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PoliticsRe: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 7:02pm On Jun 06, 2020
Hotice085:
Igbo's stand as slaves and people of no value and land, the colonial masters were you saviour and this they wrote down of your hopeless future.
Your cowardice is legendary from your slave ancestors down to OJUKWU and now that warrior only on Facebook and YouTube.
Let the time come and u human reptiles dare trespass into SS land your slave ancestors will weep for u useless lots
Are you re.tar.ded or what? Why are you struggling just to quote me?
PoliticsRe: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 5:02pm On Jun 06, 2020
Tripoli:
Common cow in the name of Fulanis is there for over 60 years controlling them all they can do is making of noise online and killing themselves whatever they heard the name Niger Delta..

The truth remains Igbo no reach and no level at all.

It is a pity and a wasted population.
Mm
The same Fulani controlled Nigeria Igbos fought for 3 good years to emancipate but because you all can't see beyond your noses you teamed up with the same fulanis to sabotage it. Now they've taken all your resources while turning you into security men loitering in the bushes in the name of pipeline security while they own the oil blocks and sit in the offices earning fat salaries.

You should be ashamed bro grin grin
PoliticsRe: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 4:46pm On Jun 06, 2020
Tripoli:
But UN was in support of South Sudan I think?
Do you know how long South Sudan fought against the Arabs? Do you know how many years John Garang continued fighting before a seize fire was reached through the UN?

You think seeking for independence is all about blowing pipelines and self-destructing?
PoliticsRe: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 4:36pm On Jun 06, 2020
Tripoli:
Who is Igbo man in Nigeria of old and of today if not a mere slave that's struggling to be relevant within the corridor of power,..

Tell me a major achievement of an Igbo man without ritualist cannibalized etc

Pack well Jo!
In spite of the numbers of Arab's people Israel is still remains their masters, I advise you to know more about your people.
Lol, so because there is a gang-up against Igbos in Nigeria means little ijaw can now challenge the Igbos?

In what areas can you stand toe to toe with Igbos? If we invade the little riverine areas you call home, don't you know that you all will be pushed into the Atlantic?

Is it in education, sports, music, technology, Industry, commerce, entertainment, wealth, entrepreneurship etc. can you name just one area you can claim to have at least 10% of what Igbos have achieved??

Lol, Igbos are known globally as high achievers but who knows Ijaw anywhere?

That a lion is injured doesn't mean a cat can now challenge it. I repeat, ijaw can never achieve 10% of our potential even in the next hundred years grin grin
PoliticsRe: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 3:31pm On Jun 06, 2020
Hotice085:
[s]
It is only illiterates like you that don't my tribe and state.. When our ancestors were amassing lands and busy selling your ancestors to sugarcane plantation in the Americas and Caribbeans, you, your father, his father and father fathers were non-existence
Now in this century,you a hopeless nonentity with brain equivalent to that of a tadpole want to claim what ur fathers that were spared of slavery never dared, we will burn you all in the football pitch you call SE.

Yes there are more Igbo's in the SS and much more scattered all over the world because their land can't contain the homeless lots[/s]
After all the trash you wrote, you still couldn't make any sense. I wouldn't go into the gutter with you because pigs are better left to play alone in mud where they belong.

Even in the next 100 years, the Ijaw you are ashamed to identify with can never measure up to the Igbos in any sphere of life. You are too little and insignificant to challenge the Igbos in any anything.

A tribe of drunkards who are paid to work as gatemen and pipeline security men while others come from far and near to cart away all the oil resources leaving them to contend with polluted streams and farmlands is the one making noise.

A tribe that is so irrelevant that they can't lay claim to anything of worth now thinks they can stand where Igbos stand?

During the colonial era and despite the fact that Igbos were lenient on your people as minorities, you kept crying to the colonial masters that Igbos were marginalizing you.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Afraid Of Break Up - Senator Ekpenyong by proeast(m): 10:55am On Jun 06, 2020
bigtt76:
Break-up is totally fine it's the after effect that is the issue. Within the Igbos, you have minorities and that is why it's always difficult getting a consensus among them compared to the yorubas and Hausas.
I agree with you that getting the minorities to come to agreement is where the problem is. However, they will still have to face it someday because Nigeria is going to break sooner or later.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Afraid Of Break Up - Senator Ekpenyong by proeast(m): 10:34am On Jun 06, 2020
bigtt76:
See face! All these ones that have their families abroad. Ediot #mtscheeeeeeew

Heavens will not fall but think about the real cost of breakups - internal agitations by minorities of minorities. Nigeria will end up in smithereens of countries and more violence. People don't think shaa.

They think if for example Biafra were actualized, there would not be minorities within it that feels marginalized to want out? Even in the North there are minorities not considered worthy.
Afonja unity begger, how market?

Since you don't want to accept the reality that Nigeria is living its last days, others know that already.

I opened a thread on it yesterday too!
PoliticsRe: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 10:23am On Jun 06, 2020
sageb:
[s]face your nnamdi kanu and abia state. Charity begins at home. Look at abia state, when you cross the rivers state boundary to abia state, from azumini to aba to ukwa west and it's environs all you see is dirts and deathtrap roads. You will wonder if abia have a governor at all. The person that called abia state "God's own state" must be high on ogogoro, how can God dwell in a dirty and deathtrap state. Niger deltans have nothing to do with ipobs [/s]
Sorry, no sense found. So I can't engage you when you're not making sense.

Say something reasonable please.
PoliticsRe: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 10:17am On Jun 06, 2020
Hotice085:
. Rants of a pained man from a country whose landmass same size of a football pitch in SS but with a population 1000times the landmass.
No sense! No logic!!

There are Igbos too in the so-called SS, so why not tell me your ethnic group or are they so insignificant that you must lump all others together for you to be noticeable??

I can wager a bet that there are more Igbos in the so-called SS than your little tribe you're too ashamed to mention.
PoliticsRe: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 10:15am On Jun 06, 2020
Tripoli:
Igbo aren't in the Niger Delta but immigrants
This is so childish and full of ignorance. So the entire Delta North are migrants?

The Etche, Asa/Ndoki, Egbema, Ikwerre etc. are all migrants too?

Don't make it look like the money spent in educating you was a waste.
PoliticsRe: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 9:53am On Jun 06, 2020
Tripoli:
Israel was created with surprised.
If you think that the igbo will first get an independent before the Deltan people you're in a long thing
The funny thing is that most of you don't reason logically instead you allow emotions to override everything.

Let me inform you that UN cannot support the creation of a country they know will easily go into a civil war the very next minute.

Before you talk about presenting your case to the UN that you're seeking for independence, you will have to do the following:

Get the support of all the ethnicities that make up the Niger Delta. Now this is where you will encounter the first problem. Will the Itshekiri agree to be in the same country with the Ijaws knowing that they will be at their mercy and considering the Warri question? What about the Ikwerre, will they be comfortable to be in a country with the Ijaws knowing what that means to their current dominant position in P.H?

What about the Asa/Ndoki Igbos as well as the Egbema, do you think they will agree to go with Niger Delta when their immediate kiths and kin in Abia and Imo states respectively will be in another country?

Look at the map of SS, does that map seem realistic and logical? That map is shapeless and can't fly once it gets to the UN table.

Now contrast these challenges we the Igbos that are homogeneous and thus no need to start negotiating with others, already going for Biafra, has the global spread and unity of purpose to mount worldwide pressure etc. and yet you think you can easily get yours before Biafra??
PoliticsRe: The Niger Delta Dream (case closed) by proeast(m): 9:36am On Jun 06, 2020
Blackking98:
here you're wrong. Urhobos have militants, ogoni too, Efik too, ibibio too so ijaws don't have the Monopoly of violence so relax we'll sort ourselves out
Sentiments aside, nature blessed the Niger Delta with natural resources but ended up undermining it by making it a Babelian society.

To be honest with you, a Nigerian Delta Rep will sink into a civil war no sooner it gains independence. South Sudan is an example of how a heterogeneous and resource rich country will decend into chaos once left on their own. Ijaw will be the greatest undoing to any nation it is part of and I will give you reasons.

1. They have a topography that makes guerilla warfare easy and convenient to embark on.

2. They have oil resources that can sustain any warlord who wants to fight the government.

3. They don't believe in deplomacy rather they are aggressive and voilent when going for what they want, naturally lazy and are a band of disjointed ethnicity with many dissimilar subgroups.

I have studied the disparate ethnic groups in the Niger Delta and Ijaws are the ones that would destabilize any country that forms there. Already, they are fighting with virtually all its neighbors at the moment and the formation of a new country will cause the faultlines to deepen since there won't be external bigger enemies to fight.

Igbos will have a moderating influence if the whole region becomes one country but even at that it is still too risky for me compared to an only Igbo country that will have relative peace and stability.

Lastly, I don't think there is ever any state, least of all in Africa that has just one ethnic group so it may be difficult for the UN to grant an only Igbo country but even if we are to go together, I will always support a country where every region is autonomous to an extent.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Must Exist On Basis Of Equality — Northern Leaders by proeast(m):
So why are you all so afraid of breakup? You're talking about agriculture, is the proceeds from Agriculture shared to all Nigerians the way crude oil wealth is shared to all? One of them even claim that north is contributing human resources to Nigeria shocked shocked The man thinks that having 20 children when you can barely feed yourself and sending them out to beg on the streets is part of human resources. Illiteracy is terrible grin grin

You guys can continue decieving yourselves, only a phone call from White House will end all these nonsense. Ambazonia is a free country today after all the cheating and injustice Cameroun meted out on them. Continue cheating on Igbos but very soon, just very soon we will leave this contraption for you.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 5:56pm On Jun 05, 2020
omoharry:
Peaceful ke?The last time I checked your leader Nnamdi Kanu did not go about this in a peaceful way .He preached hate against other ethnic group and was very brash and arrogant with his protest for independence . He & his Ipob crew don't seem like peaceful set of people .I see them every day here on Nairaland & other social forum .Hate is their second name.You guys are not peaceful at all.

I am from the SS .You have no right to include states that have not officially included themselves to your course .you guys would have been worse than the hausa/Fulani that we have been complaining about .

Thank God the war was lost and the SS are not under your devilish rule..The Igbo would have oppressed the minor ethnic group to thier advantage .Arrogant people .
Now, take a look at what you wrote and tell me if you're not a hypocrite.

You're the one calling Igbos names unnecessarily yet you're complaining that Nnamdi Kanu insults other Nigerians. Na was for you o.

SS minorities can stay on their own but our Igbo brothers there are coming with us, so how is that difficult to understand??
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 5:44pm On Jun 05, 2020
Cosbyrich:
I also want Nigeria to be separated so that Yorubaland can continue to grow exponentially as it was doing before Ironsi introduced the unitary system of govt.


The secession clause should not have been opposed by Azikiwe.A lot of wrong beginnings by the Igbos.

Ambazonians started on a solid ground.

The Southern Cameroons was formerly the United Nations Trust Territory of Southern Cameroons under United Kingdom administration (1922–1961). Denied the choice of outright independence from the Trusteeship Council by the United Kingdom representative Sir Andrew Benjamin Cohen in violation of the December 6, 1946 Trusteeship Agreement, UN Resolution 1514 (xv) and the 1959 All-Party Mamfe (Ambazonia) Conference recommendations, the territory in February 1961 voted in a UN Plebiscite to gain independence from the United Kingdom by joining the French-speaking Republic of Cameroon.to form a federation of two equal and autonomous states. French-speaking Cameroon quit the federation between 1972 and 1984 and has since that time attempted to tag Southern Cameroons Ambazonia onto herself as divided provinces. English-speaking Southern Cameroons Ambazonia is admitted to the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization.
Thank you, at least unlike others that don't want to face reality, you were able to do some research and understood how it all happened between Cameroun and Ambazonia. However, from what you wrote here, you can equally draw some parallels with Nigeria and Biafra.

We were never one nation until 1919. We exited as separate entities until then. Later we fought a bitter civil war because we are incompatible and millions died, in-between we have lost hundreds of thousands of people due to the same problems of joining people of different ideologies together and you still believe that Biafra does not have enough ground just like Ambazonia to gain their own independence?
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 5:35pm On Jun 05, 2020
omoharry:
Do you know one funny thing about you Biafrans?All you all do is talk talk and hate on others who do not buy believe into your course .
I thought by now your intelligent minds are suppose to have come together to think ,plan and strategize on how ur new Biafra country can work and be sustainable should in case ur neigbours refused to go along with you?Have you guys ever sat down to plan on how your new country can attend to various factors that could cause resentment among the Igbo tribes across the five state ?so as not to stir up disagreement ,resentment and unrest that could derail the very vision for your new country ?
Instead of becoming a nuisance online by insulting people from other tribes and lamenting over a war that was faught decades ago which was declared no winner and no vanquish.Why don't you guys use this forum to gather serious minded Igbo sons and daughters and discuss on a better ways your agitation for independence can be done peacefully without violence both in Nigeria & outside the country.
Please when doing that respect the wishes of your neighbors. Do not carve them in if they do not wish to be part of Biafra. .Let any state interested in joining ur new country come voluntarily.With this you will not offend any body .
I don't know where you're getting all these fvrked up ideas from. For starters, Igbos have been peaceful in their agitation for Biafra.

Secondly, Igbo boundaries did not end with the 5 SE states so stop deluding yourself with that.

IPOB is a movement that comprised other minorities from the SE and SS, so it is their own business to fashion out how they will reconcile their interests. Left for me, I prefer an only Igbo Biafra but if a referendum is conducted and any of the minorities decide they want to join us in Biafran then we can come to a round table and choose how to go about it.

Lastly, you don't have to worry about us because the worst version of Biafra will always be better than the best possible version of Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 5:26pm On Jun 05, 2020
Yebosola:
If it's as easy as a phone call, tell your NK to phone Trump and get your Biafra, yeyenatus, do u think Igbo elites want to leave this contraption called Nigeria? They wine and dine together, is populace that held d short side of the stick.
Most of you here don't understand how international relations work. White House made that call on humanitarian grounds because of the killings that we're going on in Ambazonia. White House communicated with UN as well because US is a highly influential member.

White House can't make similar call on Nigeria simply because at the moment there is no humanitarian crises going on in the Biafran areas and Igbo elite too are yet to buy into the cause.

Once our elite decides to join the agitation like it was in 1967, then it's game over for Nigeria because you can't even win the diplomatic arena and Nigeria is also a very weak country that can't challenge UN mandate.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 5:19pm On Jun 05, 2020
TUANKU:
See person wey go rush to go cotonou claiming he turned down the opportunity to go to US.
Clout chasing fool.
Your small brain told you am from the north i guess, you must be really dumb.
I will ignore your tantrums and vile words because it shows where you're coming from. However, for you to feel that what I'm telling you is impossible equally shows you're poverty stricken.

I passed off the opportunity to travel to the US and two of my siblings went instead of me. I earn in dollars as a freelancer and I have several brick and mortar businesses I'm into too and I know I can still travel to the US someday as a tourist and not as a hustler.

However, to someone like you who is struggling to eat three square meals a day, what I'm saying is not true.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 5:04pm On Jun 05, 2020
TUANKU:
I'm broke, it means there's hope. You're poor, church rat poor.
I have almajiris like you living in my country home as maiguard and labourers.

I understand the feeling when you live in the north where 90% of the people are dirt poor but where I am, there is nothing like such.

I turned down an opportunity to travel to the USA because I'm already doing very well so you can only dream of the opportunities at my beck and call.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 4:55pm On Jun 05, 2020
TUANKU:
So Rivers State will become part of biafra? It is ok to delude others but it's not okay to delude yourself.
How would you know what is happening here kwanu when you are living in ogbomosho? IPOB has its strongest base in the Igbo speaking parts of Rivers State if you don't know. So, you think they will fight for Biafra and when they finally get it you tell them to remain in Nigeria??

Go to Obigbo in Rivers State and tell them they are not part of Biafra and see if you would survive what will follow.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 4:51pm On Jun 05, 2020
TUANKU:
Which assets? Mattress and 32 inch TV wey you get for rented room you dey say you can bet your assets, sey you brain dey pain you?
That na load be that no be assets.
Dude everyone is not broke like you.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 4:49pm On Jun 05, 2020
TUANKU:
You can only wish. "Next in line" you think say na palliatives?
You will still be using the naira and Nigerian passport by 2050 and beyond.
Show me your biafra passport, nkita.
USSR, Sudan, Ethiopia, Czech republic, India and now Cameroun all broke up within the life time of those that agitated for it. So why do you think Nigeria will be any different??

What do you is so special about Nigeria that it can't break up just like the others?

Nigeria is yet to break up because the Igbo elite have not joined the agitation yet but that will change post 2023, and I will see how you can stop the country from breaking up.
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Classic pictures!
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 3:54pm On Jun 05, 2020
AhoadaRivers:
That 'Ibo presidency' card is the only thing they've gat. They'll wave it usual, but political promises will not work this time. Pragmatic strategy of ensuring that Ibos emerge as both candidates of both major parties may their only saving grace. Though not cast in gold. grin

We don't yorubas, they can't convince anybody to help release Kwara from the hands of the fulani, their muslims hate oduduwa, their christians are confused.
Are those the kind of people you can depend on in a make or mar quest such as Biafran restoration?

A high power created nigeria, a higher internation power is who Biafra needs to set themselves free. If they get the full assurance of the UN, it will be both militarily and diplomatically costly for nigeria to fight Biafra.

Again, a higher power is needed, not these yorubas telling themselves cock and bull tales under fulani emirate rule.
I find it funny when some people claim that Nigeria is a strong country and can't be bullied by any foreign country or that no one can intervene in our local affairs because we are a sovereign nation. However, they fail to understand some issues about international relations.

Firstly, the moment Igbo elite presents a united front like they did in 1967 and present their case at the UN while lobbying the US, that will be the end of Nigeria.

Once we get the support of America, it is all over because Britain always goes along with America in diplomatic circles.

As it is now, chances of Nigeria breaking up is brighter than its chances of remaining as one.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 3:15pm On Jun 05, 2020
AhoadaRivers:
You'll see how nigeria will start waving the 'Ibo presidency' flag promising them presidency in 2023 just to kill off the agitation.

Then you'll see yoruba journalists, lawyers and several idiots claiming 'everybody is marginalized, Ibos are not the only ones marginalized' on their useless TV stations and newspapers, just to scuttle the Biafran movement. grin
Anybody that understands the Nigerian polity knows that is what will happen next. I can bet with all my assets that the entire northern ruling class are jittery over what is happening. Their Trump card is going to be on waving the presidency at Igbos which may or may not douse the agitation.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 3:04pm On Jun 05, 2020
SIONKPO1:
Fake news
UN is only trying to consider Ambazonia requests but I doubt if if it will fly cause Spain and EU are against catalunya and basque independence,
Iran,Turkey and Iraq are against making Kurdistan a country
India is against Kashmir
Sudan is against Eastern Darfur
Morocco is against western sahara
China is against Hong kong
***Everything now is controlled by a serious cartel that is against independence of new countries
Hahaha, they are still in denial mode. Fake news kwo? Ba wahala!

Is China stronger than USSR before they broke up?

Is Sudan not broken up already and what makes you to believe it can't be further broken if there is need?

Kashmir is a disputed region in contention between India and Pakistan, so that's a different ball game.

If after USSR, Yugoslavia, Ethiopia, Sudan, Czechoslovakia and now Cameroun all broke yet you're still talking like this shows you're living in denial.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 2:56pm On Jun 05, 2020
24SEVEN:
Bros no vex, is Biafria the country Nigeria should be afraid of??

A county chained round by Nigeria??
See this one, you chained Biafra abi? No wahala, the chain will soon be broken to pieces and when Biafra leaves I will like to see those that will want to remain with the fulani herdsmen, Boko Haram and the 'monkey dey work, baboon dey chop' system.

Have you asked yourself why each time Biafra seems to becoming a reality you start hearing Oduduwa Rep, Niger Delta Rep and the rest? The answer is because non of them will ever want to be left behind grin grin
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 2:46pm On Jun 05, 2020
csamii:
Niggas are pained!

We definitely breaking up
Lolz, you can feel their pain bro. They claim not to be afraid but all over Facebook, Twitter and even in this thread you can feel their frustration on this news.

Biafra is obviously leaving Nigeria soon and that is the reality they don't want to accept.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 2:44pm On Jun 05, 2020
TUANKU:
Allow these deluded illiterates to wallow in their ignorance.
Cry me a river, Cameroun has broken up and Ambazonia is about to become the world's newest country. Next in line is Biafra and the most frustrating part of it is that there is nothing you can do about it.

Enjoy your Nigeria while it lasts because you may wake up tomorrow to hear that Biafra too is gone grin grin
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 2:40pm On Jun 05, 2020
Viciheaka:
Let them make the phone call.....whether you like it or not naija no go break
This was the same type of arrogant talk Paul Biya and his Francophone side of Cameroun have been saying all these years until reality downed on them.

Who is having the last laugh now between Cameroun and Ambazonia?

If you feel that same fate won't befall Nigeria if things continue like this then it shows you're not a good student of history.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op): 2:36pm On Jun 05, 2020
Ekwutox:
That's good news.

But op igbos are not going anywhere if biafra is not an Igbo only country.
Of course, Biafra is going to be an all Igbo affair and by that I mean all Igbos from SE and SS. However, we might still consider the option of allowing one or two other ethnic groups that show enough commitment and have a confederation with them where everyone controls their own area.
PoliticsRe: Why Are Nigerians Suddenly Afraid As Ambazonia Gains Independence by proeast(op):
TUANKU:
I know you're a typical nyamiri that did not progress beyond secondary School, that is if you ever attended one so it's easy to get why you post such an ignorant statement.
Gaining independence is not by petty sentiments and playing victim, it requires intellectual planning and unity which you lot lack .
You are free to wallow in your ignorance.
Lol, imagine an almajiri calling someone illiterate, so funny.

Let's get the facts straight. What exactly is making you paranoid?

Cameroun has broken up and part of the country known as Ambazonia is now under UN supervision pending handover to the locals.

White House ordered Paul Biya to withdraw his troops from Ambazonia within 72 hours.

So what exactly is the basis of your argument??

Since you're still in doubt that Nigerian politicians are afraid, I will advise you to watch and see what is going to happen going forward.

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