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If Igbo people join you in your call for revolution, will Yorubas and other minorities join forth? Me, i no wan sabos or backstabbers oo unless if they will start it first and we Igbos join them later. Am 100% sure that no hausa will join you in this your call for revolution because the mess/ status quo as it is now is favoring them.

And i wonder why none of you commentators are not asking if Atiku is the best northerners can produce? Ohh, i forgot, Atiku is not Igbo, so such question will never arise from any of you unless if you people are discussing about Igbo presidency.

@MC Usman

If the north with less population than the south, having 70% of the population below the poverty line, coupled with polio, malaria leprosy infection, an illiterate majority, seen and classified as backward and primitive yet have hold to ransom an educated and highly civilized south with an army of professionals in all field & discipline having control of civil service & private sector. The real question that is begging for an answer of which no body has given any plausible explanation is who the real is fooling who. Then I must admit that the south is ,

You don't have to look far to get the answer of your so called real question unless you choose to leave your ostritch head as it was buried in sands. Fact is your people awusa are not ruling nigeria. Nigeria is being ruled from No 10 Downing Street London by the evil British who saw your awusa people as the willing mugus, tools and illiterates to use in holding the whole of nigeria to ramsome through empowering you zombies awusas militarily against other regions.

Also, the south the get it self out of the cage called nigeria is being undermined everyday by the Yorubas and other minorities who are ever willing to be slaves all their lives as can be evidenced by their sons and daughters of this forum who found nothing bad in wishing for one nigeria.
No southerner can be wishing for one nigeria while undermining the wishes of 99% Igbos of having their own separate state of Biafra and still cry about how the whole south can not be able to pull out of nigeria as your question dictates, knowing fully well that 100% northerners will always wish for one nigeria. Since the illiterate northern zombies have the military backing of the evil British, they will always get what they wish for against the sophiscated but divided south (due to Yoruba and other minorities selfish wish for one nigeria) without any military backing.

@Did Guy

oh please one of the worst excuse I've heard!! can they really summon the army to battle the whole south?
come to think of it, the oil is in the south, that means the international community will be there within 24hrs!!

One of the worst reponse i 've ever heard. Can the the whole South really summon themselves and battle the northern army without the Yorubas leading other minorities in the south in betraying the Igbos and fighting on the side of the awusas as they did in the past? Come to think of it, the oil was still in the south when the so called international communities aided other nigerians from Yoruba, awusa and the rest of the minorites to quel the Igbo secession bid. Go figure before spewing rubbish.

@Kobojunkie

If you read my post there. I never said that ibo boys do not go to school. For all I know back in the 80’s and 90’s, college was all the hype but I believe that there are far more JAMB “hold backs” in the east than in the west. Now, since there is no PERCENTAGE BASED COMPARISON to back this up to date due to the state of the educational system in the country, both on the private and the public level, I still say this is not a worthy debate and so we can each choose to believe as we want to, based on our surroundings and exposure.

You believe that there are far more JAMB “hold backs” in the east than in the west. Where did you get that belief from? Off your thin head i believe. Easterners must not be educated more than your Yorubas, but sorry, JAMB statistics states otherwise. Ohhhh, i forgot, Igbos control JAMB and there for they fix the statistics to favor themselves. So for you Yoruba, JAMB statistics hold no water because it didn't favor Yorubas. May be you think that it must be same as your nigerias manipulated census and election figure? Sorry, it aint that.

Getting more accurate stats is possible. Anyone who lives in that country knows that JAMB stats hold no water when it comes to actual number of students who do get into school each year. There are folks who take JAMB 7 times just so they can get into college and we all know that a high JAMB score does not automatically mean college education. Like I said, hopefully we have a better way of measuring the actual number of students who do get into college compared to those who take the JAMB exam and then we can easily estimate the number of students from each region who make it each year more accurately.

Which more accurate stats do you need aside from JAMB? Yes, for you JAMB stats will never hold water because it's every year statistics is contrary to what you wish for. You talk about getting more accurate stats. Which other accurate stats do you want aside of JAMB? Ohhh, because JAMB is not being controlled like the Yoruba awusa census and election, therefore it's stats must be rubbish. I remember you hailing the nigeria census figure as the best thing since slice bread, but JAMB is never accurate.

As you said that JAMB stats hold no water when it comes to actual number of students who do get into school each year, i hope this also applies to Yoruba people? You said that there are folks who take JAMB 7 times just so they can get into college, i also hope this also applies to Yoruba people? Yes we all know that a high JAMB score does not automatically mean college education, i do hope also that this also applies to Yoruba people?

Like you said, that hopefully we have a better way of measuring the actual number of students who do get into college compared to those who take the JAMB exam and then we can easily estimate the number of students from each region who make it each year more accurately. Hope this also applies to Yoruba people, so in essence when you measure as you want, calculate all and minus what ever you want, Igbos will still have the highest number of educated since your minus must be from both group. The minus should not pertain to Igbos alone. Yorubas must also be inclusive in what ever minus you want to perform from JAMB accurate statistics.

The presence of 10 or 20 boys in school in a certain community does not automatically write off the fact that there could likely be a problem when it comes to number of literates in that zone.

I also hope this "certain" applies to Yoruba areas.

I have been involved in researching the Nigerian school system for about a year and a half now and I can definitively tell you that the story I get from the East when it comes to education is not as good as that which I get from the western states. Now, I am not saying the cases are not all bad but there exists a lot of gaps that needs to be filled, and then some ,on all sides.

You have been involved in shhiiiiit research. If you don't believe in JAMB independent statistics which is accurate how then do you want anyone to believe in your so called research? So, i should leave what JAMB says about educational statistics and believe in your makeshift quark research? Your own personal so called research indicates that western states are better off educationally where as JAMB states otherwise, and anyone in his right sense will chose yours over JAMB? Clap for your self. Anumanu, may be you think JAMB statistics is nigerian manipulated census and election figures.

debosky:
@ Quotasyte

Surviving by 'clinging on' to Igbos?

Now that is hilarious. I guess in all your tribalistic/secessionist fervour, you missed out on what Odinga did to remedy the situation.

Did he take the Luo tribe out of Kenya? No - he made sure he built a strong political network and support, not only from his own tribe, but from many other smaller tribes around the country so that they could effectively battle the erstwhile dominant Kikuyu tribe, and by doing that, he has achieved representation for his people at the highest/near highest level as prime minister.

Unfortunately, you are too dense to comprehend such an approach, OR you are silently admitting that Igbos lack the kind of leader that Raila is, who can do more than be an ethnic champion and can draw broad-based support from other tribes outside his own kinsmen - which is it?

The key you miss is Odingas perseverance and dedication to bringing true democracy - we don't seem to hear of such Igbo leaders these days - if you are pointing fingers at the Yorubas and Hausas, unfortunately, your leaders are just as poor, if not worse.

I don't have your time cause you haven't said anything contrary to the fact that you nigerians depends on Igbos for your survival. If you don't have anything to benefit from Igbos nor depend on Igbos for your daily survival as i pointed out, why is it difficult for you people to heed to the Igbos desire for their separate country? We Igbos have nothing, and i mean absolutely nothing to benefit from you nigerians, rarther we are losing for being in the same union with you parasites and have been seeing our development being arrested over the past years by you ignoramus, and that's why we are so anxious to leave your rubbish union called luggards nigerian cage and creat our Biafran state where we will manage and control our destiny by ourselves. Why are you afraid to go your own separate way? Can you tell us your reasons?

@davidif

In case you didn't know, secession is not and has never being the answer. Just look at Bangladesh and Pakistan who split from India, are they all not incredibly poverty stricken. Heck, even the former soviet republics like the Tajikistans, Turkmenistans, Lithuania's, Bulgaria's and all the other "stans" or "ia's", are they still not poor?

First of all, i think it will serve you better to take your preaching to your Yoruba and awusa brethren or better still shove it up your arrss for it is too late for you nigerians to be preaching ONE nigeria and still expect to be heard after you have succeeded in taking back the country to stone age.

You are quick to point out Pakistan and Bangladesh as if splitting from another country is a requisite for being poor. Who told you or what made you think that Biafra will be poor if they secede from nigeria? Okay, okay, okay. Even if we ended up being poor and dying in record numbers everyday, how on earth is it your fuccking problem? Have you people not been wishing us death upon death upon all evil things on us? Did you not try your best possible to wipe us all out during the 3 years war with the help of Britain? Why do you think i will suppose that you mean well for us to stay in the same country with you? Why don't you let those stupid and idiotic arrogant Igbos that you so much love them to perish to go their way and suffocate themselves in their Biafran country? Why don't you? since you so much hate them? Does your wanting those arrogant, selfish "ibos" in same country with you means love for them? Abegi, shove that love up your amala arrsss.

Do you know that Switzerland, Leichstentein, Monaco, Austria, Slovenia are all smaller countries than nigeria and are all landlocked (just in case you bring up your landlocked Yoruba and awusa ignoramus argument about Biafra) yet and 50 times richer than your nigeria? Even the former Soviet Republics like the Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Lithuania, Estonia, Bulgaria, Latvia, Ukraine, Slovakia,Belarus and all the others you forgot to mention are all better off today economically than they were when they were locked up inside the evil USSR. Proofs abound today if your really want to sit up your lazy arrss and google things up.

But trust Nigerians, when something bad happens, everybody starts pointing fingers from left to right to everyone except themselves. The yorubas blame the hausas, the hausas blame the ibos, while the ibos just blame everybody else (as if they were not the first ones who launched Nigeria's first coup destroying the once bright future of the country).

Why shouldn't the Igbos blame you awusa and Yorubas? Just tell me one reason why we shouldn't blame you block heads when you have been controlling and managing the government since almost 50 years after independence and things have gone from good after independence to worse in recent years. Now, tell me where you want Igbos to square the blame on if not on you Yorubas and awusas that are totally responsible. When things go bad in any company being it corporate or football company, who normally get the blame/sack? The workers, players or the director, coach? Tell us. The blame lies squarely on your people. You were the managers for 50 years, so stop whining because of the blame. Yoruba and awusa people deserve the blame because of their porous heads. It's only illiterates than can manage anything for 50 years without any improvement.

Look at America that fought a civil war just to prevent secession, now look where they are today, the most powerful nation the world has ever seen. So instead of blaming everyone else why can't you sit down and see how you can make a difference in your enviroment.

Ewu, why don't you lay down the fact that after America's civil war, serious and honest efforts were made to reconcile and incorporate everyone into nation building which led to the success they have now unlike the segregation your fathers are practicing in your silly nigeria today. Do you look into the fact that America practices true federalism which lets every state manage whatever they have and pay taxes to the center unlike your failed nigeria? Do you look into the fact that in America today, those who vote for others also have the right to be voted for and it is manifesting unlike in your stupid country where some arrogant set of people are saying something like "they don't trust the Igbos" as if the country belong to only them, and on top of that, you Yorubas are chorusing it for them, yet want the same Igbos to be part of your country. Your slaves abi? Same Igbo people who are better than you nigerians in all spheres of life. Kaiii, no thanks to Britain. We don chop shiit. Who is fooling who? America ni, success ko.

Does New York benefit directly from the oil found in Texas as your Abuja and Lagos so much depend on oil found in the niger delta? Do you know the problem it would have breed had Americans not perfected these ways of various state self management which made it easier for everyone to be loyal to their union? Do you think citizens of a any country stagging their loyalty to such nation is something such nation don't have to sincerely work for, but expect it on a platter of gold? You must be deluded if you think you can get anyone to be loyal to your makeshift country nigeria when your Yoruba and awusa rulers are not sincere. You just open your mouth gbua gbua to compare almighty true democratic America to your makeshift nigeria without thinking about the so many differences that separates two of them.

Remember this saying "there are some people who watch things happen and there are some people who make things happen" now the question is who are you? are you the type to sit on your backside all day long having pity on yourself and complaining how everybody else has wronged you based on hand me down stories from your parents or uncles who supposedly lived during "the war" or how your people have suffered more than everybody else, or maybe you are the type that picks himself up by the bootstrap and gets to work and no matter what the situation is, still keeps fighting against the odds. If you are  not, then keep promoting your ethnocentrism.

Ewu, the days of monkey dey work, baboon dey chop don pass. You Yorubas and awusa should go your separate ways and sit up your lazy arrss and start working in your own separate countries. No more depending on the oil in niger delta and the hard work of Igbo people to earn undeserved taxes through Igbo people's hardwork. Since you know how to make things happens, why don't you make it happen in your Yoruba country where Igbos, those you love to hate will not benefit from it.

History and facts have it that in your makeshift country nigeria, Igbo knows how to make things happen a million times more than others, and we want our Biafran state were we can make it happen just for us and not for your lazy arrss. So go find a way to make yours happen in your own Yoruba country. Why are you so much afraid of forming your won country without the Igbos? Must Igbos live in the same country with you? the last time i check, the richest country on earth going by standard of living is the little Norway which their population is nowhere near your Yoruba peoples population. So, if Norway can make it, why not Yoruba? Question is what are you people afraid of? Must you survive by clinging unto Igbos?

Nna, you people should stop responding to this idiot this way. Why can't you simple figure out that he didn't call anyone, talkess of calling any chief? Who told you he called any one on phone? He is only dragging your feet and getting you to argue with his porous head, yet you people are falling for that. You guys should know better, or are you Yoruba like him?

Our people should know that once we declare our Biafran independence, many peace loving countries will recognize us immediately. MASSOB please take note.

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Kenyan PM, Odinga, faults rotational presidency
By Olalekan Adetayo
Published: Friday, 10 Oct 2008

The Prime Minister of Kenya, Mr. Raila Odinga, on Thursday faulted the idea of rotational presidency in Nigeria, saying it was capable of causing the country’s disintegration.


Odinga, who delivered a lecture titled “Democracy and the Challenge of Good Governance in Africa” at the silver jubilee anniversary of The Guardian in Lagos, particularly noted that the South-East zone of the country had not produced a President.

He pointed out that those who had the right to vote must also have the right to be voted for in a democracy.

The Prime Minister said, ”I was here (in Nigeria) during 1999 and 2003 elections. I was also here in 2006. Somebody told me that the presidency is rotated between the North and the South and that since President Olusegun Obasanjo is from the South-West, the next president should be from the North.

”I asked what happens to the South-East and I was told that the situation is like that because Northerners do not trust the Easterners. If you say that some people can vote and cannot be voted for, then why are we here?

“Something similar to that happened in Kenya too in the past when they said that the uncircumcised could not lead the country. This situation causes disintegration. The right to vote also confers on one the right to be voted for.”

Odinga attributed the problems facing Africa to the derailment of its leaders from the laudable and visionary dreams of its founding fathers.

He said that Africa’s problems were compounded by the lifestyle of mediocrity that Africans had been living since independence.

While regretting that about 15 million people die yearly in Africa in poverty-related circumstances, Odinga said to heal the scar, the continent needed purposeful and visionary leaders.

He chided the African Union for what he called its failure to condemn brutal regime in the continent.

The Prime Minister said, “One man that has been dragging the name of the continent in the mud in recent times is one Mr. Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe. He turned to a brutal dictator.

“The AU has fallen short of expectation for failing to condemn brutal regimes. Mugabe is still being welcomed. This cannot, however, surprise us. It is because many of our leaders have big skeletons in their cupboards.

“They adopted this conspiracy of silence for the fear that if they talk, the spotlight may fall on them too.”

Despite the ills bedeviling the continent, however, Odinga said he believed in the ability of Africans to develop the continent by themselves.

He said, ”Foreigners will not come to develop the continent for us. They will only invest in the continent and make profit to share to their shareholders.

“We should stop blaming our colonial past for our woes. We should put that experience behind us and move forward just like Korea did.”

The Kenyan leader also asked African leaders to tap into the rich human resources in the continent by providing conducive environment for professionals to work rather than being driven out.
“Tomorrow belongs to the people if they prepare for it today. We will not take our rightful place in the world if we fail to prepare. Our enormous resources should be made to work for us. Africa must rise. If Africa unites, nobody can stop it,” he concluded.

[quote author=Aloy.Emeka link=topic=181060.msg2923772#msg2923772 date=1223647178]I am not flexing muscle with you. I am rather saying the truth besides i am a busy man and a very busy one at that. Stop being an online hate vendor and do something useful with your life. You want me to stay online the whole day with you and quarrel? I knew it that you are a frustrated jobless tribal idiot. Go and get some job and do something useful with your life besides hanging around nairaland all day. You are a disgrace to yorubas. Fool.[/quote]The idiot is not even Yoruba. He is awusa. A mallam for that matter. A tenth class brain among all nigeria's ethnic groups.

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry, I only trust what I know to be fact and not what someone tells me because he or she assumes self more knowledgable when it comes to Nigeria simply cause he/she believes he is on the "GROUND". This for me has nothing to do with tribalism or the sort. Heck, I do not pledge allegiance to any one tribe in that country. I do know from the much I have seen, both here and in Nigeria, I can definitely state that

1) The Educational system is in shambles. There are so many Nigerians who do not believe that is the case. You still hear stories of how some Nigerian students being able to
win an award or two abroad translates to the school system in Nigeria being as good as those in developed countries. Some of those who have made similar claims are ibos.

2) The trend continue to show that Ibos are less educated than yorubas. This statement is not made  out of bias but simple from my observation as a Nigerian. Unless someone can show stats to prove otherwise, I believe I will hold to this until I see a change in this area.

3) Having a high school certificate  from one of the public schools in Nigeria is no longer enough when considering what it means to be educated.

At your bolded part above. That sounds stupid that you are waiting for someone to provide you with statistics that is just there at your finger tips on the WWW. Since you are waiting NAIRALAND statistics other than factual JAMB statistics, you can't get it. Here under is some facts for your knuckle head and if you are still not satisfied, you can visit the JAMB web site by yourselve. Ewu myth believer, you can't stop the Igbos with your father's created myth. Help your self with the facts below.


I had earlier written an article on Nigeriaworld.com website titled “Nd’igbo and School Enrollment (Friday, August 30, 2002), which was also published by Nigerdeltacongress.com (September 2002). Hallmark National Newspaper equally published it under the title “The Media and Academic Excellence” (November 6, 2002). I received a lot of mails commending me on the article. Equally, there were also some few mails that were antagonistic and full of bile. Though, none was able to disprove the facts I presented. I took it in my stride as one of the “fringe benefits” of being a commentator on national discourse.

I intend to do a further expose on Ndigbo as it concerns school enrollment in Nigeria and confront the lies peddled over the years with facts and we will see how they will crumble like a pack of cards. This article is to further elucidate the facts presented by Marcel Okeke in his article: “Ndi’gbo and the 2002 JAMB results” (The Guardian, Tuesday, December 3, 2002).

Marcel Okeke had stated thus:

“Save the Federal prisons said to have been pointed out by President Olusegun Obasanjo during a state visit to one of the South-Eastern states (as evidence of Federal presence), it is only in the area of educational institutions that the region may rank equal to the others. Today, apart from four Federal universities (including one of agriculture and one of technology) and a few other tertiary institutions, each of the five states in the zone owns a university and several higher institutions. Even at the lower levels (primary and secondary), the number of schools and enrolment keep growing in leaps and bounds despite the palpable neglect of the system by the politicians at the helm of affairs in the various States.

But, if the region has lost everything, politically and economically, as it seems for now, the 2001/2002 Joint Admissions and Matriculation Board (JAMB) examination results just released, provides another eloquent proof that the education "industry" in the South-East is still indeed, a viable one. Obviously, the number of qualified persons seeking admission (and those eventually taken) from each state or zone of the country is a key index of the population and quality of students produced by the zone.”


Okeke went further to state:

“However, the 2001/2002 JAMB results remain not only a sign of hope and source of pride for the Igbo, but also another affirmation of their resilience and hegemony in the nation's education sector. This trend is rooted in the history of the people which culminated in the setting up of the first indigenous university by the South-Eastern Nigeria Government in the First Republic (1960, specifically), namely the University of Nigeria Nsukka. Subsequently, during the Second Republic, each of the two States that made up the region (Anambra and Imo) founded a university in addition to setting up several other tertiary institutions and secondary schools. Today, these universities are the Enugu State University of Science and Technology (ESUT) and the Abia State University, Uturu.

Still, in spite of the ravages of military intervention and rulership, each of the five Igbo States today owns at least a university and several tertiary institutions. Even the states (including Anambra) where teachers are said to be owed backlog of several months' salaries, the governments' have managed to build more schools. And in these schools, although invasion by cultism and other social vices is a cause for concern, the performance of the students in public competitive examinations such as JAMB (as the current results show) speak volumes in favour of the standards. In this regard, too, the outcome of the Bournvita Teachers Awards the other day, amply affirm the relatively good quality of teaching/learning that still obtains in Igboland. As is already well known, the overall winner (secondary schools category) of the award was a teacher from one of the secondary schools in Owerri, Imo State.”


Okeke’s averment cannot be disputed. In fact, despite the fact that Anambra State public schools were on strike for a full academic session, the state still came second in the May/June 2002 West African Examinations Council (WAEC) overall results. Pupils in the state still went and enrolled for private extramural lessons and through their sheer doggedness, despite the state government’s insensitivity, were still able to achieve success.

My readers may be wandering whether I am obsessed with this idea of Igbo supremacy (or dominance) in school enrollment in Nigeria. Call it obsession if you like. Falsehood, if left unchallenged has the capacity to violently dethrone truth. Also, a lie repeated too often may assume the position of truth. I will continue to shout from the rooftop with such gusto which the dispellers of this falsehood have been going about their business until the awareness reaches a feverish pitch.

I will proceed to give just three examples of such untruths peddled in the Nigerian media:


1. Onome Osifo-Whiskey (Managing Editor, TELL Magazine): “In the spare parts mentality of his people, Nzeribe…”

Osifo-Whiskey made this insulting remark in the pages of TELL magazine in year 2000 after Senator Arthur Nzeribe moved a motion for the impeachment of President Olusegun Obasanjo. Meaning? Most Igbos do not go to school and are only good in “buying and selling”, especially “spare parts”.


2. Modupe Adelaja (Minister of Solid Minerals): “ It is a bad stigma that you are a traitor, that you left your country to fight on the other side. You can be doing your buying and selling…”

- December 10, 2001 at the ministerial press briefing to herald the year 2002 Armed Forces Remembrance Day.

Meaning? The Igbo should remain content with their “buying and selling” business and not bother to compete for public offices in Nigeria. In other words, Igbos in Nigeria are synonymous with trading and should leave political (and even economic) leadership to indigenes of other regions.


3. Olusegun Adeniyi (Editor, THISDAY, The Sunday Newspaper): ", a region (South East) where most young people are driven by the urge to make money with little or no value attached to mental self improvement"

I had argued earlier that all these are consistent with Igbo stereotyping. I will still quote Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu’s stand on this: "I found that there is an orchestrated attempt at intimidating the Igbo with their own shortcomings. And these are shortcomings that are rampant across the entire country”. ( Newswatch Magazine of April 8, 2002, p. 29)


I will now proceed to reproduce some of the data of candidate’s registration for 2001/2002 JAMB examination in terms of state of origin and the best three (four actually) performing candidates.


                         

                           FIRST SIX



STATES               TOTAL NO OF APPLICANTS    PERCENTAGE

1. Imo                                      95,984                               9.84

2. Delta                                    80,448                               8.25

3. Anambra                              64,296                               6.59

4. Edo                                    61,897                                 6.37

5. Ogun                                  54,272                                 5.60

6. Ondo                                  46,592                                4.70




                    LAST SIX



STATES               TOTAL NO OF APPLICANTS    PERCENTAGE

1. Borno                                    4,358                              0.43             

2. Taraba                                  2,934                              0.29

3. Katsina                                 2,530                              0.25

4. Kebbi                                    2,438                              0.24

5. Zamfara                                2,169                              0.22

6. Yobe                                     1,178                              0.12



I will now proceed to provide some data on the number of successful candidates from the Southeast, as well as the last three states. As shown by the JAMB results, there were ninety-five thousand (95,000) successful candidates.



   FIRST SIX STATES (PLUS EBONYI 

                     STATE)



STATE OF ORIGIN          NO. OF SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATES         PERCENTAGE

1. Imo                                                 11,264                                     12.00

2. Anambra                                          9,320                                       10.00

3. Enugu                                              5,917                                        6.22

4.Delta                                                                                                                                 

5. Rivers

6. Abia                                                 5,088                                        5.34



* Ebonyi                                               1,793                                       1.88





                   LAST THREE


STATE OF ORIGIN     NO. OF SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATES         PERCENTAGE


1. Taraba                                            358                                           0.38

2. Borno                                              220                                           0.23

3. Yobe                                               160                                           0.17


It should be noted that Edo, Ogun and Ondo States which were among the first six states in terms of number of applicants (by states of origin) gave way to Enugu, Rivers and Abia States in terms of successful candidates (by states of origin). Is it not a wonder that the “buyers and sellers” from the South_East got 35.44 percent of the overall successful candidates? Such falsehoods as peddled in some Nigeria news media flies in the face of the facts. I make bold to say that Igbos would have performed better than they did if there is free secondary education in the South East, as obtains in some parts of the country.

I equally wish to remind my readers that about a third of the population of Delta State are Igbos (I had erroneously stated ¼ in my last treatise). How did I arrive at this assertion? The Deltans of Igbo origin constitutes one of the three senatorial zones of Delta State. The Delta Igbos, commonly known as the Aniomas comprises the Aniochas, the Oshimillis, the Ikas and the Ndokwas. Infact, out of the 25 Local Government Areas in Delta State, the Aniomas have 9. Aniomas also have one senatorial zone, out of the three in Delta State. So, if one should make an off-handed estimation, one may hazard a guess that about about 1/3 of the Delta state successful candidates are Igbos. It is equally pertinent to state here that there is a substantial number of Igbos in Rivers State. Infact, after the Biafra/Nigeria civil war, many communities in the present Imo and Abia States were ceded to Rivers State (Ndoni/Egbema area and parts of Ndoki South of the Imo River). The state governments of these two states have severally called on the National Boundary Commission (NBC) to see that this injustice is redressed.

In this essay, I have gone a step further to trace what the trend was, in the last five years, in terms of number of applicants (by state of origin) and the number of successful candidates (by state of origin), for JAMB/UME examinations.


APPLICATION STATISTICS (JAMB/UME)

http://www.jambng.com/statistics/application/ume/ume2001

http://www.jambng.com/statistics/application/ume/ume2000

http://www.jambng.com/statistics/application/ume/ume1999

http://www.jambng.com/statistics/application/ume/ume1998

http://www.jambng.com/statistics/application/ume/ume1997


ADMISSION STATISTICS (JAMB/UME) (BY STATES)

http://www.jambng.com/statistics/admission/ume/ume2001/states/

http://www.jambng.com/statistics/admission/ume/ume2000/states/

http://www.jambng.com/statistics/admission/ume/ume1999/states/

http://www.jambng.com/statistics/admission/ume/ume1997/states/


The facts speak for themselves. Facts are sacred but opinions are free. As you can see, the above tables are self-explanatory.

In conclusion therefore, I wish to admonish my readers, no matter which side of the divide you belong, to digest this write-up with an open mind. Forgive me of my “exuberance” and “over-zealousness”. Examine the message, not the messenger.

naijaking1:
Your answer, my brothers lies on the fact that we Igbos have always under-estimated the Hausas, everytime! From the time of Independence, to Aburi, to the civil war, to Shagari/Ekwueme, to Abacha and IBB.

That is why Quotasystem believes that by dominating the manial private sector, we would always survive-wrong. All it takes to neutralize all the gains in the private sector is one swipe of a governmental policy----- if you're too young to understand, ask people who survived Awolowo/OBJ 20 pounds policy for Biafra.

We may be allowed to carry out our petty trading at Onitsha and Aba, but when the money gets plenty, political eyebrows are raised, and government could step in one swoop and take every thing, ask the so-called rich Igbo businessmen, from Nnanna-Kalu, to Ibeto, to late Ekenedilichukwu, to Coscharis.

You made valid points and that is what i have been saying. But that does not negate the fact that upon all their grip on power through military support to use in check mating and arresting the development of Igbos in all spheres of nigerian life from business to politics, Igbos are still better off than them economically. We have the best living standard in nigeria and that is what matters most in any country and this is only by our might despite their bring us down policies.

If you list fortune 500 companies in nigeria, Igbos will still have the most number of those companies owned by them from banks to Information technology to manufacturing. You need the list? (Don't talk about govt. aided stolen money invested in telecoms) Leave the competition ground level without hindrance with no policy and we will take over that sector and create more jobs for their nigeria's arssbroken university graduates. Talk of fear of the Igbos which is the downfall of nigeria. Come to petty trading as you put it, Igbos dominate it (counting success) by far margin of about 80% to 20% for the rest of other nigerians.

You and i knows that those policies they always create to bring our businesses down are only possible because of their grip on power which was made possible by no other people than the evil British. That is the reason why they are trying so much hard aided by their sons and daughters in nairaland to make sure that no Igbo person comes close to the presidency. Their fears? All those one sided policies will be quashed by Igbos and competition playing ground leveled for all to play.  

They can't withstand such as they simple can't compete favorably in any level playing ground with the Igbos.
They can only compete in this kind of environment where they use policies to check and terminate the business gains of Igbos and use their government aided stolen wealth to created big businesses which some misguided Igbos like you will come here to join them in glorifying as successful business empires. Who doesn't know how the likes of Glo's Mike Adenuga came into existence? is that business superiority when you don't allow others to play in the same level field?

Well, they have already shot themselves on the foot by declaring rotational government. Just wait until 2015 when Igbos must sure take over by any means. That is if nigeria still remain one country by then.

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=180204.msg2920900#msg2920900 date=1223602305]What is still baffling is that the part of the country that has the highest number of illiterate children and Adults, the highest disease rate is the same part that has produced most of our presidents and rulers. [/quote]Enyi oko, stop thinking straight. Use your brain sometimes, that's what it's made for. Their holding on to power as you pinted above and producing most of the rulers of their makeshift country nigeria is because of the military assistance they get from the evil British people. Do you know that all nigeria's military installations/bases are stationed in their northern nigeria enclave and this was made possible by the British for their end means?

It is not a rocket science to know that the British rigged the first census and election in the northerner's favor and that trend have been followed and perfected since then with military force. British did that because they saw in them that muguish trait they are looking for in a people they will trust to hold down and look after the niger delta oil for them after they have left.
The British can't get such guarantee from the Igbos as we will tell them to go Bleep themselves and do things our own rightful way there by making them the British to lose out on the long run which they so much feared then.

Today, try turning the useless one sided power that was created in their favor by the British and see them running down to No 10 Downing Street London for military help/support to quash you, and guess what? their masters the evil British will be more than ever willing to grant them such support without asking questions, since at the long run and what ever may be the outcome, it is still to theirs, the British favor, because according to their evil policy, the niger delta oil must be kept flowing without any hindrance by anyone, even the owners the niger deltans. The recent niger delta uprising and how the British helped to quash it (Yes, Ya'radua went to Britain and seek for military support) readily comes to mind if you have forgotten the case of Biafra then.

So use your brain and don't just open your mouth gbua gbua and say upon their educational backwardness and diseases, they are still ruling the country. You should know why and how that was possible and if you don't know, then ask question. They can't do it by themselves without outside evil forces with military support which happens to be Britain.

Kobojunkie:
A man that has not been to Nigeria in 15 years?? You mean all the trips I have taken, even this years does not count at all Na wa oohh!!! It is ok for you to believe it is a myth. I mean afterall I have heard people tell me that the Nigerian school system is doing great, yet 18 million students are reported to be out of school/have never been to school. There are people who believe that sending their kids back to the public school system down in Nigeria will do them a lot of good and expose them to better information that the kids have access to here. To each his own, right??

I still believe the ibos are not as educated as the yorubas are. If you take a census here of ibos vs yorubas in school, I believe the reality will be that the yorubas outnumber the ibos by far. I mean you do not need to look heard to note that hausas are seriously lagging in that department, both at home and abroad.

First of all, no body except maybe Yorubas and awusas will tell you that your nigeria's school system is doing great. You just created that sentence to buttress your useless points. Every sane human knows that Yoruba and awusa led government have jointly killed the education system in nigeria, but as i said, only the people of those two ethnic groups only believe in the myth created by their fathers that their makeshift country's educational system is among the best in the world.
You still believe that Igbos are not as educated as the Yorubas only in nairaland. Ewu, haven't you see JAMB statistics? ohhh, maybe we should start using nairaland statistics. Even at that, you still won't believe that you Yorubas are no where near Igbos in education. Thanks to the myths created by your fathers that have had a huge impact in the minds of you Yorubas. You believe in reality and that reality is obtained in nairaland and not JAMB statistics? Olodo nairaland reality.

Kobojunkie:
It is not a myth. Is Highschool Education enough in this day and age?? You and I will at least agree that even a college degree does not seem to carry the same clout it used to. High school education, especially in Nigeria, does not expose people to enough information. I have to say, from what I have seen around in the east, I would not consider the educated to be in the majority.

Don't you see how stupid your Yoruba head sounds when cornered? You were prompted by your makeshift myth created by your fathers to deceive you Yorubas that you are more educated than Igbos, and that made you to believe that most Igbo boys don't go to school and when you were  confronted with facts/statistics on ground from primary education to JAMB which says otherwise, you came back pointing out that high school education is not enough in this day and age.
You should be better serving your Yoruba people to get them to enroll into high school first before advising Igbos. the last time i checked, anyone must have gone through high school before dreaming of taking JAMB exam, and JAMB says and has it on fact/record that Igbos are the highest in number year in year out from time immemorial in all university students in your makeshift country nigeria. I wonder which other high school education that those Igbos passed through before taking their JAMB exams. Might be high school education in Cameroun?

Your fathers created a moronic population census to assume that Yorubas are higher in population than the Igbos, yet upon your myth population superiority, your number of students that passed through JAMB aren't anywhere near the Igbo's. Since you claim to be educated more than the Igbos and also higher in population than the Igbos, why aren't you Yorubas with your myth population superiority and myth educational advantage churning out more numbers of university students more than the Igbos?

Calculate the average to see that you Yorubas upon your created myths here and there couldn't make it anywhere more than Igbos in numbers of the educated among the two. Since you claim to be more in number and also better educated than Igbos, it would be fair also for JAMB to state it clear that you have more of the university students in nigeria than Igbos. Ain't it so? or is JAMB also playing ojoro against you Yorubas?
Who knows the impact that this Yoruba created myth would have had on some Igbos if there was nothing like JAMB statistics to make things clear. Some silly Igbos are even buying into their myth that Yorubas and awusas are more in population than them just because there is no accurate census data out there to state otherwise. Thanks to JAMB statistics, but what if JAMB statistics were not there. What would have been the belief?

naijaking1:
You say this about education in Igboland today, because you miserably fail to see that the machine pushing education for Igbo people today was made in the 1960, 70, 80/90s. You also fail to see that most Igbo boys don't go to school any more, ie beyond high school. It's only a matter of time before we the Igbos stagnate educationally, and some people like you don't even seem to notice the danger. No matter how much private support a people recieve for education, government assistance is still very much needed, especially in Nigeria. Biafra?, well wait till then, we have to survive educationally now.
No too much sense! Na too much sense cost us the war, na too much sense make Yoruba people take over the economic machinary of the nation while we ran petit trading all over naija. I beg wake up!

Look at this anumanu trying so hard to be Igbo. Mr Igbo wannabe, you should ask you self wether your cousins, the awusas were sleeping as of  1960, 70, 80/90s when your so called machine which was pushing Igbo education as you claim was made. Anu mpam, that most Igbo boys don't go to school is a myth created by your Yoruba fathers and brothers as there is no bases to back up such ridiculous claim/assumption because all educational statistics in your luggard's cage from primary, secondary and JAMB are claming otherwise and still put Igbos far ahead of others with ernomous increase in every year's school enrollment to acquire the much needed education at all levels. So where is your point??

It is fact that you Yorubas and awusas have created the myth that you are more in population than Igbos when actually the Igbos are the most populated of all ethnic groups in nigeria going by fact. We deal with facts, not myths that was created through inflated and rigged census/population. If you doubt the fact that Igbos are the most populated in nigeria, then scrap this present laughing jakass census you fathers organized and reorganize another census with ETHNICITY AND RELIGION CLEARLY quoted for ticking in all census counting paper and lets see who will be most in number/population after counting.

The last time such was proposed by Igbo leaders, your fathers refused without any concrete reason as they already have their mind made up with inflating the census to assign themselves as more populated than Igbo. Until that is done, your awusa and Yoruba being the most in population will remain a myth just as your mythical "Igbo boys don't go to school"  Igbos are already the second most populated ethnic group in all states of your failed nation out of Igbo areas. So who said they are not the most populated in all of your nigeria? Afix ETHNICITY AND RELIGION in all census counting papers and let's square.

Facts on the ground with all available statistics still indicate that Igbos are in control of your luggard's cage economy and are the richest ethnic group with the highest standard of living in your makeshift country nigeria, yet believing in myth that your Yoruba people taking over the economic machinery of your failed nation will reign supreme in your myopic mind.  You Yorubas are not ashamed to claim to be the best educated in the country, even to the extent of spreading such self wound inflicting rumors in every nigeria forum, yet JAMB and other educational statistics on the ground states otherwise and tilts it to the Igbos. We deal with facts, not myth.

Government assistance my arrssss. We don't have to wait for your fathers with your useless government assistance while jeopardizing the educational future of our children as you have done to yours despiet connering all the oil money of the niger deltans. We have enough money through our private sector to send our children to school. You should do yourselves a favor and use that your government rubbish whatever money to send your own children to school so they can try and see if they can meet up with our children. Stop leaving your children at home to the menace of amala and tuwo. Anuofia nwuru anwu. Iche n' ide nonsense a idere, ome gi iburu onye Igbo otomatikali. Ewu awusa.

Dreamer, good morning. You want to use this online forum to do what? Why don't you go and tell your brothers to relinquish the control of the oil to the people that it belongs to? That is if you are sincere to yourself. Don't you think that will bring the immediate peace you claim to be seeking for in the niger delta, or is it a case of misplacing your priority?

youngies:
You don't get it, what QuotaSyste was saying is that in as much people who should know feels comfortable spelling Igbo Ibo, he too finds it acceptable to spell Yoruba Yoruba or Hausa as Awusa. Nothing gained nothins lost.

Don't mind those Yoruba and awusa fools.

Nasogold:
JUST A PIECE OF ADVICE: AS IT HAS BEEN OBSERVED THAT THE NORTH NEEDS TO GO TO SCHOOL, PLEASE LET THEM NOT FIGHT IT BUT GET BACK TO SCHOOL. 'GO TO SCHOOL' IS A GOOD ADVICE. THANK GOD IT WAS THE WORLD BANK THAT MADE THE OBSERVATION. IF NOT, , THEY FOR DON CARRY MATCHET AND DAGA TO KILL THE IBOS AND BURN THEIR SHOPS.
ADVICE NO BE CURSE OHHH!

Even that will not stop them from Igbo killing spree which they so much love to do. After all, Igbos had nothing to do with mohamed carton in far away Denmark, yet they killed the Igbos becuase of that. Ask tpia and his cohorts here how many Igbos they killed today in their northern enclave.

Fhemmmy:
Inasmuch as i blame North for their own wahala, i still don't support that they should break away.

Look at this slave. What then are you afraid of? Can't you and your people rule yourselves? Then you will not have to contend with the everyday fear of Igbo domination (therefore we should do everything to hold them down while also holding ourselves down) which is the root cause of under development today in your country nigeria.

naijaking1:
Underestimate the power of sustained public relation effort, and northern political machinations at your own peril.
If you allocate #1million for 100 children in the north and same amount for 10,000 children in the south, then no one needs to tell you that it's only a question of time before people stop going to school in the south.

You have to think sometimes before you write. Have they not been allocating far more than that to lesser number of their children in the past? Today is 2008, where is their education? Have they been allocating anything in the past for Igbo children's education? We are in 2008 and Igbos are the most educated in your nigeria, so what's your point? Fact is, allocation or no allocation, we Igbos have our own personal money to use to send our children to school. We have never depended on and will never depend on that awusa/Yoruba government for any thing. Once we get our country Biafra, you will come and see what educational development is all about. Northern political machinations my foot. Do brainless people know anything about politics if not through barrel of gun? Nonsense!!!

Same batton have been handed over to their sons and daughters. Do you see the myopic reasonings of these awusa and Yoruba sons and daughters as was passed unto them by their wicked fathers? Tomorrow, they will be the first to tell you that nigeria's problem is only by the elite. See them, ordinary members of the public supporting evil that is being perpatrated by their fathers against Igbo. Nigeria's problem is only by the elite my foot. Morons.

mon amie:
@ QuotaSyste

I personally feel you are not intellectual enough to deserve my attention coupled with my observation that you seem so frustrated by virtue of your under-achievement. Seek help.

Illiterate, when you are connered, you will start spewing rubish. Na your mullah fore fathers get the oil for niger delta. Ewu awusa, why don't you come up with the revenue sharing formula before oil was discovered in niger delta? Idiot, you can change handle again and come back. Am ready to send you packing again.

@Deep Zone

Can you say something for once without adding tribal sentiments in it?

Akpa dirty, you are worse and the champion of tribal sentiments in this forum. I can dig up your rubbish comments and stare them in your face now. Ewu. See who is talking. Anumanu.

keba:
The British relinquished power to them and they had every opportunity to be ahead of the south in all ramifications but i wonder what their leaders
were doing while Awolowo was sending His people to school and after four decades, the rest of the south are even ahead of them. Ooh i remember,
they were holding tight to power . Well, as RichlyBlack has stated, they actually can if their leaders start something positive now.

And have you ever wondered why the British relinquished power to them? Because they saw in them this educational disadvantage as the sleeping and ignorant people they can easily deal with and also saw in the them as the willing mugus, idiots, imbeciles and illiterates that will be willing at any time they call on them to do their bidding of holding the whole country down with the barrel of gun (with steady military assistance from Britain) while they the evil British continue to milk the country dry. Ever wondered why yar'adua quickly run to their masters, the British to seek for military support to quell the niger delta uprising? Ever wondered why those evil British people quickly yielded to his request instead of telling him to seek for diplomatic/dialogue means to solve the problem?
The British before they left knew very well that they dare not make such mistake with the Igbos who can't take that bullcrap as they will lose out immediately they leave their cage. Despite them cornering all the money from the niger delta oil, where is it in their education? Yet the Igbos they connived with the British and the Yorubas to arrest their development knew better to invest in their children's education from their personal pockets.

naijaking1:
North this, north that!
This is another public relation attempt to justify shifting educational resources from the south to the north.
People wake up!

If they like, they can shift it to Chad and even Niger republic. That doesn't take anything away from Igbo people that phuck out their children's school fees from their own personal pockets to make sure that their children obtains the much needed education. Today, JAMB and other educational statistics can tell you with facts that Igbos are the most educated in nigeria and this is despite having no support from the so called federal government of their so called ONE nigeria.
You sound as if nigeria have ever paid any kobo for the education of any Igbo person. Upon all these glaring facts plus others, yet some people want Igbos to remain in the same country with this irritants, parasites and illiterates and wait for them to catch up while derailing the supposed fast pace of Igbo development. Where and when and how many years do you think these sleeping people need to use to finally catch up with others? Go to their nigerian military, it is the same where enrollment grade starts from JSS3 just to make sure they accommodate more northerners in their mediocre military because most can not even finish there SS education. Yet, some ignorant people in the name of arrs licking will hail their military as the best in Africa. Nonsense!!!

bettes:
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Well you can give whatever excuses you wish to(typo indeed!!) and shell as many times as you wish it does not change the fact that you need to check yourself before you start critising others,there are books i can recommend for you that can help you improve on your spelling problems.
Again it is 'YORUBA' not 'Yoruba' and 'FAILED' not 'FAILD'
Are you sure you finished nursery school ?

I don't have time for OROBO Yoruba like you.

tpia:
nigeria1: since when do you constitute 99% of the Yorubas? maybe you meant to type 0.0009%?

So you're hoping Yaradua will make you a minister? Interesting.

not even considering the fact that you're probably not even Yoruba, now you've suddenly turned to 99% of Yoruba.

na wa.

Why do you think he is not Yoruba? Because he is saying what most Yorubas can not dare say because of their connivance with your awusa people in milking the niger deltans dry of their oil and plunging nigeria as a whole into the misery it found itself today? For you he is sounding Igbo because he is in support of constituional review which to you and your illiterate awusa people is a nightmare.

Ewu, where is your proof that Biafra and not nigeria reneged on the Aburi accord? Seems your idiot self have finally found out how stupid you have been potraying yourself by insinuating that it was Biafra that reneged on Aburi accord. Anu mpam.

bettes:
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This is a case of a pot calling a kettle black,the correct spelling is 'YORUBA' not 'Yoruba' and 'SHOULD' not 'SHOUDL'.
No bashing intended.

Akpa dirty, it is Yoruba and you should know that shoudl is a typo as against him and other Yorubas in this forum that frequently use as in place of has as your amala accent directs you. That's why you faild your common entrance examination. Ewu.

That is why their lives depends so much on the oil in niger delta and they use turns to destroy and set back the educational system in nigeria so their illiterate people can catch up. That is why they doesn't want to relinquish power and the evil British are ever ready to support them with arms to use in holding and arresting the development of others so they the British can keep on milking nigeria dry with the aid of this their mugu and imbecilic friends.