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Tosyn007:
Arguing with someone who doesn't know what he's talking about is actually a sign of insecurity on your end. I can also tell you that you've not been around long enough, cos then you won't have the space to bring up One Piece when the thread burns up 10 pages daily with arguments and debates that some people were scared the thread would catch fire lol.


Why have your arguments been abysmal? Because they ain't originally yours, you just followed up on suggestions made by others and because they align with your sentiments you believe they are true forgetting that these people also are humans using same thinking faculty as yours, why would you accept their suggestions as the final verdict?


Some sets of people believe Naruto is boss just like you believe One Piece is boss, some don't even bother to place one over the other, they just enjoy them. I have 2 friends who follow both stories ardently, one even gave 40.4Gb( over 600 episodes) of One Piece. There are some who'll even criticise Naruto in their dream but they won't accept that any other story betters Naruto. That's just the way it is. I like Naruto because of its complexity, it grants you the freedom to think up possibilities for yourself following the laid down principles of the story. What you see as inconsistencies are simply puzzles that need solving, but then if you're able to think up something for youself, you might discover an inconsistency that I might not have a suitable answer for, but then I'll definitely give you an explanation. Believe that!

Lol. Like I said, twas later I found out they've not even seen the OP series. So make a better come back.

My arguments have been absymal?? Lol. Actually that's what yours have been bro. Lemme ask you, why do you know that oxygen is in the air? Cos scientists have proved it and you've felt its effects. Arguing against that makes you absymal.
Or maybe you don't know what Shounen Jump is...then I can't help you out. I've given you facts with proven evidences, but all you can do is beating about the bush.

Naruto was never complex, at least to me. Anyone who was in Naruto 2go room way back when the room started knows that nothing passes me by. What you're calling complex now in this war arc is simply poor story writing on Kishi's part which you may not wanna accept though. Unknown to you, to the more you think you're explaining, the more it loses the little sense left. This is same guy that got too lazy to correct drawing mistakes which Jump noticed from the free scans and made them release those mistakes in the takoboon volumes.

I don't 'think' One Piece is boss, my favorite series is Kingdom and its more fascinating to me.
But fact is that OP is boss....that's why just 1volume of it will sell more than 5 volumes of the 2nd placed series and it has been the 1st for 8 years running and still currently leading for this year.

Tosyn007:
You're failling to understand one fundamental truth, no matter how much you try to blacklist something, there'll always be people who like that particular thing. Nobody claims Naruto is perfect, its definitely going to raise questions cos we all see things from different countless angles. So then there's way you can convince me that your treasured manga is perfect too. As you're criticizing Naruto here, I'm sure there are others criticizing One Piece in its own thread(wherever its located). Even you can't claim you've been consistent in all your statements.


I have a friend who ardently follows both stories, he sits down behind his system streaming them on YouTube and I've never heard him speak ill of either stories. So the earlier you learn to accept other people sentiments, the better for mankind.

Lol, I actually know about people who like shit, but they simply accept it as shit and move on with it, that's all. Most of the critics i wrote about Naruto on this thread weren't even my own opinions on the story but rather consensual facts conceived both from the publishers and die hard fans, some of who are still fans till now. Shounen Jump themselves said Naruto story was at its best by Pain arc.
And if you were careful enough to notice, I have been around this thread for awhile without making those negatives, till someone here, who I later found haven't even watched OP well, started talking nonsense about what he knew little about, acting as if Naruto was better while OP is clearly its boss.
It doesn't matter if a little group also tries to criticize OP, story wise it has only 3 very minor inconsistency which doesn't interrupt the flow, and others one can say is, poor art or slow pace both of which the author has calm responses to which is another big difference between Oda and Kishimoto, 1 defends his art and responds to fans, the other 'let them think what they want'...

rapmike:
Those criticizing Naruto should go and write their own instead of sounding like some bad-mouthed people (lolz).

Now to the war arc, I saw little wrong in it, until whatever it was decided to stretch it with Madara canceling out Edo Tensi. As much as that was badass, it gave way to a lot of inconsistencies in the manga. TvTokyo or whoever is responsible for the anime did not help issues with the useless fillers. By the time Madara had acquired the rinnegan, Kishi was on the mixture of cocaine and heroin and Indian Hemp( guessing) and Naruto lost its screenplay ( to me, that's where it ended not after the Pain arc).

And yes, I agree with you that Kaguya was a crybaby villain. In my opinion, she is the worst villain in any movie,cartoon or TV series I have seen so far. A total letdown

Actually, when I said Naruto ended in pain arc, I didn't mean that it totally lost its flavour then....but every other thing done after it were preparations to pave way to the war arc, then the fans were expecting it to be big. But just as you said, midway into the war, from Madara's appearance, a lot of inconsistencies came in and it kept getting worse. So if the war arc failed that much, then the build up to it is almost not appreciated again falling all back to the Pain arc.

Action wise, it was still good even with all those stuff. I still enjoyed seeing Madara kicking everybody around and how Kaguya toyed with the boys then. I also partly the final fight.
But honestly it failed too bad story wise. Twas obvious Kishi was gambling with options and even his drawings showed inconsistencies.

Lol, I've been laughing at one comedy happening here. 1 guy thinks he's boss...then the other 2 with no actual sense of their own, chants him on even when he's not really making sense.
Its allowed shaa.

Hmmmm. For some reasons the scanlators are having a delay in bringing out the chapters. 446 and 447 are out already. Should I post the full summary of 446 and hints on 447. Am I permitted or not.

http://www.mymangaonline.com/manga-info/One-Piece-Omake.html

Read for the laughs.

While I won't actually place Riboku and Shouheikun in any particular order yet, but don't underestimate him.
In raw strength, he's on par with Moubou, and consider what Moubou did during the Zhao war that Ouki died.
In strategy, he's on par with Riboku, we've seen him cooking up strategies to be used against enemies while he's not even in the battlefield.
That guy's a monster.

Lol....Mutaino, just as I thought, you can't read well.

Tosyno my definition of nonsense is Naruto writing during the war arc. 2008 I saw Naruto series, though it lacked character development, it had consistency. During the war arc, it started losing its consistency. Discussions on naruto site changed to questions, plot holes and debates which had various ideas but none correct....2013 I decided to see what OP looked like since twas rated the best, came across Kingdom and Death Note too.....compared to this 3 series, Naruto war arc, is nonsense..... Hope you heard Tosyno.
I immediately stopped reading Naruto so I'll have time for my final exams (during which I was still reading OP). I only took a week to read through after it had finished and went to see endless debates on narutobase due to the crap writing. So technically, I stopped 2 years ago, I only wanted to see how it ended and saw a crybaby villain and an unnecessary fight between Naruto and Sasuke.

You can try well to cover it up but its still evident that Kishi lost it, apart from the inconsistent writing even his drawings during the war arc had more mistakes than the rest of Naruto put together.

pasqal09:
Houken?

He's not exactly on same level as the generals I mentioned. I see him as that streets spoilt bully who likes to pick fights.

Yeah, Mouten isn't that serious about the Great General stuff. Ouhon and Shin will definitely get to it. Actually I can't really see Kanki fitting into the whole Great General stuff. He's a monster alright but his personality issues is something that disagrees with Sei's path. Wait till you see what his men looks like. They're hideous monsters.

My strongest are Renpa, Ouki, Tou, ShouHeiKun, Riboku.

landinfo:
All of una dey craze ooo....so una don run leave me ba, no worry I go sin catch up to una well well

Run fast.

Lol. Yeah. There have been many silent build ups way back that later on became big. Jimbe too was mentioned even before we met Arlong, whoever knew Jimbe will save Luffy then. Recently when we saw Sabo with crows, that was when ppl noticed that a crow user have once been shown in the Revs way back.

I'll say that Ceaser was only hyping himself. The only Yonko he's linked to is Kaido through Doflamingo. Big Mam has been looking to torture him for fraud and there's no known activity linking him to BB or Shanks.

As for Aokiji, I'll say, I believe he's still a good guy.

pasqal09:
i was expecting some romance between her and sei but it didn't happen. i would have been perfect cos they'll make a good match

It could still happen. This is just halfway.

Just noticed that in the last episode, when Zoro was pursuing Pica, Orlumbus said that if twas out on sea, he would've supported Zoro with his Yonta Maria fleet. By this time no one would've guessed that it was some big awesome ship at all. I like the way Oda ships in things little and then make it big.

Tosyn007:
Dude, you already exhausted you medulla, let the ones who can still think handle things from here.
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Lol....more like preserving my brain for better things ahead rather than past nonsense.

Forget the reasons. It has no possible reason. Kishi got high, that's all there is to it.

General ChouSou and the mountain people.

Honestly the coalition war was just too much. Dunno how many times I've read it through and through, every single moment from the sudden invasion to Kankoku pass till the battle at Sai, they were dope enough.

I wish for a battle were Riboku and Shouheikun will be enemy generals.

Yo...more Kingdom fans. Kingdom is captivating alright. And Shin is another total idiot like Luffy (though not up to Luffy). A conversation...
Yontanwa: why do you want to help this ragged king? Is it out of loyalty or what?
Shin: Loyalty? Why d hell will I have something like that? ...........
Oda actually once stated that Kingdom is one of his favorite mangas though.

And yep, we're yet to see Tou in action. His experience makes him a mix of both strategy and instincts and according to GouHouMei, he's a perfect General. Also Ouki said Tou is not below him in abilities, so he's on par with Ouki and Renpa.

Oh well, there's really no need for this back and forth talks. Its surprising to me that I could still vividly remember some of this things after 2 years of not touching this manga....maybe because I participated in such long discussions and often times debates and at the end, many ppl saying different things and then it doesn't make sense.
Well written stories like Death Note or OP, simple straight to the point stories like Kingdom, none will require all this to understand what's happening in it. Readers, fans, publishers and the author himself knows that the story lost its flow.
Interview during a Shounen Jump Festival
Fans everywhere can see that Madara is the strongest right now, how do you plan on defeating him??
Hmmm, Madara is a monster and have the perfect defence and attacks, and because he's complete honestly even I don't know how to defeat him. I'm just trying out a few options.
Statement of a Lost Author.

Yeah I know that its different, and I pointed out why it is.....read my post again.
As an ordinary floating chakra, he couldn't do anything or appear to anyone...
But cos Naruto and Sasuke had access to some chakra that directly relates to him, he could manifest to them.
But when the 3 elements mixed perfectly together in Madara, he could then manifest physically to everyone through there.

pasqal09:
Yeah i know.

Anyway, do u have an idea of any other interesting mangas worth reading?

Well, I currently follow only One Piece and Kingdom....but I think Code Gease, Attack on the Titans, 7 deadly sins and maybe a few others.

pasqal09:
Kyou Kai
renpa
Ouki
Shin

The manga is cool but i prefer the video series
I actually started watching it since 2014 but the site where i download them closed down.

Huh, wow. 1st person I saw preferring the anime. Well, the anime raised a lot of criticism and they had to stop it totally. If it'll air again, they might have to redo it from the top and fill in all those spaces they left out. It stopped airing early last year at season 2.

pasqal09:
Finally got to chapter 445. Is kanki trying to set the Hi Shin unit up?

Lol. Congrats. Considering how Kanki works, it seems like. But I won't really say its a set up. He wanted them to capture the middle hill and they just screwed up big time. But that's just the 1st step in Kanki's plan, we'll get to see what he has in mind. With time. Kingdom events is really unpredictable.

What are ur favorite moments and characters.

Lol. See these guys posting manga pages and not understanding what message its passing.
Maybe you failed to understand when he mentioned the mix of kyuubi, Indra and asura chakra mixing up.
All the time as floating chakra, could he do anything or manifest to anyone NOPE, he couldn't.
The only reason SO6P could manifest is that he left fragments of his chakra in these 3 things. And because they were fragments he could only manifest inside them. Naruto as kyuubi jin and asura, Sasuke as Indra and he even got asura chakra again... But after the perfect mix up in Madara, he could come out physically. And whatever he did to make sure of that was before he died. Obito's show is different, with no connection to Kakashi, suddenly appearing inside Kakashi, nonsense.

And who's this 1 saying Byakugan is a normal eye in Naruto Lol. Something that was once introduced and hyped, then later rendered almost useless...even Kaguya's own was useless. And is it not the same Kishi that made someone to recently awake byakugan....Lol.

And did you just say no bijuu was in Naruto when he met the sage? Minato gave him the yin chakra and obito gave him other bijuu chakra. Naruto had all the bijuu chakra complete within him by the time he met the sage..

Lol...did the inference I made make you crazy...perharps you're one of those that think that.
If y'all knew its just information then no need to bash other series as if Naruto is all there is because that's where all this started.

Why harping on the SO6P stuff...isn't it clear that he left fragments of his chakra in the kyuubi and also his children offsprings had it, and thats all before he died. That's why Naruto could meet him at almost the point of death through the kyuubi, same with Sasuke through the Senju cells. He also said he's been watching everything through generations while his chakra has remained.

Now Kaguya ate the fruit, and became the 1st human to possess the powers, after her, every other thing started passing down as bloodline limits. The Hyuuga are born with their byakugan, it wasn't a chakra effect, its just the eyes. That's why Ao could still comfortably use it. Same goes for the sharingan, but because the sharingan was sealed down sometime, it then required processes to unlock the powers. Kakashi who is not an Uchiha by any means, was still able to unlock the MS..the power of the sharingan, lies in the eyes, not the type of chakra you have. To upgrade from MS to EMS, you simply take the eyes and plug into another (Though me no gbadu how 2 eyes go dey inside 1 eye socket)....whatever special thing required is already inside the eye.

If am to jungle them all up.

Kingdom.
Lord of the Rings
One Piece.
Legend of the Seeker.
Pirates of the Caribbean.

pasqal09:
So Sei has 2 kids? Who gave birth to the prince for him?

Her name is not known for now. But she's just one of the palace girls, no mutual attachments.

Lol. I went out yesterday with a cousin friend and we came across some people discussing Naruto, after passing we started our own Naruto talks....Kakashi's mother na Uchiha, Minato na the strongest ninja but Pain bad shaa, Naruto the best cartoon...blahblahblah, me self just dey follow am gree. We got home, I started watching One Piece, Sabondy arc....at a time he came...
oboy Wetin u dey watch, na Naruto?
No, One Piece.
Which one be One Piece na,
A cartoon
Chai, u get Naruto make I watch,
No, I been get am before shaa
OK, make I see as this one dey....
I slept and woke up by 3am and saw him still watching and is in Amazon Lily....
Oboy this thing sweet oo... U see fight wey happen here ehhh 1badt guy just dey destroy everybody, and this Luffy guy just dey funny dey mumu, I don laugh myself tire.
Wait oo, u Neva sleep?
Me sleep, this thing just do me like say make sleep comot make I finish am. Shey u go still dey make I collect am, abii e dey market?
No, Naija no value am, this story pass Naruto wella ooo...(showed him manga ranking chart)
Hmmmm, Naija no go ever get good thing why dem talk say Naruto na best na, even the girls here fit make me get....................................
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landinfo:
Gigagagaga, It'z funny that the more pple defend Keshi, the more the xpansion of the h.o.e.z

Lol. Fact bro. Fact. And those defending won't know they're already drifting out from the storyline.

Some idiots here trying to prove that its special chakra that awoke the sharingan....while its a fact that the Father of the clan inherited the doujutsu and its passed down the bloodline, and when pain comes, the chakra only helps to awake the power. The power is already latent in the eye and without the eye, special chakra or not can't do shit. At least we saw Kakashi with his normal chakra upgrading from 2tomeo to MS. Make una dey twist and turn una self there.
Na so I dey pass Ojoelegba yesterday, see some guys dem discussing Naruto and 1 said its the best cartoon the world, I just dey laugh for my mind. See them local champions.....Naruto never even best for im country.

Lol. Doesn't matter how long it takes, Kingdom is worth reading. The politics was dope, naija still dey learn. The wars are just damn epic.

Now with this chapter its obvious that Fujitora wasn't even going after Luffy from the start. He was bound by duty to go attacking. But there's another reveal.......Fujitora is a monster.
His observation haki spanned to more than 5km range.
Now when the Dressrosa citizens entered the sea to protect Luffy from the rubbles, Fuji could've still easily dropped the rubbles on Luffy without harming the citizens. The enemy ships which were attacking the yonta fleet (located 5km from shore) got rubbles dropped on them accurately by Fujitora (who's on the shore), and when Fujitora decided to drop all rubble, he was precise enough to drop them in the midst of the Luffy allies ships, without harming any of the ships.....

tegak10:
mangapanda have a new weed dealer.. Luffy bounty now 5million... Dem no read wetin dem translate

Lol. Stream saves the day.

SageNaruto:
As I said earlier, Luffy's answer was irrelevant...


The straw hat grand fleet begins!!!!


@princezuko1 tho d translation may be wrong but I think those pirates were referring to d bounty Doffy placed on Luffy's head in d cage...

During the birdcage he was 300m bounty from Doffy, knowing that Doffy was beaten, theres no how twill be given to them. And its already 3days so I think its marine bounty.