Christianity Etc › Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by ProfessorPeter(op): 11:05am On Jul 01, 2015 |
lolaredvelvet: I just wish this thread was created when I needed it.. Was gonna do just Traditional and Court because of the reasons uve stated in this post.. the church can be so ridiculously fussy. They've successfully turned what is supposed to be a joyous occasion into a stressful and frustrating process..
But unfortunately for me, I allowed my mum and her sisters bully me into doing an extravagant white wedding.. good thing it was funded by family members .. else I'd be regretting by now.
To be married, all one needs is parental consent/blessing, payment of dowry (if required) and legal documents signed. Too many of us are being bullied into wasting resources all in the name of wedding. thanks. Am not against church wedding or white wedding. Am against the way some churches are asking for pregnancy test, Hiv test etc before they conduct such ceremonies. They don't wed a pregnant sister and when one them is Hiv positive tommiesyn: Scripturally, there's no such thing as "Church wedding" or "White wedding". It is more of a borrowed culture which we are already accustomed to. Meanwhile, Marriage, which is the most important, involves the payment of the Bride price, then, a man will leave his father and mother, so also will a woman, and they twain shall be one flesh. WHILE Wedding is only an event to mark the beginning of the union. It is simply a ceremony without laying excessive emphasis on that. The Bible mentioned "wedding" only in the Matthew and Luke, note that there was no record of blessing attached to it. The blessing of the union is essential to have a representative of God involved and to solemnize the marriage (NOT Wedding) The massive crowd and frivolities are human excesses, which does not dictate the success or failure of the MARRIAGE. Thus, there is a possibility of bringing a Minister to a Mini setting where the intending couples are present, their parents and other invited fellows present, not necessarily a cloud of witnesses. What we call Church Wedding now is extravagant and not in any way moderate. What we now have are budgets of 500,000 and above. Unfortunately, in most cases, our expenses on the "unimportant" wedding supercedes our capacity to run and maintain the Marriage itself. The Bible places importance on Marriage as shown in: John 2:1 - Marriage in Cana. . . Luke 17:27 - Given in marriage, . . 1 Cor 7 - better to marry than to burn. Heb 13:4 - Marriage is honourable in all Rev 19:9 - marriage supper of the Lamb Wedding doesn't necessarily have to involve the 500+ participants, only for a 30 minutes blessing by the Minister, other times are spent on eating and dancing. Wedding can be actualized in a house setting, court or any other suitable environment where the minister is still privileged to bless the Union for 30 minutes. Let your moderation be known unto all men! lolaredvelvet: I just wish this thread was created when I needed it.. Was gonna do just Traditional and Court because of the reasons uve stated in this post.. the church can be so ridiculously fussy. They've successfully turned what is supposed to be a joyous occasion into a stressful and frustrating process..
But unfortunately for me, I allowed my mum and her sisters bully me into doing an extravagant white wedding.. good thing it was funded by family members .. else I'd be regretting by now.
To be married, all one needs is parental consent/blessing, payment of dowry (if required) and legal documents signed. Too many of us are being bullied into wasting resources all in the name of wedding. thanks. Am not against church wedding or white wedding. Am against the way some churches are asking for pregnancy test, Hiv test etc before they conduct such ceremonies. They don't wed a pregnant sister and when one them is Hiv positive |
Christianity Etc › Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by ProfessorPeter(op): 8:25am On Jul 01, 2015 |
Alwaystrue: When the woman is given away, actually, is when you can say a marriage is complete. It can be with or without dowry. Some cultures do not take dowry. I prefer couples who plan to do a church wedding to best do everything same day then such as this wont arise.
As you said, a woman can get pregnant out of wedlock and should be suspended so how does this relate to the couple that you said were suspended by the church because they put to bed less than 9 months after their wedding? So what if the bride was pregnant even before the traditional wedding but the wife did not show on time and the church did not know and they wedded them and 5 months after she delivers, should she and hubby still be suspended? Good church doctrine is to join a man and wife and not man, wife and baby. That is the point.
Like I said, even beyond the giving away by the bride's father at traditional, if they plan to go the white church wedding route and the church expects them to keep themselves pure till after it, they need to abide by it. That is what I am saying. If they can't and feel they are married once the traditional handover is complete then why do a white wedding? We know court has no issue (infact, the court bit is more of a registration of marriage and not the ceremony they have turned it into nowadays).
In all, I understand your view but there are aspects that need to be considered in everything. God bless u. I did church wedding, one d day of my wedding, a misguided pastor asked us to produce pregnancy test. I told him he should ve given us aleast 24 hrs to do so. After a heated debate, i told her that my wife was on her Period. That settled the matter. I have a friend whose wife was bundled to hospital on her wedding day. While we were still in d church dancing. Look at the embarrassment. When the dowry is paid and the parents have handed over to the man. HE IS FREE TO SLEEP WITH HER. As a pastor i will wed any lady who is pregnant after her dowry was paid, and i will suspend any lady that pregnant before paying of dowry |
Politics › Re: Is The Fuel Scarcity Back? by ProfessorPeter(m): 7:02am On Jul 01, 2015 |
kingofdemons: Buhari is a terrorist - Elrufai
Buhari deserves death - Bisi Akande Buhari is brain dead Patience Jonathan Buhari wears pampers Fayose |
Politics › Re: The Cowardly Biafran Posturing As Described By Ipob--the Runaway Tiger. by ProfessorPeter(m): 12:56pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
HopeAtHand: Culled from Ipob
IGBO, HAUSA, YORUBA are different people with different Language, Religion, blood, mentality, culture, food and life-style. We were never one until one British harlot forced us in one cage and gave it the name ZOO (Nigeria). Since then, The TIGER, the GOAT and the SHEEP in the cage are fighting each other and will keep on the fight until freedom is achieved. NOTE; You can't put the Tiger, the Goat and the sheep together and expect them to live peacefully, is either you are gambling with their lives or with their resources.... The TIGER want to be free from the zoo, give him freedom NOW.
# www.ipob.com
So in the Zoo(Nigeria), the Tiger(Igbo) is running away from the Goat(Hausa) and the Sheep(Yoruba) ..This is an insult to wildlife..What an analogy..What will make a TIGER run from domestic animals is what i need Igbos and Biafran activists alike to explain to me..There is more to this than what a rational mind can ponder. tiger must runaway from witchcraft goat and ogbaje sheep. |
Politics › Re: North Korean Head Kim Jung Un Executes Architect Because He Didn’t Like Design by ProfessorPeter(m): 12:44pm On Jun 30, 2015 |
It is high time somebody assassinate this puff puff boy before he finishes everybody |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bvn: Does My Wife Has To Remove Her Hijab? by ProfessorPeter(m): 10:38am On Jun 30, 2015 |
sped1oro: @ Professor pete, i honestly pity your ignorance, it would have been better for you to keep quiet than to just spew balderdash as comment. Mind you, real muslims can never be Boko-Haram. how does the removal of hijab for data capturing stop her from being your wife? |
Politics › Jega Fare Ye Well by ProfessorPeter(op): 10:20am On Jun 30, 2015 |
Prof, Jega fare ye well as you bow out today. We will always remember you 1. GEj will remember you for the infamous card readers. 2.APC will remember you for registering and allowing underage voters to vote in the north. 3. Orubebe will remember you for d reason i don't know. 4. Fayose will remember you for conducting free n fair in Ekiti state 5.PDP will remember you from demoting them from a ruling party to a weak opposition. 5. Tinubu will remember you how you allowed a non Nigerian residing in Kwara state to win a senatorial seat thereby giving him sleepless night. 6. I will remember GEJ for allowing you to operate freely. Farewell prof, |
Politics › Re: Chibok Girls 'fighting For Boko Haram' by ProfessorPeter(m): 9:58am On Jun 30, 2015 |
Where obj's concubine? No protest again?
There is God ooooo |
Christianity Etc › Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by ProfessorPeter(op): 7:48am On Jun 30, 2015 |
Alwaystrue: I think the whole marriage rites should be completed to allow for peace. From time we know the stand of the church on white wedding. It's after it that a couple is expected to consummate their union.
Atimes, people sleep together even without the traditional giving away, get pregnant, rush traditional and expect church to wed them, knowing FULLY WELL that the church frowns at it. They are institutional authorities too (Hebrews 13:17). It is not a must to do white wedding. If you decide to go ahead with a white wedding then obey the rules. It really is simple. The white gown is meant to symbolise purity. I have seen how people talk about brides that wore white yet were heavily pregnant and were being wed by the church. The church is meant to be WITHOUT blame.
If you decide to subject yourself to the church approach to wedding then fulfil the high requirements set by it. Consummate after the wedding or just do traditional and court. A few days or weeks should not be an issue to the couple if they truly abstained. Self-control is a fruit of the Spirit. fornication is sin, that is what the scriptures says. What am saying is that when dowry is paid, the man sleeping with the lady is not fornication. Because dowry validates marriage. Every other activity is optional and should be seen as a biblical doctrine. If a lady is pregnant outside wedlock, the church must suspend her |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bvn: Does My Wife Has To Remove Her Hijab? by ProfessorPeter(m): 7:28am On Jun 30, 2015 |
Na their type dey carry bomb for that hijab |
Politics › Re: Meet The New Chief-Of-Staff, Hamid Ibrahim-Alli by ProfessorPeter(m): 7:05am On Jun 30, 2015 |
shine96: Col Hamid Ali is a down to earth man. Very honest n principled. He will do very well as EFCC boss. I hope President Buhari appoints him into that office. see you life bah? You are here advocating for an old man who is above 60 to be appointed as EFCC chairman while youth like you and i are wasting on the street of Nigeria |
Politics › Re: Oby-ezekwesili-madam-bringbackourgirls-abandons-crusade-lobbies-to-be-minister by ProfessorPeter(m): 6:58am On Jun 30, 2015 |
steffans: Man must wack oo..
The co-founder is now chief of staff in Kaduna state..
Lets wait and see what Oby gets..
Between, have dey stopped looking for the girls? the principal of the school has been pencil down for commissioner. |
Politics › Re: Sahara Reporters:how To Remove Bukola Saraki From Office By The Nuclear Option by ProfessorPeter(m): 6:29am On Jun 30, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: I wasn't even talking about removing him or not removing him, my point is, he has lost relevance in both APC and PDP. No matter what, both party can never put their trust in his dealings. see now. people rate Saraki higher thanTinubu. Ask me why? |
Politics › Re: Sahara Reporters:how To Remove Bukola Saraki From Office By The Nuclear Option by ProfessorPeter(m): 9:43pm On Jun 29, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: I can confidently say that, this Bukola Saraki dude is dead politically in this country. Even if he should defect to PDP, I trust PDP will never for once trust him in his dealings. confident k? Millions of Tinubu dead or alive cannot remove Saraki. I didn't like Saraki but the way,, Tinubu , and yoruba are taking Saraki's election. Make me to like this man. Pls tell Saraki nothing mega by pressing like. |
Politics › Re: Throwback Picture Of Bukola Saraki And His Father In 1960s by ProfessorPeter(m): 5:24pm On Jun 29, 2015 |
Fulani boy wearing Yoruba clothes. Sarakill is your new name ooooo. This picture some people no wan see am cause e dey give them hypertension headache,, hiv syphilis sleepless day. supporter of APC dey morns seriously Your excellency, pls permit me to ask one one question. Are from Cameron? |
Politics › Re: Re:bisi Akande.there Is No Conspiracy Anywhere. by ProfessorPeter(m): 3:52pm On Jun 29, 2015 |
I remember Apostle's prophecy. " Tinubu should not rejoice yet"
ministerial list will shock them |
Politics › Re: Meet The New Chief-Of-Staff, Hamid Ibrahim-Alli by ProfessorPeter(m): 3:35pm On Jun 29, 2015 |
onatisi: ambassadorial appointment to ghana  no na Nigerian ambassador to Pakistan |
Politics › Re: Two Policemen Beating Up A Man This Morning by ProfessorPeter(m): 3:19pm On Jun 29, 2015 |
D driver face resemble yoruba man. Fear full him face |
Politics › Re: Buhari Appoints Hamidu Ali As His Chief-Of-Staff - Sahara Reporters by ProfessorPeter(m): 3:05pm On Jun 29, 2015 |
Northernisation of Aso Rock by Buhari |
Politics › Re: Meet The New Chief-Of-Staff, Hamid Ibrahim-Alli by ProfessorPeter(m): 3:04pm On Jun 29, 2015 |
Northernisation of Aso Rock by Buhari. All the appointment he has made so far, only one person is a yoruba. The rest are his co northerners. God dey |
Politics › Re: Pix Of Saraki When He Was A Nigerian by ProfessorPeter(m): 12:55pm On Jun 29, 2015 |
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Politics › Re: The Conspiracy Against The Yoruba Nation By Northerners By Chief Bisi Akande by ProfessorPeter(m): 11:15am On Jun 29, 2015 |
Yoruba never see anything yet until ministerial list is out and Buhari starts making his appointments. Pls keep complaining. Coming I love hearing it. The book is called The lamentation of Yoruba in APC. |
Business › Re: What Business Can I Start With Just N150,000? by ProfessorPeter(m): 8:51am On Jun 29, 2015 |
dawnomike: simply send me ur email address and I'll send u an E-book that will guide u on how to go about running a mini-importation biz for free.  am interested. Can you include me? If yes. Here is my email. Peterokwong@gmail. Com. God bless u |
Business › Re: What Business Can I Start With Just N150,000? by ProfessorPeter(m): 8:51am On Jun 29, 2015 |
dawnomike: simply send me ur email address and I'll send u an E-book that will guide u on how to go about running a mini-importation biz for free.  am interested. Can you include me? If yes. Here is my email. Peterokwong@gmail. Com |
Christianity Etc › Re: Four Tough Question Muslims Always Ask Christians by ProfessorPeter(m): 8:32am On Jun 29, 2015 |
kheart: Thank you for d kind response, but we Muslims view some stories in d bible as false especially verses that attribtes vices to noble prophets of God.
And about Muhammad mention in the bible Deut 18:15 is use as ref. if Bible is corrupt, don't you think that the proppurrted verses which talk about Muhammad is also corrupt? Why Allah allowed human beings to corrupt bible to be corrupted but preserved few verses pertaining to on Muhammad? Can you show us the original bible so that we compare |
Christianity Etc › Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by ProfessorPeter(op): 8:16am On Jun 29, 2015 |
The reason i raised this issue is to correct the impression that until you do "white wedding" sleeping with your partner is sin. I ve seen how 1. Church stopped " white wedding" because the lady was pregnant before the wedding date. 2. The church suspended the couple because the woman put to bed less than nine month after their wedding. It makes d couple look like a sinners in the eye of God and the people also see then as sinner. CHURCH WEDDING IS NOT SCRIPTURAL. DOWRY VALIDATE BEFORE GOD N MAN, THE REST IS UNNECESSARY |
Politics › Re: Buhari Orders Arrest Of Brother-in-law Over Alleged Extortion by ProfessorPeter(m): 6:23am On Jun 29, 2015 |
Lie, from the pit of APC (Hell) until Buhari parade his inlaw in handcuffs to news man and charge him to court, i wont believe that he will fight kworuption ascaris: APC deceiving the gullibles since 2013. We want to see the said brother in-law in handcuffs before PMB. Ye ye story. |
Politics › Re: We Regret Voting Buhari– South West Leaders by ProfessorPeter(m): 7:19pm On Jun 28, 2015 |
The write up is called t" The lamentations of southwest vol 1"
una never see something until the ministerial list is out |
Politics › Re: NASS Crisis: How I Escaped Abduction — Saraki by ProfessorPeter(m): 7:40am On Jun 28, 2015 |
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Politics › Re: Continue Watching Football With Ur Wife And Die Young Of High B.p by ProfessorPeter(m): 7:21am On Jun 28, 2015 |
I better dey go viewing center go meet noisy chelsea fans than to dey answer dry questions most especially when my team is down |
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Of The Miracles Of The Holy Prophet by ProfessorPeter(m): 7:47pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
One miracle you failed to mention was that Muhammad was to f,,k his 11 wives all at once, caused Allah gave him the strength of 40 men. Me think this miracle. Me i not finish one babe |
Politics › Re: Obj Bombs Saraki! by ProfessorPeter(m): 7:09am On Jun 27, 2015 |
Navigator has spoken.
Obj are you not the one that destroyed PDP?
Check these boys there your boys
Amechi.
Kwankwaso.
Saraki..
Obj should shut up. Saraki must destroy APC by force by fire.
I expect a big fight between you and Atiku because of 2019 |