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Anas09:
To a little tiny extent.

Oh my love...I'm touched.

notjonbellion:
I think you are extremely stewpeed
You are practically possessed with the demon of stewpeedity or Santa sent you a package of stupid for Christmas
Or you are just addicted to stupid pills
Did you get your brain off Craigslist?

Hahaha...This thread funny die.

Anas09:
You're beginning to clown like the lot. Watch it, atheism makes people insane.

You sound like you care about my well being.

Anas09:
Which of the gods exactly are you calling?

The drowned god of the Iron Islands.

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What is dead may never die.

Anas09:
Sharon, i have known you for sometime now, and it has been faceless. Am beginning to think its getting close when we will have to face ourselves face to face. Woman to.woman. You know how to throw insults and false allegations around. When its time, you'll be forced down that cesspit.

You take Christians for granted. This days Christianity is with Knowledge , not the type our parents practiced. You cross me will crush you Sharon.

Hahahaha...you funny die.

Anas09:
Ask boys who sleep with boys what MSM means? ask Jonbellion he knows.

Oh God!

I know what you mean. But the fear I mean is an intellectual one, not that of an angry God.

QuietHammer:
The fear of being wrong would most likely make an agnostic become a theist.

Anas09:
Ask around

Tell me now. No be you bring am up? A google search did not yield anything meaningful, so I can only conclude it's one yeye slang that I'm unaware of.

MrMontella:
i dont think beings of this universe are equipped to be able to comprehend,speak,gisk,and ask of favours from the great authors..let alone ask ''him'' to help us find our car keys.

English is a human language..made by humans..and for humans.

You are assuming that this interventions are as a result of human supplication. It doesn't necessarily have to be so. The interventions may be as a result of the Creator's will and not necessarily human pleas. This would explain why miracles are not unique to any group of people.

QuietHammer:
Agnosticism a position of cowardice? Although I see agnostics as representatives of ignorance, how does honesty become cowardice?

The theist, agnostic, atheist etc. are all honest about what they believe. The agnostic position stems from a fear of being wrong.

Anas09:
Why are you so concerned? Are you also an MSM?

I don't think I know what MSM means.

niyihawking:
@Ranchhoddas

what belief do you hold?

I believe in an interventionist causeless cause. I also believe in Jesus Christ and the power in His name.

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Freethought is my methodology.

niyihawking:
ignorance is what we can truly declare as no one can claim to have absolute knowledge bout the subject .


I am not trying to side with the agnostic, but the atheist position does not make much sense.
why? because they(atheist) fail to tell us the cause of the big bang.

The atheist position is one of logic mixed with a great deal of courage. I admire it. The big bang could have been spontaneous; unless you have DEFINITIVE CONTRARY evidence.

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The agnostic position is one of cowardice, a reluctance to pick for fear of being wrong. It's usually transitive, as people tend to move on from it.

dalaman:
This one will be on the background throwing support and some little little lies in support of his man. That was how he lied that he knows a 10 years old that owns a car.

Chai! Upper cut.

Where is the thread?

Deicide:
He made them in some other thread...

MrMontella:
a creator..would be more appropriate...if the term ''God'' is a problem...


Put aside human ego...and give me a reason why the creator would interfere(miracle) at your point of death..and not interfere at the point of death of a lion cub.

There's no law that says a being must look after what it created...

Even parents do leave their little children alone at home...in duplexes and storey buildings..even though the child can fall..

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And how do you rate an event for it to be a divine intervention..

I don't believe our minds are equipped to fathom the reasons behind the Creator's interference or lack of it in various scenarios. We can only hope for such interventions when we require them.

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Something that would ordinarily not be expected to happen. Those things doubters like to call 'coincidence'.

niyihawking:
I would have agreed with you if you had said that "the agnostic position is more logical than that of the deist"

the atheist position is just as extreme as that of the deist.

I(deist) say there is God
atheist say their is no God

as if we know for sure...lolz

An agnostic declares his ignorance. Every other person claims a measure of knowledge.

MrMontella:
i thought you believed in a creator?

I do. An interventionist one. This is just an academic discussion.

MrMontella:
how do you even rate an event for it to be an ''intervention'' ...

What i'm saying is that...the so-called ''interventions'' are not... but a part of the chain of life


lol...human ego!

Exactly my point. The atheist position is more logical than than the Deist one. It's either you say there is a God or there isn't. Saying that there is a God who doesn't interfere is like wanting to ''eat your cake and have it''.

Deicide:
You are lying again even when its not necessary.....

Where exactly are you getting these comments from?

Such an intervention does not necessarily have to break the laws of physics.

niyihawking:
good question my bro, good question

I'm a physicist,so am gonna use a branch of physics to explain this

god is bound by laws of quantum mechanics. why have I said this?
virtually all science students have heard and read bout the uncertainty principle, it happens that there is no amount of prayer one can pray, or amount of ritual one can offer that will make god alter the uncertainty principle. everytime you perform the experiment, it will always agree with theory.

lemme come down a little bit..... according to Newton's first law, it states that "a body will continue to be in it state of rest or under uniform motion until an external force acts on it". it also happens that ritual or prayer can alter this laws.

I can go on and on..


Einstein in relativity said " the laws of physics is a constant " , Galileo said same thing.

that's why most physicist are deist (not talking bout Nigerian physicist oo)


the creator is a noninterventionist

ScepticalPyrrho:
Deism provides no answers but further speculations.

It isn't a position backed up with facts either. It fails the same test of provision proofs as other theistical arguments.

Is see nothing wrong in admitting that we do not know anything yet.

WE DONT KNOW!

If there must be an intelligent Designer, is our reality the only universe?
There could also be zillions of parallel reality with their designers. The Designers may also need a supreme designer too who in turn needs a designer.
Where do we end this speculations?
Our mind can keep trying to make sense of the universe no doubt. But until we are certain of our claims, we can make up reasons for the existence of an intelligent Designer. None would count as knowledge.

WE SINCERELY DON'T KNOW!

I'm good with this.

Our self-consciousness is our greatest burden. I've learnt to live with that.

Exactly. There is no limit to speculation.

MrMontella:
lets take starvation..
Animals in the wild starve...

it would boil down to the problem of evil..
And no ''general'' case...and lack of consistency..of this ''intervention''

I used animals..to avoid your ''conditioning'' input

Even if there isn't any clear proof of ''animal intervention'', it still doesn't show conclusively that there is no intervention. [s]Maybe animals are not as important in the grand scheme of things[/s]

Lol. Maybe, maybe not. You wouldn't know if there was an intervention of behalf of an animal now would you?

MrMontella:
does he/she/it asoo intervene for animals in need?'

Link to the thread?

Anas09:
Has she denied it? I once went into a thread where indiscovered that she was, since then she knows i know because i have always used it to ask her why she hates God.

Anas09:
Its not a hidden thing. She is.

It's hidden from me. How exactly do you know this? I ask because you have this habit of referring to every female atheist as lesbian.

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Season's Greetings.

GoodMuyis:
Luke 4
25. But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;
26. But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow.
27. And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.

Na Jesus I ask no be Eliseus and Elisha.

MrMontella:
explain why you think so.

How do they know that whoever or whatever made the Universe is non-interventionist.

GoodMuyis:
Are you this stupid or what or you think everyone is your age mate to ridicule. Pls learn to respect elders. The person you are unto is an elderly person

Oga Methuselah, make we no dey ask elders questions abi wetin you mean?

LambanoPeace:
Switch on your brains, please.

What would Jesus have done?

A rather illogical position I must say.

How do you know it's not you Satan is using?

An2elect2:
Another one. Satan aint tired yet