. I am not telling you a lie. The word of God is given to you. The bible is my evidence. I will not go beyond that.

If you want to hear God directly, come into His family and hear Him speak. You can't be outside demanding the rights of Sons. Which is why we preach to you. If you say no!, until I have physical evidence, then I will ask you to wait, because you and all who believe like you, will not only hear Him, but will also see Him. Then you can ask Him why He refused to call your name from heaven and tell you He loves you as a prove of His love. Be rest assured it will come. You will Remember this word.

Dear Lord I wish not that this one find out the truth when it's rather too late. May your grace that bringeth salvation appear to him so that he may be saved in Jesus name Amen!.

Before reknown atheists and scientists the turn around from this way of reasoning to believe and accept God, it takes only grace. Except you say, you're now wiser than they are.

Jesus is Lord forever?!.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 9:40pm On Jun 13, 2018
frank317:
The way u guys talk sometimes...

If I tell u I was with Donald Trump yesterday I am sure most of u will start asking a lot of questions just because Donald is the president of USA. A lot will not take me serious, many will dig into the said conversation and ask reasonable questions just to be sure I am not lying. Many will want to know my history, what I do for a living and how I even got Donald's contact.

But u people freely open ur mouth to say you spoke with the creator and when asked same questions u would ask me if I told u I spoke with Trump, the questioner becomes labeled.

Making claim that u spoke to the creator is a huge claim. Much bigger than I claiming I spoke with Trump. It requires a huge prove. If u can't prove it better not say it rather make flimsy excuses when asked to prove ur claim.

If God exists... Speaking with him (given the way the world has been as we know it) would be one of the greatest phenomena to happen amongst us. Such individual must definitely poses certain characteristics like ability to fly, tell the future or even not die.

If I can't be just ordinary to see trump, u definitely can't be just supernatural to speak with the creator. U need to be extrasuperordinary to do this.

Sometimes I wonder if you guys take the God u claim to worship for granted. Look around you. Look at the heavens, study the galaxies and other planets, look at the sun, the endless universe, the moon, humans and everything under the water. Imagine how long the earth must have existed and how many people have lived on earth. now u tell me u speak with the creator of all these?

Oga... Please we are no kids here, don't joke with our intelligence.
I can hear from God, yes He does speak to me. God speaks to many of His children. That is a fact nobody can deny. What do you mean?. Do you think this is a joke?. I am a child of God for crying out loud, should
I lie about that?. While it may be difficult for you to speak with President Trump, since he's not your Father, will it be difficult for Trump Junior to do so?, Well, since you've made up your mind not to believe Him, how will you now hear Him. Are you also, His son?. That's the condition, and that's why we preach. But you want a shut cut! What you're doing now is the same thing the pharesses did and said to Jesus Christ. He very well denied them that prideful approach. Your believing it or not does not add nor subtract from me, neither will it stop me from enjoying the fellowship I have with Him.

God is not a man, so stop trying to explain Him and limit Him with your human reasoning, it won't work!. If He could become flesh and man just to save us, what is there in talking to His children?. In the very beginning, God usually came down to the garden of Eden to fellowship with Adam until Adam fell into sin. Is He a different God now than He was then?, sin is the only thing that blinds and deafen men's ears from hearing God. From His word, Visions, revelations, direct speech.

Genesis 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

3:10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

3:11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.


Has God stopped talking?.

Isaiah 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

So if God does not shout from heaven and call your name, He's not real?.

The truth is, God speaks to many persons around the word everyday, not just me. If you want to, come into the family!. But if you say until you hear Him directly, fine!. Yours is a special case, and you will surely hear Him, and see Him face to face. Brace yourself for it when the time comes!. That's the time for those who claim to be very wise, those who know more than others, those who want to teach God how He should relate with them, I say brace yourself for that time for it will come to your turn.

God is the realest person any where in the universe.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 3:56pm On Jun 13, 2018
dalaman:
You claim to speak with God whom you claim is the creator of the universe abi? If your claim is not a lie then you should be able to prove your assertions and also prove that you are not a liar. Failure to do so will show that you are a liar.

Tell your God to tell you exactly when he created the earth. He is to tell you the exact age of the earth since you claim to know it. Your God should also tell you exactly how long ago he created man. These are controversial things that most people will want to know, since you claim you talk to the creator f the universe, talk to him and let him give you the answers and tell you how they can be verified.
Really, these are the things that gives you headache?.
Wait a minute, if I tell you what God says now, will you believe?. I told you how much He loves you and how He desires to have a direct relationship with you, so that you will be the one asking Him any question you want, but no you said!. So how will you believe me if I tell you His reply?. You don't need me to record anything for you, rather, you need to hear it yourself,
that's more authentic, and it's open to all!. The bible tells you about such opportunity and I have echoed it to you, don't you think it's pride and laziness not to take that advantage? You can't mock God at all.

So, God must dance to your every tune and satisfy your every wim before you believe He exist?. You don't seem to know where you are, if you do, you won't blink an eye first before accepting His offer of salvation. The very thing fallen angels are dying to have, now offered to you freely, but you, the needy, is the one asking and giving conditions. A drowning man can not give conditions for his freedom. But know this, one day, you will see and know and understand everything I am saying to you now. Only pray, it doesn't happen when it's rather too late.

Jesus saves?
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 3:53pm On Jun 13, 2018
dalaman:
You claim to speak with God whom you claim is the creator of the universe abi? If your claim is not a lie then you should be able to prove your assertions and also prove that you are not a liar. Failure to do so will show that you are a liar.

Tell your God to tell you exactly when he created the earth. He is to tell you the exact age of the earth since you claim to know it. Your God should also tell you exactly how long ago he created man. These are controversial things that most people will want to know, since you claim you talk to the creator f the universe, talk to him and let him give you the answers and tell you how they can be verified.
Really, these are the things that gives you headache?.
Wait a minute, if I tell you what God says now, will you believe?. I told you how much He loves you and how He desires to have a direct relationship with you, so that you will be the one asking Him any question you want, but no you said!. So how will you believe me if I tell you His reply?. You can't mock God at all.

So, God must dance to your every tune and satisfy your every wim before you believe He exist?. You don't seem to know where you are, if you do, you won't blink an eye first before accepting His offer of salvation. The very thing fallen angels are dying to have, now offered to you freely, but you, the needy, is the one asking and giving conditions. A drowning man can not give conditions for his freedom. But know this, one day, you will see and know and understand everything I am saying to you now. Only pray, it doesn't happen when it's rather too late.

Jesus saves?
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 3:38pm On Jun 13, 2018
chemystery:
You are only lying to convince yourself you haven't been deceived. Saying God speaks to you is self deceit of the highest order. To prove you have been lying to yourself, try and record god's voice next time he speaks to you and see if you can
Hahaha... very funny. Sorry bro, I won't indulge you. Digest the message. If you don't believe the written word, is it the recorded one you will believe?. Won't you say it was doctored?. When it comes to knowing who God is, and obeying His word, man is inexcusable!.

I pray God will open your eyes.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 11:15am On Jun 13, 2018
bloodofthelamb:
Brother, you are really doing justice in here. The Lord Jesus is your wisdom and strength.
Amen!. Thanks very much.

May God's grace abide with you and all in Jesus name. Amen!.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 11:13am On Jun 13, 2018
chemystery:
Jesus or Yahweh have not spoken to you before. You only came to the world and met a book claimed to have been inspired by Yahweh. Even as there is no evidence that this is true, you still believed it because those who gave birth to you believed it and told you they were true.

Is this not evident that you really don't believe in Yahweh but in men who told you in writings that they were inspired by Yahweh, as well as men who propagated it to reach you? How come you trust these men you never met so much that you believed they weren't telling lies?

These men were the ones who Yahweh spoke to and therefore the ones who we would say believed (or should believe) in Yahweh. And now, all you are left with is to believe these men who claimed to hear from Yahweh are telling the truth, and at the end, you say you believe in Yahweh. No you don't! You only believe and trust that the authors of the bible books weren't telling lies. Shalom!
Hahaha... and how do you know that God hasn't spoken to me before?. God's standards never change. His yes in the time of Adam is yes now, so He basically repeats those things He has once told men of old. He never contradicts himself, however, if I don't understand a thing, I ask Him and He answers me.

Why do you think it's difficult for God to speak to man?, look, I am a child of God, and my Father speaks to me always. I am not a bastard, as a matter of fact, God always longs to fellowship with His children, that's why He made us, to have a dynamic relationship with Him. To get to that point, you must accept what He says, correct the errors He has pointed out, which is that you repent and accept His Holy son Jesus Christ and live in a godly way of love and faith.

Jeremiah 33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.

You can't call on the one you don't love, trust or believe, because there's no relationship between you both. Does that then mean it doesn't exist with others?.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Now that you don't believe in Jesus neither do you love Him yet, how can He abide with you to relate and fellowship with you?.

There are alot I can show you. If you don't know, you don't know. You have no idea what you're missing I tell you.

Is it the sweet time of personal fellowship I enjoy with Him or the moments of prayer that appears as if it should never end?. What pleasure in this world can compare?. But like I said, if you don't know, you don't know. But you see, in my Father's kingdom of love and light, we're not stingy, so we share this love and excitement for all who care to come. It's free and open to all to enjoy

Jesus Christ is the sweetest thing that can happen to any soul. Ah! If only you know cry
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 4:46pm On Jun 12, 2018
M0ron:
I’m not angry and the very insinuation that I am angry is not funny. That aside,
I don’t know what you think of when the word argument comes to mind. To me, it is a REASONED OPINION and not just a shouting match. Any debate/discussion even among believers can easily go south. That’s not the object of our interaction with atheists or anyone else for that matter. Atheists must be allowed to vent,must be listened to,and their arguments must be responded to. If they are not responded to, many fester into hardness of heart. They end up mistakin the Theists’ silence for agreeing with them
OK, sorry. Matter resolved.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 4:44pm On Jun 12, 2018
chemystery:
This is not politics section. We are talking about religion here and about a supposed omnipotent and omniscient god, an all-loving and all-forgiving god. Now you want to use an entity with limitations to qualify another entity without limitations just to relief burden off your imaginary entity without limitations.

Let me show you example by making the government omnipotent:
Won't an omnipotent government just reset the minds of all the militants? Way easier for it than the whole amnesty drama. So that's a false analogy.



Someone in chains wishes I get saved. Funny!
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery. None but yourself can free you.
It's OK, at least you have heard and read the message. You have right of choice to either reject or accept. I will not argue or quarrel with you about that.

For the avoidance of doubt, the truth and the fact here is that Jesus the Son of God came to the world, paid the price and penalty of our sins. Whosoever believes in Him by repenting of his/her sins and accepting Him, will be saved!.

This is the verdict of the Lord:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


This is the whole matter in summary. Whatever you choose to do, say, think and believe, is totally your choice, but the truth cannot be altered. May the light of God shine on you. Shalom.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 2:29pm On Jun 12, 2018
M0ron:
You can’t win a soul without talking to them. Atheists have genuine questions that you take for granted. They have doubts about your God nd about scriptures. Sparring with atheists is the starting point.

God may save them I agree,but does that means we shouldn’t listen to and even attempt to share our faith to them?

That’s escapist
My brother, please be not angry OK. If you clearly read through my submittions above, you will not see any where I mention, or even infered that we shouldn't talk or even argue with them. But my point is, the way and manner we do it is very important, and that in doing so, we mustn't aim to win every single argument. Doing so, will lead us into fighting and quarrelling with them, that will defeat the purpose of our mission. Sorry for making you misunderstand me. Shalom.
Christianity EtcRe: Explaining The Animosity Between Atheists And Theists by Primesky(m): 2:13pm On Jun 12, 2018
chemystery:
Atheist don't even want to argue. We only want to make the theists think and also teach them how to think. It is only the theist that wants to win argument for their god. Even if it entails lying to achieve that.

What truth do you have to present if not versions of stories told about your own version of god you were indoctrinated with. You would as well want to tell us another "truth" if you had been born in a family that believes in another version of stories told about another version of god.

Hahahahahaha! Jesus is willing to save me from what he will do to me if I don't believe that he is willing to save me from what he will do to me....
Were you in Nigeria when the Federal government granted amnesty to some militants?. What would have happened if they had refused to accept the offer?.

Was it the government that literally forced them into militancy?. Was their action a contravention of the laws of the nation?. Was there any consequences for contravening those laws?. Will it be good for the government to allow them continue their destructive action forever without striking them down?.

So if the government gives a period of grace and says, repent, and you will be pardoned or else, you will be taken down, and the militants refuse, will you call the government evil and wicked?.

My dear, repent and accept God's amnesty through Christ Jesus now, so that you can be saved. Do so before it's too late. I know you may want to argue and say, for what crime?. Well, so some militants asked as well and paid for it.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Jesus Christ saves!.

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