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Iku jare Eda the first Fadeyi Oloro

Fadeyi Aja dudu

ruffDiamond:
Wait, what about Charles Olumo? ( Agbako)?,who you think bad pass.?agbako is one helluva actor!!!I believe strongly he adopted that name from Duro Fagunwa ferocious villain in his famous book,Ogboju Ode Ninu Igbo Irumale,though fadeyi is a damn good actor too!

No agbako's look is scary, huge, hulky, bad gaze with massive mandibles.
Fadeyi's villainy and meanness is in his actions, his quietness, his carriage, the whole village runs on sighting him, in fact sighting him alone caused sickness in some plays (yirunyirun). Fadeyi is indiscriminate in his wickedness,..has no affiliation to family, creed or village..does not recognize any authority even castigates the gods he got his powers from..

femi4:
KSA almost died of paralysis

Shona peters actually dated clarion chukwuka, while KSA and the screen goddess orisabunmi's own was a single incident.

This is a man whose plays shut down the whole southwest. When his programme is aired, the roads become cleared of vehicles.

Everyone rushes home to watch the plays, storyline, costumes,actions, suspense, supreme and professional acting, all delivered in one pack.

ThatFairGuy1:
it's a known fact. I'm actually saying something else o .
I'm speaking in parables.

KSA isn't mate with SSP. Even chief Commander doesn't equal him.

I know what you are saying and KSA almost died for it.

Alary:
FADEYI to Aworo (sic)
AWORO AWORO !
AWORO replied (sic)
NWORO MO .
Rest in peace ,a legend.

It wasn't fadeyi, it was orisabunmi that was calling him when he wanted to call it quits due to the frustrations from fadeyi oloro's villainy.

He gave us the meanest villain I have ever seen on screen. nobody bad reach fadeyi oloro afi shuke

Am not an Anime person like that but is bleach, not in you guys list, i thought that was good.

Legend of Nigerian movie industry popular known as aworo is dead.... Adieu Sir.

Your works and legacy lives on.

@ UjSizzle and prof800 let's have this in front page

tbaba1234:
I remember, the place used to vibrate whenever Nigeria scored. It was crazy.

Nowadays, Nigeria can be playing and you would not even know.

Damman Miracle was the craziest i have ever seen, Jubilation was merging into Jubilation, before we finish our craze for one goal another one has entered, we thought they were trolling us....omo i cant ever ever forget..person for die of jubilation that day. Am sure if we had internet then, we would have heard of some deaths just from the celebration. Just imagine a thousand kids on the streets of Capitol Road Agege running amok.

Then after we won Atlanta 96, our ward chairman constructed a coffin with Zagallo and brazil written on it and we walked from Orile Agege all the way to Channels television. As we were going all the area boys from agege to Ikeja were joining the whole entourage, am sure some children wey follow us go lost for road...lolol

brocab:
There's plenty of evidence to prove you deny Jesus-"the time you wake up in the morning until bed time-you didn't claim Jesus as your Lord and savour-every time you come as Jehovah Witnesses-you are claiming to be God's witnesses, you only declare-God's name, Jehovah" denying Jesus at the same time.
We come to you in Jesus name-and you reject us for claiming Jesus is..
The Father had given Jesus all His authority-Christ died for us-and still you deny His name-claiming Jehovah's name will save us..

No we don't claim him as our lord and savior, we claim him as our househelp.
So didn't Jesus come to declare God's name, and make his name known to all..is that not what Jesus said he came to do...now you are castigating us for following in his footsteps.
The whole chapter of John 17 was about that

I have made your name known to them and will make it known...Jesus said

Our father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name..

How does declaring God's name mean you are denying Jesus, was Jesus denying himself when he said he came to declare God's name.
Malachi 3v16
Then they that feared Jehovah spake one with another; and Jehovah hearkened, and heard, and a book of remembrance was written before him, for them that feared Jehovah, and that thought upon his name.

Oga please fear Jehovah and think upon his name, speak about it to one another. Join us in doing so.
Shey you have seen what happens to those who do so.

brocab:
The doctrine of the Trinity is the belief that there is one God who has revealed Himself in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
These three persons make up the one true God.
These three persons are of the same substance, equal in power and glory.
It is important we understand this doctrine because the wrong Jesus or the wrong God cannot save us from eternal death.
[Paul makes a clear warning of this in-{2 Corinthians 11:4}
The Bible clearly states that there is only one God. {Deuteronomy 6:4} states, “Hear O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is one.”
{Isaiah 44:6} states, “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides me.”
Clearly, these verses reveal that there is only one God.
Yet, there are three separate persons in the Bible who are called God and have the characteristics only God can have.
The Trinity is a difficult concept to grasp, because we are finite beings trying to explain an infinite God who is beyond our understanding.
Let’s take a look at some verses that back up our doctrine of the Trinity. The Father is obviously called God as seen throughout the Bible. No one will argue that point. So there is one member of the Trinity, the Father. Jesus the Son, is a separate person but He is also called God.
{John 1:1} says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
{Titus 2:13} says, “Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus.” So here we see clearly, the Son is also called God.
The Holy Spirit is also a separate person, and He is also called God. First, let us understand, the Holy Spirit is not an impersonal force. He is a person and has the characteristics of a person. He can be grieved {Eph. 4:3} He speaks {Acts 13:2} and He can be lied to {Act 5:3-4}
{Acts 5:3-4} The Holy Spirit is called God, “But Peter said, ‘Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit?...You have not lied to men, but to God.’“
The proof is there-you deny the Word of God-you are denying Jesus is the way to the Father!!

We can talk about the doctrine and argue or discuss it, but he has not answered my question.
He made two statements, 1 on KJV, the 2nd on JW saying Jesus is not the way to God. Those are clear statements and he has refused to defend either.

First there is no mystery, Jesus a mighty God and surbordinate to Almighty Jehovah is no mystery at all. Jesus is the firstborn of all creation, the beginning of the creation of God, then people want to equate him to Jehovah MBA MBA.

It is when you want to make them equal that you become mystified, because there are thousands of verses that will come at you and you won't be able to explain and you become mystified.

My question to you is can you show me in the Bible maybe like 5 places where Jehovah is said to depend on Jesus, or took instructions from him, or needed Jesus before he could do something.
You can check from Jesus prehuman existence, to when he was on earth and then to after his exaltation and power in heaven. Just a hint of that relationship like we have for Jesus where he cries to Jehovah, kneel before him, collects power from him, sits at Jehovah's right hand as otunba. You want to equate Otunba to Oba. Lai lai.

Then if Jesus has always been equal to God, when he became exalted and raised up by GOD, how come he never became higher than God. Remember Jesus has always been higher than all angels and humans before the exaltation. So why did he need to be raised up from his previous level, this new level should then be higher than Jehovah if they have been at par previously. It shows there are multiple levels of difference between Jesus and Jehovah from creation, Jesus was taken to a higher level and he is still lower than Jehovah.
Every knee has been bowing before Jehovah from time immemorial, but now Jesus has been added to that level. Every knee must bow before Jesus, he didn't have that privilege before, and Jesus knees still bows to Jehovah. Jehovah bows before no one.

Eagban:
These are translations of John 1:1 from different Bible societies...

¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1 JUB
https://bible.com/bible/1077/jhn.1.1.JUB

In the beginning the Word already existed; the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1 GNB
https://bible.com/bible/296/jhn.1.1.GNB

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God;
John 1:1 YLT98
https://bible.com/bible/821/jhn.1.1.YLT98

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1 ASV
https://bible.com/bible/12/jhn.1.1.ASV

In the beginning was the one who is called the Word. The Word was with God and was truly God.
John 1:1 CEV
https://bible.com/bible/392/jhn.1.1.CEV

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Yochanan (Jhn) 1:1 CJB
https://bible.com/bible/1275/jhn.1.1.CJB

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/jhn.1.1.NASB

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Yochanan 1:1 WMB
https://bible.com/bible/1209/jhn.1.1.WMB

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1 RSV
https://bible.com/bible/2020/jhn.1.1.RSV

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/jhn.1.1.KJV. ..

And this is your own version of it :-
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god(NWT).

How come all these Bible societies see God in capital letters and your translation committee didn't see it..?

And for your information I do not dislike the Jehovah's witnesses, I only dislike the disregard for the Mighty God(Jesus) Isaiah 9:6..

How come most of them remove God's name and substituted it with LORD, whereas it appeared thousands of times in the Bible.

If all of them are translating from an erroneous copy, and refuse to delve further into older manuscripts and consider whole context of how Jesus has been portrayed in different verses of the Bible.

Then it is not surprising.

If we leave out John 1:1, the Bible in too many places from the old to the new testified to the surbordinacy of Jesus to God, prophets said, angels said it, Jesus said, the apostles buttressed it, Paul expounded on it, it was also stated in the revelation.
"A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him", this is the opening verse of John. Jesus is always sitting on the right hand of someone seated on the throne, he is always sent on errands by the one seated on the throne and you want to claim he is the same one seated on the throne...

Lai lai...the whole Bible teaches the supremacy and almightiness of the one seated on throne Jehovah.

This is no disrespect in any way to Jesus, because we are nothing without him, but without Jehovah everything and everybody both in heaven and on earth are less than nothing.
Don't get stuck on one disputed verse, look at the whole storyline.

kellycute:
osayi is from edo state. Typical benin name. Lol

A name is indicative but never conclusive of where someone comes from.

Except we can confirm where his parents are from...the best information we have now is that he is from okija due to birth.

Ken4Christ:
So, this thread is still on. The Jehovah Witness will never admit they are a false group. They turn the Bible upside down. They are anti Christ. Their punishment will be worse in the very hell they don't believe exist.

Can you show as where some people's punishment in hell will be worse than others, or are you guys just making these things up as you go.

brocab:
You just answered it--this is enough proof to tell us you are a false prophet..
{John 14: 8-9} Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.” Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?…
So how does anyone come to the Father without Jesus standing at the Door..

Still unanswered, show me a publication where JW teach that you don't need Jesus to get to the father...shikena

Maximus69:
@rabzy

Note the highlighted!

All what they want is for Jehovah's Witnesses to approve their form of worship, the Bible quotes doesn't really matter to them, they're just quoting out of envy so that observers won't say they can't quote God's word.
So they're always quoting out of context, all they're agitating upon is for JWs to agree with them that we are worshiping the same God with them so as long as you continue making similar assertion like the man who said

"I'm the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the (my) father (and God) except through me" John 14:6

They're restless and looking for ways to accuse you! John 10:20 compare to Matthew 10:25

I dont understand, they say they are right and we say we are right 50-50..How is that a curse?
We know what we worship, it is them that worship a mystery. We want no part of the mystery. We are certain of what we know, so we go to every door in every nation to preach and teach it to people. Ti ogun eni ba dani loju o ma fi n so ya ni

brocab:
Of course the truth is not for you-you are not a believer..
{Matthew 15:7-9} You hypocrites! Isaiah prophesied correctly about you: ‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’”…
{Isiah 29:13} The Lord says: "These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught.
You claim to know Jesus-but your hearts are far from Him-your main menu is focus on Jehovah "only, calling people into your synagogue" with the tongue you praise Jehovah and with it, you curse others that don't believe in Watchtower teaching.

All those scriptures you are quoting does not shed any light on the subject matter, so they just deflections...it does not apply to the subject matter nor does it apply to me as a person or JW as a group.

As of this material time this is what i want from you

Show us proof that KJV is the best version of the Bible
As claimed by you..JWs teach that you dont need Jesus to get to the father, show us any of our publications in the past 130 years that says that.
These are not even doctrinal issues, these are just your words..defend it oga.
Anything other than this...then have a good day Sir....and stop spreading lies...

komekn:
Anybody who accepts a person unsubstantiated age without any independent official corroboration is what very intelligent.

In the case of Nigeria, where we don't have a strong documentary evidence, what do we resort to, do we just label anyone that looks old...as old.

Let us agree that there are kids that would look sold and we would unfairly judge as a cheat. Since we can't use the face to judge, people should mellow a lot too on tagging people as old.

komekn:
Sorry it is not difficult it is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE.

I will add that MRI scan can never give you an exact age but can use bone fusion to say a person is above 17.

However, there are many variables that can impact on a person that will allow a 21 year old to be classed as U17.

That's why the base line data used is different for different racial types.

A person who has been malnourished in Africa will have stunted growth and will not have the same bone fusion as teenager growing up in the West on high protein diet.

If you look at teenage young athletes in the West on creatin and other protein supplements. That will accelerate bone fusion.

There are a whole range of variables that mean that the generalistic deductions of MRI can not be absolutely accurate, there is a considerable margin of error.

Nonetheless, it's the best thing that happened to Nigerian football we now have mostly youngster's in our football at U17 level. The days of shaving 5/10 years off your age at U17 level close to impossible now.

The MRI no matter how inaccurate it is has brought a lot of sanity into the age-group competition. It is the best thing that has happened to these competition and Nigerian football in recent years. The blatant cheats will be weeded out while some fairly older players can scale through. No more Baba 21 to 30 for us.
This article did a good analysis on the matter
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dear-fifa-there-is-no-scientific-test-to-prevent-age-fraud/

safarigirl:
Please, this boy is supposed to be 21 or so, I'm concerned that he looks like a middle-aged white man that works in a failing hardware store, that has been in his family for three generations.

I laughed like mad on this...so you get all this information from the guy face abi...lololol..this is epic.
Failing hardware store passed down thru the centuries...that's a proper redneck...nice one lady

Maximus69:
It's OK, you can now go and preach what you know about Jesus in your neighbourhood, make disciples and continue teaching them all that Jesus commanded {Matthew 28:19-20} whether he was from everlasting or from when God began creating everything, all what matters is for people to live their lives in harmony with Jesus' teachings {John 7:16} it's only by doing so can anyone have everlasting life! John 3:16-18

Great advice

brocab:
Not only did Jesus say He is the Son-Jesus also said He and the Father are One-and if Jesus can forgive sin's and God too-then this proves these are of One mind soul and body at the same time-and still His being mocked by you.
{John 14:8-9} "Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.”
Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?…
All authority was given to Jesus-no-one has seen the Father without knowing His Son. Of course you are trying to slip through the back door-trying to reach the Father without Jesus! "Typical..

It proves nothing, if a king has the power to pardon a criminal and he gives his son the same power of pardoning, it does mean they are one and the same. They are of the same mind, because Jesus said he does not do any of his own except what he sees the father doing, one mind, same goal, same purpose but never same person or body.

Philip wanted to see the father the same way he is seeing Jesus, but Jesus told him seeing me is as good as seeing the father...what do you need to see the father for, when the son is here to represent him fully. Jesus and his father and his loyal disciples are one, he said just as I am one with the father, you too are one with us.

On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you...John 14:20. Explain that verse. The context in which Jesus is talking is plain for all to see in that chapter

You keep saying things we never said or preach. Jesus said am the way to the father, we JWs believe you can't get to the father except passing thru Jesus. Pls bring out one publication from us where we teach that you don't need Jesus to get to the father.

If you can't I won't bother with any further discussion

You are the one saying once we are on the way (Jesus), we don't need to get to the destination (father). Jesus want you to go thru him to the father, not to get to him and claim you have reached the destination. You need to get to the father thru Jesus, don't remain on the road, Jesus want you to get to the father.

1realBobby:
oga nerdy... Please don't bring Uzoho into the conversation ooo... I was still in primary 4 when Uzoho finished secondary school... I'm 23 now .. he is 22 .. isn't the lord a miracle worker cheesy

Oga.. That was my original post... As you can see, that statement was only indicative & not conclusive ... I never stated categorically that i had met Uzoho in person or even know him... You guys only deduced what you wanted from my above statement

Meanwhile, Uzoho @ 17 says hi ... Baba literally had to shave off all his beards and hair just to look young

You indeed have a very 'creative mind', creating things out of thin air.
You believe the MRI is not accurate and you are very sure your 24 years old friend would be one of those the MRI would miss...interesting

As the MRI is not accurate and other 24 years old plus can scale through, you also believe that your friend would be the star of the team, so nobody regardless of age can be better than him. You my friend not just a creative mind but divine powers

Eagban:
The issue of debate was his identity and nothing else!

The Jews picked many bones with Jesus, anything they could use against him. His identity was a major one.

Eagban:
So did the Jewish leaders lied on Him(Jesus) about his claim of being the Son of God?

He said he is the son of God and they consider it blasphemous, they believe he was equating himself with God by saying he is the son of God and that he can forgive sins

Eagban:
You can read the story for your self in the Bible.. Mark 2:1-12, John 5:18, John 10:30-36.
No more argument with them.

If we interprete these scriptures with like minds we would be on the same page. All Jesus said was that he was God's son and they hated him for it for he was just a carpenters son. He said he has the power to forgive sins and they said only God can forgive sins. They were not wrong only God can forgive sin, but fail to realize that Jesus was acting as God's representative and had been given the authority to do same. This is what the close disciples of Jesus came to realize that the Jews as a nation didn't know or want to accept.

Eagban:
Just ask the Jehovah's witnesses why Jesus claim to be Son of God a subject of contention by the Jewish leaders.

The Jews were expecting Christ, the son of God as prophesied by Isaiah, someone who will fulfill all the prophesies of the Messiah right away, in fact close to Jesus death on the month of olives his apostles asked him if it was time for him to restore the kingdom of Israel. They all wanted liberation from the yoke of Rome and they thought the Messiah will do it.

Jesus did no such thing and kept calling himself a son of God and older and greater than Abraham, that was totally infuriating for them that they would rather have a murderer Barabbas freed than Jesus the 'fake' Messiah.

brocab:
Maybe they did die-before the KJ's existed-but the KJ's was written so we could understand the scriptures in a more profitable way.
The KJ's is knowing to be the closes to the truth.
Don't forget the Watchtower had printed the KJ's on there press-so if you are saying the KJ's isn't worth valve-then the Watchtower had wasted there time trying to create something that means nothing.
And I suppose it doesn't mean anything to you-because God's Word isn't something you would call your own-instead you would prefer a comic book story-on how the world will establish itself when Michael returns as King.
Well the bible was written for us to learn-without the manuscripts God's name only existed through Word of Mouth-praise the Lord-we had Spirit filled disciples-like Paul who wrote most of the New Testament!
But as centuries past-people have tried to write their own manuscripts-not understanding the Spirit of God-but decided to change history taking the matter into their own hands trying to be God Himself-these have led people further away from any truth about God.
Just like you-believing you don't need any bible manuscripts, just like the Pharisees they spoke of God-but their hearts were further away from God...

Can you come up with proof of your statement that the KJV is closest to the truth? Don't just make statements and expect people to believe

What are you even talking about, when did you and I discuss bible manuscripts, please can you highlight where I said I don't need Bible manuscripts.

I can tell you that before the advent of internet I had up to 5 different Bible versions I use. When I go out preaching I often go with two then, but internet has given access to more versions, so am absolutely lost on what you are saying

Maximus69:
It's the official version for Trinitarians!

Lol i want him to give his reasons. Then maybe we can discuss the KJV of the Bible at length based on the stated purpose of why the Bible translation was commissioned and scholastic reviews of the Bible version. Because people want us to believe it's the best and authorized version, the Catholic church a thousand years before the KJV declared the Latin Vulgate as the only authorized version of the Bible and if you are caught with any other, you would be burned at the stake. What made wycliff, Tyndale and a host of others defy the church and did their own translations. The KJV was based on these guys work, after the KJV, others also reviewed the version and saw a need to do newer versions.

brocab:
I already know that-JW's don't like to hear the truth, even if it is written down in front of them, it just shows how much of the KJ's you do believe in, what I find is stranger is listening to Watchtower teachings, unfortunately we all know its backwards-and very unscriptural..

What's this KJ you are always talking about, I believe the holy scriptures..what is KJ, if you mean King James version, millions of Christians have lived and died before king James commissioned that version and the KJ version was based on other earlier versions. King Henry the 7th also commissioned a Bible like a 100 years before king James, other kings in Germany, Spain etc also commissioned scholars and clergy to translate the Bible into their own language even before the KJV. So why this fixation on king James version of the Bible.

brocab:
I already know that-JW's don't like to hear the truth, even if it is written down in front of them, it just shows how much of the KJ's you do believe in, what I find is stranger is listening to Watchtower teachings, unfortunately we all know its backwards-and very unscriptural..

Those are opinions believed by tens of millions, and also not believed by tens of millions of people. Can we leave such opinions and discuss that Bible verse like Bible students. I quoted a Bible verse using the NIV, so what's the grouse.