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When they come and perform the miracle, you will be the first to run to this forum and scream that it is fake
Human beings cannot be satisfied

haryorbarmie83:
You guys should come and perform miracles on covid 19 and allow the doctors face other ailments.

Abeg tell dem
It baffles me that Doctors that suppose to know more especially diagnostic doctors, are all playing to the gallery
So sad

iSlayer2:
I read it all.

This disease shows traits of a lab developed biological weapon.

The problem is not with the 5G network as it were
It was mismanaged and allowed to become a menace (radiation effect) just because they want mankind to have the vaccine

somehow:
do you know lesotho has been using 5gnetwork
since 2018

Keep deceiving yourself
Don't come here with those fingers typing had I know?
Although, love is a beautiful thing

Ilamina:


You are so fine and awesome

So strong and hard-working

So nice

Words cannot express how nice, you have have been to me

Go ahead and explain
Illuminati has taken his soul
others are on the waiting list

skedman:
It can happen to anybody
A parked long trailer on a busy road at night without a c caution nor guide to indicate that the long trailer is faulty or not in a motion
It was parked by the police because it was directly in front of the police station

Beside it was parked at the extreme sharp corner along moshalasi mushin road

There is no self-made Billionaire in Nigeria
All of them even so call Africa's richest man are beneficiaries of the failed system
Ask Donald Trump, he would tell you

This is all we have to offer
Simply because, corruption has taken the front seat, we no get back, hips etc
In addition, most of dem use either their kpekus power or Political who-I-know to get there.

daddytime:
Are those Nigeria's finest, if yes, I'm sorry to say, the Ghanaian babes are hotter and won hands down.

Check out their front and back plus hips, our babes dem resemble our war against COVID.

I'm not impressed at all.

Op, please look for better flattering pics of our service women.

No matter how good you can stroke, a girl will always look for the guy that can give her head countlessly.
Not just head, also, spend time on their bodies to set them on fire
I am proudly one,
That's why the ladies love me

Ok o
Teach us then

bestabigaelever:
And how did u know I'm not wet, check your 'fact' again

Don't take it personally
To me, the older the better
See it from a sarcastic vista

purples25:
Even with what he has to say, real life is different. To hell with him and all other evil guys that put down a set of women for their age. They are thirty, are they no longer useful? They haven't gotten old, some ppl said they are useless, nobody should marry them, these guys have literally dug out graves for them. Later, these idiots will come out and be calling each other '30 years old young men, just thirty' May God punish them for these heartless words.

Shouldn't the office be fumigated before entry?
Men without conscience rule while Bubu looks.....so sad

Don't blame him
What do you expect when everything is in a lockdown including his brain

purples25:
So your brilliant self could only come up with an article about 30 year old women. Surely, this is proof that you will go far in life. Of all the things to focus on......no, you will surely go far in life.

He wan form bigman for sickness?
You neva see something. I pray he gets well

Really,
I wan learn
How is it done

starbuck:
Lock your pussy during sex using kegels �‍♀️�‍♀️

No be lie
Lockdown effect

uniqueama1:
All na lockdown cause am. The mind is filled up with too many things at he same time this period.

How you take know?
The fact that you were not wet and had pains when penetrated does not mean you are tight

bestabigaelever:
Why would I need to lock my pussy during sex
I'm tight

The same way Chinese were trying to test run 5G in Wuhan then, it cast to a virus called corona
The natural sun has not been harnessed to a bit yet we are creating another one.
Before you know it, another virus will come then , only God know what will happen his time.......

Will you blame them
When the young men bleep hell out of their kpekus while the older ones are soft and cannot go more than 1 round?
Most young girls lack TLC (TOTAL LACK OF CARE) so they need TLC (TENDER LOVING CARE) of their bodies

Rapmoney:
There's always a reward for it. Especially, those little girls, mostly between 17 - 23. They will comfortably lick the navels of potbellied grand daddies!

When you allowed Chinese in and we said NO
This is what we are getting
Common sense, ever since these Chinese came the figures have been increasing abi?
I laff in malawi

Abeg ooooo
I like you as you dey
Banana fall on you

ExAngel007:
so una want me to be lesbian

That's why I like you
You no dey carry last for dat matter

ExAngel007:
na u sabi ooo

Na this kind thing dem dey see you
See as you quickly say, share
If na woman matter, you go quiet
You like dat thing

ExAngel007:
lalasticlala, dominique, Sissy3 please share

I never forsook anybody
I am on the part of a robust academic debate/deliberation
I still believe there is a missing link which I want us to fill?

TAO11:
Provide only one --- just one --- shred of evidence (academic, expert submission, scholarly statement, or archaeological result, etc.) to back up any single one of the many clams in your comment above, I challenge you.

Wake up me up only when you're able to help yourself, otherwise your comments (I mean your lies) amount to nothing but your usual audio rants.

I battered your image here on Nairaland so much that everyone is now beyond convinced that you are a Janus-faced fatuous deluded liar.

You are only struggling to salvage whatever pieces is left of your shattered image.

Well, people's mind have been made up on you --- including pusyiter who, on the basis of how badly I exposed you yesterday, forsook you and fled.

You have a point

samuk:

Ibn Battuta in the early and mid1300s documented on "Yufi" just like the Portuguese in the late 1400s documented on "Benin"

Except the Ufi in reference was in Zimbabwe, southern Africa. The description of the place on the referenced document presented as evidence shows the place to be southern Africa. River Nile doesn't runs through Nigeria.

If there was another Ufi in Nigeria, it was a myth not the one referenced.

This only lends further credence to Ife/Ogane/Ufi as being myth.

I think we should be more scholastical in our approach rather than playing to the gallery of smear criticism
Your references are valid but am still trying to see the gap in literature viz-a-viz your findings?
Lets make more references pls.....

TAO11:
Yes, Ife has been documented into writings by the most travelled explorer of all time --- the Arab Ibn Battuta --- for about a century before Benin will ever get noticed by some Europeans who were seeking a route to Asia through West Africa.

Ibn Battuta in the early and mid1300s documented on "Yufi" just like the Portuguese in the late 1400s documented on "Benin"

The difference is that we did not timidly accept the brown man's mis-rendering of "Ufe/Ife" as "Yufi", unlike the Edo people who timidly accepted the white man's misrendering of "Ubini/Ibini" as "Benin".

Moreover, it is not skin tone which dictates our history. I am not sure the Binis can say the same considering how they sheepishly accepted the mis-rendering "Benin".

However, I know of a "white" missionary, David Hinderer documenting on Ife, et al. in the 1850s. Leo Frobenius in 1910.

[These are just by the way though since y'all want to see a "white man" in the picture. Hence, debunking samuk's myth of "1930/40"]

See the attachment below for the scholarly identification of Ibn Battuta's Yufi:


Reference:
J. E. G. Sutton: "Ibn Battuta's Yufi - Bronze and Gold in Mid-Iron-Age Africa", Transafrican Journal of History, Vol. 10, No. 1/2 (1981), p.160.

That is what the Minister of Finance supposedly said

fearless247:
And how did they come up with such conclusion?

Ok
Good research question
Also, was there any trace to Ife relations with the international communities (Whitemen)

samuk:
Before the little distractions. I am still waiting for the answers to the below questions. If the guy wants to know more about Benin/Ife relationship there are enough material on the internet for him to read.

Back to where we stop......

In stead of all these grammars and copying and paste of irrelevant documents.

All you should do is to cite just one single instance where the name Oduduwa, Ife and Ooni were specifically mentioned in Benin history between 1480 to 1897.

There are thousands of pages of Benin history mentioning various tribes spanning the first four hundred years and no mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Ooni. It's like writing everything about yourself and forget to mention the name of your father, town you or your father comes from, it's even worse if you have do this writing repeatedly for four hundred years without revealing these vital information about yourself.

Don't tell me how historians dug up some stones in Ife and link it to Benin.

My question is why was Ife, Oduduwa and Ooni not mentioned in specific terms or by names in Benin history between 1480 to 1897 the way other places were mentioned, even other Yoruba tribes and towns were mentioned.

Well, names can be pronounced differently based on the accent of the people thus, conscripted as such
For instance a yoruba man pronounces 'Champion' as 'sampion' this does not remove the fact that he refers to one thing, but pronounced as another.
Another instance is the spelling of the tribe 'Ibo' by the Whiteman instead of 'Igbo'
Same can be said of Oduduwa to be Izoduwa, Idoduwa etc.....
Lets go to the next research question which is: Oduduwa's origin and Children?

TAO11:
Notice that he didn't give thw meaning of the name "Oduduwa".

That's simply because the name "Oduduwa" does not exist in Edo language.

He instead gave a different word "Izoduwa". Don't be deceived. He his very cunning. You ask for "Oduduwa". Lol.

Moreover, The "Izoduwa" character has been debunked by historians as a deliberately unauthentic, pseudohistorical, and apocryphal character.

I can provide you evidence for this debunking by historians.

Having known the meaning of Oduduwa in Benin and yoruba dialects, the question is, where did he originate from?
Thereafter, who are his children?

Good one
Hmmmm, sounds interesting

TAO11:
Notice how he quickly hijacked your questions, but without answering it, quickly attempted to trivialize it by turning it into a joke.

You know why he did that?

He did that because he knows that Oduduwa is not an Edo word and therefore does not have any meaning in Edo language.

He did that because because I already trashed his Mecca and heaven straw-clutching and face-saving distraction here:


Now to answer your question. I will break it down to its pieces so every component is clear.

"Oduduwa".

Breaking this into its component parts and words that make it up.

Odu t'o du uwa!

So taking this components one after another:

"Odu" is the Yoruba word which is, for instance, seen in one attribute of God in Yoruba language, viz. "Olodumare".

"Odu" therefore literally means: "fullness", "totality", "wholesome", or "power".

"t'o" refers literally and simply to the pronoun "who".

"du" here refers literally and simply to the verb "contest".

"Uwa" here refers literally to "grandeur", "honour", "glory".

I know this particularly ancient Yoruba word because I am very familiar with one of the few Yoruba dialects that still preserves it till date.

There we see names of noble families till date like: (A)tewogbuwa (One who has honour, grandeur, and glory gently placed in his hands); (A)gbelegbuwa (One to whom honour, grandeur, and glory came to meet at home); etc.

In an Ijebu community in Lagos with which I am very familiar, during some annual ritual festival, the King (who is rarely or never seen in public) comes out to the open town square as a required rite just for the purpose of been beheld by the public in his full glory while traditional activities go on.

This act of his public appearance (as simple as it may sound) is no minor thing. It is something of great joy and ecstasy, especially as he will "dance" to the sounds of the town's ancient tradition gbedu drums preserved only for that purpose.

The locals describe this act of his public appearance, dance, rites, etc. by the phrase: "Oba 'n gun uwa" (The King is set or stationed receiving honour and glory).

In sum:

Oduduwa --- Odu t'o du uwa --- means: "The wholesome one who contested for honour and glory".


The name "Oduduwa" from its meaning is obviously a cognomen he got having emerged king of unified Ife.

Confirm, now you know
Let the yoruba historians tell us the meaning of Oduduwa in yoruba else, forever put an end to this discuss/deliberation

samuk:
To answer your question more specifically, the Benin royal family and institutions account is that after he was banished from Benin and fled with his supporters to found Ife, he decided to call himself izoduwa/idoduwa both meaning, I have chosen the path of peace and progress. This the Yorubas corrupted to Oduduwa.

Notice I have given the meaning of the name in Benin and the Benin royal institution account.

But some of us are questioning why we were only told about this Oduduwa by both the Benin and Ife royal household/institutions in the 1930-40.

Why were we not told this before considering the fact that they have been recording Benin history in writing since about 1475. Why are they just telling us about Oduduwa in 1930/40.

They have begun in the north and may end there
South, according to them, is not hungry but rich