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phenom666:
Intelligent demon with no heart for d poor.
OK take this:

The legal entity we call Harvard University was officially established in 1650 as "a Corporation, consisting of seven persons, to wit, a President, five Fellows, and a Treasurer or Bursar ... which ... shall be called by the name of President and Fellows of Harvard College." This was the Charter of 1650, issued by the General Court of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, aka the Massachusetts legislature.

Read it well it's d history of Harvard university

Harvard University possesses the title of America’s oldest learning institution, founded in 1636. At its inception, this university’s name was “New College,” and its purpose was mainly to educate clergy. In 1639, the school’s name became Harvard University, so named for the Rev. John Harvard. Harvard bequeathed half of his estate and his entire library to the school upon his death. This significant bequest led the school to honor him by taking his name.

One rev. Name was used doesn't make it a Christian school. Boy used u head, check history.

It was even the Rev immense contribution to the school that gave him the legacy. Not him converting it to his personal property with contributions from the masses.

SammieJayh:
Enough insults from these foolish and uncultured nairalanders without any sense of direction...
Beginning from you if any uncouth creature insults me I'll be sure to reply with fire...


If you can't see the point I raised on responsibilities then there's no way I can make you see the light...
Since you expect Oyedepo to provide you with free education...and uplift all the poor people you should as well probe Solomon for not uplifting all the poor in his days...afterall he's the richest in the world's history.

Do you think they don't play their part? Do you know how many people are under the payroll of the church? Thousands!!!
Do you know how many people he has put through school? Do you know how many he feeds every day?

It's not by force to tithe or pay offerings...if you feel they are eating your money and using it to build 'unaffordable' schools then stop tithing to them...give your money to the poor instead and stop going about pulling down what you have no idea of...which equates to casting judgements and will ultimately lead you to hell where you can comfortably screech and gnash with fellow demon controlled individuals like yourself.

You know nothing but will not hesitate to use that maggot infested brain of yours in composing trash to post online...

See monkey reasoning.
In your demonic selfishness you prefer i expect him to acquire private properties and live in maximium opulence unlike Jesus did when the masses are left in penury without him launching a grand welfare with all the peoples contributions to uplift them. Am not morally deficient like you.
Goat are we following solomon to ask him? Follow Christ or tell us its solomonisity you practice since thats your purported standard. I guess in your reverence for the rich and disdain for the poor, what the "poor" Jesus in whose name the poor are being looted, is not worth it to take as the reference point.
Do you know how many more and the transformation of the entire messed up society if they focused more on Rehabs, orphanages, school for the blind etc, care of the aged half as much as than private properties here and there with peoples contribution?

Do you know how many people are paying to the church? Not Thousands, but MILLIONS!!!!

They preach charity but embark on grand acquisitions of private properties with peoples contribution( instead of grand welfare) and wonder why their members embark on same with peoples money when they get into government. Are they not the ones breeding those kind of leaders through their own practices which citizens learn from then manifest when they become leaders? A million and one more of these morally deficient so called churches with their unchristly ideology cant help the country improve as they further fuel exploitation, unfairness and inhumanity of the poor masses.

Surely, judgement will start in the house of God.

SammieJayh:
We are not saying they should be sent to the government...we are asking you face the truth and stop blaming Mr B for the failure of Mr A when Mr A is supposed to be solely responsible for the smooth running of a project with Mr B being the supportive friend...

You all are insatiable...TB Joshua publicizes his own works of charity...but they criticise him saying he's fetish and doesn't operate by God or they say it's a publicity stunt...others don't publicize theirs and you all will say they aren't doing anything...
So what exactly do you want?



The church taught them morality...but will it force them to accept it? A lot of people were told by their parents to avoid premarital sex...but do they all listen?

Jesus and his disciples preached to thousands...but did they all repent?
So will that be enough reason to blame Jesus and his disciples?

A lot of people go to church but aren't saved...will you then blame the church for their personal issues?

People learn by watching teachers do what they preach not whatever they say.
When Jesus saw the masses he had compassion on them and FED them not just talk. When your do called pastors see the masses they develop greed and selfishness and seek to get them buy them jets and build private uni's mainly for the rich.
Then turn around to tell them to face government. If government fails and church fails too should only government be blamed?
The church are so much focused on private property than welfare that whatever they preach to the contrary is just hypocritical. If tgey invested have of the peoples contribution they use for personal properties, it will make a lot of difference to all and sundry and provide ample real lessons for members of the society to learn and apply when the become public leaders thereby making government better.

No amount of deflection can water down these simple facts.

SammieJayh:
I'd decided not to jump on these CU/Private fee threads because most of the critics just come to spew hate...but I couldn't resist the urge any longer.

Their words aren't convincing enough and are quite factless...but they will stick to their ignorance like pandas to stupidity .

Imagine that phenom guy saying 45,000USD is chicken change in the USA...he doesn't know that in the USA if your 100USD goes missing you'll be worried...except you're a millionaire... He sees people flaunting rented Bugattis, Mercedes and Ferraris on YouTube and feels money grows like grass over there...

Y'all should wake up, 10k in the USA is like having 1-2m down here.

They say Oyedepo makes profits from the school...not knowing LFC still supports the school financially from time to time... LFC subsidizes CU and LMU just as the FG subsidizes her own schools...

Schools that don't get any form of subsidy charge between 1.2m and 5m( Abuad, Turkish Nile, Baze, AUN) ...you should look them up...but no! Rather then get knowledge...they'll just resort to online rants like the e-rats that they are and come for a school that isn't hurting them or their family members...

Is it stamped anywhere that all LFC members must attend CU or LMU...must all RCCG members attend Redeemers University? or all Catholics attend Madonna or Veritas...

Can all Nigerians afford to attend UI/Unilag? Can all Edo and Kwara indegenes afford Edo University, Iyamho and Kwasu respectively?

But they'll rather critique the church and pastors for not solving the problem(s) their useless government isn't doing anything about.

Johesu strike is on going ...someone I know died recently as a result of the strike...but rather than blame the government; organise protests(peaceful or violent-so long as no one dies) they'd sit at home like koalas and expect Oyedepo and the church to revamp the health sector too and pay health workers since he's the messiah of the nation born with the sole responsibility of being a slave to humanity and provider of basic amenities simply because he accepted the call to service...

So since the government is not doing much to uplift the poor, the church shouldn't too?
Jesus never spewed such nonsense as you did above when he noticed that those he was preaching to were hungry. He never said am not a slave to humanity. Instead, he set an example of how to be humane by providing for them but in your black mans m*ronic case the people should be sent to their bad government after manipulatively disposing them off the little they have. Goatish morally deficient demons manifesting everywhere.

People in government are from the churches but the churches never taught them morality, social respondibility and humanitarian sensitivity so how can they help the masses with their positions?

comodo:
Ebuehi is quicker off d blocks. It gives him a very big advantage over quick wingers. Shehu doesn't have it, more so shehus positioning is always suspect. Sorry people will attack me, but its d truth. I pray he plays against England. Then we will have a clearer view.

Both are good in their own way.

kimbraa:
Quote where she said the attraction is no longer there. What she was talking about is that her sex life changed and coupling with the fact that her husband claims her pussy slacks at times then she's cheating. That is their problem. How would you feel if someone accuses you of something you're not doing? The act of love making isn't all about pathing a woman's leg and getting done with it in minutes. Couples have to be physically and psychologically ready for the act of love making to take its cause effectively. Imagine where you leave your home as early as 6:am, spend 12 hours from 24 working, come back tired, and you'd have to cook or do one or two things before bedtime and someone wakes you for sex...Would she perform? Then when she doesn't, you say it's because another man is involved.

Una better make it tight joor. Grip is what makes there worthwhile. A high percentage of men suspect their girlfriend talk less of wife when the grip is not there. Many wont say it out loud. A slack pussy makes men paranoid. An unresponsive wife, in addition, knocks them into savage mode.

highqueen:

was helping him display his stupidity.


he can't get pass mentioning me to get erected.

Gets erected oh. Lol. Na so mentioning you powerful abeg i need to start mentioning you too o or is it his whatever that is so flexible.

flamingREED:
The money the poor contributed might not suffice to be used to lay even the foundation of these schools we're talking about.

2nd, they were not guaranteed probal slots when the state-of-the-art schools were just mental incipience.

3rd, you've been using derogatory terms and I've christianly avoided the use of such parlance.
It's not like you're more lyrically inclined than I am,
nor do I think your grammatical chestnut is more stupendous than that I accoutre.

If you can't converse without charity,
But must sustain their blight employ;
Equal to the same perversity,
You pretend some souls annoy.

Let me concisely affirm,
Being not magniloquently wanton;
That for anymore uncouth term,
... I'll ignore you on.

Then stop soliciting for their money if you (or only) to disdainfully consider it as useless afterwards. Better still, use whatever they give to do things that wont benefit the rich mainly exclusively while they have lots thrown at them.
What kind of inhumane animals of supporters are these who have hijacked a beautiful religion in Africa to execute their bloated greed and selfishness? And the Bible regarded some as goats so calling you one is not necessarily an insult.
All your linguistic prowess is a waste to you and your generation if you lack humane and moral aptitude more so as a purported Christian.

flamingREED:
You don't have to be in a big school to be saved.
That is the prodding your vaster IQ should have given you.
The poor are meeker, humble, more accessible and easier to reach for Christ.
The rich can hardly be reached because they're hedged in by class.
Now the church is reaching their progeny by creating classy platforms, a strategy heaven endorses, and you're here whining like a selfish wife.
You think Christ's body would have been released to his poor disciples if not for influential Nicodemus and Joseph of A. who went and begged Pilate for its release?
The rich have a vital role in God's Kingdom.
I know you'll whine again like your view matters.

So suddenly when it comes to the poor, going to a big school is no longer an opportunity for salvation while on other hand you are saying it offers an opportunity for the rich to be saved. So only the rich deserves such opportunity with contribution of the poor? Get your logic straight.

No one has anything against reaching the rich but don't exclude and also reach the poor equally or even more just like Jesus the apostles and missionaries did. To reach only the rich alone with money contributed by the poor too is immoral. You must very daft and brainlessly deceptive not to appreciate that. Who supports the rich into positions of power? Is it not the majority poor? If enogh effort is not geared towards saving the poor, they will keep suppprting the wrong rich people to be leaders. Christianity and the contributions from it is not meant exclusively to be directed towards benefiting the rich alone. Such a pity, i have to go out of my way to make you know that the poor may be humble meek etc but needs even more help than the rich otherwise can easily become crooked violent and anti-society.


Niccodemus and Joseph A used there position as rich people not to manipulate the poor to contribute to serving mainly the rich but for the betterment of all Christ followers.

Your brand of salvation opportunity exclusive to the rich is not Christianity as Jesus, apostles and missionaries instituted. Its only a reflection of the warped and misguided orientation of Africans towards even their own.

flamingREED:
Poverty is not God's fault.

A Rich man/his son converted is still a plus for the poor.
A Rich man's faith is very influential.

Imagine president Buhari and his children getting born again.

But consider what they commit without being saved.
They can burn a whole country down.

Who said poverty is God's fault? Abi your brain dey give loss signal?

Stop using your low IQ brain to miscontrue the religion because with your orientation, only the rich should be saved and the poor can go to hell. Its important for both the rich and the poor to have opportunity of salvation. If they give this people chance only the rich will go yo heaven because according to their low IQ, they will influence God more.

Junior66:
You education is a waste bro. So you believe the church should be responsible.for the reallocation/redistribution of wealth? Did Jesus and Mohammed the founders of their various religions do that?

So the feeding of 5000 by Jesus with a boys fish was not reallocation/redistribution of wealth? Right there and then Christ showed how whatever is collected from the public should be used -for the public without exclusion of any. I guess most of you shenanigans would have used the loaf of bread to feed omly the rich among the crowd. All the emphasize on charity even categorically asking a rich man to sell his property and give the money to the poor wasn't wealth redistribution?
A typical self-centereed black cant comprehend anything that is not exclusively beneficial to him.

You may have attended school but surely you are not educated.

kunleweb:
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Truth be told i've been taking note of all you've be saying my brother. You;re dropping hot revelations o. These words of yours are cutting deep and can only be embraced and accepted by only the few discerning. If we look beyond the heroics of the so-called fathers around, these guys have failed the kingdom big time. It's time for systemic change, a shock that triggers a sharp reaction and re-think.I align with your positions but if you could criticize these men albeit more slightly, i'll really appreciate it. In doing good we must not leave our rears unguarded by over-reacting which could result into condemnation. I think this is where i should ask for your contact as we almost always have photocopied views on issues of life. If you don't mind chilling to talk, i'ld like us both to hook up. Are you in Nigeria/Lagos?

I agree to all your points and submissions above. I really dont like over criticism but one gets provoked into being less politically correct over the way the supporters tries to twist very simple glaring issues even to the point of trying to demonize people for raising important issues.

Hopefully someday we will meet.

kunleweb:
There's need for a balancing system to re-align the extremes. But what do we do ?

We start by no longer keeping mute and revealing the truth, then pointing forward suggestions and ideas that hopefully will get be heard by the GO someday. Hopefully, God will touch their hearts and they will..CHANGE .

Raw capitalism has negative consequences if not balanced by some humanitarian ideology. Such humanitarian ideology can be imbibed by individual when they behold church leadership dedicated and highly committed to bringing certain socialistic upliftment apparatus within the reach of the poor. In contrast, if the church fails to bring such to the social and ideological table, where will individuals learn it from? Then it will be a case of "chop whoever you can anyhow you can" as seen in Nigeria.

kunleweb:
Hahahaha princefred you won't kill me.This took my two feet off the ground " manipulating the poor to build universities for the rich "

Thats basically what is going on. Imagine if that was how Christ, the apostles and missionaries ran the religion if people would have given their lives for it or if e for expand beyond Isreal?

Whites carry better religion which helped meliorate the negative effect of capitalism with humanitarianism and welfare for the poor, come Africa, show them example finish go only for Africans to turn around and use their selfishness render the religion inconsequential.

Not as many churches in developed nations but the much manage to balance capitalism by infusing humanitarianism and a look out for the poor into the sphere but Nigeria with churches littered every corner can't counter the effect of greed and exploitation of the rich by the poor ideology because the church tacitly fuel such mindless mindset.

flamingREED:
You think you're smarter than they are?

So long as the rich's son will be converted in that school, they know that they're shareholders, and God will pay them back in multiples.

The kingdom project is for all,
In anyway possible they can support it,
Irrespective of the target audience.

I know am smart. I also know you prefer me to be dumb and deceptive like you?

So the poor man's son shouldn't be able to afford the chance of being converted there abi? Imagine if the missionaries spewed this nonsense instead of doing what they did. If they give these business center church leaders chance, only rich people will book heaven then the poor can literally go to hell.

My friend if everyone cant get access then better get the rich to build for only poor people exclusively to be converted and see how it sounds. Abi the rich no wan make God pay them in multiples?

CodeTemplar:
Widowers might was reflected in heaven and to the men on earth. Stop applying daft logic.

What manner of gibberish is that? Am not surprised you dont have enough brain cells to decipher the lesson of the widows mite. You need to change church because its been a waste of time attending the ones who are busy manipulating the poor to build universities for the rich than explaining the import of the widows might.

kunleweb:
You don't dissapoint.You can talk the living out of the dead my brother

Lol . My brother reason nam na. Wetin these people dey de and support, good? Yet they have the temerity to call those who speak up shenanigans.

ONY3KAH:
do your search there are still a lot of missionary sponsored secondary schools. Go to boko haram affected territories, the people taking care of the idp's are churches.... you guys should get your facts right before bashing churches.

Again, if thats what they are heavily focused on as it should be and not a mere side show, one shouldn't have to research to know them just like one dont have to research to know about the unis were huge funds enter. E.g I dont need to research to know about red cross.

ONY3KAH:
do your search there are still a lot of missionary sponsored secondary schools. Go to boko haram affected territories, the people taking care of the idp's are churches.... you guys should get your facts right before bashing churches.

Again, it thats what they are heavily focused on as it should be and not a mere side show, i shouldn't have to research to know them just like dont have to research to know about the unis were huge funds enter. E.g I dont need to research to know about red cross.

CodeTemplar:
Human brain dude. Church can't impregnate a woman. Meet you mother and father and ask them how much tax they paid to the govt all their life. Stop giving peanuts and expecting mega subsidy. If you didn't make the cut for scholarship next year is there and the year after next is there.

"Giving peanuts" Christ had to address such unchristianly demented warped orientation like yours when he talked about the widows mite. As a r*tard you never got to read nor understand that part. Tell your nefarious GO's and pastors to stop asking for and collecting peoples "peanuts" then even by twisted entire sermons just for that purpose.

flamingREED:
It's not like the rich who give the most even have their kids in the schools,
And no Christian is under compulsion to support a project beyond their means.

But they'll rather give than give in to your pretentious concerns.


This is from 2nd Corinthians 8
2
KJV:How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality.
ESV:for in a severe test of affliction, their abundance of joy and their extreme poverty have overflowed in a wealth of generosity on their part.
NIV:In the midst of a very severe trial, their overflowing joy and their extreme poverty welled up in rich generosity.
AMP:For in the midst of an ordeal of severe tribulation, their abundance of joy and their depth of poverty [together] have overflowed in wealth of lavish generosity on their part.
3
KJV:For to their power, I bear record, yea, and beyond their power they were willing of themselves;
ESV:For they gave according to their means, as I can testify, and beyond their means, of their own accord,
NIV:For I testify that they gave as much as they were able, and even beyond their ability. Entirely on their own,
AMP:For, as I can bear witness, [they gave] according to their ability, yes, and beyond their ability; and [they did it] voluntarily,
4
KJV:Praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.
ESV:begging us earnestly for the favor of taking part in the relief of the saints—
NIV:they urgently pleaded with us for the privilege of sharing in this service to the Lord’s people.
AMP:Begging us most insistently for the favor and the fellowship of contributing in this ministration for [the relief and support of] the saints [in Jerusalem].
5
KJV:And this they did, not as we hoped, but first gave their own selves to the Lord, and unto us by the will of God.

Now was the money and gifts they gave used to fund the fund private projects affordable to only the rich among them? Why will they not be motivated to give when they know their pastors were not using their money to live in grandeurs opulence?

ONY3KAH:
do your search bro... the secondary schools were not completely free.... you had to pay a token and you had to buy books... do you know how much it is to run a standard university?

Why not they give their fellow blacks secondary school were they can pay a token?

LaExpert:
You have only littered the thread with unintelligible things.

Keep looking for free things from the church.
Keep expecting them to perform the role of the government for you.

Remain in your gross ignorance.

Goat, i dont need anything from the church but i must speak against their prosteterious shenanigans or robbing the poor to empower the rich. The church have a social and moral responsibility not to disenfranchise some of its members not just to serve the rich among them after collecting money from both the rich and the poor. Is that too hard for your thick skull to appreciate? If you have a problem with that go piss on a transformer.

RuthDaniels:
I know mentioning me gives you erections but what I don't know is how long you will keep having these erections? Can you tone it down with the mentions, Please?

BTW I forgot today is Children's day, I should have spared you and celebrate you

Happy Children's day Stan!

Erection kwa.

mhisbliss:
The ones i know are vain and stupid

Their wisdom can actually appear as foolishness to foolish Nigerians. I know. Thats why they are building a great country unlike the Nigerian sh*thole.

DrinkLimca:
Lol hahaha shades of the century...

I haff died..

Ghanian ladies are kind of intelligent.

Even the men too.

LaExpert:
Mr,

My post you jumped on and replied was directed to someone who wants free Universities from Churches.

If you didn't know the basis of our discourse, why were you so dumb to ignorantly jump on it? My response to you was following from the previous discourse.

The free things we were talking about was universities.

Now, crawl back into your hole and mind your business since you have nothing reasonable to say.

Mr goat brain better read whatever i wrote there and take jottings while at it for your own empty skull.

LaExpert:
Mr,

My post you jumped on and replied was directed to someone who wants free Universities from Churches.

If you didn't know the basis of our discourse, why were you so dumb to ignorantly jump on it? My response to you was following from the previous discourse.

The free things we were talking about was universities.

Now, crawl back into your hole and mind your business since you have nothing reasonable to say.

Mr goat stop supporting shenanigans in the name of whatever.

LaExpert:
If you still don't understand that these schools have to be maintained, then I cannot help you at this point.

@The bold, what sort of unintelligible thing are you saying?

You are too retarded to understand. Dont blame yourself blame whites.

In saner climes, the rich and elites contribute to uplift and educate the poor. In Nigeria semi goats cheer the rich as tgey manipulate to get the poor to contribute to educate the rich. And they wonder why the society remains a mess even with churches littered everywhere.

What is the difference between what these GO's do and what scammers do? Is it not the same spirit of manipulations and half truth? Or do they tell their members up front that "hey people contribute to build universities but your children cant afford to attend because bla bla bla"? They should try that lets see if their shenanigan manipulations wont backfire.

Black selfishness disguised into Christianity leading to convoluted brains everywhere.

DrayZee:
Jesse, Sapele, Ehiope West, Delta State.
See just carry your lies out of my face.

Which lies? You cant be calling me a lie and expect me to share information that can reset your dumb brain box to you. So go ask a village idiot in your village as he should be smarter than you anyway.

Junior66:
After reading the original post and my comment you still believe Nigerian universities make profit? Can you help explain how universities make profit in Nigeria? Thank you. Provide details too.

So if profit making is not involved why not they build orphanages rehaps etc instead? Why not those school be in the name of entity not GO and family?