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Politics › Re: NAF Alpha Jets Conducted Four Airstrikes Against Boko Haram in 24hrs by rabzy: 10:36am On Mar 05, 2015
ichidodo:
[color=#1980BC] Not trying to rain on anyone's parade but Alpha jets?.. In this century?!...That sh**t is way older than we..The least we expect by now is the Airforce to have upgraded its fighter fleet even if its third-hand Sukhois and Mig Foxbats....throw in a couple Tupolev Black jack Bombers and we just might be the strongest aerial force in West Africa. [/color]
Many people just look for news item and latch onto to them as if that is the ultimate truth. We have Alpha jets and they can still outrun and rain down death on BH ragtag army. So the Nigerian Airforce should use them to achieve whatever they can achieve. But if you think that is all NAF has, then you are seriously mistaken. The FG has purchased other attack/assault Helos and many of them have already been used.

These are some of NAF's recent purchases. Google their pics and see what they are.
MI24 Hind Helo, MI 17, MI 171sh, MI35M.

These are modern crafts that NAF can be proud off. Just check the MI 171sh


This is the MI 24
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Russian_Air_Force_Mil_Mi-24PN_Dvurekov-6.jpg/300px-Russian_Air_Force_Mil_Mi-24PN_Dvurekov-6.jpg
Education › Re: Quick Shots: Crazy Nigerian Secondary School Names. by rabzy: 6:23pm On Mar 02, 2015
Meti99:
Whatsapp International Diplomatic Nursery and Primary School, Orile Iganmu Agege Lagos

What about that?
U nor even try at all. Orile iganmu America ni
Christianity Etc › Re: Man Arrested For Duping Winners Chapel Of N77million (picture) by rabzy: 9:42pm On Feb 28, 2015
Jeromejnr:
My man. I didn't threaten. I was just giving a piece of advise based on things I have seen. Some people have a special grace on their lives.

After all remember Moses and his sister Miriam, when she reproved him for marrying interracially. God punished her for that.
I don't know of any special grace, the grace of God is what gives the opportunity of eternal life and its for everybody that works for it. In the bible some people are anointed for special purposes. Moses was anointed to be a deliveral, so he did special things because of what he had to do. It is not the person but the purpose. The moment he loses purpose he becomes an unfavorable vessel.
Miriam and Aaron wrongfully murmured againts Moses, they were undermining his authority by using the excuse of his foreign wife to elevate themselves. When Moses married there was no law against marrying a foreigner, he was a fugitive and he married where he resided. They were wrong and were punished.

When Moses also did the same thing by cursing the assembly of God and not giving due glory to God. He was sentenced to death. No special anointing covered him, he was wrong and he was severely punished, God even accepted a plea bargain for miriam but he didn't for Moses. He had to die.

So if you are wrong, you are wrong and should be corrected no matter who you are. Am sure moses would have preferred that a little boy had scolded/corrected him before he made the blunder that cost him his life.

Any man of God who refuse scolding, correction and is wearing a toga of anointing as shield is just digging his grave.
Christianity Etc › Re: Man Arrested For Duping Winners Chapel Of N77million (picture) by rabzy: 5:40pm On Feb 28, 2015
Ilaje44:
So their holy ghost did not reveal to them that the documents were not original or they failed to pray about it? tongue
No I thot bad things don't happen to real christians, they are above all things bad, no weapon fashioned against xtians will never prevail. If they have God their business can't fail, they can't fall sick, they can't have any misfortune. That's the big lie pastors spread around and people just believe, because they want to be superman. Bad tins happened to the prophets
Christianity Etc › Re: Man Arrested For Duping Winners Chapel Of N77million (picture) by rabzy: 5:33pm On Feb 28, 2015
Jeromejnr:
Oga repent. Cause I've seen things happen to people who talked ill especially about the overseer.

P.S: I hate it when people just assume things because they heard other people say something and they didn't go to experience or find out for themselves if its true or not.
You people love threats a lot, you think God is a gun u just pull out of your pockets and threathen people with or kill people with. So if someone talks ill of your pastor then God will make bad things happen to them. Are you guys serious. Do you know how many billions of people talk ill of God everyday and God just look at them as ignorant people who does not know their left from right. Who then is your pastor.
Sports › Re: Nigeria Vs South Africa: CAF U17 Championship (0 - 1) On 25th Feb 2015 by rabzy: 9:47pm On Feb 24, 2015
BluIvy:
First of all, thanks for admitting that cheating was a regular thing for Naija. Now they say, once a cheat always a cheat. tongue
So na u born all the baboona baboona wey u take no say dem no pass 17 years. So don't be so gungho about what you can't absolutely prove.
Politics › Re: BOKO HARAM: Battle-field Account Of A Military Deserter by rabzy: 8:20am On Feb 21, 2015
Randerl:
Bro you have saidit all.

These immoral thieves told the C-in-C that a force of Twenty Thousand was deployed for the Ops yet corruption was the order at the NE Ops. It took the combined efforts of the 2000 Chadians Soldiers and Cameroun to expose our hypocrisy. l
Please don't mention the chadians and cameroonians. What have they done, when did they join d war, and what have they done that the Nigerian army has not done 10 fold. BH has turned these countries into launching pads and if not the outcry of the NA and subsequently france's pressure they would have still be sitting on their asses.
Politics › Re: Tension Between France & Cameroun Over Captured French Boko Haram Fighters by rabzy: 4:15pm On Feb 20, 2015
Boko haram's caliphate has always been in chad niger and cameroon. They prosecute a guerilla warfare here, attack and rob people on the highway, attack remote villages and kill indiscrinately and fiy their filthy flags for some few hours or days and then run into these countries when they are attacked.
They have sunk boreholes, employed staff to m$anage their holdings and also get cheap idiots to fight for them in neighboring countries.

Once those communities still exist and thriving we can't defeat them, anbd that is why chad Niger and cameroon needs to see the threat these bastards pose and finish them off. I pray this tempo is sustained by all involved.
Agriculture › Re: Tissue Cultured Hybrid Suckers: Your Best Bet For Plantain Farming Success by rabzy: 7:19pm On Feb 16, 2015
Lesgupnigeria:
I understand all what you mean.
i will answer all your questions and expansiate better with step by step pictures and videos very soon.
I will give it out for free only for agropreneurs and strictly for plantain farmers.
please bear with me.
thanks
Good one eagerly waiting.
Agriculture › Re: Hidden Truths About Plantain Farming Business by rabzy: 7:10pm On Feb 16, 2015
Please can you say something about efficient irrigation. if one has a hectare how do you efficiently irrigate
Agriculture › Re: Hidden Truths About Plantain Farming Business by rabzy: 9:05pm On Feb 13, 2015
Lesgupnigeria:
The beauty of plantain farming
More suckers as the parent crop matures.
Farms Does not need to.be re-established.
Ogede ku ofi omore ropo. Word
Politics › Re: The Great Oba Of Benin Is Dead by rabzy: 7:54pm On Feb 13, 2015
Otenestbestyaho:
Acclaimed man of God, Apostle Johnson Suleiman has released what he believed would happen in this New Year. One of his prophecies was that 2015 election would be a replica of June 12. He said Jonathan should be prayerful as there are plans to kill him. Suleiman who head the Auchi-based Omega Fire Ministries also said the queen of England and Shehu Shagari may die.

1.There shall be harvest of testimonies for women looking for fruit of the womb.

2. President Obama needs serious prayers for his health.

3. I see a woman becoming the president of America, but her health needs attention.

4. Britain needs prayers because of her Queen.



5. I entered the house of former president Shehu Shagari in the spirit and I saw RIP; he needs prayers.

6. There shall be agricultural boom this year.

7. I saw Catholic Reverend Fathers getting married. I saw a group rising, called “Old Catholic Church”, they were on fire for God and caused a revolution.

8. Boko Haram is sponsored by two people; one is a traditional ruler and the other is a retired General.

9. Nollywood should stop Unclothedness and immoral content been shown because God is not happy.

10. Bola Tinubu, Bode George and king of Onitsha need prayers.

11. A great Pentecostal man of God been called to glory. I wept.

12. I see president Goodluck Jonathan coming back but troubles.

13. I saw people crying in the Oba of Benin’s house.

14. Libyan election to be cancelled.

15. El Rufai should go and sit down. For abusing Jesus, he will not win Kaduna election.

16. Brigade Commander Aso rock should be changed.

17. Buhari’s health needs attention.

18. Aminu Tambuwal, I saw him leading Sokoto State.

19. Dangote will not have it smooth this year; he will drop from Africa’s richest.

20. Patience Jonathan needs serious prayers.

21. Egypt will have elections.

22. 2015 presidential election will be rigged, marred in violence and end up in court case.

23. Thank you Jesus! Finally a Christian is now the governor of Lagos state.

24. A popular Abuja pastor needs serious prayers. I saw mourning.

25. I saw the Naira falling greatly. It became N200 (two hundred naira) to 1$ (a dollar).

26. I saw Cameroonian soldiers killing Boko Haram soldiers.

27. Prophets who deceive people, collects their properties, charge money, will face great judgment this year.

28. Rochas Okorocha; I saw him moving to PDP.

29. Contrary to most prophecies, Nigeria will not break up.

30. Nigerian Government will start fighting the Gospel and men of God.

31. Military leaders will be changed.

32. There will be plan to kill Goodluck Jonathan but it will be exposed.

33. I saw governor Amosun return.

34. APC Rivers State needs to do grass root campaign because I saw the election been rigged for PDP. Prayers are needed because of so much bloodshed.

35. Three popular musicians will die; one of them is a young boy.

36. Former President Obasanjo should go and make peace with God, Nigeria is not his problem.

37. The retired Army General one of the sponsors of Bokoharam, God warned him recently with his health. The next, God will take his life.

38. I saw a man win Governorship but not allowed to govern.

39. I saw attention in Delta state moved to Agbor.

40. President Gooluck Jonathan should arrest corrupt leaders. His calmness is what is empowering them to steal.

41. I saw people who resigned as ministers to contest election return back as Federal ministers.

42. I see so much food in Nigeria in 2015.

43. I saw major death in China (I saw group of kids killed)

44. A great man of God whose first name begins with 3rd letter and Surname with 15th letter needs serious prayers. I saw serious crisis and crying. Please let’s pray for him.

45. Let’s pray against military intervention and interim government.

46. President election inconclusive, yet Jonathan declared winner. APC Pray!

47. I don’t see Buhari with credentials to vie for president.

48. Ghana economy to have terrible and serious crisis.

49. With the level of bloodshed I saw, it was better Goodluck goes now to his village quietly.

50. 2015 election is another June 12. The man who truly won will not govern or rule.

51. Arik Airline to pray against disaster.

52. I saw people crying in Alex Ekwueme’s house. Why are they crying?

53. I saw upsurge around bar beach taking people’s lives, water overrunning and bringing down buildings.

54. Pray against three major Air disasters between February and October.

55. I saw a king in Zulu (South Africa) taking a bow.

56. Emmanuel Iwuanyanwu needs serious prayer against mourning and death.

57. I saw Niger Delta militants become so powerful and influential in government.

58. God is not happy with Nigerian government for handling power problem.

59. Lawyers will make so much money in 2015.

60. Chief E.K, Clark should pray, not a good year for him.

61. Great men of god to rise in Namibia, Ghana, Nigeria and Europe
http://dailypost.ng/2015/01/05/ostle-sulemans-2015-prophecies-general-election-another-june-12-buharis-health-needs-attention/


Number 13 has been fulfiled
13. I saw people crying in the Oba of Benin’s house.
70 percent of these are no prophesies but speculations. Read the bible and know what prophesies are. What this tells me is that the man reads a lot of newspapers.

He said Buhari will not vie for president because of credentials, if dat is true, buhari is out of the picture, then he said the elction would be like june 12, in which the winner is dnied, he also said the election is inconclusive. So how do you know d winner when the elction is inconclusive. He said Jonathan will be the president, and buhari is out, so who then is the real winner that would be denied. I don't even know anyone else apart from Gej and Gmb, so who is this person that would win the election but denied.

Maybe he should have prophesied about the postponement, I guess there was no indication of that in d papers last year so one prophesied it.

Read the Bible and stop paying attention to tales.
Sports › Re: Ivory Coast Vs Ghana: AFCON 2015 Final (9 - 8) On Penalties On 8th Feb 2015 by rabzy: 10:31pm On Feb 08, 2015
This referee is so not it.
Sports › Re: Ivory Coast Vs Ghana: AFCON 2015 Final (9 - 8) On Penalties On 8th Feb 2015 by rabzy: 10:15pm On Feb 08, 2015
Why is yaya taking corners nah, he should be in d 18, he is tall and srong and he can stay just outside d box and hammer any cleared ball. What'sin taking corners that he has to b one taking it.
Ghana is so unlike themselves, they used to have drive, passion and spirit but its being dull from dem.
Sports › Re: Ivory Coast Vs Ghana: AFCON 2015 Final (9 - 8) On Penalties On 8th Feb 2015 by rabzy: 9:52pm On Feb 08, 2015
This referee is painfully average. And the gane is awfully below average.
Sports › Re: Ghana Vs Guinea: AFCON 2015 (3 - 0) On 31st January 2015 by rabzy: 5:06pm On Feb 01, 2015
This ref needs to be watched
Sports › Re: Ghana Vs Guinea: AFCON 2015 (3 - 0) On 31st January 2015 by rabzy: 5:05pm On Feb 01, 2015
Why does ghana play rough all the time. You can always guarantee they would hit your leg all the time
Christianity Etc › Re: What Actually Happened Before Genesis Chapter 1??? by rabzy: 9:12am On Jan 24, 2015
There is nothing someone will not hear in this life. The passion and devotion we give to our beliefs is also intrigueing. Genesis 1:1 is a broad statement, a summary of all of God's creative actions. When he started in time nobody knows. The creation of the material earth predates 6000 years.
Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Oyinbo Princess - Reaching Out!! Make Una Read Ooo........... by rabzy: 3:34pm On Jan 09, 2015
Sofly Sofly kolor for dis country o....We don get enuf kolormental for here no come add your own join, because oyinbo kolor na another dimension patapata. The mixture of the two go dey bad seriously.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by rabzy: 2:08pm On Jan 09, 2015
PastorAIO:
But you don't know the men who wrote the scriptures either. You don't, apparently, need to know the prophet before you can choose to believe him or not. If only those who were alive during the time of Enoch can choose to believe him or not, then only those who were around when the bible was been written can choose to believe it or not.

Besides, you are wrong when you say it is only through the scriptures (by which I believe you mean the bible) that you can know what Enoch taught. The Book of Enoch is there too.


But The prophesies of Enoch were contained in the book of Enoch. and it wasn't just for the men of his time because his prophecies were still being quoted by the time of Jude.

Like I said it may have been passed down through family oral tradition or revealed to Jude...

What is/are the evidence/s of God's backing in them that you would see? Miracles? Not necessarily.



What about if he got it from the book of Enoch? Book of enoch was already in existence and people knew it, why would God then specially reveal something to him when the revelation already exists in a popular book.

And if he got it from Jewish Oral tradition then I have to ask you whether you believe that Jewish Oral tradition has scriptural Authority.


Does epimenides' words have scriptural authority? it is a very simple question. What about for those who believed and respected the poet, Did it have scriptural authority for them? They were christians, remember.

What do you mean? Before Matthew even wrote it? It had scriptural authority before he even wrote it? It was already being used by the christian community before he even wrote it?

I didn't ask you this.
1. U dont seem to understand me, Noah wrote no book and i was not there when he prophesied, so the only way i believed in Noah was because another inspired writer wrote about him. I have reasons for believing the books written by Moses is inspired, so i believe what is written therein.

2. The book of Enoch is not an authority for my beliefs. If you have reasons to believe it as inspired and everything there as truth, well that is your personal conviction. I am not convinced to believe it.

3. I think everything on this discussion centres on the book of Enoch, Maybe you should let me know why you believe in it.

This has been answered. If a part of Jewish oral tradition is mentioned as a fact in the Bible, then it has scriptural authority for the purpose for which it was quoted. Those that are true but not in the scriptures are just what they are...true facts and not scriptural facts.
e.g Is Ra a god worshiped by Ancient Egyptians, true fact, but not a scriptural fact, was Josephus a Jewish historian yes, but not a scriptural fact.

Do the christians believe epimenides to be a prophet, do they see his writings as inspired by God.. do they use his writings as articles of faith. That answers the question.

I believe you know what i mean, the moment matthew wrote them, it became a scripture so for all Christians who didnt hear Matthew firsthand his book serve as basis, a scripture to base their faiths and beliefs.

I never said you did.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrines Of The Jehovah Witnesses Vs The Holy Bible Of God by rabzy: 12:39pm On Jan 09, 2015
ProphetUdeme:
bro those above bible versions that u mentioned are nothing but counterfeit.. The two approved bibles are the Authorised King James Version and the Gideons International, all other versions are in no difference with the new world translation cos they all descended from the heretic writers
Approved by who? God Almighty,The Pope or the King of England. Do research on copyist errors in King James Version.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrines Of The Jehovah Witnesses Vs The Holy Bible Of God by rabzy: 12:37pm On Jan 09, 2015
Anas09:
Watch out for one common factor amongst the groups operAting under the Spirit of the anti-christ. They don't have a problem with the concept of God, their problem is the CHRIST. All of them. Some are out right, in their rejection of the divinty of Christ but some are very subtle, like the JW. You have to have a revelation of Christ via the Word for you to catch them. Those guys are very Good. I came to the brink of joining them yrs ago, but I discovered there was something they r fighting against wen it came to Christ and the Holy spirit. I went into more study, then flushed them out. Satan can not accept who christ is, check all the rpoints raised, they all revolve around Christ. Who ever fights these points fights Christ, and Christianity is all abt Christ.
Hello Sir, Nobody is fighting Christ, we accept him as revealed in the scriptures, our savior and redeemer, the Powerful and Eternal Son of God. The King of God's Kingdom. The Only way to God.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrines Of The Jehovah Witnesses Vs The Holy Bible Of God by rabzy: 12:23pm On Jan 09, 2015
Anas09:
The approved Bible for the JW is New Word Translation. These verses of the scriptures are ommitted there; Matt 18vs 11, Matt, 17 vs 21, Matt 23 vs 14, Mk 9 vs44, Mk. 11vs26, LK 23 vs 17. Acts 24 vs 7, these r all missing ommitted. Can someone explain it to Us? That Bible refers to Jesus as a god, in John 1ves 1 and refers to Jesus as angel. Wen God himself called immanuel the ALMIGHTY GOD. In. Isa 9 vs 6. Only those who will not search the scriptures for themselves will be decieved.
The Bible said seek the truth and it shall set you free.
First it is not only the witnesses who has omitted these verses from the Bible. I will use the example of the fist one Matthew 18:11.
The verse is also omitted from the following bibles:
NIV: New International Standard
RSV: Revised Standard Version
NLV: New Living Translation
ESV: English Standard version
AMP: Amplified Bible: Omission noted in footnote
More than 20 versions of the Bible don't have this verse or explained it in the footnote

Why Is It Missing? The verse is missing from some of the Bibles because the passage does not actually appear in the best early Greek manuscripts which contain Matthew. It is important to remember that the New Testament was written in Greek. These original documents called "autographs" were copied and passed from one person to another. In the process of making copies, errors would occur sometimes. Sometimes words were misspelled, words were left out, and on rare occasions, some copyists would insert some words. Today there are more than 5,000 thousands ancient manuscripts of the New Testament in our possession. By using a process called Textual Criticism we have been able to determine very accurately how the original"autographs" should read. A better explanation of textual criticism and the accuracy of our Bible is available from an article at the following link, "How Accurate Is The Bible?" The conclusion of that article says that the Bible is 99.9% accurate. There is no other ancient book in existence with so many copies and with so little error. The Bible is really unique. The Bible is very accurate!
Textual criticism has determined that verse 11 should not occur in Matthew 18. The Expositor's Bible Commentary, edited by Frank Gaebelein says that verse was "Omitted in the earliest witnesses of the Alexandria, pre-Caesarean, Egyptian, and Antiochene text types" (Vol. 8, p. 401).
Another Thought. It appears someone borrowed Luke 19:10 and copied and modified it into Matthew 18. Here is both Mathew 18:10 and Luke 19:10,
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrines Of The Jehovah Witnesses Vs The Holy Bible Of God by rabzy:
paulGrundy:
I have just concluded my scriptural research on this subject, and yes you are very correct. smiley
Wow, am shocked. We thank Jehovah. Cheers and take care.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrines Of The Jehovah Witnesses Vs The Holy Bible Of God by rabzy:
paulGrundy:
grin grin grin. Ok am sorry sir/ma?? For the insult I never meant it that way.



#i wonder which which other excuse would be used again#
As to the Quickening which you cited and expatiated on.
This is an explanation of the term:

Two balanced phrases state the result: "having been put to
death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit." The Greek
construction is identical in each phrase, indicating intended
balance and correspondence between them.
"Having been put to death in the flesh" declares the violent
death of Jesus, terminating His life as a man here on earth. Men
took violent action against Him to procure His death. "Flesh"
(sarki>, used without an article, is qualitative and refers to the
humanity He assumed at the Incarnation (John 1:14; 1 Tim.
3:16) and characterizes Him as a man among men here on earth.
He was no Docetic phantom who only appeared to have a body.
"But made alive in the spirit" declares a glorious antithesis.
God acted to bring Him to life again (cf. Rom. 8:11; 1 Pet. 1:21).
Some interpreters hold that the reference here is not to Christ's
bodily resurrection but rather pictures the quickening of His
spirit, which, set free from the limitations of His body, entered
into a new life in the spiritual realm and engaged in spiritual
activities in the spiritual world.6
But the antithetical structure of these two clauses more
naturally suggests His resurrection as over against His death.
The verb (z&opoihqei>j), used in ten other places in the New
Testament, refers to the resurrection of the dead (John 5:21
[twice]; Rom. 5:17; 8:11; 1 Cor. 15:22, 36, 45) or denotes the
giving of spiritual life (John 6:63; 2 Cor. 3:6; Gal. 3:21). It clearly
means to give life where before it had ceased to be or where it had
never been. In Romans 8:11 it is used synonymously with "raise
up" (e]geo>rw) and asserts resurrection. Christ's redemptive victory
was not complete until His resurrection. The expression does not
refer to a quickening of His disembodied spirit which did not die.
The balanced grammatical structure also implies an antithesis
between "flesh" (sarki> and "spirit" (pneu<mati), suggesting
that the two nouns should be taken in the same case.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrines Of The Jehovah Witnesses Vs The Holy Bible Of God by rabzy: 1:42pm On Jan 07, 2015
paulGrundy:
Which temple did Jesus say would be destroyed, and then in 3days he would be raised up again?? Answer.

1 Peter 3:18-19King James Version (KJV)

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
Jesus was talking about his death and resurrection, he would be put to death and resurrected back to life. He was put to death in a fleshly body but was resurrected with a spirit body.

My reasons for saying this is based on
1 Cor 14:40-45 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: "The first Adam became a living being"; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

It's the same with the resurrection of the dead: a rotting body is put into the ground, but what is raised won't ever decay. 43 It's degraded when it's put into the ground, but it's raised in glory. It's weak when it's put into the ground, but it's raised in power. 44 It's a physical body when it's put into the ground, but it's raised as a spiritual body. If there's a physical body, there's also a spiritual body. 45 So it is also written, The first human, Adam, became a living person, and the last Adam became a spirit that gives life. 46 But the physical body comes first, not the spiritual one—the spiritual body comes afterward

This verse was plainly saying there are two bodies physical and spiritual and that at the resurrection of Jesus, he was sown in corruption but was raised up as a spirit.
2nd Evidence
1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, in order to bring you to God. He was put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit….New Revised Standard

For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit,..English Standard Version

For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God.He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit….Today’s New International Version

For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us toGod, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit…New American Standard
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrines Of The Jehovah Witnesses Vs The Holy Bible Of God by rabzy:
paulGrundy:
Very selfish of you. with a closed mind You want me to swallow your doctrine hook line and sinker, without giving room for questioning or skeptism. You have failed. Remember the borean christains, apostle paul commended them for their wisdom, demonstrated by going back to the scriptures to confirm if his teachings align with scripture. Its only a foolish man that will believe everything he was told without investigating in scripture and opening his mind to other scriptural interpretations. Keep believing! Probably when the watchtower reverts to her early stance! You'll still believe. One day if they say jesus didn't die and rise again you will still believe. Beliver. cheesy
If you fail to see that i refused to read further because you insulted me and you still went on with the same insulting speech, then i wonder why i should bother converse with you. If you don't know how to converse civilly and with respect, we have no further need to talk. My dis-continuing this conversation is not because am not giving room for questioning and criticism.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrines Of The Jehovah Witnesses Vs The Holy Bible Of God by rabzy: 9:11am On Jan 07, 2015
paulGrundy:
What is this one saying?? Which temple did Jesus say would be destroyed, and then in 3days he would be raised up again?? Answer.
Don't refer to me as 'this one'.

i wont bother reading what you have written.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by rabzy:
PastorAIO:
Okay, but you believe that the part quoted has scriptural authority because it is in the bible. Before it was quoted in the bible, did it have scriptural authority, or is it only when it became quoted in the bible that it had scriptural authority?

When Paul quotes the greek prophet Epimenides, did that give Epimenides' words scriptural authority?

Before the bible was canonized and the gospel of Matthew was included in it, Did Matthew's gospel have scriptural authority?
Enoch prophesied to the early ungodly men, those people knew him, they are the ones that can choose to believe him or not, his prophesies were definitely well known then, but a lot didnt believe him. When Noah came he preached the same message, he got the same reception. These men were inspired by God to do what they did, but we would not have known or come to believe them if it was not recorded by other men of God in the scriptures.
Moses inspired books revealed Noah and Enoch to us and they became confirmed and inspired prophets. If i was there when these prophets were alive and i see evidence of God's backing in them, then I could choose to believe or not, but since i was not, then the only authority on which i will accept that they were God's prophet is their confirmation by the scriptures

Jude later mentioned specific statements of Enoch, whether he got it from Jewish oral tradition or God specially revealed it to him i don't know, but the moment he mentioned it in his book, then it becomes confirmed to me.

Paul himself mentioned the context at which he quoted the poet, he used the poet's words to buttress a point to those who believed and respected the poet. I have never read the poet's book nor know if he exists, the scriptural authority i have from this is that; the poet really lived and he said those words Paul quoted.

The moment matthew was commissioned to write his gospel, it is already a scripture. it is already being used by the christian community as an inspired scripture with full authority.

Canonization is the collation of all genuine inspired books and rejection of spurious ones.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Book Of Enoch And Should It Be In The Bible? by rabzy: 3:58pm On Jan 06, 2015
PastorAIO:
So you don't believe that the prophecies of Enoch had scriptural authority.
For me what authenticates Enoch's prophesy is the one i see in the scriptures, if its not in the scriptures then it might be true he said it, i may even believe he said it if the statements accredited to him is in line with what i know from the scriptures but it wont still have scriptural authority because those exact statements are not in the scriptures.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrines Of The Jehovah Witnesses Vs The Holy Bible Of God by rabzy: 3:45pm On Jan 06, 2015
paulGrundy:
We are basically saying the same thing. Go back and re-read my post.

See this verse:
John 2:19-21

19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." 20 The Jews then said, "It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?" 21 But he spoke of the temple of his body

1 Timothy 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: [size=23pt]God was manifest in the flesh[/size], justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Between the bible and the watchtower, who do you think is saying the truth?
And to the GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH....that was not the original rendition, that is one of the sly attempts people used to put false trinity doctrine into the Bible. In the most extant manuscripts it is rendered 'He Who was Manifest in the flesh'.

New International Version
Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.

New Living Translation
Without question, this is the great mystery of our faith: Christ was revealed in a human body and vindicated by the Spirit. He was seen by angels and announced to the nations. He was believed in throughout the world and taken to heaven in glory.

English Standard Version
Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.

New American Standard Bible
By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
And most certainly, the mystery of godliness is great: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.

International Standard Version
By common confession, the secret of our godly worship is great: In flesh was he revealed to sight, kept righteous by the Spirit's might, adored by angels singing. To nations was he manifest, believing souls found peace and rest, our Lord in heaven reigning!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrines Of The Jehovah Witnesses Vs The Holy Bible Of God by rabzy: 3:35pm On Jan 06, 2015
paulGrundy:
We are basically saying the same thing. Go back and re-read my post.

See this verse:
John 2:19-21

19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." 20 The Jews then said, "It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?" 21 But he spoke of the temple of his body

1 Timothy 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: [size=23pt]God was manifest in the flesh[/size], justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Between the bible and the watchtower, who do you think is saying the truth?
Jesus christ will die and be resurrected in 3 days, The temple of his physical body was destroyed but God raised him up with a spirit body. (1 Corinthians 15:44) It is sown a physical body; it is raised up a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one.

Jesus himself said: “For a fact, the bread that I shall give is my flesh in behalf of the life of the world.” (Joh 6:51) It follows that Christ could not take his body back again in the resurrection, thereby taking back the sacrifice offered to God for mankind

I dont know how your second bible quote shows that Jesus was raised up with a fleshly body.

This is what the Bible says: 1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, in order to bring you to God. He was put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit….New Revised Standard

For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit,..English Standard Version

For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God.He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit….Today’s New International Version

For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us toGod, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit…New American Standard

For also Christ once died for our sins, he just for unjust, that he should offer to God us [that he should offer us to God], made dead in flesh, but made quick in Spirit. Wycliff

For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that He might bring you to God, after being put to death in the fleshly realm but made alive in the spiritual realm…Holman Christian Standard

Because Christ once went through pain for sins, the upright one taking the place of sinners, so that through him we might come back to God; being put to death in the flesh, but given life in the Spirit…Bible in Basic English

for Christ indeed has once suffered for sins, [the] just for [the] unjust, that he might bring us to God; being put to death in flesh, but made alive in [the] Spirit,…Darby Translation

This is what the 'watchtower' believes and it is exactly what the Bible teaches.

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