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olumide4christ:
What else is there to prove to you? From your response, it shows you know little about what QS in Nigeria do outside the borders of a construction project or site. I have mentioned various sectors in my previous post in which QS are providing services outside of a construction site...since you have declined to use Google, you could ask people whom you know work in those sectors if QS function there or not and they'll answer you.

I'm sure you also don't know that EFCC has been and is currently paying some QS consultants a hell of a lot of money as professional fees to do REVIEW OF CONTRACTS & COST AUDITING of construction contracts that are subjects of bribery & corruption investigations. Maybe the EFCC were foolish in appointing QS to do that and not an accountant!

As per my colleague in Expense Control, he has been in the Projects department of the bank rolling out branches for many years before the bank thought it wise to move him to Expense Control in order to use his experience in saving expenditure costs for them. Or maybe the bank was foolish to have sent him there or they had suddenly become short of accountants?

As per project management, any of the professionals in the construction industry can be the project manager and/or prime consultant for any project...even the government recognizes this in the Federal Approved Scale of Fees for Consultants. I have seen Architects, QS, Engineers act as project manager/prime consultants on many projects in my years of experience.

Infact, you can verify this...a QS firm was the prime consultant for the Reconstruction of Ajose Adeogun Rd, Victoria Island in 2006 sponsored by Zenith Bank. I was working with that QS firm at the time & was on that project. The same firm was prime consultant for the Remodeling of the Consular Section of the American Embassy at Walter Carrington Crescent, Victoria Island, Lagos in the same 2006 in which our boss chose all other consultants (Architect, Engineers) to work on the project. This is just 1 QS firm, not to talk of so many others doing project management jobs in Nigeria.

I had to speak up because you made a very wrong statement in declaring a whole profession of almost 3,000 professional practicing individuals in Nigeria alone, null and void, all as a result of your lack of knowledge and facts about the profession. Other professionals have also called you out on this earlier on this thread.

If I don't have facts, I don't speak...I only say what I know and can prove...that's a golden rule of life and I believe everyone should abide by that rule.

It is well!

Thanks for this. Imagine common electrical engineer lasan lasan would come on NL and be saying what he dosent understand. mtchewww

toskine:
1:2:4 is a batching /mixing ratio which show the portion of cement: fine aggregate: coarse aggregate. I.e 1bag of cement : 4portion of sharp sand: 8portion of granite. You either batch by weight or volume. But most on site it is by volume, only batching plant batch by weight.

I can even send you my Facebook account so that you can see my newly constructed Olympic size swimming pool on my Instagram page, with detailed picture from inception till completion.
Am vast in what I do and am a project manager overseeing a project over 1B with 6site engineer working for me.
You can't be asking me what 1:2:4 is.

Am at your service

toskine:
Am a certified civil Engineer, both coren and NSE certified.

I will like to either visit your site or you visit mine so that you can know the caliber of the person chatting with you.

I be your boy.
For where you dey oga, people like us dey learn.
But I go like work with you

toskine:
Am a certified civil Engineer, both coren and NSE certified.

I will like to either visit your site or you visit mine so that you can know the caliber of the person chatting with you.

Oga engineer I hail o.
I just dey waka pass.

toskine:
Hi, I don't understand what you meant by 1:2:4, that is just for the purpose of academic/ guide, any certified engineer that really know what he is doing will definitely do a trial mix to achieve specified strength by structural engineer design the structure anytime he starts a new work. I have constructed works designed by big structural firms, ARUP, IAA, e.t.c.

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1:2:4 concrete ratio if you dont know what it means then .....

toskine:
Hi, I don't understand what you meant by 1:2:4, that is just for the purpose of academic/ guide, any certified engineer that really know what he is doing will definitely do a trial mix to achieve specified strength by structural engineer design the structure anytime he starts a new work. I have constructed works designed by big structural firms, ARUP, IAA, e.t.c.

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well I am a quantity surveyor (QS) not an Engineer .But I run a small contracting firm that handles pools.So whats your profession I would like to know.

Timtol:
Whatsapp me on 08100452977 Pls I need experience, honesty,fear of God n transparency. Will b expecting u

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Timtol:
Whatsapp me on 08100452977 Pls I need experience, honesty,fear of God n transparency. Will b expecting u

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luvablesam:
The land is 60 by 120..thats like almost the only detail i basically know now...architectural plan isnt ready now

send me a mail check my signature.

Flaghouse1:
Nice of you for rejecting the job,it's when construction time come now the BOQ for roof be N7million after analysis , the man go tell people say you and builder done plan to reap him off,

"Keeping it simple is beautiful "

Na soooo.

oyb:
i hope he will have better arguments than your braggadocio about "codedly" earning money or your self inflicted wounds
"artisans don't know what a QS is"

Of cause na oga at the top b dat o

olumide4christ

Flaghouse1:
What I actually meant is that by the time you start building "as is" on diagram you will discover some ideas are just good on papers ,but when it comes to doing it on the field experience and maturity counts, especially roof designs are prone to these kind of design flaws

Yes o.Imagine they brought one mad roof design to our office lastweek. ROOF WEY BE SAY IF OYINBO see, Him GO SHOCK.We had to reject the design. Most architects would just put down their imagination on paper without thinking of onsite construction.

oyb:
QS is a dead profession. Modern software can spit out detailed schedules of materials.

just had to let MY OGA QS ON THIS
olumide4christ

bixton:
There are doors above the height of the 9 block course standard.
The only thing standard in building construction is using the right tools, materials, right and appropriate mix(es). Every other thing is based on its structural viability, how it appeals to the eyes upon finishing and how it gives comfort to both infants and the aged when in use.

standard doors 2.05m, 2,1 and 2.2m any other size is subject to crazy and cost consuming design by an architect

bixton:
Designs are on paper which are subject to change on the field.

As for me and my fellow colleagues we stand strongly behind 3m building height for bungalows subject to the International building code (IBC) and the BSMM3.

bixton:
Engineering practice is all about pushing beyond the known standard practice to achieving ones goals.

I have seen somewhat of what your question is all about and i'd ask you what I asked the perceived engineer on site too.

Mean while this is an illustration of the building but you can point me in your direction if it does not go in line of what you intend doing;

4 blocks from german floor to window base
10 blocks from window base to lintel......

My question
How many blocks will you place on top the cast lintel both internal and external walls?

it all depends on how high the wall would be, based on the design .Building wall= 3m block height =0.225mm. block =3/0.225=13.33coaches from german floor to roof.

snakebeat:
Thought as much, u newly join nairaland. Because d thing just dey shark u for body, your comments just full everywhere

Lol.been on NL FOR LONG JUST never thought of registering until recently.

skimanski:
Why do a lot of people stick to 9coach of block as Lintel Level?

Its less Light,
Its aesthetically not too pleasing,
Its not significantly less expensive.

Please if Anybody has any reason why its better please inform so as to guide our Judgement in the future.

less expensive.That extra one coach alone multiplied by the girth of a building with plenty walls can amount to increase in cost.Imagine a building with 100m girth (perimeter) 0.225mm high =225blocks@10blocks/sqm

bixton:
Please put a clearer meaning to the bold.

less expensive.That extra one coach alone multiplied by the girth of a building with plenty walls can amount to increase in cost.Imagine a building with 100m girth (perimeter) 0.225mm high =225blocks@10blocks/sqm

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What I do? If I don't watch or is addicted to porn will you force me to concoct a post?

why are you lying

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I constantly use his image to masturbate.

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oyb:
the hussle you're engaging in does not speak to QS being big boys. even more so as you are throwing in architect, builder, contractor, plumber , designer. if your profession brought in that much money, you would be focused on it, rather than chasing so many other jobs. it doesn't even sound as if your job is that challenging if you have that much free time, unless of course you are engaging in copy and paste without review/understanding.



you mean kickbacks from contractors in exchange for selective interpretation of project clauses.

In the QS profession you dont do copy and paste na gbese you want cause be dat EXCEPT IF THATS WHAT YOU NORMALLY DO .Every BOQ's done in a QS firm would pass through a vetting process for errors.

oyb:
the hussle you're engaging in does not speak to QS being big boys. even more so as you are throwing in architect, builder, contractor, plumber , designer. if your profession brought in that much money, you would be focused on it, rather than chasing so many other jobs. it doesn't even sound as if your job is that challenging if you have that much free time, unless of course you are engaging in copy and paste without review/understanding.



you mean kickbacks from contractors in exchange for selective interpretation of project clauses.

Truth be told
Fixed salaries these days can feed anybody.In QS firms there are usually other QS's so salary is nothing to write home about.The bigboys are the ones in construction firms and government ministries.But egunje and side hustle is what keeps people like us moving.

oyb:
the hussle you're engaging in does not speak to QS being big boys. even more so as you are throwing in architect, builder, contractor, plumber , designer. if your profession brought in that much money, you would be focused on it, rather than chasing so many other jobs. it doesn't even sound as if your job is that challenging if you have that much free time, unless of course you are engaging in copy and paste without review/understanding.



you mean kickbacks from contractors in exchange for selective interpretation of project clauses.

Guy na you know o.Make I shutup before EFCC go come enter nairaland they seize assets.

oyb:
no i am not a civil engineer. try again


by your own posts you are admitting your profession is dying/struggling - artisans dont know what it is.



you were getting hot and bothered about an architect saying he does boqs, but here you are proudly asserting that you are doing the same thing as those bricklayers and baba mufus that claim engineer.





awoof dey run belle - don't mess up your client by 'all na hussle' mentality. i am getting a vibe that you will also claim that you can do structural, electrical, mechanical to a client.

haba nawa for you o. I dont do all that have got limits.Now Let me tell you why they dont know QS. Its because QS is not an everyday profession like ARCHI and civil.QUANTITY SURVEYORS ARE BIG BOYS that's why if you see any QS looking lean and skinny theres something wrong EXCEPT if its a young QS.

SECONDLY QS's dont make noise, have you ever heard of CODED MONEY that's what we earn.

toskine:
I guessed the schools you attended, you only have a grade of concrete, for you information grade of concrete varies from 15fcu to 50fcu and their prices varies, because their cement content and strength increases.
Also, are you planing weak concrete for a water retaining structure?, no wonder building collapse this days.
You.
Also I guessed in the school you attended also the prices of tile is fixed, i irrespective of the quality. For you information I just completed using both mosaic from GML and 60*60 tile at #9000/sqm and #6000 respectively for a multipurpose hall for a school, I wonder where you got #2000-#2500 bidding rate from

My brother that is on field, if you will care to know, I have 13years of on- site experience and I have just completed an Olympic standard swimming pool for a school at Ajah (name withheld), I have pictures from inception till completion, I would have posted them now but the size of each, way too big. So I know what am saying, also am not looking for contracts from anyone, I just decided to add my voice so that someone else can benefit from it.

why would I use weak concrete for GODSAke .Alright how many bags of cement do we even have in a cum of 1:2:4 concrete.

PLEASE DONT GOOGLE.(Google would give you
6
.33 bags)

toskine:
I guessed the schools you attended, you only have a grade of concrete, for you information grade of concrete varies from 15fcu to 50fcu and their prices varies, because their cement content and strength increases.
Also, are you planing weak concrete for a water retaining structure?, no wonder building collapse this days.
You.
Also I guessed in the school you attended also the prices of tile is fixed, i irrespective of the quality. For you information I just completed using both mosaic from GML and 60*60 tile at #9000/sqm and #6000 respectively for a multipurpose hall for a school, I wonder where you got #2000-#2500 bidding rate from

My brother that is on field, if you will care to know, I have 13years of on- site experience and I have just completed an Olympic standard swimming pool for a school at Ajah (name withheld), I have pictures from inception till completion, I would have posted them now but the size of each, way too big. So I know what am saying, also am not looking for contracts from anyone, I just decided to add my voice so that someone else can benefit from it.

who doesn't know the grades of concrete.Do you even know who your talking to sef.ema gbami ke.