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promise101:
Bro, why are you running away?

Don't run! Nobody is pursuing you!

You have to know that what you are saying doesn't make sense.

Study this scenario:
In a case of the usa white house.

Do you think that it can take TRILLIONS, UPON TRILLIONS UPON TRILLIONS of years to build up a less complex system as white house. The building itself ??

Please think about it.

You are an atheist, but don't live your live on a lie as you think other religious dudes are brainwashed. Don't be brainwashed with false sciences. True sciences are clear, false science are clear too, but, then can brainwash.

You can still be an atheist without believing in a lie. Making scientists to look like pastors and bishops to you. That would make you look like your religion is sciences.

hello?
I really dont know the angle you're going to/the argument..but..
The pic below should ''clear'' somethings..
Abiogenesis doesnt say simple chemicals spotaneously produced an organism..
A peptide under early earth conditions can possibly form a self replicating polymer..
And in the diagram below..some stages were left out...(between hypercycles and protoboints..)
ps i dont believe in abiogenesis
and please if your gonna throw insults pls just ignore...

solite3:
was it nature that created you?

i was produced in accordance with nature's laws.

solite3:
was it nature that created you?

i was produced in accordance with nature's laws.

MrPRevailer:
That does not affect me. I don't feel their pain. Do you want to?

That's why every soul is unique. And you shouldn't do a wrong thing, because others are doing it.

Good...and some of your relatives...
And the possibility of your parents..immediate family...your children...

Ranchhoddas:
Naaaah. Faith!!

a repellant of reason

jnrbayano:
Aha!
He proved himself? Oh, you know so?
So, what's exactly does this thread seek to achieve?

in my first sentence..i said ''IN THE BIBLE''... still the same bible meant in the second... So?

chieveboy:
Further there is th case of a guy who developed mathematical skills after an accident:

http://www.livescience.com/45349-brain-injury-turns-man-into-math-genius.html

...in addition: if you think those guys with 'extra ordinary' brain activity from the MRI tests are the bomb, be rest assured that they are actually the 'learners' compared to others who won't just come out to be tested... Albert Einstein is a joke compared to them.

baba...its called savant syndrome

Ranchhoddas:
What if it isn't?

magical thinking..

MrPRevailer:
Let me ask you. If you were working on the street and found a dead man on the road who was used for rituals, would use wish you were the one?

If you were driving, and passed by an accident scene where a car hit a trailer and the agonising victim who miraculously survived has his intestines out and his two legs shattered. Would you wish you were him?

I don't need your answers. you'll be more secure and sincere answering that within yourself.

There are so many boasters in this world. But I want to assure you, none of them that went to hell and miraculously came back to life ever wanted to go back there again.

I rejected your evil wish in Jesus name. Amen. You pray you will be delivered from unbelief, sin and go to heaven on Jesus name. Amen.

simple...your ancestors are burning in hell...

when you die...you die and become a constituent of nature...

Flexherbal:
It is only private jets that our prophets can now fly.

lol

jnrbayano:
Do you actually understand God at all?

God doesn't do stupid things to try to prove to a group he exists.

...even if there are no more people to praise God, the stones will do as he already said.

God is not man that he need to prove himself to a group of people because he is shoving in the chest.

@first bolded...should i give you stupid things he did in the bible?

@2nd bolded...should i give you instances he proved himself?

Wilgrea7:
exactly my problem with these near death experiences.. contrary to the popular belief, majority of nde experienced (globally don't hint a burning hell)..

yes true..i almost forgot..

also, how can different people give different descriptions of the same place? this guy tends to choose only the ones that favour his beliefs.. just as he chooses only the verses he thinks talk of eternal torment while ignoring the ones that talk of anhilation

the bolded..yes thats it..
Personally i see NDE's as proof that the brain is powerful...----Because it can be simulated/induced in the lab #magnetic,,electrical simulations of the brain(are we tricking God?)

Ranchhoddas:
I am wary of giving untrue answers, so I express my thoughts when I am not sure of something.

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What if the comic story is a re-enactment of a true life story, will the people still be right to say it's not supposed to be so?

Your bible indicates he will be in heaven...the thief on the cross gives such example...
So i can say...christians are christians because they want to continue sinning....
NOTE:atheists are not only ex-christians.

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what if the comic book is pure fiction?

Tajbol4splend:
I'm afraid you are confused bro

you are bro

He should reverse or stop the earths rotation...like he did in the days of joshua and the days of isaiah lol.

mhizmercinda...what you doing online by this time

honourhim:
Assuming what you said is true, tell me another fallacious belief that still has growing influence over millions of people across the globe for over these hundreds upon hundreds of years and still counting irregardless of several efforts that people like you have made over these years to wipe out this influence.

honourhim:
Assuming what you said is true, tell me another fallacious belief that still has growing influence over millions of people across the globe for over these hundreds upon hundreds of years and still counting irregardless of several efforts that people like you have made over these years to wipe out this influence.

they are a lot...
Islamic beliefs are an example(the niyab;a complete hijab or so)..
On hell..i think the belief in it is reducing..
https://i67.tinypic.com/bjit80.jpg
while as of 2011 75 percent believed in hell

honourhim:
Its reality is not dependent on your being impressed. Even if all of us say we are not impressed it still doesnt change anything

its not reality..
The way presented by the book is ---impossible(if im to take the word of ''soul'')
the supposed testimonies have majorly been jokes...they dont even ''rhyme''...
Different people throwing in different things about the ''one'' place they visited...

Ranchhoddas:
It's an unlikely scenario. But God is not mocked, a man must reap whatever he has sown. I like to think the person would go to Heaven though I'm not exactly sure....... Denial is a primitive ego defence mechanism that usually kicks in when we are confronted with unpleasant realities. This is science, so it's not necessarily fallacious. Another defence mechanism is indignation; an expression of outrage at what is perceived to be the injustice of eternal punishment for finite offence.

its a simple question i asked..
And i do not want your personal ''thought''..
I need not remind you of cases of unending grace in the bible and unmerited grace....
So if a person asks sincerely on his death bed...
Will he enter heaven or hell?
A straight forward answer is all i need

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Denial is a primitive ego defence mechanism that usually kicks in when we are confronted with unpleasant realities. This is science, so it's not necessarily fallacious. Another defence mechanism is indignation; an expression of outrage at what is perceived to be the injustice of eternal punishment for finite offence

the bolded....really fallacious..
So if in a comic book..the villian defeats a hero..and people say..it shouldnt be so...then they are afraid of the villian?/expressing outrage ?

Ranchhoddas:
Even if SOME Christians do this, most do not and you also know that the Bible is clearly against this. (Romans 6:1). So you have to look at what the faith teaches and not what some people are doing.

lol...simple question for you..
Based on christian theology,,if i ask God for forgiveness and accept his son/him on my last hour on earth...will i go to hell or heaven?

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The reasoning is deeply fallacious...
Its like saying i'm afraid of hell thats why i dont believe in it..or something..

annunaki2:
My brain does not acknowledge myths. Meanwhile kindly explain to us why the dragonfly as not evolved in 450 million years and the crocodile as not evolved in 200 million years as there are fossilised evidence of both creatures dating back to time mentioned.

lol...even your monicker is a ''myth''..
i dont know of ''modern'' crocs. dating to 200 million years...i only know of the sarcosuchus which are an extinct relative of crocs.

On the dragon flies..no idea of a ''450'' million year old fossil..
Maybe you can provide links..
But..there's no where in darwinism(i'm not a darwinist tho) that says animals ''MUST'' evolve morphologically.
P.s i know of supposed ''living fossils''

Creeza:
Its my birthday today..

Help me celebrate it

h^appy [color=steelblue]b^uffday[/color] [color=orange]baba!..[/color]

Ranchhoddas:
I have taken the time to read through your rather long write-up and I think I agree with you to a great degree, especially the part you talked about the love of sin

funny enough..its actually christians that want to sin...
Why---you have a ''buy-back clause''..so you want to sin and whenever you do...you ask the all-merciful God for forgiveness...
And its forgiven..and you repeat the funny cycle over and over..

P.s buy-back clause is used with my full awareness of the words meaning.

annunaki2:
It would be to you if your mental faculties are not capable of comprehending it.

hehe...but your brain comprehended evolution abi?

Wilgrea7:
I'm not claiming i know it all but at least u guys should try to prove us wrong... concerning the theory of natural selection and theory of adaptation i have no problem with it..

my problem lies in 2 things

1. highly complex form of life came from a blast of nothing

2. animals like girrafes had very short necks but on stretching their necks became longer over time..

I'm not insulting ur belief.. all i want is clarification... links are allowed

First,you have to understand that evolution is not ''darwinism''(darwins theory of evolution)
just like gravity is not newton's law of gravity..
Evolution,like gravity is a FACT...
the proofs you need on evolution can be found---HERE
And related issues on evolution---HERE
P.s :It will take you some time tho...

annunaki2:
Unfortunately these your so called explanations are full of assumptions, inconsistencies and outright hallucinations. They are very far from convincing and it actually takes faith to the extent of delusion to believe the evolution mumbo jumbo than to believe in the concept of intelligent design.

intelligent design is the mumbo jumbo...

ValentineMary:
After I read the OP and comments from theist,I am beginning to feel despair for our educational system.

One guy even said it has been debunked because it is still a theory and not a law. what do u guys learn in school

asin bro...
I've given up on the ''country''..
Really needs some awakening..

gaelllic:
Correction.

Observers will discover,

that while atheists claim to disdain religion in general

they hardly ever target their polemics at Judaism, Buddhism, Wicca, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism and others. When they do it is usually

tempered, and with the insinuation that these practices are somehow purer, nobler and more honest than 'organized religion'.

Organized religion is, of course, merely a euphemism for Christianity.

They hit Islam from time to time, but there's no doubt that their very worst, and most blasphemous invectives are reserved for Christians.

Christ is the Truth. They know it and their master knows it too.

very shallow reasoning...very shallow...

Ranchhoddas:
Both!

not impressed by any!

Ranchhoddas:
Still very risky, considering the millions of people screaming it daily. I know it's fallacious reasoning but.....well....

screaming?----evangelicals?
Or supposed visits to hell?

DoctorAlien:
A little--I mean, a little research will just expose the many illogical and reason-contradicting deceptions and lies in modern Physics.

Just a little.

You owe it to yourself to make sure that in trying to find out the "truth" , you don't get lied to.

Let me give you a tip: with little/minimal Math/Physics skill, you can quickly decipher that any type of motion whatsoever is not possible in 4D spacetime, which has time as a fourth dimension. Yet, "scientists" keep propagating the lie that the universe is most correctly viewed as spacetime.

Pathetic

@the first bolded-----lol...i laughed hard bro

@the second bolded---another laugh bro


@the third bolded---all im just saying is simple---slow down on the conspiracy theories you ''go'' into...