₦airaland Forum

bestspoke:
Yes you are right...

Jesus died for our SINS...the wrath of adam and eve's sin was washed away through the water of baptism.

Your quote is right too...but As a Christian, referring myself as a sinner is not pointing to the fact that I am wallowing in sin..
The world we live today is a sinful one , where a single thought against that man that splashed water on your nice cloth on your way to work has transpired into sin, you don't even know if some of your daily actions have transpired into sin against God.Some Christians even after trying their best to keep away from sin all their lives will get to heaven and receive the shock of their mortal life.

It is better to keep seeking God's mercy for sins known and unknown than sit back and keep deceiving oneself that because you are a Christian you are completely righteous in the sight of God and nothing will ever lead you to sin, sinning is not limited to lying ,killing ,stealing,fornication etc.
As for me I will keep seeking God's mercy all the days of my life.

May God help us all

Amen. You also made a point. Mercy is good which i can never disprove. But a Christian should live a Holy and righteous life. That is when you will make God happy.

He said be you perfect as your heavenly father is perfect. We Christian should strive toward perfection. And it is very very possible by his grace.

Note. His grace is like a motor gear, and accelerator in the car. We must use it to fire the vehicle to move faster. The purpose of grace is not to make us to sin continuously but to help us to live a righteous life.

Now look at in the case of this topic. Human will always be human anywhere any day. If i saw a prostitute may be we use to meet in a sight, but eventually saw her in my street preaching, hmm believe me i will first of all be shocked and shake my head. And can never take her words serious.

You see why, as a Christian it is eminent for us to live a holy and righteous life always.

Matthew 5; 16. Let ur light so shine that people should see ur good works and give glory to God. Somebody must testify about you. I used the word must. God will help us in this journey. Have a nice Sunday.

Dongreat:
I said it and will keep saying it " God has nothing to do with politics". While God plan is for every soul to be saved and influenced by the Holy Spirit, Politics aims at saving just a few of same philosophy and greatly controlled by men.
There are certain things that will make me to dislike any prophet and getting involved in politics is one of them. Teach your members the Christ way, "To Be Like Christ", and leave politics for politicians. "Give to Caesar what belongs to him and to God what belongs to him"
And to be sincere to ourselves, Christians, if Hillary had won it's no prophesy but, clever prediction. The man who saw the fall of the "twin tower" is what I called true prophesy.

Ps: TB J has gave corrected prophesy before but this one is certainly wrong and very controversial.

In the first place, why must God proffered trump over Hillary? Does it mean that trump is now a saint? I don't get it. Like you rightly said, which i myself also believed. What business does God have with politics? He is even using nineveh as an example, so those who belong to the democratic party, i mean Hillary party, do they not also prayed that God should make Hillary to win?
2 is Hillary Clinton now a devil that American chooses to pray against her? Hmmm

you see, they used to say that you will needs ninety nine lies to cover up one lie. This is the case of prophet Tb Joshua. I also respect him so much but the best thing he need to do now is to keep quiet, and close his mouth over this issue.


Hmm they says nomather how many kilometers lies travels, truth will always catch up with him withen a minute.

So there is no need to worry so much, by their fruits we shall continue to know them.
We actually shares the same insight. God bless you.

EmmaOgbu:
Thank God is Trump

Hmmm base on the example he gave now using nineveh, hmm is Hillary Clinton now a Devil? Am just asking? And why would God changed the prophesy? Is Donald trump now a messiah? I think prophet TB Joshua is not telling the truth. Or something has gone wrong somewhere.

CXLVII:
Who is not a sinner on Earth? That should be the first question?


Who is not a sinner?

We were sinners before, but when Christ came some of us were redeemed and our sins were paid for. So those who now acknowledge Jesus as the personal Lord and saviour are nolonger a sinner. Do you get it?


Now listen a Christian is not a sinner and a sinner is not a Christian..

Note. This teaching is very deep, you can Pim me and lets talk about it.

Thank you.

firstking01:
How can a sinner go and preach to a fellow sinner to repent??, i mean what will he tell the person...a sinner should first of all evangelise himself.

Hmmm you that's why it is good for a Christian to depart from sin. Yes it do happens. But such individual will go to a distance place to do his evangelism. Because men will always judge you by who you are.

MNDY:
OK! Stand there because you are just a passenger! Guy, na Naija we dey ooo, anything can happen here! The car owner fit just come focus on you like say na you be the Keke driver!

Na you dey answer ram, make him they dia dey ask question. He go pay for market wey he no buy.


Very funny story, i must tell you.

Kingsley1000:
the rover man don automatically own a keke

Wetin he won takam do? Do you know how much that Jeep worth? No be moi moi o. We all know this story is not true, but it is damn too funny. Atleast it is good for this Sunday morning.

Damfostopper:
and how is this News?.... it happens everyday..... mods n stewpidity

I think i disagreed with you, yes this news might not be true, atleast it relieves this Sunday stress.

Very funny.

engrjosefz:
Werin concern d passengers

Hmm that's what makes it hilarious. It is very funny if you ask me.

abbas99:
The man will b like........

you too dey funny. You mean he uses his last card to buy the Jeep? Hmmmmm

dienlmods:
Na only you waka come...even your fellow zombies sees you as an outcast. ..everybody in NL hates you...

Though you don't say much or say over bad things, but everybody knows you are so irritating. .. and people hate you for that

Lol

dienlmods:
Na only you waka come...even your fellow zombies sees you as an outcast. ..everybody in NL hates you...

Though you don't say much or say over bad things, but everybody knows you are so irritating. .. and people hate you for that

Lol..

dienlmods:
Na only you waka come...even your fellow zombies sees you as an outcast. ..everybody in NL hates you...

Though you don't say much or say over bad things, but everybody knows you are so irritating. .. and people hate you for that

Lol

dienlmods:
Na only you waka come...even your fellow zombies sees you as an outcast. ..everybody in NL hates you...

Though you don't say much or say over bad things, but everybody knows you are so irritating. .. and people hate you for that

Lol.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



It is not your place to ask such a question.

It is your duty to BE such a Christian.

Go to my PROFILE.

LOOK at my POSTS and my TOPICS.

MY Doctrine, and MINE ALONE, will produce PERFECT CHRISTIANS, bearing ALL THE FRUITS.

But nobody wants to KNOW.

On FACEBOOK, I was the TOASTER of ATHEISTS.

I do not mean that I serenaded them with "Sweet Nothings." I mean that I seized them by the scruffs of their necks, and thrust their faces into HELL FIRE, until they were "WELL-TOASTED."

I received the Left Boot of Fellowship from several "ATHEIST VERSUS CHRISTIANITY" Debate Groups, because nobody could debate ME.

There is the trick I first saw on YAHOO! ANSWERS, where they QUARANTINE your post.

You think you are reaching THOUSANDS of people- actually it is just a FEW guys!

In FACEBOOK you have groups of over 5,000 members- and it is always the SAME 20 GUYS heckling you?

I started deleting those useless friends and groups, to start over. They suddenly seized my account, and demanded my ID.

I gave them my ID, they then said that they would NEVER reinstate my account again- and trumped up a list of TOTALLY-FALSE allegations to justify seizing all my data!

This is the sort of immorality you expect from ATHEISTS.

However, NOT ONE CHRISTIAN ever stood by me, nor supported my ministry.

How is it POSSIBLE to be a ENEMY of TWO ENEMIES?

I have seen people RATHER DIE than implement THE ONLY SOLUTION- because it came from ME. All their "FRIENDS" were LYING to them: I TOLD THEM RHE TRUTH.

They listened to the people with SUITS and FLATTERIES, and BIG BIBLES- and it just got them DEAD.

Now I need to take my own advice:

If I accept DIVINE HEALING, I will have to CONTINUE at a Higher Anointing Level I refused before, because THAT WILL BEGIN THE REAL WAR.

A War which, at this rate, ONLY I would SURVIVE.

I preferred Death and Hell to being the TRIGGER to all that.

If there were MORE like ME- with the same Knowledge, WE COULD CONTAIN THE ENEMY.

Thank you so much, the Lord is your strength. Are you on whatsap? If yes, pls send it on this Email on gnwaneri@ymail.com. Lets do something.

naijadeyhia:
OP on another thread you created I adviced all Christians to desist from responding to you or your comments and I will do same here.

when a confused individual decides to open a thread about ones beliefs and begins by comparing it with all sorts of nonsense like he is all wise and all knowing it reeks of absurdity.

I WISH TO ENCOURAGE MY BRETHREN TO KINDLY IGNORE THIS GUY AND HIS THREADS FROM NOW HENCEFORTH. HE DOES NOT WISH TO KNOW THE TRUTH NEITHER DOES HE WISH TO LISTEN. ALL HE WANTS IS AN OBJECT OF RIDICULE.

YOU MAY BE ITCHING TO RESPOND TO HIS COMMENTS BUT LISTEN TO THE WORD OF GOD. HE SAYS ANYONE WHO CAN BRING HIS TONGUE UNDER CONTROL HAS TAKEN CONTROL OF THE WHOLE BODY...

REFRAIN FROM HONOURING HIM WITH ANY FORM OF RESPONSE.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL AS YOU ADHERE.

Am also a Christian.


But there is an elements of truth in what he was saying, and it was you people that make atheist to talk to God any how. Here he raised a point why don't you disprove it, rather than attacking him. Did you realizes that most of the points he raises was actually the character of Jesus. He loves people and a very compassionate person. But today Christians were only after theirselves and which was the very point he made. Did you realized that todays Christians are very very selfish. After they have paid their tithes and offering. To your own tents oh Israel.

Now listen am a security officer, i have worked and have been posted to different locations but this year i was posted to a church at somewhere in Lagos. And this my first Time to work with so called men of God, hmmm God is my witness in what am saying, this people are stingy, wicked, selfish sets of people i have ever worked with in my entire life.

Believe me if not that i was born in a Christian family, tested and also experienced Christ in my life before, and also reads the bible myself, hmmm believe me, i would have become an atheist long ago.

Dare2Try:
Abeg who has Alibaba phone number, Buhari is now a comedian and I think Alibaba should help buhari career by recruiting him, buhari belongs to the comedy industry and the other room in Daura not presidency villa

My brother you just said my mind. I just quoted someone just now exactly what you just said.

Buhari is a very funny person, he talks like a comedian. Quote me anywhere. I have been laughing since i saw this thread.

totorimi:
Just imagine, in his own eyes he feels he is the best president we ever had O, intead of him to apologise to Nigerians for misleading them and resign honorably he is still there blaming people, cant he just confront the problems and deal with the issue rather than all these blame games and yet he is not doing anything or achieving anything. Just look at how the country has become since he took over power. No practical approach to dealing with these issues. No short, mid or long term plans to deal with these problems just gallivanting up and down and using a shambolic anti corruption war to waste our precious time.

Am speechless.

The way he even took enough time in appointing his cabinet members, we actually thought he has something upstairs.

Two years is fast approaching.

Buhari is very funny, he talks like a comedian.

kinibigdeal:
That means Ameachi, Oshiomole, Kyari, Burattai, Tinubu etc are seriously fighting you. What an hypocritical excuses in an exasperated manner

Hmmm why do you includes oshiomole in your list?

policy12:
Before nko with which money you wan make them fight you?

lol.. My brother i have been laughing here since. So they will just sit down and watch him floging their assess. Hmmm..

obstead200:
this is not a testimony. it is more like boasting to me.
Most people reading this thread are either job seekers or people looking for better jobs. Your story would have helped them if u could be more specific by explaining why u lost 2 jobs in a year and what u did right to get this present job. It will help them understand how to get jobs and how to keep such jobs.

God bless you sir.

You see most of the testimonies you heard this days, are just for mere formalities, and show up.

In the first place you said it is a six figure job. Six figure could mean anything. 100,000 is also a six future Job.

2 you do lay off every one month intervals and you never explain what happens. Can you see? so how much exactly do you earns?


And you also made us to understands that you re not a fan of testimony, and that you only wanted to encourage people here. It definitely means you did not even appreciate it in the first place. Sir i quit agreed with you, and there is a tendency that this man does not mean what he was saying and could only be a frame up.

Thank you.

gurunlocker:
Recession na bad thing o.... From. Bag of Rice.... to Akara, now it's ordinary Bread....

Next election will be stew or pure water...

Hmm am very sure, they will even struggle and fight to collect the bread from them. I mean it, it is that bad.

NOETHNICITY:
I'm battling to deduce u here sir.

What makes you think that trump can not come to Nigeria?

Am just asking, no offends.

ionsman:
There's this popular saying that Kwale weed has no rival.

On Nairaland, I knew about Oshogbo weed.

But from recent happenings, the weed from the east has no rival. I have never seen the series of delusions that emanates from that region in my entire life...

IPOB kwenu!!!

You can't disprove a thing until it come to pass. Now what makes you think it is not possible for trump to come to nigeria? By the way he is still an elected president, and has not been sworned in. He still have the right to move about as ordinary man. Where you will have problem is, if he has been sworned in as the president of America.

By the way who believe that trump will beats Hillary in that very election?

Pls never say never. Good morning.

justmenoni:
They'll start coming for you now, i hope seun can ban their advertisement here on nairaland... 26 people die as a result of nospecto alone.

I know they will come after me for sure. I have already created a thread regard this, and i knows how they responded.

All were just saying it is none of my business if they were scamed or not. Yes i know the current situation of the country also contributed to it.

That incident make the CBN to give that condition of 25 billion capital you must put in place before they could give you a licence to operate. Should incase anything happens, they will know how to sort it out, and balance the affected customers.

This people so called MMM does not even have any physical address neither do they have any central account. So how do you go about them, should incase any inventuality occurs.

So federal government have every reasons to warned people of their activities, despite the fact that they are not even registerd.

Good morning.

DropShot:
Good job by the House.

Those of you old enough will recall that many Nigerians were defrauded in similar fashion in 2006/2007 through such investment with Real and Cool, Wealth Solution, etc. The return was even more fantastic than this. Many people lost huge money and some later committed suicide.

It mustn't happen again in Nigeria. A word is enough for the wise.

When i read your post, i decided to log in, just to back up your claim.

Yes, one landlord leaving in our estate at mangoro, onipetes ikeja. Was also a victim then with that evil bank. Their own was even100 percent profit. If you save 1,000 you will be given 1,000 back and ur money will still be intact. If you save 1 million they will give you 1 million making 2 million. In these way they have alots of customers.

That man in question been an old man, i don't want to mention his name, deposited 5 million and the bubble burst. He died a week after. People rush to their banks and only met few cars on ground, and how many people is going to share them. I personally know one of their bank at pencinema Lagos.

Like you rightly said, a word is anough for the wise.

b

..

I have heard many christian leaders teach the rapture could happen at any moment including right now. that sounds great, but it over looks the scriptures telling of other events that must happen first. until those things happen the rapture can not take place. regardless of what our pastors or anyone says about it, we must rely on the scriptures as the final authority.



God's promise to deliver us


Just mentioning anything that must happen before the rapture finally takes off for some people they have been thought the rapture will deliver them out of here before anything bad happens. so before listing the ten things that must happen before the rapture. i want to acknowledge God's promises to deliver believers from the wrath to come. [1 thessalonians 1:1o and Revelations 3:10] and from the hour of testing that is coming.


Because you have kept the of my perseverance, i will also keep you from the hour testing. that hour which is about to come upon the whole world to test those who dwell on the earth. hello, this hour can not be after rapture. lets go on. Rev 3:10.

so we can take comfort in knowing God will surely keeps his promise. His wrath will be poured out on the earth but not on his people. that is really great news, wow. all the unrepentant sinners will mourn when they see the sign of the son of man in the sky. [ mathew 24;30] because they will know it means they are doomed but believers will not be here to mourn with them. God's people will be rescued in the rapture.

As awesome as these promises they do not mean God's people will not endure any trouble in the world because there is a difference between the wrath of God and the wrath of man. God has promised to deliver us from his wrath but has not promised to deliver us from man's wrath. in fact he promised the world would hate us, persecute us, and even kill us. Jesus said we would be hated because of his name [mark 13:13] at that time many will fall away and betrays one another and hate one another. this time can never be after rapture. [mathew 24: 9-10] ok. lets quickly looks into the ten things that must happen before rapture.


1 The first six seals must be broken

A great way to locate the timing of the rapture is by studying the breaking of the first six seals in revelation 6 the apostle John saw great trouble released by the breaking of each of the five seals. Jesus saw the same events occurring in the same sequence Matthew 24. both john and Jesus saw a time of trouble coming in the last days.that would include wars, famines, earthquakes, and the rise of false messiahs.[mathew 24: 4-9]

Both John and Jesus saw the rise of the antichrist during this time of trouble. since there is only one antichrist we can conclude they both saw the same events during the same period.

John saw a rider on a white horse receives a crown after the first seal is broken. The white horse is a symbol of conquest, but also represents a counterfeit of the messiah who promised to return ridding on a white horse. This false messiah is the antichrist. After receiving his first crown he begins using his crown to gain more crowns [Rev 6 1-2] This marks the beginning of his rise to power and the beginning of the season of birth pangs.

Jesus saw the the antichrist entering the temple and standing in the Holy place, which is what the prophet Daniel called the abomination that brings desolation [mathew 24:15] this arrogant action marks the beginning of the end for the antichrist. The cup of the wrath of is full and about to be poured out. both John and Jesus saw another event that only happens one time in all of history. They describes it with so many details , they must have seen the same thing. here is what John saw released after the sixth seal is broken [Revelation 6 12:-17]


There was a great earthquake
The sun became black.
The moon became like blood.
The stars of the sky fell to the earth like a fig tree shaken by the wind.
The sky is split apart like a scroll when it rolled up.
Every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
The people of the earth hid themselves and sought to die because they were dreading the coming wrath of God.

Now compare that to what Jesus saw happening immediately after the tribulation, after the birth pangs. [ matthew 24 :29-30]

The sun will be darken.
The moon will not give its light.
The star will fall from the sky.
The powers of the heavens will be shaken.
The sign of the son of man will appear in the sky.
All the people of the earth will mourn after seeing the sign of the son of man in the sky.


Both passages describes the same events in which the sun will be darkened and turned black, the moon becomes like blood so that it does give its light, the stars of the sky fall to the earth, the powers of the heavens are shaken as the sky is split apart and the sign of the son of man appears in the sky and the people of the earth mourn and hid themselves because they dread the coming wrath of God. surely it would be a sign of something very big happening in heaven. Since nothing like this ever happen before.

Mathew 24 29-31] we can now locate the timing of the rapture because in both passages it is very next thing that happens and revelation 7 9-17] you can read what Jesus said

John testimony reveals the same timing of the rapture. Right after the sixth seal is broken. John saw a great a multitudes which no one could count from every nations and all tribes and peoples and tongues standing before the throne of God [ Rev 7:9]

Then the elder explained to him these people came out of the great tribulation where they had endured hunger, thirsty,exposure to the elements and tears. He assured John they will not have to endure those thing any more..


The things suffered by these people including, hunger, thirsty, and the rest. during the great tribulation period because the antichrist system will prevent anyone from buying or selling unless they have taken the mark of the beast [Rev 13:17] and because there will be wars, which are known to cause famines. we also know the antichrist will "wearing out the saints" [Daniel 7:25]....

ki02020:
Shior...DONALD TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT Jare

Hmmm but that guy presidency will not favour Nigeria. Don't you think so?

shadeyinka:
Thanks my Bro!
Unfortunately, there would be more real evidence against the reality of God then. The delusion will be so strong that for several it will be a normal thing to do.

Those who refuse the mark will certainly pay a very high price. Hunted down like animals, made restituted and betrayed by their closest pal.

The best is not to be around then.

But if anyone be left behind:
DO NOT TAKE THE MARK!

IF YOU DO, YOU JUST SEALED YOUR FATE TO ETERNAL PAIN AND ANGUISH

Good morning sir.

Hmm my bros, this thing we were saying as if we were playing is a very serious issue. Unfortunately many do not take it to heart.

If anybody left behind, hmm it means he is going to pay with his blood. Because life then will be very miserable. 1 it means God has rejected you. 2 you don't even belong to Satan since you don't have the seal. Now you have only two uptions. Receive the mark or pay with your blood.

To worsen the matter, the death himself will be tire of killing then, and said pls allow me to rest. So you see that it is not even easy paying with one blood. You will see a moving train and intentionally jump into it, yet the train will just hit you, but you will not still die, but will be in a serious pain. It is going to be as bad as that. It is better the person were not born than to face that period. At the same time that man of beast will be the one ruling then, and he will explore his full strength. That is when you will know that Satan is wicked. But right now we are enjoying the grace of Jesus. But then there will be no more grace, faith, or prayer. Your enemy will be left with Satan and his wicked government.


Have you realizes how the world is uniting these days, OA.U, un. Name it. By then the world might have united together and will decided to use one currency. That is the trick there, when you see these people trying to unite, you don't know it will lead to something at the end of the day, am only pitying the Christians that have falls along with them. What a pity.

If anybody thinks we were joking that is there own business.

shadeyinka:
You know what!
I actually felt the emotion behind your post. You gave a stern warning that the mark of the beast would come subtly and gradually that when the real thing come, people would have been so used to the idea.

Who could believe 20 years ago so that information would expload so much that almost every adult and teenagers in the world will have as smart phone with the power more than the mainframe computers in the 80's.

We have advanced so much that the possibility of tagging every human on earth with an id.

Unfortunately too, because iniquity shall abound, the love of many Christians will grow cold.

Let's not sleep as others do.

You know the worst part of it is that, some individual will surely come as the men of God, and will indirectly works for Satan in achieving it faster. But by their fruit you shall know them.

Men should be very careful where they worships this days.