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TATIME:
God has determined to destroy Satan and the demons who kept misleading people right from the time of Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve were destroyed at death because they were flesh and so is any of their rebellious offspring. On the other hand Satan and his demons are spirits,so God will destroy them along with any of Adam's descendants who also joined in the rebellion at the end. But to keep living creatures somewhere where they'll be crying under excruciating pain in torment for just 30minutes is unthinkable from Jehovah's standpoint
Haba! Please JEHOVAH is not like that. Jeremiah 7:31
Regarding your insinuations that someone is evil, know today that there is no harm that either Satan, demons or their human agents can cause that can take JEHOVAH 24 hours to restore! So my friend, the evil person has done nobody any harm but himself because when we're given the privilege to live forever they'll be dead as in NON~EXISTENSE! Psalms 37:7-11 Proverbs 2:21,22
Ordinarily keeping their wickedness and bad record in mind is something that the true God abhors!

Hmm... Are you taking based on what the bible said or based on what you think should be the case?. I doubt what you said is God's stand point. See below:

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Read the passage very well and tell me, are there not human spirits involved here, the false prophets that worked deceptive miracles and those who received the mark of the beast?.

For how long did the passage say both they and the devil will be tormented in the lake of fire?. Take note of the torment in Fire!. Does forever and ever mean instant, few years, some billion years or does it mean never ending?. Maybe the dictionary can help us out.

You can't be better than God, take His word as it is, period!. This doesn't make Him bad. He warned against it, so stay away from it!. Don't tell Him how to punish His enemies.

Once again, read my post which you just quoted.

OneJ:
Primesky, bawoni ? "The real man is a spirit dwelling in a body. If he, the spirit is not in the body, the body is dead. the spirit is different from the breath of life"
The holy scriptures says NO !
Eccl 3:19-21
"Man's fate is like that of animals... as one dies,so dies the other. ALL HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT. Man has no advantage over the animal.
v20 "ALL goes to the same place, all comes from dust; and to dust all return."
21 " Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and if the spirit of animals goes down into the earth?"

"Do not put your trust in princes in mortal men who can not save. When their spirit departs they return to the ground"
Psalms 146:3,4.

"When you (Yahweh) take away their breath, they die and return to the dust" Psalms 104:29

The breath of life is the 'spirit' in man and animals.
" The body (of man and animals) with out spirit (breath of life) is dead, so faith with out deeds is dead" James 2:26.
Yahweh the Creator of man and animals can not lie. Num23:19.
The breath of life is not a spirit being. Demons are spirit beings, like wise angels.
Primesky,man is not a spirit being.how many angels and demons U dey see everyday?
Your claims are not scriptural.
No dull yourself.

I sometimes wonder how old you are?. The way you reason and deduce things leaves so much to be desired. I think you're just being economical with the truth!.

Matthew 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

Please o, what is Jesus saying here?. What is this aspect of man that is so alluded to?.

I have told you, that man is a trinity. Body soul and spirit. Both man and animal body is made of dust. Both have a life force, you can call it breath. But man has a unique person call spirit and soul.

The breath of man and the spirit of man are not the same. Get it right, stop quoting scriptures out of context.

Numbers 16:22 And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?


The passage talks about the SPIRITS of all flesh suggesting individual spirit of men. What else do you want?.

1 Kings 22:21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.

Does spirits talk, yes!. why?. They are persons with reasoning. God does not relate with flesh and blood but with the spirit.


Job 27:3 All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils;

Job 32:8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

My dear, can you see the distinction between breath and spirit?.

Zechariah 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

Now, look and see the above passage that God formed a special being called spirit within man, unique to everybody. That's beyond breath of life!.

Matthew 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Seriously?!. Can an ordinary breath be willing, as in, can it have emotion and reasoning like that, and yet not a person?. Common!.

The passages in Ecclesiastes you quoted tells you about the frailty of man just like the animals, that's obviously taking about the body and breath.

Go through the scriptures and see that, both the Holy Spirit of God, strength, breath and the real person of man are all refered to as spirit. But the context, will explain which is which. Love is used frequently today, but you can tell when lust is inferred rather than true love. May God lead you.

OneJ:
@Primesky, in matt 10:20, John 14:17,16:13 & 15:26 were the words of Jesus Christ himself.
The words in those verses were spoken by Jesus Christ after he received the holy spirit when he was baptized Matt 3:16,17.
Even the words Jesus heard at his baptism where not spoken by the holy spirit , but spoken by Yahweh who said "this is my son whom I love"
(ii) Throughout the length and breadth of the Bible, Yahweh had one on one conversations with his servants (Moses, Abraham etc) on many occasions.. Christ himself did the same, he spoke to people at different times.
My question for U:

(iii) in your Bible, where did the holy spirit have. one on one conversation with somebody?

(iv) " The spirit of my Father speaking THROUGH YOU" God's spirit always function through some one because it is not a person.

v) The Father name na Yahweh ,Him son name. na Jesus, what is the name of the holy spirit? Why eee no get name.?

The holy spirit is the power of Yahweh at work to accomplish whatever Yahweh wants.

Seriously, I wonder how you guys reason o. The spirit of God speaking through you is what?. I don't know what to say to you again. You mean, you could still try to fault the written scriptures with unconnecting reasoning?.

Please tell me this verse below is a typographical error.

Acts 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.

Please how could the Holy Ghost say something?.

What is the name of God's Spirit?. See question?.

We have God the Father, God the son and God the Holy Spirit.

Three in one person. Just as you are three in one person. The Spirit of God is called Holy Spirit. I don't know what else you want to know. If there is any other spirit with that title or name, please let me know, even though all the heavenly spirit beigns are holy, who else has this specific title?.



Now, you quoted what Jesus said somewhere as a proof, did you also consider these two below which Jesus also said about the Holy Ghost?.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

If the Holy Spirit is not a personality, how can he be teaching?. How can he testify about Jesus Christ?. How is it that he can remember what the disciples have forgotten and remind them?. The fact that He can teach, testify and remind from the passage should above, should tell you that He is a rational person.

Also, Jesus calls Him a comforter. How can a non rational person comfort a rational person?. Can you explain that?.

Ahasco:
I weep for people like you. You know why? Cos it's either you lack the act of reasoning and deep thinking or you just don't want to make use of the brain. Even when you see the true light you still choose to embrace fire which you call light or think to be true light. How else do you want one to explain this to you? For crying out loud why not set your "Holy book" aside and reason with just your brain which is actually the seat of the Almighty God.

When I say the devil is a liar, some people think it's a joke. Can any sensible person imagine this guy telling me to set the Holy Book aside?.

I pity you seriously!. There are many prophecies in the bible, both good and bad. To see someone fulfilling the negative ones is totally disheartening.

Well, let me tell you, the thing Otem is telling you people, I know it, I have seen more than I can say. It's all falsehood and lies. This things have been planned long ago, but the devils waited for such a time as this when people have let down their spiritual guard, especially Christians, and what they tell them is, you're migrating to a higher frequency. What nonsense!.

Should I at all be surprised at these?. Didn't Lucifer deceive angels who where seeing God face to face, so what will it take him to deceive men who haven't seen God directly. I don't think you know what you are doing.

The trick on man is vicious and very subtle. I urge you to seek Jesus Christ now, there's nothing else I can tell you. Only Him can guide you.

OtemAtum:
All things are parts of the system called GOD. God itself is EXISTENCE, nothing more or less.

What a shame!. So an it made you?.

God itself?. Whoever reasons this way?.

I am not part of this nonsense. My maker is the almighty living God, Yahweh Elohim.

Everything else is His footstool.

Jesus Christ is Lord forever!.

LordReed:
LMFAO! I have no need for fairytale saviours like superman or human sacrifice.

You're like a three months old baby fighting the mother carrying it, simply because it's angry. The baby doesn't realise that if the mother leaves it, it will fall disastrously.

You can't fight your maker. Be thankful to God for still keeping you alive. You definitely need the saviour Jesus Christ.

JeromeBlack:
When you look at this world, can you really believe that a loving God created it?

You are only praising God because you were not born in Somalia or Sambisa. The people who live there are in hell. The suffering they have gone through is a whole lot. Do you know that some people commit suicide before they are caught by boko haram?

You are here enjoying a/c in your church talking about love because you were born in the right religion.

See, you are talking like this because your eyes are blind as a human being. Every human being has a limited vision. I think for our own good, God doesn't allow us see the raging battles going on around, under above and within us.

I wish God will just allow you less than 5mins. So that you can see things. Do you know what it takes to keep you alive through the night?. Do you know the probability of you going out of your house and coming back alive?. Ah!.

God dey try o. If na me, the way i will punish people no be small, but thank God for who He is. That after all He's doing for us, rather than a thank you, what He always gets is complaining and mummurring.

Let me ask you, those incidences you mentioned, is God responsible for them or man?. May be you don't understand who you are. God respects the choice and decisions of man, because He made it so, and He will also not allow the devil to force you against your will.

Notice that Satan can not come to you directly and kill you, he will always use man in one way or another, he can't try it, except you give him that permission.

If all of us humans now follow God and obey His command, how can the devil do anything. If God now decides to force man against man's will, won't man still accuse Him of breaking His own rule?.

But know this, the reign of man's will and choice has an end. After that, God will step in, not setting aside man's will power and choice, but He will directly influence it. Right now, you must accept that we as humans have failed, not God.

The day God removes His hands from man, that will be the end of man, maybe you think Satan is joking with men abi?. If he has his way, we will all be long dead already.

My dear, be grateful to God, I am telling you the truth, if only you can see beyond the vale. But most importantly, give your life to Jesus Christ. Thanks.

TATIME:
Eternity is just in two forms my friend, Life or Death forever!
Adam is the first sinner and his judgment is death forever but his descendants that turns out to be obedient can gain what Adam lost "living forever"!
Whoever teaches you any other thing apart from that is simply saying "God has no power to end lives" or "God is wicked". Because the Bible says HE is JUST :meaning HE will not continue to be wrathful for eternity. Most humans lived all their lives within the time limit of 100 years and you are suggesting that God will not allow them to die again but keep them crying forever! Haba! When the Bible says HE is LOVE. 1John 4:8
Again whenever HIS creatures are experiencing pains God is not feeling comfortable, we see this in the way HIS son bursts into tears seeing people suffering. John 11:35:
Now you're teaching yourselves according to the wickedness in the heart of men but JEHOVAH is not like that! Jeremiah 7:31

My dear, be very wary of what sounds good and true, but is not. What you've said now will naturally make sense to the human mind, but that's far from the truth.

You can't be better than your maker. The Lord said this is what I will do, and you're saying that's not it. This is obviously the lie of the devil.

Being just does not mean that God's judgment will be over in a second, no that's not what it means.

Now, let me ask you. If a bad man knows that all that will happen to him after he has done so much evil, is to just die and disappear, why should he worry about the judgment?. But the judgment is feared, in that, it is not only terrible, but everlasting as Jesus himself said it, you can't be more righteous than Jesus na.

Now, get it, hell fire was not prepared for man, no never, rather, it was prepared for the devil and his fallen colleagues on the account of sin. It's like saying this is where all the angels who committed sin will be punished. But unfortunately, man also fell into that same trap.

Now, Here comes the virtue of God being just. God will be unjust not to punish man as well. But see what He did, He gave man a second chance, made the payment for him, this gravely annoys Satan.

If any man after all these, dies in sin, he /she has no body else to blame but him/herself, and will be cast into the same place.

Now, do you know why Lucifer made that stupid attempt in trying to overthrow God, His maker?. I am thinking that it's because of over familiarity with God, for all the while this angel has known God, God was a very gentle, loving, never angry and merciful God, so he probably thought he could do any thing a get away with it, highest, God will be very angry, and then he will apologize and that's it, just as you are suggesting.

God has decided to use these fallen angels as an example for all creation to know that He can kill, wound and destroy too, if you mess around His Holiness. If Lucifer and all the sinners dies and disappear, don't you think some angels and saints, who will be living in future eternity, would forget this, and try the non sense again?.

This is more like, hey everyone, look here what I can do, if you foolishly think I am weak and indifferent.

Please, don't buy the lie of the devil, and don't make the stupid mistake he made by over assuming. Shalom.

PrecisionFx:
Jesus's death on the cross is a blood ritual n any sane human shouldn't be interested in such.

No, rather, only the sane and reasonable will consider it.

That a guiltless man, as Pontuis Pilate testified, gave Himself for you as a substitute, so that you will be saved. That's the greatest love story, the greatest sacrifice ever made. But here you are making fun of it, what shall be done for you again?.

Well, you have no excuse, since you know that He died and shed His blood, since you know that a sacrifice was made. In the end, the question will be what did you do with it?.

To some, it shall be a damnation, for others it shall be salvation. The choice is yours.

But I will advice you to choose life, by accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal saviour.

PrecisionFx:
Jesus is an Italian project.

Oh really?!, But you're a divine project of Jesus Christ!. How is your own opinion then possible?.

Return and be saved. The night is near don't let it catch up with you.

Jesus loves you, and Jesus saves.

PrecisionFx:
Ur fathers house, LMFAO.

My Father's house is in heaven above, but represented here on earth by the church of Jesus Christ.

Which is your own Father's house?.

OtemAtum:
I predate the bible. Every soul predates the bible, because every soul existed with God Almighty right from time. Note that the time when you become conscious on earth is not the same as the time when you began to exist. I will give you some of the histories of my existence billions of years back.

The devil is a lair!.

The word of God is authority. You have no grounds against the bible. All you have to deal with Here on earth, is the word of God given to you by God Himself.

If God wanted us to use abstract knowledge of procreation era, He wouldn't have given us His word, the bible.

These are some of the ways the devil is deceiving you. You cannot know nothing, except that which God has permitted you to know. Where else can it be found except in the bible?.

Repent and receive Jesus Christ now!. Stop this expensive joke already!. Eternity is not something to joke with, I tell you the honest truth.

OtemAtum:
Nothingness didn't give birth to reality. God Almighty had always existed and there is no beginning to existence. I god Otem have always existed as a very very very minute fraction of God Almighty. Yahweh your god, Olorun, Abassi, Allah, Moloch and every other god had always existed as a very very very minute fraction of God Almighty too.
Read the book of Otem Sapiens Chapter 1 for clarity.

Otem Sapiens 1: 5-15
5. That which is called God Almighty cannot exist independent of all the souls in this system, because the summation of all souls and all things in existence is God.
6. At a point in the infinite beginning, all souls and all things dwelt together, having no individual consciousness, but a collective consciousness, which is the Consciousness called God(Mirosh).
7. This Consciousness exploded by the energy of itself and space, time, light, water, a complex animal, a complex Homo and other things yet inexplicable emerged. The light entered into the complex Homo and in this Homo dwelt all souls.
8. The position occupied by the Homo was the innermost Universe, which was the only universe back then. The space within this universe was limited and quantifiable. In this Homo dwelt uncountable languages and souls, which are the human souls.
9. These souls dwelt in frozen peace like a vacuum such that they were not conscious of their existence.
10. The souls were uncountable, yet God(the complex Homo) knew one from the other.
11. These are the names of a very few of the uncountable souls which dwelt unconsciously within this complex Homo(God): Knoliud, Miklas, Tactilus, Ogbris, Earthus, Frigg, Atum, Jupiter, Yahweh, Baruch, Marcus, Vishnu, Chaleb, Moloch, Adinoi, Son, Faulkin, Wilbur, Ogun, Luwabi, Bookie, Olorun, Nyame, Bongo, Keltiel, Odin, Eusebius, Aole, Osanobua, Jurgen, Einstein, Dewey, Thorndike, Obatala, Chukwu, Abassi, Waldis;
12. Mellen, Graham, Orville, Putin, Balogun, Elijah, Obama, Messi, Vincent, Malaika, Ghandi, Freud, Mazda, Enlil, Marduk, Ishtar, Venomus, Khan, Ephradite, Ronaldo, Danyal, Wemmus, Coatlicue, Anansi, Zoroaster, Kitu, Ohomorihi, Deganis, Semihazah, Jasheb, Shegub, Ekwueme, Jackson, Bongani, Unkulunku, Athrahasis, Zeus, Illat, Nicholas, Adabara, Mencken, Ugep;
13. Agabus, Job, Daoud, Rita, Sin, Tesla, Baalim, Melchizedek, Ifa, Amadioha, Ala, Sekume, Asamoa, Obaro, Wilhelm, Shakespeare, Curtis, Wole, Stevin, Murmoh, Shiva, Moh, Dalton, Goodness, Kepler, Edison, Destiny, Gbubemi, Nyong, Chike, Frimpong, Archibong, Cletus, Ndifreke, Merotiwon, Yaga, Thiago, Ngugi, Krishnamurti, Bartlet, Dae So, Nebuchadnezzar;
14. Weah, Muyiwa, Fodio, Juwon, Rimon, Bayajida, Krathwohl, Battuta, Gottlob, Gestalt, Marley, Solarin, Lopez, Streri, Tamuno, Zed, Rugaba, Priestley, Delacey, Suzuki, Lift, Lennon, Woodworth, Imhotep, Ereshkigal, Windigo, Ojo, Wishposht, Sogblen, Chatur, Ra, Chloe, Darwin, Sidibe, Siperet, Onyemaechi, Faleti, Ojonuba, Vichama, Omikron, Rastus, Timon;
15. Orodje, Runesocesius, Falcwald, Bratonin, Kumla, Mirza, Sargon, Ziusudra, Libya, Thoth, Kane, Durkheim, Gate, Galokwudzuwis, Evander, Obama, Karl, Anita, Sule, Ayadi, Kagunko, Osaka, Obubra, Jamshyd, Izanami, Bototo, Fudo-Myoo, Oghene, Hyde, Seidenfeld, Mugabe, Pratt, Cameroon, Sango, Eshu, Ofuje, Eche and uncountable others, including myself and you who read this history.

That's right, what about grasshopper, coacroach, mosquito, wall gecko, Spider...

Tell the thief to get out of my Father's world. He has no inheritance here. He has been judged!.
The devil is a liar.

Jesus Christ all the way!.

OtemAtum:
That's the word of Cuenca when the deception was so much. The death of fictitious Jesus was so useless that Cuenca noticed its ineffectiveness and uttered this statement. May the light of God save you from the foolishness of the fictitious story of Jesus. Hmm,

Cue.. what? Don't worry very soon you wouldn't have any name to call again

The sweetest name there is, is the name of Jesus Christ

Oh how entertaining and fun it was that day when Jesus made a mess of all the power and kingdom of darkness. They are still reeling from the trauma.

Colossians 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Jesus Christ is super!

Oya take drum to your masters to continue their wailing

But know that your real Father is Jesus Christ!. It's not wise for a prince to serve a mad man. Stop it.

OtemAtum:
When you write histories down, generations to come will not fall into the errors that the past ones fell into. That's the essence of writing it down. Read the song of Jenny and be wise.

If that is the case, then you're mistaken and confused.

The bible predates you, and it is telling you factual and accurate history of past, present and future events, rather than allow it to guide you, you opt for your own. You decide to make what suit you. Tell me, how wise that is?.

Who in the world is Jenny?. There are many singers in the world, Jenny can be anybody, why should I listen or read about Jenny. Jesus Christ, not Jenny, is who matters.

Jesus Christ is Lord over all forever!.

OtemAtum:
They have lied to you

You are the one lying to me. Fortunately, I can decern your lies by the help of the Holy Spirit of God.

The devil is a liar!.

LordReed:
Abeg go and multiply some bread and fish or eggs for IDP camps and change water to tea while you're there. LoL. If your own faith no reach, call your pastor make e go do am.

Don't push it away, is what I said true or false?. If you haven't seen you won't believe.

How can a drowning man give conditions for his salvation?. I just don't get it. Worst of all is when a dying man does not even realise that he's dying!. Ah!. That's terrible, how can such a one be saved then, seeing he's fighting everybody away. It's a pity.

But Jesus Christ still saves.

OneJ:
Bro, wetin U know understand dey confuse U. James 2:26 "As the body with out SPIRIT is dead , so faith with out works is dead"
Eccl 12:7 "... the SPIRIT returns to God who gave it"
Primesky , is that "spirit" (in James2:26, Eccl12:7, ) actually the holy spirit?

2) Did God send Adam to hellfire, yes or no?

3) Did Jesus preach to so-called spirits of the dead in prison? No !!!!
Let the Bible speak, 1 Peter 3:18-20
" "Christ was put to death in the body but made alive in the spirit through which also he went to preach to the spirits in prison who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built". (Further proof Christ resurrected with a spiritual body).
Primesky who were the "spirits in prison who disobeyed long ago when Noah built the ark?

"The sons of God (Angels ) went after the daughters of men& had children by them" Genesis 6:4.
Jude 1:6 "Angels (now demons) who abandoned their own home (heaven) these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains " (these are the spirits in prison)

In the days of Noah, these angels disobeyed God by having kids with women on earth.

4) To grieve the holy spirit (a figure of speech) which means to reject God's power to guide U to live a Christ like life

Acts 2:33,38" Christ has received from the Father the promised holy spirit and has poured out what U now see and hear"
v38" And you will receive the gift of the holy spirit"
( Did Yahweh give out "God" as a gift?)
Acts1:8 " But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes on you"
did God (a)pour himself on Christ ? (b) pour himself on followers of Christ (c) Pour himself
on Mary ,Elizabeth? Luke 1:35,41.

Acts4:7,8 "By what POWER or what name did you do this?
Verse 8 provided the answer to v7 question.
v8 "Then, Peter filled with the holy spirit...
The holy spirit is the power Yahweh promised to gift His servants- Jesus &Christ's followers.

I know that only God can save you. There is nothing any human being can do to save you from. This level of disbelieve and falsehood. You probably where born into it.

You're still maintaining that the Holy Spirit is just a force and not a personality. But that's a lie. Stop denying the truth.

So, to grieve the Holy Spirit is a figurative speech?. What a shame!. Just so you could defend a lie?. Come on bro.

Matthew 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

Does an ordinary force speak, like a rational person?. Take note who said this.

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Can you refer to a mere 'active force' as He or Him?. Again, take note who said that.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

How can a non living conscious being, testify, speak, or remember to say something. Who said these words pleas?.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Again, the spirit, shall not speak of 'Himself', what He hears, He speaks. Wait, an ordinary force?.

If you say you believe in Jesus Christ, why do you not believe His very words?. Because He said these.

When a lie is in motion, you will need more lies to keep it rolling. Every evidence in the bible tells you of the trinity of God, but no, you would not believe it.

That's why you were asking if God poured Himself on Jesus and the Apostles. My dear, you are yet to encounter the real Jesus Christ, otherwise these things you are saying wouldn't have arisen.

× Can somebody imagine this OneJ saying that Jesus went to preach to fallen angels in prison?. Wonderful!. For what purpose exactly?. Please reason a little about this yourself.

Then you claim that Jesus rose spiritually, is the passage below a lie then?.

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

2:22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.


Look at verse 19. Which body was Jesus referring to. Spirit body?. I don't understand how you guys read the bible. For Christ sake, Jesus Christ rose with a physical body!.

John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.

What happened in the verse above?. So now, are you going to say flesh and blood can touch spirit as Jesus asked Thomas to do?. Again, consider verse 28 that Thomas called Him my LORD and my God, showing you the divinity of Jesus Christ. There is no lie anybody can tell to extricate him/herself from the reality of truth, except you just stubbornly want to be deceived.

* As for the verse in James you quoted, again you misinterpreted it. The real man is a spirit, dwelling in a body. If he, the spirit is not in the body, the body is dead.

This spirit is different from the Spirit of God, and the breath of life. Don't get it confused. 100 demon spirits can live inside one man!. Read up the story of the demon possessed man. Jesus cast out seven demons from one Mary in the Bible. Why do you still deny these things?.

Don't get into eternity with these lies you hold unto, because there will be no repenting there.

Mekanus:
Hahaha joker of the century. I should run to Jesus that couldn't even save himself and cried like a baby on the cross; according to your folklore? That nigga ain't real bro.

See, let me tell you something. If Jesus isn't real, then know you don't exist!. But the reality is what you see in the mirror.

You are a master piece of His wisdom and design, made out of love and care.

That love made Him die. And, please when next you talk about Jesus death, don't forget to mention that He also rose again, and is still alive! At least that will make you a little like an honest gentleman .


O boy, go back to your maker. He loves you.

HardMirror:
Hardmirror you must be mad and stvpid!

Nope. I am just being frank here.

Watched a video on a friend's phone, in the Video, pastor Chris was teaching on the power in the name of Jesus. He demontrated with members of his church asking two volunteers to step forward. He asked the woman to shout the name jesus and command the other volunteer (a man) to fall and not be able to stand up. Guess what happened?.... oh you where expecting a spoiler there? Hehehe, trust me, no spoilers with pastor chris. The man fell and could not rise up again. All because he was commanded using the name 'Jesus' to cripple him.
Then he was released from the bondage, ... of cause not in hardmirror's name. But in the name of Jesus.

The church went mad and wild with excitement. (mad people)
Then using the name jesus pastor chis made hundreds of people fall at once by just throwing a handkerchief at them. Of cause he had to first fortify the handkerchief with the name of jesus. #*winks*

I have seen videos of benny hinn (ironically pastor chris' friend) do the same thing.

When i was a christian, benny hinn fascinated me above any other god of men.
Benny hinn can make the whole congregation fall with just a swope of his hands or with a little blow to the microphone. *mass hysteria is real*

The name of Jesus is useful for snake oil sales men called pastors, but never useful in solving any real life problem. After all the stunts people are willing to give their saving up but they all go back to the regular life anyone lives, even those that worship nothing.


How many people have died in accidents whiles shouting Jesus? Millions for sure.


What a useless name

What a cheap lie of the devil. A very cheap propaganda.

For all who cares to know, I am still alive today because of that powerful name of Jesus Christ.

For those who want to see first before they believe, may God have mercy on your souls.

But know this, except you confess your sins, repent, accept Jesus Christ into your life genuinely and be born again, you have no right to call on that name and expect miracles, who gave you the right?.

Even the devils call the name of Jesus, so why this cheap propaganda?.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Please Op, be careful not to mislead people by quoting the scripture upside down.

Do not forget that scriptures must be interpreted by scriptures as the bible said. So, why trying to buttress your point and defend your position on tithing, do not forget to search careful what the bible said.

For instance, most of the opponent of tithing always quote Apostle Paul as saying we should do away with the law, or it's a season of grace, but look at what the man said.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.



Pay attention to the last verse above and tell Me what you see there?. We are not under the law, yes, but we do not make void the law!. We are not justified by the law, but do not mess around with its commandments.

Certain practices, like animal sacrifices, eat this and don't eat this, likewise some other religious observations have been set aside based on scriptures.

But at no point did the Bible ask you to stop tithing.

Tithing as a matter of fact preceded the law. My dear, be very careful not to be deceived, and do not allow yourself be used to deceive another.

Malachi 3:10 still stands!. It's not about law, but about obedience, disobey and pay dearly for it!.

Ordinary feather is making noise before the consuming fire. In the end we shaker who will bow.

Mortal man. Fear God Otem!

King Solomon is one man many will describe as favoured, blessed and God fearing. This man saw and spoke with God one on one in a vision. He was close to God and was very much loved by God so much so that God called Him Jediddiah (beloved).

God made him both wise and wealthy, because he pleased God in his early years as king over Isreal. But was this enough? No!.

One would have thought that a man who was so close to and loved by God, the man who wrote the books of Proverbs and Ecclesiastes, would end up well and strong as a legend of faith. After all, he had the man after God's heart, David, as father. What a role model!.

But Solomon ended up poor, and had to depend on excessive and violent tax to maintain his large family.

Solomon who built the biggest and best temple for God in his days, turned away from God and built temples for idols and devils.

Solomon who prayed the glory of God down, turned around to be the one inviting all manner of strange gods and cultic practices to Israel.

Solomon who spoke with God at one point and was loved so closely, became an offense before God. This man of peace and grace became the reason why Isreal was divided into two!.

This man whose only burning desire was to do God's will in terms of leading God's people, became the very person who broke God's laws by marrying many strange ungodly women contrary to the instruction of God!.

What Happened? How could this be?.

Solomon allowed pride, greed and lust to eat away his heart and passion for God.

To Solomon, God became too common and familiar, so he could do without Him.

Solomon feared and respected the wishes of men more than God.

Note that the fall of this man wasn't instant but gradual.

Are these and many more sins not plaguing our lives today?. Have we not become too familiar with God, are we not now adding the doctrines of Satan to our faith?. Unbelievers now find it difficult to differentiate between us and them.

What shall be your end child of God?. Examine yourself.

Let him that thinketh he standeth, take heed lests he falls.

May God's grace abound to us all in Jesus name. Amen!.

OtemAtum:
Even Cuenca knew that your so called Jesus is an instrument and a tool of deception.


Lishius 16: 15-16
15. and Cuenca said, if this Krista whom they profess is more of a tool of deception than of truth, why then did he have to die at all?
16. For the deception in the name of this supposed son of god is already more than the truth.

As always, confused text.

Why did Jesus have to die?. Is this question coming from you or from the devil?.

Jesus came to save you like all mankind from sin and death. You should embrace His love and grace with both hands. But you're yet to see this.

May God open your eyes.

People should really be careful about this things. The gap between witchcracy and godly practice is very small.

The Eckanaka claims to be believe in God and the Holy Spirit, but totally shut out Jesus Christ. But the bible tells us, that no man can get to God except through Jesus Christ.

Don't be fooled by what you see and feel, for you will surely see, feel and even get. Ask King Saul in the bible, a witch helped him communicate with spirits. Good or bad you be the judge.

Anybody who tells you you can go to God directly without Jesus Christ, is not of God period!. Do not allow the scientific colourations bamboozle you.

LordReed:
LoL! And yet till tomorrow no one has replicated that miracle by Jesus even though he said greater things shall ye do. Tell me something real bro.

Look at this man. Will you deny that men have and are still demonstrating the power of God?.

Except you're ignorant of history or you out rightly have refused to accept the truth.

Men have raised the dead by the power in the name of Jesus Christ. Men have handled deadly viruses, rather than being affected, the virus died, or have you not read about this before?. The plague in South Africa?.

Oga, read, just read, and stop fighting your maker.

The truth about God is beyond reality, it is super real. I know you speak this way because you haven't seen, but you can't see if you're not humble and willing to learn. God hates pride.

Jesus Christ is the only saviour.

Mekanus:
Just shut the fu^ck up.

That's it!. There's no way a dirty heart can produce good things let alone be thankful.

See, to be free from these kind of foul, polluted language and life, quickly call and run to Jesus Christ, He will make you a new again, as He did for me. You can't save yourself.

Tell me, do you like yourself when you curse like this, will you be proud to see your children be like this?. These are the reasons why we have bad things all around us, yet we blame God.

Be grateful to God man.

OtemAtum:
God is Great! With the great infinite energy of God Almighty was Yahweh your god created. Take the truth and stop arguing.

I feel very sorry for you because you believe that nothingness gave birth to reality, what a great confusion!. Can a mango give birth/produce orange. Only in Otems mind does that happen, and don't call it miracle, because it's not, it pure confusion.

God almighty is Yahweh, Jehovah Elohim.