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Truthseeker10:
Oga are you trying to be mischievous here? Your Pictorial evidence of Hell clearly states that Jesus reffered to "Hell" in Luke 16:23, 24 when the Niv clearly states Hades. Oga How do you reconcile this your contradiction since you claim that Hades is not synonymous to "Hell"?

That's language for you. We know what we mean when we say Hell in English language. See it below. See below that what Hades means (a totally ancient Greek word and name).

MaxInDHouse:
Before anything could be called "SECOND" there must be "FIRST"
God told Adam and Eve that rebellion will lead to their death which means if they never rebelled against God they would have lived till today.
It's through them that we all inherited sin and death {Romans 5:12} even when someone served God all his life as a righteous man he must die!
So the death that has no boundaries is the first which has spread to all humans {Romans 5:12} out of His mercy God will resurrect people from the first death {John 5:28-29} but the death that only affects unrepentant wrongdoers {Isaiah 65:20} where there is no resurrection {Psalms 9:17} is the second death. That is why God's word says Death and Hell were cast into the Lake of fire {Revelation 20:14} because neither death nor grave will exist in the kingdom of our God!

You keep ducking the question about Revelation 20:15. What do JW call that Lake of fire? See it underlined below again

Truthseeker10:
So If Hades is not synonymous to "Hell", How come your "Pictorial biblical evidence of Hell" in the screenshot below Claims that Jesus reffered to "Hell" in Luke 16:23, 24 when clearly the (Niv) version shows that Jesus reffered to "Hades" as shown in the screenshot below?

It was a PARABLE! Symbols - nothing is literally what it says!
Besides, the important thing is that we know clearly what we mean by Hell in today's English language. Hades is name of a god in ancient Greek mythology, and also a place for the dead.
It is hardly used in today's English

FreeStuffsNG:
Even though the Ford is technically advanced and the newest carrier in the fleet, Osias said, families of the sailors “still had those doubts that something can happen.” He cited the fire as a cause for worry.
It caught fire during Trump's war on Iran because it got hit. In the other operations, it was not struck until Iran struck it and instead of staying to continue in operations or redeployed to Cuba as initially planned, it is going for shipwreck repairs in US.


Lilọ lo n k'eyin boy. Every extra day it stays on the water, its risk of going down to the bottom of the ocean as predicted by the martyred Iranian leader keeps increasing.

Trump lost the war and his so-called world's largest aircraft carrier is leaving in disgrace with its tail in between its legs.

It's good to use your head sometimes. Why did Iran suddenly stop hitting? Are they a one-hit wonder?😅

MaxInDHouse:
Your church fathers misinterpreted that verse what Paul said is that anyone who has died has been acquainted of his sins {Romans 6:7} because the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23

God never spoke of any other thing after the sinner is dead that is why none of you can say where Adam whose sin affected the whole world is today yet you believe sinners who were infected through Adamic sin must face another punishment after death.

So what is the second death?? You were asked severally what you JW call the Lake of Fire in Revelation, you can't answer

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus spoke in PARABLES {Matthew 13:13} God has no business with the dead because they have fully paid for their sins! Romans 6:7

What has Romans 6:7 to do with Hell? It simply says dead people can no longer sin. How do you extend that to "God has no business" and Hell?

MaxInDHouse:
False religions has changed it's original meaning so as to instill fear in people but originally DEATH means being lifeless!🙂

Death still means being lifeless in today's English. Hell is different.
What does JW call that Lake of fire? And how do they answer these verses below?

Truthseeker10:
Is Hades synonymous with "Hell"?

Of course not. Did you miss my write-up below?

Truthseeker10:
lol....are you saying that the phrase "lake of fire" is not English?

There are words called synonyms in English. In our everyday English Language of TODAY, "Lake of fire" is synonymous with "Hell".
In English language of today Hell is NOT the grave and is not a place where nothing happens or is felt

MaxInDHouse:
According to Wikipedia or Encyclopedia what is the difference between Hell and Hades?🙂

See the answer to the above question:

ChatGPT!
In Hebrew, “Sheol” (שְׁאוֹל, Sheʾol) is the ancient Hebrew term for the realm of the dead, the grave, or the underworld. It appears many times in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament).
Core Meaning
Sheol was understood as:
the place where the dead go after death,
a hidden or unseen realm beneath the earth,
a place of silence, darkness, and inactivity.
It was not originally described as a place of eternal fiery punishment in the way later ideas of “hell” developed.
Different Ways It Is Translated
Depending on the Bible translation, “Sheol” may appear as:
“grave”
“pit”
“hell”
“realm of the dead”
For example:
In Psalm 16:10, some translations keep the word “Sheol,” while others say “grave” or “realm of the dead.”
In Job and Ecclesiastes, Sheol is often pictured as a shadowy place where all people go, whether righteous or wicked.
Etymology
The exact root of the word is debated by scholars. Some connect it to a Hebrew root meaning:
“to ask” or “to demand,” suggesting that Sheol is the place that continually “claims” people through death.
In Ancient Hebrew Thought
Early Hebrew writings generally describe Sheol as:
common to all humanity,
not a place of reward vs punishment,
separate from later Greek ideas like Hades or later Christian concepts of hell.
Over time, Jewish and Christian beliefs about the afterlife became more developed, and ideas connected to resurrection, judgment, paradise, and hell became more distinct.
Related Terms
Hades — Greek term often used in the Septuagint and New Testament as an equivalent to Sheol.
Gehenna — a different term later associated with judgment or hell.
Septuagint — translated Sheol mostly as “Hades.”

So you make my point. Language is a not static. It is like a living thing. Meanings of some words change over time. In today's English Language that Lake of Fire in Revelation is referred to as Hell. You were asked what JW call it but you did not answer

Truthseeker10:
But you said that "lake of fire" is the what we call "Hell" in our language today. So what language is "lake of fire"?

Irrelevant. Whatever language it is, that is what today's English language calls Hell

MaxInDHouse:
So can you explain how Death and Hell were cast into the lake of fire? Revelation 20:14🙂

Mr "Pick and Choose" show my entire quote. See it below. Hell and Hades are NOT used interchangeably

Truthseeker10:
Are you saying that "lake of fire" is the Greek word for "Hell" in English?

I am not saying anything and I can't say anything. I can only state what the general and expert consensus of what a word means in today's language. In today's English language Hell means a place of conscious torment

Truthseeker10:
Are you saying that you cannot explain Revelation 20:14 since you claim that Hell is a lake of fire and Sulphur?

MaxInDHouse:
Now just know that the Hebrew word translated HELL simply means GRAVE!🙂

How many times will I tell u, I can't claim any word to mean anything. I can only state what the general and expert consensus is as to what they mean. THAT'S HOW LANGUAGE WORKS!

Revelation 20:14 uses the words "Death and Hades". In this context, "death" refers to physical death, and "Hades" represents the temporary holding place of the dead {or "grave"} before the final judgment, NOT Hell as we use the word today.
That "Lake of Fire" is what we equate with "Hell" in our language today, and is a place of punishment that symbolizes the ultimate and permanent state of eternal separation from God!
See the full Revelation quote below (NIV). Note the underlined. JW people, what do you folks call that "Lake of Fire"?

Newlight777:
No, you are confusing “Hell” with the “Lake of Fire” as though they are identical in every passage.

Truthseeker10:
I think Q needs this your above explanation. Since the dead are Held in Hades or Hell, what happens to them there?

Truthseeker10:
The question is rightly yours since you claim Hell is a lake of fire and Sulphur. Please answer How Death and "Hell" is thrown into the lake of fire since you claim "Hell" is a lake of fire and Sulphur.

MaxInDHouse:
Now i know you've been traumatized by discussing with me but since you are saucy i won't engage you on this anymore just know that the Hebrew word translated HELL simply means GRAVE!🙂

Non of us can claim Hell to be anything since we neither made up the word nor were we there when the authors used them. We can only state what the general consensus is as to what they mean biblically and otherwise. Read them below then disprove them one by one, NOT pick one obscure verse and focus on only that!

Starz825:
They both enjoyed sex na

Which wan be take back the pussy..

Gotocourt:
The both enjoyed the pleasure.
Abi she gave HIV

Yeah? Why was one buying things for the other then? How many men have bought you anything? Who runs risk of pregnancy? Whose reputation is tarnished as second hand or "ashawo"? Who has to deal with heightened risk of all sorts of infections and HIV (receptive vaginal or anal being much more dangerous than insertive)

Biodun556:
That one is just a military base

The Israeli in the US own Republican and Democrats parties

And the greatest city in US has a Muslim as mayor! Israel couldn't even pick Mayor talkless of president!

Truthseeker10:
If Hell is a lake that burns with fire and Sulphur according to your evidence in the screenshot, How do you explain the verse in the screenshot below?

A more pertinent question: how can death and hell as we understand them be thrown into anything? It's like saying life was sent to Kirikiri!

mayor1814:
Very hypocritical set of people. I wonder why nairaland mods that should be neutral have turned to IRGC Hamas Hezbollah houthis sympathizers

Not just sympathizers, full blown cheer leaders and they're not hiding it!

Biodun556:
The leaders that Israel appointed for US this time around lack morals and rouges

This invisible Israel below or another?

Caught? You people are funny. He knew everyone was watching and cameras were rolling.
Besides, how u know what book that was??

LocalBuka:
Mine is suya with masa. And I say that with my full chest.

Unfortunately what you're consuming is PURE CANCER! Don't complain when the time for payment comes.
See below

What is monie book?
Xxxxx

Sonnobax15:

Nothing gives me the sweetest and longest erection whenever I see stuffs like this

And to anyone who'll come here and say why would the gentleman go the extent of taking back all the things he bought for the female scallywag,I pray an uncircumcised thunder with the loving hands and touches of lightening should locate such a person ASAP

Gotocourt:
Even panties we go collect am

But can she take back all the pussy she gave him? Suppose she contracted HIV in the process?

Ironfaceman:
Is that the state hospital. Not Good at all. And dapo want to go for senate.

The smell must be from recycling plant lots of Chinese have them their.

CHINESE!!! Totally soulless. All they care about is profit no matter how many die!

PulaPower:
Just take a look at how Iran turned usa to their spokesman..

Iran is this, Iran is that… After all the lies, they still go over to negotiate..

If ANY country says same about US you'd be saying the exact opposite. it'd already be on Frontpage with a poll asking if US is finished as a country!

Truthseeker10:
So you're saying that you don't know the Hebrew word in which the word "Hell" was translated from and I should just take your definition of Hell from Google as the Bible's definition?

Google has no independent definitions. It's definitions are culled from scholars and authorities. See below, "Bible's definition"

Truthseeker10:
I asked you for the word for Hell...You claimed that the preacher did not use the Word "Hell". So what is the word that is translated to "Hell"?

Do you know what "probably" means? Was I there when he was writing? I even included screenshot of what we call "hell". Go read that again, then decide for yourself another word for it!

chariisGRACE:
Nigeria, like some other African countries that are rich in natural resources are being harvested with reckless abandon by the colonisers. Since Peter Obi is not ready to become a faucet, and he's arranged plans that could likely see their operations shut down, there's no way they'd hand-over control of the reservoir to him.

1) If Tunubu remains as unpopular as he seems to be, even in SW, how will you convince people he won the election?
2) The other option is Atiku. How can he win with only the North?

That leaves OK as the only possible outcome people will accept

Dreal1247:
A new Nigeria is POssible with OK. Bringing willing good minds together for a better Nigeria is the foundation of a prosperous nation. With OK, Nigeria will bounce back to prosperity.

OK is okay!

Truthseeker10:
According to your words in bold above, What is the word for Hell?

Hell

koladata:
If you've never heard from God before, it will be very had to explain because me I'm not a very religious person... but believe God talks to everybody, your pastor or Imam is not special, we are just always too lazy to pray

You keep saying you're not a religious person yet you believe there is God that is so into minautae of human adfairs that he talks to people about things like who they should marry. If that is not very religious I don't know what is!
So please give as close example as possible as to what sign God would give

koladata:
Go into a very very deep fasting and prayer , postpone the weeding date. Wait for God to give you a very obvious sign that she's your wife... I'm not a very religious person but believe me when it comes to choosing life partner, God will personally intervene if you ask him for direction

What sort of sign would this be? Please give example