₦airaland Forum

olaboy001:
One thing I love about this man is that, he is a man of action, and not a man words. For action speaks better than words.
he’ll won’t fail those that believed in him.

Why Africa remains where it is today was because we can never see the bigger picture ...friend you better embrace the fact which is that APC have nothing to offer with the set of old fellows there ....

You can never give what you don't have ... Well i don't blame them ... This old men knows the typical Nigerians that thinks with his mouth not head.... Try those crazy campaign promises here in the western world and know if you will get a vote cos they see beyond what you speak.

Remember CHANGE don't necessarily means PROGRESS. it can be either way


Am most interested in his electricity promise ... He seems to forget that power generation is different from power transmission and distribution.... We took ourselves back for another four years.... Again you can't give what you don't have

Luukasz:
We cant conclude he has a future just yet there were many players back then who had more talent than him back then bt where are they today they've gone MIA,have you forgotten ANDERSON,DA SILVA'S TWIN BROTHER,our own MIKEL OBI where are they 2day.They are nowhere to be found

Just watch out .... He is technically and tactically gifted... His drafting and link up plays are way too matured ....

Speaking about Mikel.... I don't blame him ... He did what was right for him... Considering that no oyibo man believed a black can play number 10 position form them.... You will call okaocha ... If he were so good he could have won meaningful trophy with a meaningful club.... I can list African fine midfielders who ended up playing DM or even defense position....

Burger01:
These people are better left on their own. Jonathan scammed them and they are turning to Buhari for reprieve by cleaning up their mess. Shameless people.

Have you ever gone to ogini land before ?... Go there you will cry of the pain they live in yet they kept naija running.... Remember king saro wiwa?.... Learn and travel before talking poo

ortopazz:
honestly brov nothing too special about the Brazilians, they just playing their game being pacy and all but the problem is we did not take our chances when we had them, coach decision in the left flank costs us lots of aches..., our defensive mid fielders and keeper blunders cost us the game ...........like I pointed out earlier the team is too attack minded neglecting the defense....... my 3 cents..... nothing a good training or starting line up can't do fix.....


shey una con c dar awoniyi boy again..... that kan trash na Im cost US game ........ awomiyi go kill us o

When people say African coaches are Crazy ... Some will consider it insult.... How can you be playing with two strikers when you have no strength in midfield?.... How can he have played ifeanocho behind strikers ... With that we can not utilize his pace and ability..... Brazilian team has just two outstanding players ... No10 & no8 ( watch out for No 10, he has future ).... Finally who even brought the keeper to the tournament... Maybe he has contact ...same thing killing our stops.... Next time the coach should do the needful

OP... Stop deceiving people with all this poo you wrote here ....

olaideeeedris:
Bros you are the one who obviously is speaking with sheer sentiments. Buhari used a terminology which many of u don't understand and if u don't understand something, there is no harm in asking questions. What he said would be moved to the northeastern part of the country is only a faction of the military and not the whole as u and ur likes are misunderstanding the whole thing. Keep quiet and watch bro, America will still come and ask how we did it.

Hahahahabhahahahabaha, I may want to agree from the part of the stuff you wrote but what PMB said was clear ..... In an undetailed statement that the federation military central command will be moved to the northeast state ...... But what really amazed me more Was the part you said America will come and ask....My brother wake up that our military is the best or whatsoever where Nigeria as a country still uses jet like phanton 4 in its armory.... You can imagine F22 raptor and F16 A eagle..... so wake up

olaideeeedris:
That is USA bro. This is Nigeria, a country bedeviled with in security and corruption. Different approach is needed to combat these cankerworms

We celebrate ignorance with joint high level of stupidity and sentiments..... The young man wrote a wonderful stuff with a very clear fact .... You are here talking nonsense.... Military is military.... Imagine moving pentagon to combat zone or moving Israeli war room to combat zone .... It was a total down for the PMB .... .... He who thinks he knows it all end up not achieving nothing.... He needs sound and young people for advice .... A call like this shows he is so rusty and has nothing to offer.

coolzeal:
I don't see this country moving forward if we don't invest rapidly into other sectors like Agriculture, mining, education and adequate power supply to replace crude oil. I wish the oil could vanish now.

You better remove mining cos modern world are moving from it .... Ask Mexico and Napel they will tell you the cost of one earthquake....

eliment:
Jonathan is a corrupt man. He will never willingly declare his asset.

Really?..... Nigerians really are not yet of age to have freedom of speech... Africa in a whole will often abuse that chance of freedom of speech... Don't worry from May 29 try am and see if decree 4 will not send you 6 ft below .... Summary... Don't insult your president cos your father was never one and you may end up not becoming CEO of a company talk of president of Nigeria

[quote author=Proffdada post=34046141][/quote]My brother .... Nigeria Is not the only country in hard shit .... The entire Europe is in deep shit .... Then oil producing nations are facing the dance too.... It effect us more because we base our capital income on crude .... Russia is surviving today because they had other means and as you can see that they are selling their technology and armory like never before just to keep the economy ... If you understand the economics there you will know that one week can change everything

Oklander:
Jonathan, the worst thing to ever happen to a country, just look at the state we are in today in this country, smh.

Easily are people like you get turned because rational call from the person of saint danjuma.

Funny enough that Nigerian citizens do not know its a payback to Jonathan for threatening Saint Danjuma that he will withdraw the license to the oil well allocated to him..... We speak of scarcity of fuel today and some people are calling GEJ to be the prime cause but I ask this .... Out of 28 oil well we have .... How many are allocated to the north ..... 24 ...right? Which danjuma are one of them .... Marketer holding the nation to ransom are the northerns and the Yorubas? Now eh is to blame?

Back the main issue of the thread..... GEJ did not wreck Nigeria .... Either did he accumulate the Debt .... Kindly check below link to see that his administration only had $21.8b or so as debt .... Our problem is that Nigerians are one of the most nations that have graduates yet we all behave like illiterates by allowing this old men who will never leave our political arena to control our sentiments and emotion....

GMB and Osibanjo must consult their expert on every matter before the grant interview so they don't give inaccurate figures, so as they should have know the state of economy when they were busy promising haven and earth during campaign only to give excuses of the FG not having money in a means to skip doing what they promised.

Well I don't blame them ....i do blame the gullible Nigerians like the one I quoted above to believe in their bogus promises....

Soon they will realize that to rule is different from to campaign....

Am watching in 4D till 1N=$1





http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/okonjo-iweala-jonathan-incurred-21bn-of-63bn-national-debts/210139/?utm_medium=twitter

walexGodson:
Na God go p.unish GEJ and co for bringing Nigeria down

Why can't you read well, if you do not understand... You solicit for help .... Economics could be hard at times..... GEJ did nothing to Nigeria.. .... We just believed lies from the so called old men gang.


Osibanjo and GMB should learn to consult experts before speaking incorrectly.... Thank God they are in Nigeria because in the western world.... One incorrect acuse or any unattainable promises shall be received with excess backlash.....

hansad:
Lol, long after the presidential election campaign ended, they are still trying to sell Buhari candidacy to Nigerians. They are aware Buhari emergence of president is unusual - in a. country endowed with young, well educated, healthier people capable of leadership.

Buhari they rejected thrice became president - how. Definitely not because of Jonathan's much touted failure.

A lopsided political structure threw up a Buhari as President, the structure unless adjusted must continue to throw up Buhari-like presidents till....

Well said .... When we as a nation will realize what hit us .. it will be too late

MugabeRobert:
Your nanny must have replaced the content of your feeding bottle with mud water. Dundee United.

Hahahahhaha it actually made me smile .... But next time show that your mum was not a street escort and show some respect... i made a point .... Never called you for a war of words

Nigerians are allowing themselves to be fooled by this GMB.... I thought he said that there is nothing like subsidy payment ... Lolz campaign has come and gone and truth am coming out .. why are they talking about paying subsidy money now since to them it never existed ?......

Try this unthinkable promises GMB made during the campaign here at the western world and see if you will get one vote... Anyways the old men in Nigeria knows how our mind works and they often take advantage of it..... GMB will prefer to have a BH disturbed government than the predictions of the forthcoming drastic fall of oil price to come... Remember some war are better fought with pen and brain not just weapon of terrorism.

buzquet:
We can nw c d evidence of change. Nt one clueless man claiming to av no shoes, n latter owns lyk 5 private jets

Easy man .... He is no saint... He just got a good management team... Working so hard to keep him to subject of his campaign....and making leads in Internet like this and people like you fall to it at first hand.

Sharksblow:
This is the kind of president we need.

Hahahahhaha .... Bro I wish to inform you that we are not seeing things the way they are .. Few months ago GMB said that there was no subsidy but why did Nigerian Labour congress and APC started panics few weeks ago when they felt that the FG did not include subsidy servicing in the budget.... Nigeria wake up .. Some of these old men knew exactly how our mind and head works ... We clap and cheer for a little thing ... If people think this man we fix Nigeria.. Then we are yet ready to take a 1000 steps back... I look to see feeding of school children, light train, 1N =1$ , 100% electricity.. lets wake up to reality, the entire world is broke not just Nigeria

CHESSBOARD:
Bloody lies.... is it 500 Naira per liter now??, Dont call that Name " JESUS" in vain..... Oil marketers are mostly Yorubas and hausas and you are holding Goodluck responsible, if they know they are doing clean and true business why are they afraid of subsidy removal, they will bring empty Tanker and connive with their cohorts to get paid by federal government.

Thank you my brother .... GEJ everything but one day will come when we shall wish if we had supported him .... It's only in Africa and Nigeria will people listen to unattainable promises from the formal left wing and still vote for them .... without oil money we are nothing

bettercreature:
Look at this fools posting as if na today Nigerian government started paying subsidy,you fools should tell us where GEJ kept all ourmoney,GEJ has finally bankrupt Nigerian,this stupiit president spent all our money on his stupid election,GEJ where is our money?

Clap for yourself Yeye man

dearpreye:
It's really sad that we're are subjected to this level of stress and suffering just to get fuel to power our vehicles and generators. The pains are really depressing. The queues are so long and burdensome.

However, it's time we realise that there's NO gain without pain. As hurtful as it may be, subsidy isn't sustainable, and must go.

GEJ tried to do this back in 2012, but we resisted and protested against it. Today, the cycle of pain is still with us. Subsidy must go!

A true test of character will be revealed by the GMB will handle this sensitive matter. After pandering to his broom wavers for some time, he will still have to face the reality. Subsidy must go!

The easiest way is not necessarily the best way. Prepare ahead. Be proactive.

YOUR GMB EVEN SAID THEN THAT SUBSIDY WAS NOT EXISTING.... HOW DO HE STOP WHAT HE BELIEVED THAT IS NOT EXISTING... NIGERIAN CITIZENS GAVE THE ROOM TO ALL THIS.... MORE IS COMING .... THERE ARE WAR BETTER FOUGHT WITH PEN THAT TERRORISM.... GMB GO LEARN THAT HE CAN NOT RUN THE COUNTRY WITHOUT OIL INCOME WHICH IS ABOUT 95% OF OUR CAPITAL INCOME... PREDICTIONS HAVE IT THAT OIL PRICES WILL DROP IN JULY AS IRAN RELEASES ITS STOCKED CRUDE .....NIGERIA GET READY FOR MORE

philips70:
Who engages akamu brains?

We aren't in the same league .... Super eagles don't play with the falcons.... I still maintain that you should get a job and get a life ..

philips70:
Deluded fellows. More than 50 persons were killed in Rivers state in the past months because of the elections. I have searched the web for a condemnation from Aso rock and found none. Some were buried in Omoku yesterday. Peaceful man my arse. World leaders should continue massaging his ego till May 29th. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

Funny enough you don't have a name and will never have a meaningful surname like GEJ through out your stay on earth... Get a life mumu

socialmediaman:
Actually there are differences and divisions in many parts of the world, take for instance, the U.S.; the north and south went to war at some point in history around the slave trade era and certain divisions have remained.

In our case in Nigeria, I do maintain that our major problem is corruption and self centered ambition, not ethnicity. We tend to focus on the wrong things.. Tell me, how many of us would protest against unemployment in this country if we're employed? And how many would protest non-payment of wages if they're unemployed. But we'll gladly do this for political leaders for peanuts, to help them achieve their selfish interests that sometimes don't necessarily benefit us

I have so calm to follow up with your opinion on this but I came to understand that you do not know the problem of the nation Nigeria.... No disrespect

One can simply say that corruption is the main issue but that is quite a big lie ... Where was corruption when the kano massacre in 1966 leading to ojukwu calling for biafra...

It's simple my brother... If you follow up the history of Nigeria as a state , you can quite agree with me that the price of blood paid for this nation has been more from the people from the east... If you closely study this interview with GMB you will realize that he is bent on violence .. Am not really an advocate of GEJ but we allowed the western world to play our hand knowing that buhari is power thirsty...

The mistake made by some of the parts of south south during the civil war is now starring at their face like an enemies spare... They chose to follow the wrong marriage called Nigeria but now am sure they have seen the end game.


Every country often have division but as it has run to our blood line ... An Hausa man can never love an igbo man and so on .... We better understand that we can never be one and the earlier we understand that the better for us ....


Finally GMB will now understand that to rule is quite different from false promises just for vote .. Cos there are more of oil price fall coming as expected when Iranian sanction will be lifted... Then he will pray for a BH than been helpless in ruling

illiad:
I don't blame hausafulanis.

I blame yorubas, benues, sobos & a section of south south like ikwerres & ijaws.

Na their foolishness dey responsible for this animal farm we are living in.

They rather live in abject servitude or receive a hand out like dogs for the rest of their lives than break a sweat for their freedom.

You are so right....

lastpage:
I have been an ardent follower of the israeli/Palestinian problem for decades.
Maybe you have not listened to documentaries concerning those indigenous Jews (cant remember how they are called now) who live in their kibutz and hamlets.
Everyone of them is sworn to wipe away the Palestinians.

And let me remind you that Israel as a Nuclear Power, CANNOT be wiped-out by ANY Muslim nation, not even Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.
That statement was made "DECADES" ago but Israel continues to 'trumpet it' till tomorrow, to garner sympathy and support from people who dont know the facts as they appear in reality. It is called deception and Israel is a "master" at it!

Some intelligent people "in the know" have said that "Israel and its attendant problems" will be the cause of a 3rd world war, not the Arabs as we think.

Again, it was NOT a "small Nation" that defeated the Arabs in the Yum Kippur War, it was the combined effort of America, Britain and most western Super Powers including France which "secretly" built the Dimona Nuclear bomb Site, for Israel in 1968-71.

Israel has always been supported by Super Powers and as of now, it is actually the most powerful country in the world since America itself has become a "puppet" of that tiny country (though it has its men planted in every important aspect of American life and ready to do damage to America if it does not dance to its tune)

if you have time, a few Books like the "The Samson Option" would shed more light on Israel.
*Did you ever wonder why anyone, including Bush or Obama or Clinton who ever wants to become an American president, must have to swear allegiance to Israel?
*Did you ever wonder why Israel is training and supporting the same ISIS and other Islamic radicals in the Middle East as of today
*Did you ever wonder how it is possible Israel has violated all and any United Nations resolution without any punishment, whereas some nations have been destroyed for violating one or tow or at best "sanctioned" for such?
*Have you wondered why Iran, which has never attacked any nation (It was Iraq that attacked Iran, just in case) is under sanction for trying to build a Nuclear bomb (even without any proof!) while Israel which has built many Nuclear warheads, never signed up to the Non-Nuclear proliferation treaty, which has attacked other nations at will and still practicing Genocide and Apartheid, walks free and proud?
*Has it occurred to you, what it means to have millions of Humans like me and you (even if we dont like them), can be kept "encaged" for decades, and the world simply seams to move on?
*Are you surprised that even Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia are prepared to support the impoverization of the Palestinians on one hand, give them money with the other hand while "funding and training Terrorists" to destroy Western establishments at the same time, just to foster their own brand of Islamic Wahhabism and domination of a different Islamic sect as obtained in Syria and Iran?
*Have you wondered why it has become a criminal offense for which you could be jailed anywhere in the world, just for if you exercise your "Freedom of though and belief" by denying the Holocaust? But you can deny that the Palestinians lived in the land before Israel came there just before 1947
*Do you know that Israel as a country, was supposed to be settled somewhere in "East Africa" around Ethiopia, before the Palestinian lands was "chosen" by the Americans and the U.K? That it was just a "fiat" of the U.N led by these two countries?

You might be right that the the Arabs contributed to their problem by being "difficult and aggressive" like most Muslims and Arabs but does that justify the inhuman and degrading treatment they still get, in the 21st century?

What does it cost the Super Powers (apart from friendship or out of fear of Israel) to share the Palestinian lands and give these millions of people their own HOMELAND?

Finally, as Christians, if these matter was tabled before Jesus Christ, do you for one minute think He will approve of this inhumane treatment of the Palestinians? Is this in line with "Do unto others and you would expect them to do unto you"?

I rest my case Sir.


Lastpage!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZYBUdzJuqI



Bro you might be right, but not all

1) The 1967 war, Israel has no support from British or America as president Johnson of America refuse to help.

2) The 1967 war has no trace of nuclear weapons

3) Israel fought with only 72 jet fighters while the Arab league has the support of the soviet union

4) I main rain that Israel was a small nation because they were just 19years since there founding, hence they has the population of about 2.5million people... They fought with only 3,000 soldiers and that's why Naser the head of the Arab league said he will wipe Israel out in 6hours even that he will have breakfast in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.

6) Finally ... Am an industrial physicist (nuclear expert) I worked on one of their facility for four years ... I can tell you that for the years ... They never had a production to nuclear war head though they always make advance technology ahead of all other part of the world in case ....

Kindly watch the YouTube link above so you can see the real information's on what happened in 6 days in June.

5) I lived in Ashdod, in Tel aviv and haifia... I have never witnesses a hate to kill in Israeli over Palestine.... Considering that Palestine people are living there but in Palestine schools...it has in its syllables for every child to live with a hate on the Jews.

lastpage:
But do you know that every 3yr old Israeli Jew wants to kill their Palestinian neighbour?

I have a strong feeling that "until there is Justice, Peace will always remain elusive".

if we dont solve the Palestinian Statehood problem, by giving them their own state, there cant ever be Peace around the world, between Christians and Muslims because that issue remains a reference pint about the duplicity and hypocrisy of "Christian" World Powers, especially the USA, Britain and most E.U states!

It is difficult to preach to someone, about what you are not practicing!

Having said that, Islam and Muslims need to organise a "Conference of Change".
Trying to use 'Force and Intimidation' of others to maintain the status-quo or convert them, will lead to more bloodshed and would achieve nothing, if not the exact opposite.


Lastpage!

I skipped one part.... It's a big lie about 3year old in Israel wanting to kill an Islamic man .... No .... I totally hate Israel as a country but they never advocate hate among them kids ....its a place I know .... Just check out the story of the Arab league and the first war in 1948 and finally the 6 days in June .... You will realize that Palestine put themselves in this mess and they should hold their brothers accountable for their issues... Because in the 6 days in June .... The sole aim of the arab league lead by then the Egyptian president was for them to cut off Israel from the face of the earth.... But a small nation defeated almost 7 countries joined together within three hours.... While fighting at Sinai mountain... Jordan attacked Jerusalem back home .... Them divided their fighting forces in the front and drive Jordan out and then Palestine too..... That's how they move to the owning of west wall.....

lastpage:
But do you know that every 3yr old Israeli Jew wants to kill their Palestinian neighbour?

I have a strong feeling that "until there is Justice, Peace will always remain elusive".

if we dont solve the Palestinian Statehood problem, by giving them their own state, there cant ever be Peace around the world, between Christians and Muslims because that issue remains a reference pint about the duplicity and hypocrisy of "Christian" World Powers, especially the USA, Britain and most E.U states!

It is difficult to preach to someone, about what you are not practicing!

Having said that, Islam and Muslims need to organise a "Conference of Change".
Trying to use 'Force and Intimidation' of others to maintain the status-quo or convert them, will lead to more bloodshed and would achieve nothing, if not the exact opposite.


Lastpage!

Palestinians have themselves to blame .... If you know the history behind the west bank ...you will know that they screwed up and they have to hold their Islamic brothers accountable for not integrating with them rather they gave them camp like.....

KINDLY READ ABOUT THE 6 days in June

lastpage:
I am a Christian and this is where l defer.

I think first, "real Muslims" (as against the Ignorant, hypocritical, fanatical and bloodthirsty types) need all the HELP they can get, to showcase themselves.

Secondly, l think the Quran, like any religious book, needs "Deliverance" from Old and Archaic doctrines.
The Bible was "delivered" in the New testament, By Jesus Christ, where he condemned similar murderous pronunciations by the likes of Moses and other "human" prophets in the likes of Muhammed!
But where is the "Jesus" of this falsehood called Islam going too come from? Are we going to have another Prophet Muhammed?
The Imams that could have fulfilled this noble role are all to happy to take advantage of the "ignorant masses" and use them to their own selfish advantage, just like modern-day Pentecostal "G.O's and Pastors" are content in taking advantage of their gullible church members.

Third, The message in the Quran exposes its foundation and source as that of a man who was bent on war, destruction, human suffering, slavery, debauchery, exploitation of the young/innocent, pedophilia, hatred, lack of regard for human life, self-immolation and everything "negative" you can think about.
Mohammed was never about "Religion or Peace" but all about "Conquest, Murder, Greed and Selfishness"

Muslims have to reconcile with themselves by first "admitting and confessing" which is a precursor to repentance, and then preach forgiveness, Love and Tolerance.

I foresee and predict a time will come when the "whole world" and real, Non-violent Muslims will AGREE that Islam, in its current state and practice, can no longer be tolerated.
Its either it is wiped-out (with its ignorant and rabid fanatics), ......or it Re-Invents itself (Change) .... or it subdues and impose terror on everyone else.
It is one of the reason no one wants an Islamic State to own a Nuclear bomb (and those that have something close to it are under 'strict' management) .... despite the fact that l personally believe everyone should be treated equally.

Which one will come first, is a matter of debate.


Lastpage!

A zillion likes for your post


But how many of them are willing to accept this fact and when will their messiah come?

oliidell:
Respect has nothing to do with religious studies & 'dirty truths'. It is about showing regard for others even in the face of differences. I know this is a faceless forum but it's not too much for anyone to show some self esteem or rather 'moniker esteem' by avoiding the use of inciting invectives targeted at a particular religion or tribe. You don't need to teach anybody the Qur'an. It is accesible in both hard and soft copies for anyone to pick up and study & I don't need my doubts cleared cos I have absolutely no convictions about the religion. I'm christian through and through but I have lots of good and decent friends practicing other religions and I'll stand up for them anyday. Christ never asked us to abuse, judge or condemn anybody, He said we should tolerate and pray for our separated brethen. You need to do a thorough self assessment and pls don't quote me again.

Sorry if I mistake you for your words but look my friend ..


How many times have you killed for Christ or many times have bible told you to kill the unbelievers?

All I say is that, if Islam is ready to be peaceful, they will revisit the Qur'an and the religion and change the teaching of hate...

Every 3years old in Afgan want to kill every Jewish person ... It's in their school syllables..

The world will be a better place if we all revisit our religion and mend it

lastpage:
You couldn't have said it better!

They pick and chose when to be a "fanatical Muslim"!
They can watch Female football, eat food prepared by a female, phuck a female (even when not married as most of their Alfa who impregnate those underage Quranic school pupils), wear clothes sewn by a female, sit side-by-side with a female is a Bus/Train/Plane, treat and get treated by Doctors of the opposite gender (instead of refusing and preferring to die, ....like Jehovah's witnesses who at the least, put their money where their mouth is), get driven by Female Pilots, get served by female Hostesses, e.t.c

Looking any Muslim supporting this charade, ignorance and hypocrisy on the basis of Religion, is just an ignorant fanatic.


Lastpage!

My brother don't mind them.... I know them in and out because I had Islamic studies though the support of the IDF Israel.. After studying in Medina and return to Jerusalem to have another side of the study.... I came to understand that Islam is the same be you Sunni or Shea.... Provided you read the Quran ... You only think better as an Islam when you have civilization... That's why the UAE act a little different.... Buhari is no different but he is beginning to embrace the things that must exist ...

They hate the west a d their technology yet they have the shameless got to use the internet... They could remain to the dark age .. I maintain .. If Nigeria did not have the fellows from the north .. We could have been far ahead of south Africa in everything.. they keep setting us backwards

Ramanto:
You are funny sir. Killings of inocent souls are fobidden in Islam.I'm surprised u didn't know all this while.

TAAAA sharap.... Who said so.... Am ready for all of you fools today.... There are more than 190 verses of the Qur'an that direct Islams to kill at will.... Like I told you before in my post .... I made it clear that you should say what will lead us into islamic study in this thread and now you have pushed me ....

I only can understand that you go to the mosque and sit down while the Imam fill your head with lies from the religion of war.

EVERYONE ON THIS THREAD SHOULD SEE SOME FEW VERSES WHERE THEIR RELIGION OF WAR SPEAK ABOUT KILLING.....

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...

but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.



Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."



Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.



Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."



Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').



Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.



Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"



Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."



Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle). According to the verse, Allah will allow the disabled into Paradise, but will provide a larger reward to those who are able to kill others in his cause.



Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?



Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"



Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.



Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."



Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."



Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."



Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."



Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."



Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."



Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.



Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.



Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.



Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.




Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"



Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.



Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).




Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.



Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."




Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." How does the Quran define a true believer?



Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."



Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).


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Ramanto:
Handshaking doesn't add any value. They could always exchange pleasantries verbally. Like me now I simply tell those ladies on the campus that I'm sorry I don't shake hands with the opposite sex and they'v all come to reason with me.GBM can as well be known with that

You could have as well reject lectures from female lecturers or better still reject going to western school since you have school of Islamic studies... Do you know the problem with you guys called Muslims ... You lack vision and as well has no common sense