₦airaland Forum

Chibuzoc:
Are u saying that oduduwa is an ape?? I don de fear o

are you blind that you can not read or are dumb that you cannot comprehend.

ritababe:
so far so good he's a bini man.

I am angry at you for your ignorance and stiffness to this issue but then what did I expect you Benin dudes are known for your stiffness.
by the way you are gorgeous and I will take a bow out of this argument by following you.

ritababe:
hahahahaha, you are twisting it bro, your first king is a bini, it doesnt matter wether he was banish or not, so far was he born in bini and he has the blood of bini he remain one of us, case close.

he was not the first king he was our progenitor and there fore the first Yoruba man to ever exist, he was more than some Benin ethnicity he was the creator of the Yoruba dynasty. just like the first human being will have been human and not an ape irrespective of the fact that he came from apes.

Jesusloveyou:
oyo empire but not yoruba empire, or did oyo empire extend to benin empire? Moreove is oyo empire d same as ile ife empire? As Ooni of ife said his kingdom extend to benin empire

Oyo empire is the name for the Yoruba empire where every Yoruba kingdom relied on the military prowess of the alafin of Oyo's kingdom, get your facts straight.

YoruBadGoon:
Don't mind these Bini fools. Some even said the Oba of Bini will use some voodoo on Ooni of Ife - hysterical. How are you going to use the orishas you borrowed against the original custodian of the orishas? If and when the Ooni visits what's left of the relics of the small ancient kingdom that later became overrated due to fables - the Oba of Bini has to bow down to his progenitor.

Everything about bini was borrowed from Yorubas. They borrowed the Oba dynasty. Borrowed Yoruba orishas. Borrowed knowledge of artworks from Yorubas. Borrowed idea of building moats from Ijebus etc.. They borrowed almost everything, yet they make noise everywhere.

very correct
omo "odu-to-da-iwa" ni mi

ritababe:
Which kind stop being a benin man, if he stop being a benin man why did he send his son?

cause he took pity on them because of the prophecy he was told of the doom and tragedy about to befall them if he or his kin did not rule benin.

ritababe:
guy is very relevant, ur first king is a bini man thus when bini people call him back and he refuse to come theryby sending his son to rule, so far this story is true Oba of Benin is the strongest, prove me wrong am listening.

the moment he was banished he stopped being a Benin man and the moment the Yoruba's accepted him he started being a Yoruba man, very similar to the Anglo Saxons who rule the celts in united kingdom that is the British royal family who are Germanic and their British subjects who are Celts,Scottish,Wales and Irish, but that does not mean united kingdom is ruled by Germany or Germans for they are British by all accord having lived there also for centuries like oduduwas kins have.

brownlord:
So you mean, prior to oduduwa descending from heaven the entire Yoruba race had no king/ruler?

we had but they were disparate and numerous ruling over numerous minute territories (town) but he united them all, and that is while till today there are numerous Yoruba kings heading numerous towns in the southwest.

AreaFada2:
The whole Bible story began to be written only after the Egypt educated Moses did so. Any surprise?

The very similarity between Egyptian creation, Horus & Osiris & Bible stories is more than coincidence.

I studied the Bible under some of the best theologians/eschatologists of this age. Including the most senior Jewish Rabbi in the country where I live.

We Africans take everything literally, as though we don't digest what we read.

very true every real student of Jewish history knows they ripped off several ideas from the Egyptians and all other semitic ethnicity, they were the least civilized semitic group before moses came along, even his commandments were already being utilized by other semitic ethnicities before god conveniently showed it to him

brownlord:
And how did he know Benin was not civilized as Oyo since he was never there?

One question

Do you believe Ododuwa fell from sky with a bag of soil in his hand that is spread across the face of the earth today? I need your sincere answer

that is our mythical origin just like the Jews have their, Abraham came from present day Iran yet nobody say he was an Iranian, for he was nothing but the progenitor of the Jews.

brownlord:
And how did he know Benin was not civilized as Oyo since he was never there?

One question

Do you believe Ododuwa fell from sky with a bag of soil in his hand that is spread across the face of the earth today? I need your sincere answer

that is our mythical origin just like the Jews have their, Abraham came from present day Iran by t nobody say he was an Iranian, for he was nothing but the progenitor of the Jews.

ritababe:
your first kind is a bini man true or false?

he was our progenitor, our father, where he came from was irrelevant what you are trying to infer is like me telling Europeans they are Africans because they came from Africa.

AreaFada2:
But religion is mind control technique before na.

In my local Anglican church, if not for Afro-Caribbean immigrants, it would have turned club house since. We have less than 10% whites attending it.

Except maybe USA, whites have long moved on from religion.

true sha
I thought you were a religious dude being hypocritical about the Yoruba religion as nothing but mythological while believing your religion was factual, but I can a see that I was wrong about you, my sincere apologies.

AreaFada2:
But religion is mind control technique before na.

In my local Anglican church, if not for Afro-Caribbean immigrants, it would have turned club house since. We have less than 10% whites attending it.

Except maybe USA, whites have long moved on from religion.

true sha
I thought you were a religious dude being hypocritical about the Yoruba's religion as mythical while believing in yours as real, but I can now see you are not like that, my sincere apologies.

ritababe:
really?

yes China
check it out on your own time, I mean our history is practically the only history that was not successfully cleared out by the slavemasters , the only history and tradition that survived in the Americas, our language is spoken all over there, the numo ero head of the Cuban "STATE CHURCH" is one of our son considering he came to ile life to prostrate to the ooni of ife, same with Brazil where we have kings ruling regions. " WE ARE FAR AHEAD OF YOU".

brownlord:
Who said that?

he did by not going along with them and rather sending his son to them.

...
1).Front view
2).None
3).Small tissues from my liver is the most I can offer.
4).Stun gun
5).From the bed.
6).Human
7).I have no clue
8}. I would not

AreaFada2:
My brother, you wonder how impeccably educated people like Yoruba simply discard science and logic to cling to mythical stuff like someone turning into a river. Very amusing I tell ya.

the same with the genus IQ Jews and European Christians clinging to God creating heaven and earth, and the Christians clinging to Jesus walking on water.

ritababe:
exactly, they know how to start war and when the war start they start crying for help.

we Yoruba's are suyalysing the Nupes and not the other way around, we were the ones that won the civil war for this country with our superior military tactics the only ones to have ever put the Fulani invaders in their place.

brownlord:
He said what?

I said he was more interested in overseeing the affairs of the civilized Oyo empire than the Benin empire.

Jesusloveyou:
a simple question to settle dis rift,- before dividing d country into region then state, who was d head of d empire, - benin kingdom(empire) and yoruba kingdom or empire, we are only aware of benin kingdom,nothing like yoruba kingdom, benin kingdom extende from ondo to onitsha, and is because of sharing into region and state that reduce d benin empire, in Ooni of ife view- because benin were group into western region that makes he think benin is under yoruba empire, for ur information we only had benin kingdom which extend to lagos and cotonou even togo, d president of togo bears bini name

the president of Benin republic bears a Yoruba name and is a Yoruba man, there are Yoruba kings in Benin republic, and there are far more Yoruba's in Togo than there are Benin's there I.e adebayo the Togolese striker.

brownlord:
Izoduwa I know, oduduwa I know not

what difference does that make he chose the Oyo empire to rule over and sent his son to rule over the Benin empire

Jesusloveyou:
a simple question to settle dis rift,- before dividing d country into region then state, who was d head of d empire, - benin kingdom(empire) and yoruba kingdom or empire, we are only aware of benin kingdom,nothing like yoruba kingdom, benin kingdom extende from ondo to onitsha, and is because of sharing into region and state that reduce d benin empire, in Ooni of ife view- because benin were group into western region that makes he think benin is under yoruba empire, for ur information we only had benin kingdom which extend to lagos and cotonou even togo, d president of togo bears bini name

check out the "Oyo empire" before spewing your ignorance.

brownlord:
metal what?

So you rather believe oduduwa Fell from heaven/sky with a bag of soil that's spread across the face of the earth than he was a prince in Benin who got banished and wandered into the forest, right?


Was earth without form and void, water everywhere and the inhabitant lived like fish before oduduwa came and transformed everyone to human?

Why not think along the line, that the bini prince got banished from Benin and went into the forest, discovered by Yorubas and then regarded him as God sent and made him king than they tales of how he felt from sky with soil and all trash you are fed with.

As a child, there was always a saying that "Oba owns the land from here to oversea" I kept wondering in my ignorance then how it was possible. It got to a stage before I said to myself what they actually met was in every country, state or town was first ruled by an Oba before other forms of government was introduced.

oduduwa falling from sky and other stories you are fed with that made you believe he's descendant was sent to Benin doesn't make sense any sane person than a prince banished from Benin and found in another region and was regarded as god sent since and then made oba

dude what did I say and what are you saying, I said you learnt metal works from us, check out for yourself the head of ice bronze work which predated any metal works in Benin.

lovings:
Very soon the Yorubas will also claim Calabar, Asaba, Uyo, Onitsha, Agbor, Ekot Ekpene, Opobo, Port Harcourt, and Bonny or even some part of Cameroun as expansive Yoruba kingdom.


Yorubas do not only have hate and foolishness in abundance, they have greed and fear as well.

Bini kingdom made it clear that they are not part of yorubaland rather that the Yoruba settlers borrowed their word "Oba" and some of their cultures.

Benin's are not part of the Yoruba land, but they are part of the oduduwa ( odu-to-da-iwa) dynasty; which created the Yoruba race.

omoseth:
It seems the Ooni really wants to steer up controversy at this early stage of his reign. I was really expecting him to have refrained from joining issues. Edo ne mose! A Land where Kings are born and not made#Proudofmyrootandculture

Oba gha okpere..Iseeee!

you learnt metal works from us.

Analysiscorner:
Exactly, my dear! In Igbo traditional society, there is no adult that frowns at a widow having a lover in her late husband's home. Rather, many atimes, they encourage her to stay and bear children for the husband.
It is only adolescents who are immature that go to poke nose on the affairs of such widow and her lover.

in Yoruba tradition it is disgusting.

[quote author=Pidggin post=42806886][/quote]what's that pidggin? I wasn't talking to you, I would never diss my Nigerian sisters

sevule:
[size=13pt]Most sensible answer BY FAR!![/size]
I definitely don't support sex outside marriage but last time I checked the woman is a widow!!!
What she does and who she does it with is strictly her business as her husband is dead.
And why would the step son keep saying that it is his father's house? At 41, shouldn't he either be living in his own house or building his house?
?

Its his fathers house and in an African culture your father's house is yours.

SemuhleB:
**** How is the step mother whoring around? Is she still married? Is she having sex with multiple men? She is single and having a boyfriend is allowed as she is not cheating. That house is also her house so it also belongs to her. So must she go and do it outside or do it in a hotel for the rest of her life? So all those men who remarried new wives or in relationships should also respect their deceased wife by never spending time with them at their own house? Surely you are not this moronic. I am suspicious about the son in law. I won't be surprised that he has the hoohah for his step mother and that's why he was so against the relationship and attacked the guy. He could have spoken to his mother in law sincerely about it but he decided to kill instead. I mean if you stab someone in the head what did he expect would happen

your supporting the bi&&tch because you are birds of a feather, damn you Sa girls are wh&&&res.
How can she bring another lover to her late husband's house, knowing fully well that his son her step-son lives there, that was very disrespectful of her. Considering the possibility that the mans family probably just tolerated her seeing as she was not their mother, and the house definitely belongs to the mans children she definitely is a LovePeddler.

googlepikin:
smh

stfu dude that is yabatech gate, and not some office.

Clone2020:
You can do the opposite of these and still not succeed. Success is also 10% luck.

what are you saying
tho you might not succeed but at least you should try and be optimistic as well as persistent.