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Christianity Etc › Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by PROVERBZ(op): 10:34am On Sep 06, 2021
haekymbahd:
Now let's reason this Jesus preached the gospel while on earth he sent disciples to spread the gospel while alive. Jesus himself was sent to the children isreal but he sent his disciples to gentiles all this happened while he was on earth.

What was Jesus mission on earth it was to preach the Gospel nothing more?

Isaiah 61
1 THE SPIRIT of the Lord God is upon me, because the Lord has anointed and qualified me to preach the Gospel of good tidings to the meek, the poor, and afflicted; He has sent me to bind up and heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the [physical and spiritual] captives and the opening of the prison and of the eyes to those who are bound,(A)

2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord [the year of His favor] [a]and the day of vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn


Jesus himself admitted he had completed the assignment given to him by God Almighty while he was not even said to be crucified yet?

John 17
3 And this is eternal life: [it means] to know (to perceive, recognize, become acquainted with, and understand) You, the only true and real God, and [likewise] to know Him, Jesus [as the] Christ (the Anointed One, the Messiah), Whom You have sent.

4 I have glorified You down here on the earth by completing the work that You gave Me to do


I beleive this was what Jesus was actually sent to do and that whosoever beleive him will have eternal life. As Muslims I beleive in Jesus as messiah sent by God and not God Almighty himself.

Paul said if Jesus didn't die on your faith as christians is worthless did Jesus make such claim.

On the issue of crucifixion

Now you would agree with me that Jesus didn't write the gospel himself nor any of the disciples of him. Now the Gospels we have today we have cannonicals and non cannonicals but I will only talk about the cannonicals.

The four cannonicals made the claim that Jesus was crucified obviously Paul mut have also gotten the claim since he himself wasn't a disciple of Jesus while on earth so his claims are based on hearsay.

The earliest cannonical gospel which is Gospel of Mark was written around 70+A.D. and the author claimed he got the messages from various witnesses but couldn't mention any particular name nor document he copied from.

The Gospel in the earliest manuscript ended at Mark 16 verse 8 and it didn't account for the resurrection of Christ while the the latter Gospel does hence the Gospel was said to be fabricated to end at Chapter 16 verse 20 and it now accounts for ressurection of Christ after other latter Gospels had been written.

The Quran claimed crucifixion occured but Jesus himself was not the one crucified but another was made to resemble him that every thing written about crucifixion was mere assumptions was this claim actually absurd..

Allah SWT said:

"And [for] their saying, Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah. And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 157)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com



Now if we truly look at the event of crucifiction you will realize that 2 individual s name Jesus emerged Jesus Christ and Jesus son of the father (Barabbas) was that Just a coincidence.

Barabbas means son of the father

Mathew 27
16 And at that time they had a notorious prisoner whose name was Jesus Barabbas.

17 So when they had assembled for this purpose, Pilate said to them, Whom do you want me to set free for you, Jesus Barabbas (son of the father), or Jesus Who is called Christ?

20 But the chief priests and the elders prevailed on the people to ask for Barabbas, and put Jesus to death.

21 Again the governor said to them, Which of the two do you wish me to release for you? And they said, Barabbas!

22 Pilate said to them, Then what shall I do with Jesus Who is called Christ?

23 They all replied, Let Him be crucified! And he said, Why? What has He done that is evil? But they shouted all the louder, Let Him be crucified!



Whereas before this event Jesus himself had prayed to the father to save but no one knew if the father would save him or not according to the cannonical God didn't save Jesus but Quran said God saved him is that absurd to hear.

Mathew 26
38 Then He said to them, My soul is very sad and deeply grieved, so that [l]I am almost dying of sorrow. Stay here and keep awake and keep watch with Me.

39 And going a little farther, He threw Himself upon the ground on His face and prayed saying, My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass away from Me; nevertheless, not what I will [not what I desire], but as You will and desire.


Now that the Quran said another was crucified in place of Jesus it now leads us to the question.

Who was crucified was it Jesus Christ or Jesus son of the father (Barabbas) and which is the real Jesus was it just a coincidence that they came up with the same name?

Now it should be clear that not even the Jews crucified Jesus he was handed over to the Romans whom he did not even offend nor knew him physically it was even the thief named Barabbas that offended the Romans why would they even want messiah crucified in place of the thief?


If crucifiction is essential to Christianity as Paul claims why would Jesus even pray to the father to save him in the first place.


I think what we should focus on is what is the actual message Jesus preached
my bro I'm not even going to lie to you. I did not read what u have put up. I only browsed through it.

All of islams claims sound stupid to me. Now Paul didn not only write fake gospels but he also edited the accounts of john, Peter, etc

You need to know Barabbas was no theif or ordinary criminal. Barrabas was not a thief, he was a zealot. If u knew who the zealots where at the time you would understand why the Jews would pick him over Jesus Christ.

Secondly I doubt that the Romans would crucify publicly somebody like Barrabas and the Jews who he was fighting for would not recognise him.

If Jesus Christ needed to be saved he would have fleed the city before he was captured. If it was not God's will to die on the cross he would have fled. Before his arrest he talked about betrayal he prepared for death by having the last supper.
And even when they tried to arrest him he did not resist. Even when his follower, Peter, cut of someone's eyes during the arrest he rebuked him and did not make a run for it.

Christianity says he was supposed to die and that was the will of God.

U and islam claim that it was not God's will.

So why didn't he escape?? His arrest was not a suprise.
Nairaland General › Looking Back At The Rich Yoruba History Of Jos North In Plateau State. by PROVERBZ(op): 8:50am On Sep 06, 2021
Even tho it does not seem like it anymore, but there used to be a small flourishing Yoruba community right at the center of Jos north.
Yoruba people started immigrating to Jos north the capital of plateau state as far back as the 1840s, Way back. Even before Igbo people started moving from the south east to Jos.

Of course they flourished, were successful. A little investigation by me and I was able to discover that a number of the early modern buildings in the heart of the city (around ahmadu Bello way, terminus) were and are still owned by Yoruba people whoses ancestors built them. For those of you who live in Jos north you would agree with me that that area serves as the central business district of the city.

So the question that should be asked that no one is asking right now is: Why does it seem like there weren't so many Yoruba people in the city of Jos like it used to be now adays? And the answer takes us back to November of the year 2008.

So what happened? I'm going to give detailed analysis of what happened for those. Who don't already know. Just leave a comment of follow the thread so that u get notified when I do.
Christianity Etc › Re: Isah In The Quran Is Not The Same Person As Jesus Christ. by PROVERBZ(op): 7:36am On Sep 06, 2021
haekymbahd:
I know the Bible is the only thing you beleive in of what essence is me quoting the Quran for you when you don't beleive it.

Jesus was a messenger sent by the Almighty and he himself had completed the assignment given to him by God Almighty. Hence this was the summary of his teaching

John 17
3 And this is eternal life: [it means] to know (to perceive, recognize, become acquainted with, and understand) You, the only true and real God, and [likewise] to know Him, Jesus [as the] Christ (the Anointed One, the Messiah), Whom You have sent.

4 I have glorified You down here on the earth by completing the work that You gave Me to do



How many of the Jewish christians whom he was persecuting who knew Jesus accepted Paul. They were called Nazarenes (ebionites) why do you think Paul went to a non isrealite (Antioch)nation to convert gentiles who didn't know anything about Jesus and change the name to Christianity to disaccociate from the Jewish christians. Hence there are little or no christians in isreal till date.

Jesus had completed his assignment and had sent disciples so who sent Paul a persecutor of Jewish christians who did not even meet Jesus alive and claiming to know more than the Jewish christians..


Any message that differ from the above John 17:3-4 is the message of the Antichrist...

Prophet isah was sent by God Almighty while Jesus sent himself hence calling himself God Almighty to his followers. So Muslims must make sure Islam is not associated with christianity. Jesus is not God Almighty rather he was sent by God Almighty...
where are the supposed Jewish Christians that are the real Muslims according to you?

My problem with arguing with Muslims is that they are not even certain of their claims.

Ok u are of the Muslims school of thought that the problem is from Paul, that means that Peter, John , Luke, Matthew etc were legit. Ok my questions is: islam said Jesus was not curicified instead he was replaced by a look alike and went somewhere without coming out for the rest of his life. But theses people say he was crucified.

Are they also telling lies.

Paul did exactly what Christians were asked to do and if u follow the stories of the other disciples you would know that they did the same thing. The main command to Christian is called the great commission by chrsit himself.

Which Iw to go to the gentiles and preach.
Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 5:46pm On Sep 05, 2021
My god. Running threads like this are actually a big commitment. I'm no longer downloading the pictures form instagram, I will screenshot and crop. So the quality of the pictures might reduce.

This it racheal_doll on insta and friend

Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by PROVERBZ(m): 4:34pm On Sep 04, 2021
Schemerkhiz:
Nigeria name 23-woman provisional list for tournament



Head Coach Randy Waldrum has named a 23-woman provisional list for the maiden edition of the Aisha Buhari Invitational Women’s Tournament, taking place in the City of Lagos, 13th – 21st of this month.



The list includes first choice goalkeeper Chiamaka, defenders Onome Ebi and Osinachi Ohale, midfielders Ngozi Okobi-Okeoghene and forwards Asisat Oshoala, Francisca Ordega and Rasheedat Ajibade.



THE FULL LIST



Goalkeepers: Tochukwu Oluehi (Maccabi Kishronot Hadera, Israel); Chiamaka Nnadozie (Paris FC, France); Yewande Balogun (California Storm, USA)



Defenders: Onome Ebi (Minsk FC, Belarus); Glory Ogbonna (Umea FC, Sweden); Osinachi Ohale (Deportivo Alaves, Spain); Faith Ikidi (Pitea DFF, Sweden); Michelle Alozie (Houston Dash, USA); Akudo Ogbonna (Edo Queens); Oluwatosin Demehin (Rivers Angels)



Midfielders: Rita Chikwelu (Madrid CFF, Spain); Ngozi Okobi-Okeoghene (Eskilstuna United, Sweden); Tony Payne (Sevilla FC, Spain); Regina Otu (Minsk FC, Belarus); Goodness Onyebuchi (Edo Queens); Joy Bokiri (AIK Sweden FC, Sweden)



Forwards: Asisat Oshoala (FC Barcelona, Spain); Rasheedat Ajibade (Atletico Madrid, Spain); Francisca Ordega (CSKA Moscow, Russia); Gift Monday (FC Robo Queens); Uchenna Kanu (Linkopings FC, Sweden); Desire Oparanozie (Dijon FC, France); Esther Okoronkwo (Saint Etienne, France)
Ashley plumptre wasn't invited or she didn't want to play??
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by PROVERBZ(m): 6:59pm On Sep 01, 2021
Danielnino00:
List some of such platforms for me abeg..
search operation strike Nigeria on facebook. They created a a page for it.

Then search journalist t Wesley and also search Wesley sports
And bleacher lib
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 1:35pm On Sep 01, 2021
Appisko:
Nigga u dumb as Bleep grin grin who the hell give a fvck what u think
why are I angry ??
I was kind to give Ghana parasite status. Don't angry me before I remove Ghana and put Cameroon there they are actually making good entertainment over there.
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 1:07pm On Sep 01, 2021
Shma2020:
Bro. It should be Nigeria, SA, Kenya then Ghana. Nigeria got numbers and they have a well known entertainment brand.
it's always funny when u see Kenyans and south Africans arguing about who comes after Nigeria interns of entertain ment and they include them selves.

Nigeria
Egypt
Tanzania
South Africa
Ghana: because it sucks from the Nigeria entertainment industry
This is the official list:
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 11:27am On Sep 01, 2021
Hmd(heavy machinery dealership)
Warehouse nearing completion and it seems they have moved in. They already sampled there machineries.

Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 11:07am On Sep 01, 2021
Sana industries factory.
They would be making chemicals that are useful in the construction industry like concrete hardners, pigments, damp proof chemicals etc

Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 10:52am On Sep 01, 2021
Look at this.
Alaro city updates.

starium factory by bua group Nigeria.
The middle part is being built currently. It's the one that looks irregular and elevated. The two at both sides are ware houses.

Guys u have to manage this pictures I know they aren't high quality I had to screen shot an unclear video and crop the pictures.

Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 10:48am On Sep 01, 2021
Vlain:
What is here to get to
my bro that's a gigantic factory with in inland dry port. We still have everything to get to.

This industrial park is for heavy manufacturing what you have at alaro and tatu are for light manufacturing like biscuits, soap etc.
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 10:03am On Sep 01, 2021
My god!! I thought tatu city a s alaro city were beautiful ideas. Today this popped up on my screen it's in China mehn !!!!!!


I guess we will all get there someday

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by PROVERBZ(m): 9:19am On Sep 01, 2021
TheSuperNerd:
Super Eagles in Camp: Countdown to Liberia game

Pics showing new kid in the team, Kingsley Dogo Michael. cool
the pitch is not bad at all. The boots are not sinking into it.
Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 8:24pm On Aug 31, 2021
Oghene Karo kirachana
Nigeria's sweet heart

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 12:36pm On Aug 31, 2021
The twin
Preshy royalty on Instagram

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 12:30pm On Aug 31, 2021
Pweety_prisca on Instagram
She is a twin. I'm posting the twin right after her

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 12:19pm On Aug 31, 2021
Muslim girls...
Mobolaji nafisat

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 11:59am On Aug 31, 2021
LeSudAfricaine:
Are these girls all Nigerians based? I mean do they all reside in Nigeria? We don't want Nigerian Americans, British Nigerians etc. Girls from the South African thread are all from SA, if they are in not they either come from SA. We want to see girls from Edo, Jos, Calabar etc those places , it gives us a better idea of the girls that side. Let's make that a criteria.
yes all off them.
Even tho there are alot of Nigerian baddies mom and dad that reside in other countries, I've chosen to ignore.

But if there is a Nigerian girl mixed with what ever that lives in Nigeria I'm going to post it.

Suzan pwajok

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 8:52pm On Aug 30, 2021
Chisom okeke

All the girls I feature, I make sure to verify if they live in Nigeria or at least spend most time here.

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 8:47pm On Aug 30, 2021
Theresa ushie

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 8:44pm On Aug 30, 2021
Guys I'm purposely trying to avoid booty.
I'm that kind of man (faceguy)
But if y'all want to see some booty, Nigerian girls gat them too�� just say the word.

Esther iwuh

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 8:39pm On Aug 30, 2021
I don't know her name but u can find her on Instagram by searching blac caramel

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 8:32pm On Aug 30, 2021
Desola

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 8:27pm On Aug 30, 2021
Linda igwe

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 8:15pm On Aug 30, 2021
Rose nkiru

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 8:07pm On Aug 30, 2021
Malaiyka Micheal

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 8:03pm On Aug 30, 2021
Priscilla ojo

Nairaland General › Re: Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 7:58pm On Aug 30, 2021
Diana eneje

Nairaland General › Beautiful Nigerian Girls Thread. by PROVERBZ(op): 7:57pm On Aug 30, 2021
First of all shout out to irongalaxy man has been holding it down at the beautiful south African girls thread where I go the Inspiration to do this thread.
https://www.nairaland.com/2384265/beautiful-south-african-girls
I'm going to dedicate time and resources to bring you some many beauties from nigeria.

I'm going to tag a few people I saw that commented the the first thread very randomly. I just want yall to follow the thread, contribute and be entertained.

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Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 6:23pm On Aug 30, 2021
Vlain:
We are coming up very fast.nollywood needs to get in partnership with big production houses like Warner bros, universal pictures and the likes for adequate funding and global marketing to a wider audience. I see that happening very soon.I mean we were the first to give africa access right to have their movie on Netflix. Movies here are mostly self funded and that the problem. Also we need to improve in the quality of stories we tell not the same ol’ crap. And I have seen this changes over the years,but we can only hope for more as that is not enough.I hope to see the quality of the story greatly revolutionized.African have our stories and we can interpret and tell them in a world class standard not what befit the average local Nigerian or African.

For SA ,obviously ur production is better.because u get to work with this global production houses.but my qualms with tall is that you do t stay true to ur African story(at least the ones I have wat he’d happens to go this way) .you try so hard to sound,act and behave Hollywood that u fail so badly at it. It’s hard to connect with ur stories,save for maybe those very few ones they show on African magic. Take Queen soon for example,it’s was a charade and I am not going to lie. I remember I could barely go past the 3rd episode and I gave up. The accent,mannerisms,body movement was wack.all this was in a bid to sound and look so Hollywood and u lost touch of ur African heritage and still couldn’t represent the American culture as well.
same story with me and blood and water or is it sand.
I've watched only a few south African stories and the ones I really liked where Mr bones, seriosulsy single and sarafina.
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 6:01pm On Aug 30, 2021
AfriqueDuZuid:
Nollywood has potential, if yall put more money into production, and make bigger budget films
nollywood is already big it's not always about budget.
Lots of Caribbean kids grew up on nollywood, even so many black British that are not necessarily Nigerians.
Nigeria has influence.
I always say this to people in the African football circle. I say 'afrhcan football continental tournaments like CAF champions league and confederations cup are relatively unknown outside of Africa because Nigeria is not doing well in that aspect'

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