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Antiparticle:
I obviously did a lot of research before I reached this conclusion. What you are getting mixed up is whose prerogative it is to prove that miracles are real. It is not my prerogative to disprove miracles (when they never have been shown to be real), it is your prerogative (since you believe they are real) to prove that they are real. You don't seem to care about the truth, so I don't think there's much I can say to you. In any case, while I was Christian I did a lot of research on miracles and realized that miracles don't happen.

Your mistake is that you think anyone is interested in proving anything to you. No one is. I certainly am not. Could you please tell us the nature of research that has led you to your conclusion?

Antiparticle:
I think you are continuing to distrust the motives of atheists. Ok. If these miracles are not fake, why is it that unfakeable miracles never happen? Why?

I used to think that miracles were real (and that I was a beneficiary of a miracle or two) but it is now clear that all claims of miracles stop holding water whenever you remove ambiguity, placebo, or coincidence.

I am a bit surprised that you assert that miracles happen, yet these pastors can't simply go to Igbobi hospital to heal people with amputated limbs, why? Is god afraid of amputees? Why can't these so-called pastors tell us the location of the Chibok girls?

Why do all claims of miracles disappear when ambiguity and placebo are removed?

There has not been one unfakeable miracle, ever. Why? That you believe we should just accept on hearsay that miracles happen is itself problematic.

That you assume I haven't made real attempts to find out if miracles happen is deeply cynical, even though you don't know me and have never met me. I can't understand why you have antipathy for me because I disagree with your assertion about miracles. I grew up in a very Pentecostal church environment with several claims of miracles, but it is clear to me that these supposed miracles were not so.

People think miracles happen because of cognitive biases such as confirmation bias, confusing of correlation with causation, and logical fallacies. If you care about the truth, you would dig as deep as you can to verify if miracles happen. But I'm afraid you are already cynical about those who are relentless about finding the truth.

Same old, same old. What attempts have you made to determine the veracity of those 'fakeable' miracles? Does 'fakeability' mean falsity?

OLAADEGBU:
Where did you get that from?

The same place we all get stuff- Our imaginations.

Iamhatey:
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5minsmadness:
Why? Clark kent is a wimp.

No he's not.

This Crook... The only reason the families did not file any complaint was that they were afraid of ''touch not my anointed''.

Antiparticle:
The issue I see here is that you appear to automatically distrust the motives of people who concluded that theistic religion and its claims are a sham. This is not an attack on you, just an observation of a sentiment that you should examine. Is it wrong for someone to want to know the truth? Is it wrong to want to be able to separate truth from myths? You seem dismissive of anyone willing to question the accuracy of miracle claims. Shouldn't there be reasons to be skeptical about these claims? If these claims are true, they will eventually vindicate themselves and come out even greater. But they never have, why?

If asking questions is forbidden, then that's a problem.

The best things that have happened to our world in the past 500 years have been because of skepticism, i.e. rational thinkers don't accept something to be true because someone else said so; we accept things to be true because they are logically unassailable and/or clear evidence is provided. This is the reason why the phone in your hand works, the reason why GPS can tell you where you are, the reason why humans discovered the germ theory of disease, the reason why we have vaccines to pre-empt diseases, the reason why we can make airplanes fly, and more. If people weren't skeptical about claims of the spirit world controlling all aspects of the physical world, nobody would have tried to figure out the physical mechanisms of nature.

If people never question claims of the supernatural, we would still be in an age where epilepsy would be considered a strictly spiritual condition, the earth would still be considered flat, all sickness would be considered to be due to "bad air" or spirits, and more. Skepticism is one of the reasons why humanity moves forward.

What real attempts have you made to find out the truth? Anyone who REALLY wants to verify these 'miracle' claims would simply carry out an HONEST research. Go to the next crusade in your vicinity and see the number of people that would be healed or one form of ailment or another. Interview as many as possible and come back to tell us that they were paid to fake them. I am a skeptic myself but rationality is enough to make anyone in Nigeria see that these things actually happen. If they did not, we'd be faced with scandals upon scandals of people who have been paid to fake healing. Where are they?

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CoolUsername:
Universal laws are not decrees started by any authority but rather a description of how the universe behaves. The human mind finds patterns in these systems and then uses that to predict outcomes.

You do not know for sure that there is no Authority behind these laws.

yorhmienerd:
A living testimony of the bolded part

I know the feeling man. I speak from experience.

yorhmienerd:
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For once I'd agree with you. A lot of these people with relatively easy lives have no idea of what some other people are going through. It's why they are always eager to offer stupid advice and turn themselves to 'bizzy body' online detectives. It's true that there are many scammers but there are people who really need the help. People dey suffer for this world, most times not as a result of their laziness or unwillingness to do something with their lives. Fate just has a way of dealing people cruel hands.

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hopefulLandlord:
abeg, slow down, count to 10 and read my comment again

i asked how you know it was blood money the person did

where you there with him/her?

what are the signs of someone that did blood money?

pretend I'm asking just for knowledge's sake

or have you done blood money yourself?

That guy seems deranged. Comprehension is clearly not his forte.

yorhmienerd:
Hehe, forming like you are living in a posh environment. Who are you forming for?

What has posh got to do with my question. You well so?

Cracked:
I'm very sorry sir for being so saucy as you call it. I beg for forgiveness.. And also, i might be new here but that doesn't mean that am dumb. I have a facebook group i admin so at least i know few tricks about the internet. I don't think that's even important or will you term me as a bad person for knowing so much already? I'm 22, from the way i type.. One can see vividly that atleast i have something upstairs.. Please help your brother i beg you

How do you quote comments in bits using a Nokia phone?

yorhmienerd:
I have seen 'MEN' with real blood money but with bad ending.

That by the way, I thought atheist are good people, free thinkers who would not want to hurt a fellow man. But here you are thinking about 'kidnapping' someone from Niger, Benin, Ghana and the rest. Are they not also human being?

Dumb Liar. Where you take see them? For film abi?

ItsQuinn:
don't mind them, haters gonna hate

I actually like fiction!

You go just dey manufacture stories!

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Funlordjnr:
Is he the only one with that name in the muslim world?




Abeg nigerians too like to dey make mountain out of mole hill......_fuck this!

You should learn to read before commenting.

Antiparticle:
So are you saying that something defying rational explanation means god(s) did it? The history of man is full of many events considered supernatural just because humans at the time didn't understand them. Today most such events (e.g. lightning, rain, etc) are not (for the most part) anymore considered supernatural whatsoever.

Are you familiar with the phrase "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof?" This phrase is one of the bedrocks of rational inquiry. It is perfectly reasonable for atheists (and just about anyone) to be skeptical about claims of a cripple being healed; "why?", you may ask. Well this is because it is an extraordinary claim such that extraordinary evidence is needed to believe it. Example evidence for instance would be images of the cripple's spinal MRI before and after the healing. A perfect unfalsifiable healing candidate would be a cripple whose spine was completely severed before the supposed healing act.

Peep this: if I told you that I physically levitated into the sky and visited the planet Mars last night, would you believe me? Likely not. So in the same way you shouldn't treat the healthy skepticism of atheists as misguided; similar to how I wouldn't treat your skepticism about my Mars visit as misguided.

We all need skepticism in order to identify what is true and what is not. Modern science wouldn't be here today if people accepted hear-say as fact. Rational inquiry and objectivity run on skepticism.

No proof has ever been presented of an unfalsifiable miracle happening, ever. I'm talking about miracles such as the reattachment of a severed human head during prayer or the reattachment or regrowth of an amputated limb through prayer. Or the reawakening of the fully rotten skeleton of someone as a result of prayer.

If Yahweh (or any other deity) were all-powerful, why wouldn't it perform miracles that cannot be faked? Don't you think this is a critical & worthy question?

Like I've told others before you, those miracles do not happen for your amusement. There are laws governing their occurences and if you do not obey them, they won't happen. Your skepticism does not negate the fact that they happen and continue to happen.

blueAgent:
This African traditional religeous beliefs have held Africans backward.contrary to your claims that Christainity was responsible for Africa's underdevelopment. if this people pratice true christanity ,they would not have accepted such traditions that promote unhealthy sex habits .

My claim? When did I make any such claim?

How did your 'hyena' story take connect to Christianity I no just know.

Gombs:
You won't understand....Trust me.. You won't.

Yeah he won't. But you do right?