₦airaland Forum

djon78:
I want to ask you one simple question? Do you know how much debt this present administration has incured in comparison to previous regimes?

You can say what you like but Peter Obi is not an economic neophyte. Peter Obi has ran an excellent private business successfully. How many governors in this present Nigeria left seat with surplus funds. Do you know what Peter did for education, health care etc. When he was talking millinial devepmental goals he was spot on. He is spot on what he was saying. Most of you are completely ignorant.

As at March 2015 Nigeria's debt burden was around 12.5T.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/07/n12trn-debt-profile-worsens-nigerias-woes/
Now consider the fact that OBJ cleared our debt, Gej incured this debt when crude was selling for as high as 120$ and production was at it peak of 2.2m barrel/day with a readily available market due to the Arab spring at the time. Also the exchange rate was at an average of 180#/1$ for the whole of GEJ's regime compared to 400#/1$ average of the Buhari regime. GEJ govt depleted the reserve left behind by OBJ despite availability of surpluses with little infrastructure to show for it.
Considering all this factors, a good Economist will tell you that Nigeria under Gej borrowed far more(if not double) than this regime. Buhari borrowed, first clear the backlog of salary arrears through bail out funds to states. The drop in crude oil price to 28$ which led to recession also left the govt with no choice than to borrow and a larger chunk of the remaining debts were counterparts funding for infrastructural development.

As regard Peter Obi, you can't access him better than a renown Economist (Charles Soludo) who tagged him a failure.

gurunlocker:
I believe you have problem comprehending... Did I say they shouldn't borrow?

The question is are they using it for the right purpose or just sharing some and using the rest to work?

Yes they are using it for the right purpose. Most of the debt incured by this govt are counterparts funding for developmental projects with China (like the rails, Dams etc) and sukok bonds for infrastructural development. Unlike previous govt that borrows to pay salaries.
Mind you, the 22.7T debt is Nigeria cumulative debt and not debts incured by this govt alone.
Even at that our debt to GDP is still at a healthy 35% compared to SA of over 100%.
Only an Economic neophyte like Peter Obi criminalises debt that's the reason why Charles Soludo criticized him when he was the governor of anambra. Peter obi's achievements was that he didn't borrow any money and that he saved, forgetting that govt is not a bank. A country with our huge infrastructural deficit has got no option than to borrow to meet up with the rest of the world.
Our yearly esusu budget of 40-50billion dollars will get us no where.

Uche Secondus is not getting it right at all, it seems he has already handed over SW to APC. I expected him to reconcile the aggrieved parties in the SW PDP instead of taking side with some to fight the others. In Ekiti you sided with fayose against Adeyeye, Arise and a host of other grass root politicians. In Ogun you're with Gbenga Daniel / Adebutu against Kashamu (the money bag), In Osun you took the side of Adeleke against Ogunbiyi and now you're supporting a stale/unproductive Bode George who can't win his ward against constituted authority of the party, instead of making Jimi Agbaje (who's loved by most lagosians) the face of the party in Lagos.
I'm afraid SW might end up being a one party system which is not good for our democracy.
It'll take a miracle for Pdp to gather 30% vote in the presidential election in Lagos.

jomonic:
Stop being greedy for power. It will take the country no where. There should be inclusive development for the benefit of all Nigerians. We cant be doing thing the same way over time and expect a different outcome. I expect educated people all over Nigeria to canvass for progressive events and not for ones that foster ethnic divisions. Its most unconscionable that Yoruba can meditate presidency at this point in time. That is extreme case of greed taken too far. If you are scared of an Igbo presidency why not join the call for the restructuring of Nigeria so that who ever occupies the presidency his performance does not hinder any of the federating units.

What you failed to realize is that greed for power is the fuel of every politician.
Power is never given on a platter of gold, even in 1999, Alex Ekwueme contested the PDP primary with OBJ, so it's not as if every other tribe stepped down for the West. The recent PDP chairmanship election that produced Uche Secondus has cemented the fact that there is nothing like Micro Zoning in Nigeria political landscape, despite the Yoruba's laying claim to the chair (as the only region yet to produce the pdp chairman) , Wike and co were blatant in making it known to the Yorubas that they have little or no investment in PDP hence they can't be the chairman.
Also PDP recently made it known that they are zoning their presidency ticket to the whole north and no micro zoning despite 100's of tribe domicile in the north.
In the same vein, SE invested little or nothing in the APC, igbos hatred for APC is well known, it's called fulani/yoruba party. Clamoring for igbo presidency under the platform of APC is simply trying to reap where you did not sow, which is injustice to those who have laboured to make APC what it's today.
Trying to blackmail everyone with secession is a stale/casted logic.
Power isn't serve on a platter of gold, you work for it.

Agreed, Tinubu is a thief (all Nigeria politicians are), but at least he is wise enough to re-invest his loot in the economy of Lagos, developing properties and creating jobs. Unlike others who looted their states and deposited their loots in Swiss and Panama banks, bought luxurious properties in Abuja, Lagos and overseas, set up Largest hotels in Ghana and South Africa, acquire the choicest shopping malls in Dubai and the best wrist watch manufacturing company in Switzerland and leave their states dry.

#FGAtWork

Recently, Reno Omokiri challenged any one to name three projects the buhari administration CONCEIVED, STARTED and COMPLETED.
I am of the opinion that starting a new project while projects initiated by previous govts are at different stages of abandonment and wreckage is foolishness, unpatriotic and playing to the gallery. Moreover, this govt has initiated and completed projects in their tens. (check #FGAtWork).
To this end, I think this govt should rather be giving accolades for not towing the line of others by adding to the long list of abandoned projects littering the nooks and crannies of Nigeria. Little wonder why for close to 20years the Lagos-Ibadan expressway is still an incompleted project while the FCT Abuja was built from scratch within a lesser period by the military. Babaginda built the 3rd mainland bridge in less than 5years.
I was going through the twitter handle of federal ministry of works, housing and power and it hashtag #FGAtWork, and I was a bit convinced that this administration has performed "relatively" better infrastructurally than the previous Govts.

This is a platform for nairalanders to argue for and against with verifiable facts and pictures.

Note: No abuse, no long essay, Just PICTURES & FACT.

cc: Afamed, ManirBK, docadams, mrvitalis, sarrki, senatordave1, Butterflyleo, , famosh, madridguy, buhariguy, deomelo etc. #FGAtWork.

Lalasticlacla, Mynd44

see as dem butcher person like sallah ram.
They'll be forming senior men up and down not knowing that they're nothing but walking corpses.

Shukuakukobambi is it not wonderful how our Ipob ( zoo must fall, hausa-fulani/muslim haters, buhari is a goat, afonjas are slaves of the caliphate) brethren are gradually getting converted to slaves of head slamming Hausa Fulani Muslim?
This must be the 8th wonder of the world. Hallelujah!!!

I have said it countless times that this emotional miscreantss are only using the pseudo Biafra charade for political blackmail and leverage, same way Ojukwu wasted 3m precious souls to Hausa Fulanis, ran with his tails between his leg to Abidjan only to sheepishly return to contest for a Senatorial seat under the Hausa Fulani party (NPC).

They spent good 4yrs abusing Hausa/fulanis and yorubas, calling them lot of unprintable names, they tagged APC kunu / amala party and are quick to call the few of their kinsmen in the party traitors and outcast.
They monopolized PDP and cheered wike on when he maligned and insulted the SW in the run up to the PDP chairmanship race.
To them SW has no place in PDP.
No micro zoning for the pdp chairman but they want micro zoning for the presidency in APC in which they denigrate and abhors.

Now that the realities of 2019 and 2023 is gradually dawning on them, they've resumed their anthem of igbo presidency again, in their usual entitlement mentality and chest beating prowess " power must be handed over to Igbos ", as if power is ever given on a platter of gold.
For their information, there is no more micro zoning, so every micro zones will work, strategize, form alliance and plan ahead to earn every single vote.
SW place their bet on Apc while SE place theirs on pdp. what you sow is what you reap.

maestroferddi, CSTR1005 and EternalTruths una hear?

Nigeria's debt profile after the obasanjo tax clearance as at 2014 - early 2015 was 12tr and the cumulative debt profile of Nigeria now is around 22 - 23tr, If you should consider the inflation rate and drop in crude oil price, then GEJ is as guilty (if not worse) compare to PMB in term of debt.

However, only Economic ineptitude folks criminalise debt. The question should be what is the debt used for? While gej and his croonies borrow to loot and pay workers salaries, A larger chunk of Buharis borrowings were counterparts funding for the construction of rails and electricity dams, sukuk bonds to construct roads in all the geopolitical zones of the country etc.
Good Economist will tell you Nigeria needs to borrow more to bridge it infrastructural deficit.
No nation developed solely on its income not to talk of third world countries like ours with huge infrastructural deficit. How do we catch up with the rest, Do you know south Africa, Egypt, Algeria, Libya, Morroco, Tunisia annual budgets? even Kenya?
The budgets of most of these countries are far larger than that of Nigeria. Despite having less: population, infrastructural deficit, wage bill (recurrent expenditure) and security challenges.
Nigeria's debt to GDP ratio is still healthy at <35% compared to South Africa at >100%.

I will gladly vote for any president that will "prudently borrow huge amount" to fix our infrastructural deficit.
For how long are we going to manage power distribution of 4000MW, non functional seaports, Airports in shambles, 19th century rail system, death trap roads etc?

I pity tambuwal. Blind political calculation.

There are lots of gang ups' against Saraki in kwara.
The age long arc adversaries of the saraki dynasty see this time as the right time to strike.
The offas' are colluding with disgruntled elements in Ilorin, the nupes and other minorities to pull him down. The Muslim clerics also see's him as not Muslim enough compared to Buhari.
Saraki should be more careful on his home base.

2019 will stretch his grip over Kwara to the elastic limits

OneCorner:
Where are d men?

At PDP rally. ipob is the militia arm of PDP.
Expect to see them pick up their Biafra flag after 2019 election (provided Buhari wins).

“This is the man with the golden touch,” Nana Addo Dankwa Akufo-Addo excitedly told a guest in full glare of jubilant supporters and an observing press. “Anything he touches turns to gold.”
He is talking about Adebola Williams, chief executive officer of StateCraft Inc , the communication agency that helped power Ghana’s three-time presidential aspirant to a victory this time, becoming President in January.
He is not exaggerating. Williams, only 30 this year, has turned out to be the continent’s leading authority on winning elections, running a governance communication company that won the presidential elections in Nigeria in 2015 and then won the presidential elections in Ghana in 2016.
Both elections are eerily similar. Both incumbents, as Vice-Presidents had stumbled into public office based on the deaths of their principals. Both entered into office on a wave of wild popularity. Their opponents had run at least twice each before (three in the case of Nigeria’s Muhammadu Buhari) – and both had won in the years that they brought in StateCraft Inc to manage their political communication. Both campaigns ran on a ‘Change’ message.
“Because the conditions were so similar, it was easy to replicate a message of ‘Change’,” Williams says during an interview. “Not every election and every context will require a message of change, even though it’s a global movement. “But many countries in West Africa and across Africa are ripe, even desperate for change.”
Williams is co-founder of RED , which is the 11-year-old parent company that houses StateCraft Inc. It’s a network of four media companies focused on Africa’s youth: Red Media Africa, a Public Relations company working in West Africa for Facebook, Uber, Union Bank and Heineken; Generation Y!, a TV and online content company with one of Nigeria’s most popular online newspapers and The Future Project, a social enterprise that hosts Africa’s biggest youth social change event, The Future Awards Africa.
His career began first in film 16 years ago and then in the media began 13 years ago, working for a youth counseling company and soon co-presenting two shows on Nigeria’s National Television Authority. He parleyed that into a thriving career as a TV producer, working for Nigeria International, a syndicated TV show in three continents; and Living it on South Africa’s Mnet.
“I returned to acting last year,” he mentions, credits including the stage play London Life, Lagos Living and what has been called Nollywood’s biggest-budget film, 93 days – capturing Nigeria’s historic response to the Ebola crisis on the continent in 2014. “Even the film projects fit into the theme of my life’s work: using the media to galvanize Africans to solve their own problems.”
Indeed, RED doesn’t fancy itself just another media company. It’s uniqueness lies not just in its combined content-communication-development, but also in its lofty ambitions of large-scale social change– using the media to galvanise young Africans to take political and economic action.
“We always say that in this century, the media can no longer be a bystander,” Williams shares, animated. “Our big audacious goal is social re-engineering. Political elite across the world have gotten too arrogant, too walled off, too uneven. It is time to hack establishments and hack these insular systems and return power to the hands of the people, where it belongs. And yes, for them to do whatever they wish with that power.”
That mission led them from building hugely popular media platforms in their native country, Nigeria to a specialization in governance communication across the continent.
“For us, building the sustainable business model is crucial. You listen to Peter Thiel or Elon Musk or Tony Elumelu and there is a growing global sense: social change must be driven by a sustainable model,” he says, recalling his role leading some of Nigeria’s most prominent youth activist campaigns. “After serial engagements focused on driving accountability and modifying government behaviour, we began to think more long term about our business and our misison: what is the sustainable business model that ensures we grow financially and build the resources we need to be effective, while at the same time driving the social change that is so central to our identity?"
The idea for the StateCraft model, interestingly, came from working for the man they first elected and then eventually defeated.
“Oronto Douglas (of blessed memory), the special assistant on strategy to President Goodluck Jonathan had asked our social enterprise to convene young leaders to chart a 20-year course for youth involvement in public service,” he recalls. “After that, our content company asked for an exclusive interview with the president. But then, after that request and a long silence, he suddenly calls us out of the blue two months later, and says they were impressed with our work and they had found out we had a PR sister-company: could we handle campaign communication targeted at the growing youth market?
“We saw in it every single thing that we were extremely passionate about: media, youth, nation building on the largest scale. And at the time, Jonathan was a change candidate like no other; what some called a breath of fresh air. He was the first minority president, he had a particular interest in the arts, had expanded the space for civil society and free expression, and was very passionate about engaging with young people.
“Unfortunately,” Williams adds with not a little hint of sadness. “He turned out to be a disappointment. However, voting him in was a crucial step foreword for Nigeria. It enabled Nigeria make huge leaps that no one can regret: he oversaw massive leaps in infrastructure; and established and strengthen a truly independent electoral commission. The latter became his most important legacy, and it is one for which he must get eternal credit.”
Williams became disenchanted, along with much of Young Nigeria, with the allegations of corruption that came to dog the government, the rise of Boko Haram, and the politics that led to government’s initial denial and slow response to the kidnap of 256 girls from the Chibok village in Borno State. They couldn’t possibly work for Jonathan’s next campaign, they decided.
“Nigeria’s politics is structurally different from America’s or what you find in much of the West,” he explains. “Nigeria’s political parties, and much of West and East Africa don’t have distinct ideologies, most in theory and all in practice. There are no big debates over economic systems or cultural wars. Parties are not fighting over abortion, over Supreme court justices, over open or closed markets. So in America, you can't possibly go from messaging on pro-abortion to messaging on anti-abortion.
“In Nigeria, however, many of those debates are either closed here or not necessary. Voters are in agreement over government involvement, over expectations of social security, over gay marriage and abortion, over income inequality and the place of the police. So elections boil down to character and personality. And so that movement was easy, and urgent.
“Someone once asked us: ‘You want to change Africa, but what's the business model? Grants?’ We have always been a business focused on the imperatives of community and nation building - nation-building is our business; we have made it at the centre of our media group. StateCraft Inc is our business model for building a sustainable financial structure that enables us achieve our critical mission – empowered young Africans to take charge of their countries, and their destinies.”
How come they win all these elections? Williams says the playbook is very simple, actually.
“Very simple at the base of it: we use our experience with on-the-street activism – everything we have been involved in from #EnoughisEnough to #OccupyNigeria to #BringBackOurGirls – to connect popular anger and aspiration. The dichotomy between community organizing or activism and politics has always been a false one as Obama ’08 showed. Now, at the time of our first involvement, we were just citizens getting involved, but then we realised 'wait a minute, we can actually dedicate our lives to this personal passion'. They are one and the same. So we are taking that model of true people-power to return power to the hands of the everyday citizen.”
He points to their model in Nigeria of building an army of volunteers – tagged #GMBVolunteers, complete with a Twitter handle of almost 100,000 followers - to push their message of the campaign.
“There was the same thing in Ghana. So this victory isn’t ours really. Without angry citizens determined to make change happen, we can do nothing. The Ghanaian people did this. Your job as communication is to help the candidate connect to the popular aspiration It’s the army of volunteers, of social media warriors, the party’s machineries, his own loyalists tired of their country being mis-managed and overrun, the army of dedicated party members and believers, that won this victory; our job is simply to channel that anger, to spread it and ensure citizen action. The victory is for and by the Ghanaians.”
He notes however that it would be a mistake to assume that communication alone, even in an age of social media, is enough to win elections anywhere.
“Yes, as my co-founder (Chude Jideonwo, who is chief executive of the group) always says: at its core politics is still the art of persuasion, but you need mobilization and persuasion. Mobilisation is party/candidate structure plus data. Communication is messaging plus outreach.
“You need the David Axelrods as well as the David Plouffes, the Jared Kushners as well as the Kellyanne Conways. Oh and Kushner is of particular interest because he is first passionate about and appeared to have brought that keen sensibility into mobilization.
“How we work essentially? We survey the field and then give the candidate our advise on mobilisaion. You need X and Y alliances, you need X relationship, you need to seal X deal, and delegitimize or neutralise Y. Then, messaging seals the deal. You always have natural voters whoever you are. Mobilisation helps secure those, but messaging helps rally them, set fire to their passion and helps convince those that you need to go beyond your floor.”
They are already working towards their next project, even though they will not, for reasons of confidentiality reveal who the client is, except that it is another presidential election within Africa.
“Democracy will continue to flourish in West Africa and the whole of Africa because the rules have changed,” he says. “The old guard has plenty of experience in snatching ballot boxes, bribing electoral officials and intimidating opponents. When the system changes towards free and fair elections however, they are left out in the cold. They have nothing. And then we have the advantage.”
Beyond the next elections, he adds, StateCraft Inc and it's parents group is focused on the initial 20-year vision it announced at RED's first press conference in 2005, when he was only 19."
“We are inspired by a crucial – if controversial - quote from the movie V for Vendetta: People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”
African governments have clearly been put on notice.

I came, I saw, I'm not surprised... Na dem terrorEast Dehvehlopers

The same IPOB youths that shout Biafla or death... No Lefelendum no erection...the zoo must fall...
What a confuse people using Biafra for political blackmail and leverage.
They will soon drop the Umbrella for Biafra flag after 2019.

tomakint:
You can imagine just take a look at the N6 billion to cater for feeding of the police are they feeding the whole of West African Police?

on inec's budget...meals for police

Let's do some Maths people.

N6,000,000,000 / N1,000 per meal = 6,000,000 meals.�

6,000,000 meals� / 2 days of elections = 3,000,000 policemen�

Let's assume the policemen are fed twice daily. That means:
3,000,000 / 2 meals� = 1,500,000 policemen.�

Now the question is: Is INEC deploying up to 1,500,000 policemen� for the 2019 elections? Because the last time I checked, Nigeria has about 300,000 cops in employment.�

At least 300,000 police officers will be needed for the election.
We have 119,973 PU and every PU will be manned by "at least" 1 policeman. All the RAC/Collation centers will have police officers in their Tens, Patrol unit, Anti terrorism units, logistic team etc.

So " 6,000,000,000/300000 = 20,000 per police officer for Over 8days: two days before the election + Election day + A day after election (when results will be announced ) (morning-Afternoon-Night). For both Federal and state elections.

20,000/ 24meals = 833/meal.

After the empty chest beating of IPOB. Biafra Intelligence Agency be looking like...

Esseite:
Wait can we please analyze this:

If we have 375,000 police officers in the whole country how in the world do we use N6bn to feed a fraction going for the INEC exercise?

At least 300,000 police officers will be needed for the election. We have 119,973 PU and every PU will be manned by "at least" 1 policeman. All the RAC/Collation centers will have police officers in their Tens, Patrol unit, Anti terrorism units, logistic team etc.
So 6,000,000,000/300000 = 20,000 per police officer for Over 8days: two days before the election + Election day + A day after election (when results will be announced ) (morning-Afternoon-Night). For both Federal and state elections.
20,000/ 24meals = 833/meal. Is #833 too much to feed a policeman? How much food you dey chop for restaurant?
6b may appear big but when you start to break it down you'll realize it's nothing.

Waste of time and resources.

Aspireahead:
Anambra is not holding governorship and senatorial elections

Unlike the executive, the parliament tenure end at every general election. At the end of this 8th senate, the house will be dissolved and only senators who emerged from a freshly contested election will be inducted into the 9th senate, there is no carry over of tenure. Even the recent senatorial elections winners, will only be senators for months, they will also contest for the same position cum 2019.

Aspireahead:
so every police officer will be on election duty? What about states where no governorship election and senatorial elections will hold?

we have 119,973 polling units, so "almost all" the police force will be on duty for the election.
Also there is no state without both Governorship and senatorial elections. Moreover we have fed house of representatives and state house of representatives elections too couple with the presidential election, so the number of election days still remains same.

arcnomec:
Please will you stop all this your baseless analysis. If they deploy all police officers for election duties, who then will police the nation?
Not all policemen can be deployed, hence the reason learned Nigerians are crying for the unambiguous money allotted for feeding...

There will be 119, 973 polling units in 2019 election and every units will be policed by "at least" a police officer, each collation centers/ RAC will have policemen in their tens, patrol units, anti terrorism units etc. Whether you like it or not a minimum of 250k-300k police officers will be needed for the whole exercise, and 6b to feed about 300k men for 8days is not too much.

I'm waiting for your own analysis... Political/Security Analyst

planetx:
Are they deploying all of Nigeria policemen for the election?

30,000 was deployed for only ekiti state with only 16lgas, now do the math for 36 states + fct. We have Thousands of polling units/ RAC centers/ Collation centers and all this venue will be manned by policemen, not to mention those on patrol and standby. Presidential system all over the world is expensive, I'm not saying they won't chop their own o. This is Nigeria

Racoon:
Guess it's the same INEC budget that contains a #6 billion naira provision to feed policemen This APC is filled with fraudsters.

Nigeria currently have about 400000 police officers. 6,000,000,000/400000 = 15000 per police officer
Is it too much to feed a policeman with 15,000, for Over 8days: two days before the election + Election day + A day after election (when results will be announced ) (morning-Afternoon-Night). For both Federal and state elections.
15,000/ 24meals = 625. Is #625 too much to feed a policeman?

6b may appear big but when you start to break it down you'll realize it's nothing.

Ekinematics:
It's obvious that you are confused. You said no bank in Akulga, but end up saying you travel to choba and ABONNEMA to access a bank.
Please where is ABONNEMA?

Your mumu don ripe.
I still don't blame you shaa. You just showed the symptom of a journey just come( very common amongst NYSC dudes).
Na your type go dey borokiri still dey ask people where borokiri dey.

Let me educate you a bit about most LGAs in Rivers State that are not close/sharing boundaries with Port Harcourt. When it comes to banks you'll only get them in the capitals of those LGAs. And remember it's only popular/big name banks you'll see in those places.
So ask questions and stop fooling yourself.


No banks you claim, but the cash deposit is still higher than all your SW states besides Lagos.

Lol otondo, I served in Rivers many years ago. There is a UBA in Abonema (Akuku Toru lga), so what happen to degema and Asari Toru, not to mention quite a number of Lga's in Rivers without any presence of banks or ATM.
Pls ask any of your family members that have traveled out of your creeks and villages if there is any LGA in the whole of south west without a bank or ATM.

I was surprised when I served in the overhyped Rivers State also, the whole of Asalga, Delga and Akulga have no bank branches nor ATM. Corpers will have to to spend close to 1500 to travel to Choba or Abonema from Buguma just to withdraw their 19'800.
Same with most of their glorified villages and creeks called LGA, a whole 3 neighboring lga's without bank nor ATM.. tufiakwa.
There is no LGA in the west that you won't find at least a microfinance bank (worst case scenario). Even in huts and hamlets you go still find banks.

NORTH-WEST

This are the kind of people PDP needs, people with passion and dedication, people who see the party as their thing, not some fair weather politicians who only see parties as vehicle to achieving their selfish interest. Jumping from A to B like the monkey that they are. Funny enough people like him are not regarded because he is not rich, party leaders prefers moneybags with no loyalty and dedication to commoners who are ready to lay their lives for the party.

bamidelee:
so churches should be taken care of with our common wealth
oga oo

So the definition of welfare to you is the sharing of our common wealth? Welfare simply means wellbeing.
Boda dele, se e ni bere ile eko agba bayi?

Sharpshooota:
Never get tired of counting

I just busted your hypocrisy. Only the illogical and intellectually bankrupt minds will buy your line of propaganda.

Linus199:
you are talking about all this people there decamp Oshi omo ole is still a saint because he's an APC member right? pls stop smoking oshogbo weed

oga I don't support either of pdp and apc, but using Christianity and Christians to score political point and sentiments is an aberration and abomination.
Neither Apc nor Pdp are Christian parties, they're not after the welfare of the church but their selfish interest, so for your own good don't align Christians with pdp. It's very petty, stale and hypocrisy at it peaks.