LordReed: What you don't seem to understand is your input is also used as data for the response to be crafted. Go look at studies that show that these LLMs lean towards agreeing with you depending on how you structure your inputs. You aren't arguing with an intelligent agent, you are using prompts to elicit algorithm based responses. Check out the ones that agree that Islam is correct, will you now become a Muslim?
Stop using AI for affirmation. That's how you get AI that tells you to kill your mum.
This is ridiculous. You are exactly arguing with a very intelligent agent - more intelligent than a PhD holder in the field. Only that the intelligence is artificial not human. Example, if you play checkers with AI, the default is that it will beat you every time because it analyzes all the possible moves and arrives at the best one, UNLESS errors were intentionally fed to it to give you a chance at winning. So also AI will always give the correct answer, if you define "correct" as the position you arrive at after analyzing all the info available, unless errors were intentionally fed to it, which AI companies don't usually do.
Infotubia9ja: The answer is very simple.. they are very ignorant and uneducated. Because they think embezzlement of public funds to go buy houses abroad in this case either usa or UK is a good investment for them to have and sell in the future for greater profit. And without them knowing what they digging their grave.
Some buy houses with HOA and most times they forfit their houses to HOA fines due to lack of metainance culture. Secondly they will want to sell in the future thinking they making profit but not knowing thats not how most american and UK economy works for example right now in america there is a housing crisis where people are not buying or selling their houses due to interest rate and now houses that one of those politicians may have bought for about $3million five or eight years ago is now worth about $1.7million which is a huge loss in value. They dont live in those houses just lock them up or give to friends and relatives to live in and with time the house will start having fixing issues and they waste extra money for repairs over and over thereby sinking more money or sell at a huge loss. Also every year, they pay morgauage taxes like yearly to the thousands which is stipulated by law. And in some cases, they dont pay for some years and the government takes the house from them.
Moral of they story they think they are making smart investments but they are not. Instead of them to use that money to invest in nigeria to make nigeria great like for example creating a new hydro power plant to power a full state 24/7 they use the money for personal gains at the end they all kpai and leave those stollen wealth behind such an irony of life.. greed to the last.. leaving other young generations to suffer for their actions. Such a pity
LordReed: Grok is an LLM you can train it to say virtually anything. Go learn how LLMs work and stop thinking it is an intelligent agent.
This is not true. Grok and most AI are fed all data available then trained NOT to be biased. That is why if you ask this same Grok 4 if it believed God exists (without the qualifiers) it would say "no". It is just like an extremely smart PhD holder. It is the qualifiers (the constraints) that determined it's answer not the training.
MaxInDHouse: Why are you scared of the religion it would be?
The debate hasn't kick off and you want to start pointing accusing finger, why not face the topic if you want to know the truth?
I'm not here for you the OP already has a clean heart regarding the church that stands out with fine fruits even though he doesn't want to associate with any religion due to all the troubles you people have caused in the name of God:
Don't think false accusations can blur honest hearted individual's minds they knows what is really happening.
Not scared at all. Just stating what is in public domain. It is not me that wrote these below
LouisdeFrance: Fear of big men. Fear of big women. They raided and captured slaves. No one protested or fought against slavery, it was a celebrated custom.
You are free to say whatever you wish and we are free to shout "LIAR!!!" See below
LouisdeFrance: I have North African blood. My maternal haplagroup is M1a1a. Both sides of my direct family tree came to the New World on passenger ships not slave ships.
You are free to say whatever you wish and we are free to shout "LIAR!!!"
DiarisGodoo: LouisdeFrance sit yourself down and honestly ask yourself the real reason why you so much hate to be grouped with other African Americans. If you were a mulatto, enslaved because your mother was enslaved, will you be busy fighting slavery or will you be busy fighting not to be grouped with other enslaved people?
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This video below uses strict math, logic, and science to have Grok 4 (Elon Musk’s AI - touted to be more intelligent than all PhDs combined) agree that God is real and that evolution, life from non-life (abiogenesis), etc, make absolutely no sense. See the transcript below
MaxInDHouse: I'm not interested in such meaningless topics first of all this is about religion not God.
So instead of arguing aimlessly about God's existence i will prefer to debate about what religion supposed to achieve in our society if that has been settled then we can find which religion that meets up the responsibilities?
Then we can now ask how possible could one religion achieve such a remarkable goal without any supernatural force involved?🙂
And which religion might that be? I hope you don't mean cultish, scandal-plagued Jehovah's Witnesses
LouisdeFrance: According to mainstream genetic science. Broad population studies show that Igbo DNA is 100% indigenous African, with no significant Middle Eastern genetic markers.The data backing this reality breaks down clearly across several key areas:
1. Peer-Reviewed Genetic StudiesWhen geneticists map out the DNA of the Igbo people, they use vast global reference databases.Major genetic surveys show that Igbo individuals cluster closely with other Niger-Congo-speaking populations of West Africa.A well-known study in 2017 specifically tested the Y-chromosomes (paternal lines) of Igbo men in Nigeria to check for Near Eastern links. The study concluded there was no genetic connection to Middle Eastern or ancient Levantine populations. Their lineage is entirely rooted in Sub-Saharan Africa.
2. Commercial DNA TestsIf a person from a long line of Igbo ancestors takes a consumer test (like 23andMe or AncestryDNA), their results usually show 98% to 100% West African / Nigerian ancestry. Middle Eastern or North African percentages do not typically show up in these results, except as minor statistical "noise" under 1%.3.
The Origin of E1b1aThe E1b1a haplogroup itself is a deeply African lineage.It mutationally split from its parent groups inside Africa tens of thousands of years ago.It spread across Central and Southern Africa during the historic Bantu migrations.Because it developed entirely within the African continent, its presence is genetic proof of deep African ancestry, not a Middle Eastern origin.
Why is this highly debated online?The insistence that Igbo DNA is "100% not Middle Eastern" is usually a response to the popular "Igbo-Hebrew" theory.Many Igbo people point to striking cultural parallels between traditional Igbo customs (like circumcision on the eighth day, naming ceremonies, and agricultural laws) and ancient Israelite traditions.
Because of these cultural ties, some groups argue that the Igbo are a lost tribe of Israel.While the cultural and spiritual connection is highly valued by many, genetic science views the Igbo as a distinct, indigenous West African population.
Idris Alba was born and raised in Britain but his father is from Sierra Leon. When he did DNA test - 0% Sierra Leon shows up. See the video below. Also see other reasons below why cultural similarities are better indicators than DNA when you are talking 4000 years ago!
LouisdeFrance: The Igbo people of southeastern Nigeria suffered a massive and devastating loss of life during the Transatlantic Slave Trade.
The Scale of the TradeNumber of Victims: Traders forced nearly 1.5 million Igbo people onto ships to the Americas between the 15th and 19th centuries.
The Bight of Biafra: Most of these captives left from the Bight of Biafra region in West Africa. This area accounted for about 14.6% of all Africans taken to the Americas.High Death Rates: Ships leaving this region had a death rate of about 17% during the ocean crossing, which was the highest of any African departure point.
Destinations and Impact
Where They Went: Survivors were taken heavily to places like Jamaica, Haiti, and the United States.Ancestry: Studies and historical records show that a large portion of African Americans and Caribbean populations carry Igbo roots. You can read more historical background on the Igbo people in the Atlantic slave trade overview.
So this tells you that a big percentage of your African ancestry is likely Igbo - which is the only noble thing in your ancestry because the European part is quite subhuman. Consider that people who did or tolerated the underlined below, that you actually have their blood in your veins!
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LouisdeFrance: we argue over who is light and dark of the color brown
Exactly what we have been trying to tell you!!! Instead of uniting with other oppressed to fight the oppressor he's focused on his lightness of skin. His whole fight is against being black or African American, never against the oppressor. Yet when the fight produces benefits he'd be the first rushing to obtain it. What truly DESPICABLE human beings. Colorism is so myopic, so small, so narrow-minded, it is disgusting!
LouisdeFrance: . According to the Bible, Jesus (Yeshua ben Yosef) comes from the line of Shem. Here is how the family tree breaks down based on the biblical text:
The Three Branches Noah had three sons who restarted the human family after the great flood: Shem: His family line is called Semitic. Ham: His family line settled in Africa and parts of the Middle East. Japheth: His family line settled in Europe and parts of Asia.
The Line to Jesus The Bible traces the family line of Jesus through generations of Shem's descendants: Shem is the ancestor of Abraham. Abraham is the father of the Israelite people. King David comes from this same family line. Mary and Joseph (Yeshua's earthly parents) both track their roots back to King David and Abraham.
Because of this, Jesus is ethnically a Semitic Judean, firmly rooted in the line of Shem.
I've already told you to stop invoking this story. It reveals your level of education
DiarisGodoo: Don't you think lies ought make a little bit of sense? It is a nonsense lie to say you don't have West African blood. I told you before, this is a faceless forum, you could have said you were anything and no one would argue with you. But to admit you are a Louisiana Creole of Color and at same time be lying you have no African blood is a nonsensical lie.
Exactly. Just like for example, after voluntarily telling us you went to secondary school in Onitsha now starts telling us every student had a laptop!
LouisdeFrance: For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.
Anyone can see they want to be from Europe rather than West Africa and so much so they envy Creoles for having European nobility. So they One Drop light skinned men making us Black but lesser than them because we're mixed. Meanwhile they are pretending to be us and claim that they ruled Europe and that swarthy means Black. Swarthy means olive complexion, sun tanned, brown or light skinned but not pale skinned.
Watch their slide show, all pictures on YouTube videos of them making up stories how they ruled Europe. They always skip Slavery which is what they were actually slaves for the Moroccans and Arabs sold by their own big men.
What a LOST soul. Something that the French intentionally did and it is working till today! They did the same thing in Haiti. They gave mulattos full citizenship so they would work as spies and work against any slave uprising. Just imagine, instead of helping in the fight against injustices of the slave master, you are busy focused on the crumbs he gave you above others! People like you would be working very hard against the revolution. Truly despicable sort of people!
LouisdeFrance: Who wants to be European more than them who throw away their traditional attire to wear the traditional attire of Anglos?
Freemasonry did not begin in Egypt it started with Druids witches and warlocks. Its not a Christian society.
So did they run out of material in Nigeria, why yall dress up like English people? You do realize jackets are environmental gear to prevent the cold weather of Europe? A jacket or long tight sleeve shirt is inappropriate for Nigerian climate. So it only means that you are dressing like the English to please them and join up.
Plenty of fabric houses in Lagos.
Why is the whole world dressing like that even people in the hottest dessert? Why does the whole world play soccer, don't they have their own games? Why are French people Roman Catholics, don't they have their own native religions? Why are the English Christians at all (but at least unlike French they broke from yoke of Rome). So everyone copies everyone. Africans cannot be different.
LouisdeFrance: in the 18th century, if a person of African descent was living inside of Africa—especially igbo land —and was living in poverty, they were highly likely to be enslaved.
LouisdeFrance: Chattel means property and your ancestors reduced people to property and sold them to total strangers even with each other. Captured women became concubines for big men
Like I said you write anything. All LIES. When I write, it is the TRUTH and it won't be just what I wrote down from thin air. See below. By the way, those chained people you keep posting are your ancestors. Have some respect!
shoodboi2: More propaganda as usual. Iran international is what you all are trying to pass off as Iranian media. Same Iranian international that is based in London where it is run by a British firm owned by Saudi Arabia 😂
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