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Properties › Re: KNOW THE COST OF YOUR BUILDING PROJECT TODAY-GET YOUR BOQ &BUILDING ESTIMATES by raymondFirstborn(op): 5:23pm On Oct 11, 2020

richec74:
Waterlogged.

Do you have the Architectural drawings ?

Properties › Re: Construction Of A Four Bedroom Duplex. Ipaja, Lagos by raymondFirstborn(op): 5:20pm On Oct 11, 2020

haaa:
I get it. Everyone seems to wanting something (money) when such things like a project is on-going.

My question is, why any engineers would not want to work with relatives? especially when they know at least one of the clients relatives will be in the picture.

I believe if any engineers doesnt like working with relatives, they should not take the contract to begin with.

Even with building construction companies, I believe a client or his/her relatives will be going to the site once a while to check how the building process is going.

As for engineers, their main objectives is to ensure the project is properly executed. How materials gets to the site shouldn't be none of their businesses. As the engineer, you have your own workers (team) that will deliver the work, your SUPERVISION FEES and all. Once all that is paid, whoever is handling the materials shouldn't be a problem. Unless if the so called engineer has his or her own monetary embezzlement agenda.

As I have mentioned in one of my previous comments, I know few people in that Estate which I believe they will have one or two relationships with the owners. I will talk to them to see what actually happened in this case.

I see no reason a client will say engineer ideas wouldnt be helpful again at the stage of that project. It does not make sense, unless if money to continue the project is the problem.

I will get back to forum with what actually happened.

I have worked with clients relatives both the good and bad.

This particular project

https://www.nairaland.com/5582817/construction-four-bedroom-bungalow-pent

The client is a nairalander , I worked with his dad throughout the project and we had a smooth relationship. Now his dad, as a business man understood that "when you involve an engineer you let him do his job without interference".

Engineers working with relatives isn't the issue, but the relatives need to understand that even though it's their Brother or sisters project, the engineer is "in charge".
Once the relative starts telling the engineer what to do , problem starts.

In some cases the relatives want to bring workers to site to make some money for themselves.(I don't have issues with this , so far as I have consented to it.)
Where I have issues is when the relative believes he doesn't need the engineers consent to bring workers to the site.
Truth is at the end of the day, if anything happens everyone would hold the engineer responsible, forgetting the client relative was involved.

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Properties › Re: Construction Of A Four Bedroom Duplex. Ipaja, Lagos by raymondFirstborn(op): 4:07pm On Oct 11, 2020

haaa:
Oh, and why cant you explain to your client reason why it is important to monitor finishing levels. Monitor means be there every time to oversight it.

But what is wrong in getting materials themselves? Or is it a contract that you will give the client quotations from Foundation till Finishing Levels and all the client will do is just to give you all the money at once?

There's actually nothing wrong with clients getting materials themselves. Where problem starts is when the client is not onground to handle procurement themselves and they have to assign procurement to relatives.

When relatives handle procurement, in most cases they want to assume control, they want to head the project and this is when the engineer and client relatives clash.

In most cases the relative takes control and
sidelines the engineer, then the relative starts looking for avenues to make money for himself.

The only time client relatives and engineers work together without problems , is when the relative handling procurement has no moneytary gain in the project. Then both parties would work together.

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Properties › Re: Construction Of A Four Bedroom Duplex. Ipaja, Lagos by raymondFirstborn(op): 1:47pm On Oct 11, 2020

haaa:
What is going on with this project?

Project is at finishing level now and Tilling is ongoing. One of the clients relatives is handling procurement of materials and like most clients he doesn't see the need for an engineer at the finishing stage(which is wrong), because an engineer who has an eye for interior design would do justice to a buildings interior.

I have been busy on other projects outside LAGOS, so I have not been able to monitor the project.

Properties › Re: STUDIO MUJAZINI (affordable Architectural Design And Construction) by raymondFirstborn(op): 8:31am On Oct 11, 2020

Paris10

Good morning.
We offer Architectural Design services

Properties › Re: KNOW THE COST OF YOUR BUILDING PROJECT TODAY-GET YOUR BOQ &BUILDING ESTIMATES by raymondFirstborn(op): 4:07pm On Oct 10, 2020

richec74:
Two units of two bedroom on 300sqm. Any idea?

What's the nature of the soil?
Dry or waterlogged

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 1:02pm On Oct 08, 2020

megacontrol:
Thanks, Ray.

I know Amity estate and it is good to know that about N40m will work. Plus we def don't need a swimming pool.

However with foundation pegged at N6m, will I be correct to say the internal finishing was cut back a little to keep it below 40m?
Will you rate the finish as mid-range or top of the range? And was this done recently? Maybe before materials hit the roof.

Let me add that I admire your work.
You are one of the low-key guys here doing big things. Very underrated dude!

Good luck with the night club and other projects ongoing.

Cheers!

This particular project was finished last year, the foundation cost around N8m.
Even last year there was also a period were prices went up too.

Carcass with pilling cost N21.5m
Finishing - 14.5m.
Fencing 2m .
Compound floor(stamped concrete and filling)2m

-mid range finishing.

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 7:39am On Oct 08, 2020

megacontrol:
Hello people,

I'm just curious ... can N38m to N40m ish deliver a top quality 5-bedroom duplex (on a 1.3m raft foundation) in today's money?

If not, what will be your rough estimate?

My numbers are:
4-boards Raft foundation incl oversight concrete ~ N5m
From foundation to roof ~N15m (i.e. complete carcass = 5m+15m = N20m)
Top level finishing ~ N15m

Of course we will be making proper plans including BOQ. It's early days yet, so just trying to play with some numbers.

Feel free to chime in with your thoughts, especially those currently building either as a client or contractor.
Location is Lekki.

Thanks

We built this for a client at Amity estate abijo , a 5bedroom duplex with indoor pool.
it's sitting on pile foundation 18m deep.
And we spent N36m , with fencing and other items of work , total cost amounted to
N40m.

So Yes 40m would erect a 5bedroom duplex

For the foundation budget N5.5- 6M.

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Properties › Re: KNOW THE COST OF YOUR BUILDING PROJECT TODAY-GET YOUR BOQ &BUILDING ESTIMATES by raymondFirstborn(op): 4:43pm On Oct 04, 2020

raymondFirstborn:
Good evening.

Properties › Re: KNOW THE COST OF YOUR BUILDING PROJECT TODAY-GET YOUR BOQ &BUILDING ESTIMATES by raymondFirstborn(op): 10:12pm On Oct 02, 2020

Good evening.

Properties › Re: Advise On Cost Of Building This House by raymondFirstborn(m): 6:13pm On Oct 01, 2020

webmasteremma:
Good morning Nairalanders,
Happy 60th independence and happy new month.
I am planing to embark on a building project with plan below,

I will like to know what it will cost from start to finish.

I will also I like to know if it is advisable to pay for Local Government and Urban fees before the start of this project as it is so expensive.

The location is Port Harcourt.

As for the urban fees, I would advice you pay, but you can also make payments while the project is ongoing.

You can contact me for detailed cost breakdown.
09056082348(call & WhatsApp)
raymondfubara@gmail.com

Properties › Re: Advise On Cost Of Building This House by raymondFirstborn(m): 6:11pm On Oct 01, 2020

webmasteremma:
Good morning Nairalanders,
Happy 60th independence and happy new month.
I am planing to embark on a building project with plan below,

I will like to know what it will cost from start to finish.

I will also I like to know if it is advisable to pay for Local Government and Urban fees before the start of this project as it is so expensive.

The location is Port Harcourt.

As for the urban fees, I would advice you pay, but you can also make payments while the project is ongoing.

You can contact for detailed cost breakdown.
09056082348(call & WhatsApp)
raymondfubara@gmail.com

I am from pH, the cost would depend on the level of finishing.