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Nig4Greatness:
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@OP......Pls come and see one of your ardent followers and admirers(another lazy Nigeria youth ..lol),(the likes that want to reap where they did not sow)).openly proposing to you o,it would be nice if you can accept on time so as to take him out of his misery...LMAO!!!....abeg na joke o.

First, am not a lazy Nigerian youth like you and Buharis children. Then am not in misery. Then her taking me out or not is not the point. The point is that I love the way she reasons. And yes help me beg her to accept my application. And stop thinking like a fowl by talking about reaping and sowing as am very willing to start sowing into the life of the op right away if thats what it takes .Its rare to find sensible humble women these days and i appreciate one enough when i see her to apply. Abi are you jealous? If you dont know better woman, me i know them by the way they reason.

theamerican:
When did I ask anyone to tear their passports? I see you missed the point of the whole thread. All you picked is "someone is attacking Nigeria and asking us to tear our passports", may God bless your heart.

That's how many reason in Nigeria like fowl.

Congrats man. Glorious wishes. Mutual love and marriage is a miracle.

EMMAACHILE:
@reDazey
I understand your point. Is Nigeria suppose to be the way it is? NO

Can it be improved? YES

The topic of this thread is whether moving abroad is worth it.

Is moving abroad worth it? It depends on the individual involved imo.

If you have a low income, Nigeria is a no no. But for those earning above 500k per month, it doesn't look wise to start afresh abroad.
Some will still move and make it better while resigning their jobs with 1m naira per month. Others will regret the move like the girl from Canada posted earlier in the week.

I always tell people learn a skill and be self employed. That's the best way to survive worldwide.

Did you misplace your thinking cap before? Please dont next time. Fine one there. But some people even with 1m a month may prefer to go abroad for the better standard of leaving even if it means lesser salary or starting afresh. Like someone said before here, making money may not equate to happiness and (i add ) peace of mind. Go there first so you can understand and be in a better position to make better choice. People like you will be asking where they have been since and no they near naija again after they land for yonder.

Trenton:
xtains and dia stupid endtime mentality.

Stop sniffing fresh dung. Cook it and allow it to dry first you no ge hear. Ehhmn see your brain naw wrong wrong signals.

Thesia:
His tool wey look like my pinky finger....
Hahaha >
He won't even try it near me or !!!

No matter the size of it. It will feel like you saw masquerade when you behold it.

Affordablerent:
We have one of the biggest economies in Africa

We are the most industrialized in Sub-saharan Africa

Our democracy is young but we don't have any life long president like in Cameroon, Zimbabwe and other African countries

We have one of the cheapest cost of living in sub-saharan Africa

We have one of the best infrastructure in sub-saharan Africa, the only thing we are behind in is electricity supply.

We have the largest aviation hub in sub Saharan Africa

Our seaports are the biggest and most active in sub Saharan Africa

We have the most advanced communication and IT facilities in sub Saharan Africa

We need to do a lot more to improve on what we have done so far but expecting us to become America overnight is not sensible, it will take time and cooperation. If we all run, who will build the country, if we tear our passports as theamerican said we should, who will be a Nigerian citizen?


I need people to rent house here, what will happen to my business?

Now that you are trying to make sense, are you not happy with yourself? But see the flaw; All these achievement is in comparism with other grossly underdeveloped countries and some others mainly a function of the size of Nigeria one way or the other. Comparism should made to the right standard not below the metric. So those dont really match her up with real developing (not USA) nations. How much sense does it make to compare and oil rich, mineral resources rich, highly populated country with subsaharan nations? Its like saying Abuja is fine because its finer that one village. Nice try though. Also going abroad to make money and reinvest in Nigeria will be better for your business than everyone remaining to pivk crumbs after politicians have looted the bulk and moved the money.....ABROAD!

Thesia:
They say Emotions cloud judgement, but in my case I don't give a f*ck

Weather am a feminist or No

I won't stand and let a fellow woman like me get treated that way.....



I hate it when men thinks the world revolves around them, but the truth is they are nothing...
Nothing!!!

So wetin you for do ? Grab his tool? He for turn self-service off to you no longer at the lady, then what? Even the sight of his tools will paralyze you for 5 minutes until he is done.

Thesia:
Forming feminist.... Huh

And who do u think is the creep there, is it not the guy....

Honestly some men are scumbags.....

Yeah the guy is but why would the lady call men to come save her? She no see other ladies or She for do wetin she dey call the men to come do based on equality. Abi when e red una dey forget feminism fast do the needful?

Thesia:
Forming feminist.... Huh

And who do u think is the creep there, is it not the guy....

Honestly some men are scumbags.....

Yeah the guy is but why would the lady call men to come save her. She for do wetin she dey call the men to do based on equality. Abi na when e red una dey forget feminism?

MrMoney007:
Men always displaying their feelings, women always forming feminists but beg for blow jobs in privacy

Wow

BuddhaPalm:
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When shít hits the fan, guess who they run to for help?

Men!

After they'll be shouting "patriarchy" and claim to be feminists.

Lol

EMMAACHILE:
A civil servant without any other external income in Abuja is akin to a pauper.

And you are saying the country is developing. Are you not seeing how tattered your logic is?

Affordablerent:
Nigeria is developing. It's my opinion, you don't need to be angry about my opinion

sponsorship to fund any invention

You have every right to your opinion but should defend or back it up with logic and indices otherwise such opinion can be rightly considered as being moronic. Even mad people have opinions albert moronic ones. Even my dog has opinion when i want to chain it. The quest here is facts. In what areas is Nigerians development worthy to be considered a developing nation? Someone or a microscopic few doing well or badly is not a sensible proof or metric of the country's development.

EMMAACHILE:
Ignore button may be activated. Old man, explain to me abeg.

What do you mean by ignore button?

Affordablerent:
This thread is funny. Someone calls herself "theamerican" opens thread to abuse Nigeria and ask people to tear their passport. Some people jump on her bandwagon and start following their leader's advice. It's the same thing as collecting money to vote without knowing if the person can lead well. I'm sure they will PM the babe to send invitation letter to them. Whether good or bad it's a perception. If I say Nigeria is good to me like some are saying, it's not anybody's business, it doesn't make them selfish, just like you feel Nigeria is bad to you should not make you selfish, you are only being real. But here if someone says Nigeria is good to him, people will become angry and start attacking instead of asking the person to show them the way. Do you think everybody is poor? it's not possible. Learn from others, when a guy say it's good for him, ask him what he does and learn but here they will write long letter to convince you that it's bad, it must be bad for you to satisfy them. Are you in their shoes?

Contact me for affordable rent. Land in Badagry available

Your state of life alone does not say if the country is developed, developing or stagnant and another person saying something about the country does not mean they are poor or rich. Just because one is rich does not mean the country is doing fine or developing. And for one to acknowledge reality or say the country is stagnant does not automatically mean the person is poor.

Affordablerent:
This thread is funny. Someone calls herself "theamerican" opens thread to abuse Nigeria and ask people to tear their passport. Some people jump on her bandwagon and start following their leader's advice. It's the same thing as collecting money to vote without knowing if the person can lead well. I'm sure they will PM the babe to send invitation letter to them. Whether good or bad it's a perception. If I say Nigeria is good to me like some are saying, it's not anybody's business, it doesn't make them selfish, just like you feel Nigeria is bad to you should not make you selfish, you are only being real. But here if someone says Nigeria is good to him, people will become angry and start attacking instead of asking the person to show them the way. Do you think everybody is poor? it's not possible. Learn from others, when a guy say it's good for him, ask him what he does and learn but here they will write long letter to convince you that it's bad, it must be bad for you to satisfy them. Are you in their shoes?

See as they dey unleash their spirit of blind selfishness.
Let me borrow this reply for you from someone with a soul:

As I mentioned earlier, you need to be myopic and selfish to live in Nigeria successfully. If someone claims to have government generated power supply 24/7, does his claim reflect the position of majority of Nigerians? I live in Abuja and I can say on average, power supply in my home lasts for 6 hours a day. Currently, it is raining and there is no light. Oh yes, I have to pray fervently for no rain because it means no light. But then, what would the subsistence farmer rely on for his water supply if my prayer is answered? In effect, I supply my own power through my noisy and unhealthy generator more than I receive from AEDC.

My office is at the city center and yes, you would think we would have 24/7 power supply. Well, unfortunately, we have to run those generators almost 24/7.

Look around you before you say Nigeria is developing. Maybe visit the villages too. No good roads, no power supply, no water supply, no healthcare. When will all these infrastructure be provided? It is easy to sit in my office and say there is so much job opportunities for Nigerian youths when there are recorded statistics to the contrary.

EMMAACHILE:
How does migrating help the masses then? I am lost here

See wetin grown up dey ask and una say Nigeria get hope to develop. Or is it that the NL dont have age filter or small IQ test like captcha test before sign up? Abeg ask the op am not good at teaching kids.

EMMAACHILE:
Me myself don't need education anymore except for just more knowledge. I can survive anywhere bro. I have access to water and roads at least. Where I stay in Abuja has almost 24/7 electricity, and Lokoja is poorer at 16 hours averagely.
I will make more cash here than overseas and can decide to make the move whenever I want. I will not make the move because I am trying to survive or to make more money but only to enjoy the infrastructure there. There is a difference between the two.

Thats the self centered orientation that has kept Nigeria backwards. Just because you enjoy electricity or good roads inside one estate or area does not nullify the fact thats its pathetic that other citizens, say 97%, are not assured of 10 hr/day power supply in this century or that its unfortunate that road construction or patching is still celebrated in an oil rich country after 50+ years. Just because things are well with a microscopic few does not mean the sufferings of many more should be overlooked. No society develops with such selfish orientation as yours and those of so called Nigerian leaders. Just because Buhari affords medical trips does not mean Nigerians have great healthcare.

reDazey:
Having worked in a government parastatal for four years, I can tell you straight up, we are doomed in Nigeria. From underground job recruitments without advertising to over-bloated budgets, to disobedience to the rule of law to massive fund misappropriation to terrible working conditions to insensitivity to staff welfare. Sweetheart, port if you can now. I regret not doing so 6 years ago because I believed so much in my country. I have seen that to survive in Nigeria, you need to have a bit of selfishness, heartlessness, wickedness, myopic, daftness, shortsightedness, and excess of corruptness.

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Those are virtues in the shithole.

Excellence is not rewarded rather mediocrity is applauded. When you act different, many look at you like you are from Mars. Is this your idea of a developing country because from my analysis, that is still mediocrity.

Exactly.

AngelicBeing:
Don't bother to engage the frustrated jobless guy, once you point out the sufferings in that jungle he lives in without any hope for him, he gets pissed off, the truth is Nigeria is beyond redemption and I stand by my opinion, l pity his miserable life in a shithole jungle, instead of him to rise up against the useless politicians that have rendered Nigeria a cesspit of poverty and darkness he is busy attacking people who are saying the truth about Nigeria, Nigeria is a failed state, worldpoverty com said that Nigeria has the highest poor people in the world, every indices of a failed state is in Nigeria, let him continue his patroitism to a failed jungle, nonsense

Maybe smoking codeine or sniffing raw fresh dung fried his brain cells finally.

orimahspence:
If you need researched fact to confirm the hell you see in Nigeria everyday, then it seems your sense don't serve you right!

If you lives in Nija and still need an analyzed data to confirm there's absolutely nothing developing about Nigeria , then you need a serious help

Who lives here, watch bbc, Cnn ,aljazeera and still need link to confirm Nigeria is a hugely underdeveloped country?

'Developing' is simply a pleasant term made to make some zombies comfortable and agree that the country is moving forward while the reverse is the case

However, Nothing to add, except this article, which may lay your hope in Nigeria to rest.

CAUTION; read at your peril!!!!

https://www.thecable.ng/memories-midnight

That guy needs koboko to reset his dead brain box. Even a goat knows when grass no dey. With that kind brainless daft making up citizens of Nigeria, how can the country ever progress? He should come and take analysis link from my ass.

orimahspence:
If you need researched fact to confirm the hell you see in Nigeria everyday, then it seems your sense don't serve you right!

If you lives in Nija and still need an analyzed data to confirm there's absolutely nothing developing about Nigeria , then you need a serious help

Who lives here, watch bbc, Cnn ,aljazeera and still need link to confirm Nigeria is a hugely underdeveloped country?

'Developing' is simply a pleasant term made to make some zombies comfortable and agree that the country is moving forward while the reverse is the case

However, Nothing to add, except this article, which may lay your hope in Nigeria to rest.

CAUTION; read at your peril!!!!

https://www.thecable.ng/memories-midnight

Is that guy blind, deaf and dumb?

theamerican:
Dear @Nig4greatness,

The thread is not a restrictive one. It simply asks people to say if they think traveling is worth it and try to give reasons for their answer(s). When people say misleading things, I decide to refute those claims. If you say I prefer staying in Nigeria because of the gun violence abroad", that's a good reason. I may say nothing OR decide to say/prove that there's also gun violence in Nigeria, hence a healthy debate.

Another example: "All the people traveling abroad wash plates and sweep floors, so I don't wanna travel" is different from "if I travel, getting a job good job abroad may be difficult considering the fact that I have an already stable job here". You see? I will instantly disagree with the first, and the second may or may not be argued.

Case is different if someone says "I prefer staying in Nigeria because they kill everybody in the U.S. there's no black family in the U.S. that doesn't have a gun violence victim, they shoot all the blacks there". Now that's a statement that's completely misleading and untrue. So... I will refute that nonsense and set the record straight in case people who don't know, read such nonsense.

Also, a person abroad who says: "No one in Nigeria eats 3 square meals" is saying nonsense. I will definitely reject that. So, you see? It's a thread for healthy arguments and counter-arguments. We learn from each other.

Also, I didn't even quote any law. I just reminded you that you're under oath. That's all.

You have been making perfect sense all the way. Please don't allow any one make you feel pilloried with their typical local low IQ argument style of Nigerians . You are here making enlightenment sense and politely covering all important areas without even resorting to personal/irrelevant sentiment gibberish or bragging and someone wants to make you pilloried with talks about thread closing. What an out of point nonsense.

orimahspence:
@justwise, tell them again, That political correctness that lies to stagnating countries, calling them ‘developing countries’ when in truth they are stagnant and in some cases even retrogressing is just disingenuous. So Haiti is a developing country alongside The Sudan, South Sudan, Somalia, Nigeria, Afghanistan and Pakistan? What is Brazil, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, South Africa, Thailand, Argentina, India, Egypt… if these sores of the earth are developing countries?

Folks, Tell yourselves the truth Nigerians and shame the Devil; a country whose health system is so none-existent that for 40yrs its leaders have gladly and continuously sought health solutions overseas cannot be said to be developing. A country is not developing because its citizens drive more cars or own bigger structures in its major cities or fly enough private jets to shame the Kenyans. A country that made and still makes trillions of naira not by any tasking revenue drives nor through sci-tech advancement but by hiring foreigners to dig up its oil, ship overseas for refining and import as finished products, and still cannot generate enough electricity for more than 5hrs/day for half of its population cannot claim to be developing, especially when you consider how long the charade of trying to generate electricity has taken.

A country that cannot supply drinking water to homes, clear domestic refuse from its cities; condemns its mentally challenged to roam its streets; flies presidents upon presidents, governors and senators overseas to treat knee issues (IBB), ear infections (Buhari), a mismanaged case of malaria!( Yar’adua) and miscellaneous trivia health issues and has a minister boldly announce how it will be making pencils in 4years would have been declared a failed nation had Somalia not refused to concede a few points. But when you take into consideration the resources at the disposal of Nigeria you just shove off the irredeemably recalcitrant, usurping Somalians.

Again, when you consider how most Nigerians are blissfully oblivious of the shame of having their president luxuriate in the UK for some undisclosed ailment while their country continuously allocates millions of dollars to a no-existent healthcare system; when you consider how the citizens keep mute over this grievous violation of their dignity and humanity; when you come to know that there are even citizens who don’t find this shameful and worthy of a call for impeachment, citizens who tongue-lash fellow compatriots for asking cogent questions about these bewildering oddities, you come to the realization that you are dealing with a country of failed citizens.

That Nigeria itself is not yet declared a failed state is partly because its reprobate buccaneers still want everything held together so they can continue using the pretense at nationhood to get richer and more influential. When they are rich enough, when the oil dries up, then Somalia will abdicate and Nigeria shall take its rightful place. Until then, let’s continue to play the ostrich, let’s continue to execute the injunctions of misinformed pastors when they ask us to “pray for our dear county, Nigeria”, let’s continue to wallow in the deceptive beauty of that tag, “developing nation”. But while at it, let those who seek to really move things beyond the lies and fallacies ask themselves again; what exactly qualifies a country as developing?- and afterwards proceed to study Brazil while reading Niyi Osundare’s Here Nothing Works to the accompaniment of Lagbaja’s 180million Mumus. When I get my visa pere!!! O-dabo in Aregbes voice

The huge love for self deception and delusions makes a Nigerian refer to the moribund country as a developing one . A country cant develop without its people knowing their true state. When Trump called it a sh&thole and Nnamdi Kanu called it a zoo, they think they were insulting the country but they were just saying it as it is. An oil producing country dragging status with Somali. Is that not a curse? A nation of low IQ semi imbeciles and mental midgets praising their modern day economic slave urchins of leaders.

EMMAACHILE:
I get you. I remember when my sister and her friends from the UK came to where I was staying and saw my sitting room of 24*22 feet and dining of 14*22 feet and they were shocked that it was almost impossible to live like that in the UK.
The friends while in Nigeria were always powering off the light bulbs and the food they were eating was very little. Everything to them looks like waste or luxury including one of my sisters back home who use a new SUV and have her own large apartment in Abuja city centre.
I am still insistent that you can compare Nigeria to Europe based on the income levels of the person who is a little above average here (Nigeria earnings for this example is 800k compared to the UK resident at £2500) and not the majority of Nigerians who are struggling for survival.

The Nigerian resident is saving more than her UK counterpart and flies abroad at will to see them and not the other way round.

The major problem with Nigeria is still infrastructure and when this is solved which is like dreaming, Nigeria will be one of the best places to live.

If an average earner wants to live big in UK abroad, he will be broke. Thats the mistake many Nigerians make there. An average earner cannot live the reckless Nigerian style bigman life there because things are as expensive as what one earns there but can use the money made to live big enough here. But quality of life makes even the "not big man lifestyle" there far worth it .

justwise:
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So your family can't get good education in Nigeria?

So you think its the same education and value of certificate?

EMMAACHILE:
Funny. That's extreme. Do you know increasing number of people are renouncing their citizenship which you term heaven?

That are many Nigerians living far better at home than some Americans you should know that!
For the average person, America may be better but not for the above average person. Nigeria is good if you are doing well.
How many people abroad retire there? Most came back home to retire. There should be reason for someone from heaven to retire in hell.

Make enough money in heaven and be super rich in Nigeria.

signature2012:
Bro,pls just burn your blue pali and maintain the green one.If yankee no good for you,no ones fault,stop preaching Nigeria this,Nigeria that...e dey vex me gannnn.

What do people like you gain claiming patriotism on naija but live in America?

Na spirit of hypocrisy wey dey worry many Nigerians.

theamerican:
To @EMMAACHILE and @ugosample

"Being rich is success/happiness" and "success/happiness is being rich" are not the same.
"A rich man is a successful/happy man" and "a successful/happy man is a rich man" aren't the same too. Let's not confuse these two.

When we talk about migrating/staying in Nigeria, people are quick to say how much money you can make in Nigeria and the opportunities available. They tell you all the business ideas in the world that can make your life awesome. They keep missing the point! Not everyone travels just because they want to amass wealth. Being rich is good, money answers most of the problems in life, don't get me wrong.

Being rich wasn't the motivation for my coming here. I wanted to be in a working system. A system where accountability from everyone is paramount. A place where no professor is sleeping with me before giving me the grades I deserve. A place where cops/people won't justify or laugh at being raped because of what I wore to a party. A place where widows are protected by law and not kicked out by the family of their late husbands, I could go on and on.

These are things people take for granted... and that's fine for them. Not for me.

Babe, am in love with how you think. Please were dey de meet people like you for real life for urgent marriage lol even if na your sister abeg. Am single and searching for someone of your mental spec. I promise to be humble, hardworking, loyal and faithful if positively considered..