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fajuyi59:
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Price: 20k

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Wingnut007:
Thanks for the response. Just to be clear Is the estimate above for carcass or finished? I am assuming the living room, kitchen, masters and other rooms will be spacious.

Can you also help break the estimate down in this form (Foundation, Decking, Roofing, Ground Floor Walls, First Floor Walls, etc).

I have also noticed a recent roofing trend. Been seeing a lot of flat roofs springing up as opposed to the regular cone like roofs. Is there a particular reason for that? Or is it that the flat roof design is cheaper?

The cost is for carcass Alone.

Foundation (raft)- 5,000,000
Blockwork ground floor- 2,000,000
Decking - 3,500,000
Blockwork upperfloor - 2500,000
Roofing with flat roof- 2,000,000

Yes flat roof is cheaper.

Wingnut007:
Can a 4 bedroom duplex, attached BQ with two or more parking spaces sit comfortably on a 300sqm piece of land?

Also, what would be rough estimate in terms of cost (estimated cost can be that of carcass or finished) when building such in an area like Sangotedo, Lekki?

Thanks in advance.

Yes it would .

Sangotedo area would need either raft or pile.

Raft foundation to roofing - (15m).

Jumyg:
Please how can this be resloved.

Remedy would depend on the type of building, nature of the soil and level of dampness (mild or severe).

Wingnut007:
If I understand this correctly, it means the dampness is coming from the foundation. If that's the case, how can this have been prevented? Can this also happen to a raft foundation?

If damp proof membrane isn't used used during german floor, you might experience rising damp.

gbadexy:
I think identifying the source of the water first is most important.
With the information you gave, it could be from rain water soaking the walls from outside and a good quality matte paint could solve that.
You still have to identify the likely source though. I only commented based on the available information given.

In this case it's rising from the blockwork below ground level 2ft(600mm deep). The main concern are the internal walls.

gbadexy:
Waterproof paint or water repellent screeding materials can never be as effective as undercoat and those would at best protect the part used.
If there is no escape outlet for the water, it would still push it off.
I have water repellent paint and could make water repellent screeding materials but then paint won't be able to bond to it properly.

Ok, my area of concern is rising damp in especially old buildings. It's not like there's a direct impact of water and land is not water logged or swampy. Just typical dry land with an old building with damp, you don't think water proof coats would work?.

gbadexy:
Good morning chief.
As anything with water goes, prevention is better than cure.
In the event there is damp on the wall, it's best to use paint that would allow the wall to breathe.
There are some specialty paints with large pores to make this possible and it won't manifest on the wall but the air in the building would be damp and humid with possibility of respiratory illness.
The solution I feel is best suited in this part of the world with the available materials to work with is the use of undercoat from the bottom to the top of the room with the damp.
Apply it halfway and it may reappear at the part it ends.
For the external of the building, they could use a very light coat of a good quality paint in a single coat as the skirting so that the film coat is light to allow ground water to escape from there.
They could use any paint of there choice above the skirting. The reason is to provide an alternative weak spot for the ground water to evaporate and escape from.
Some people make the mistake of applying oil based gloss as the skirting. This worsens it as it seals off the point of contact of the building and the ground and doesn't allow the water easy passage. The water would eventually peel it off and possibly damage the plaster also.
You can't stop water but only channel it in a controlled manner.

Ok, personally, I have been doing a bit of research on water proof paints and water repellant screeding materials.

gbadexy:
Thanks for your kind words sir. It means a lot coming from a very learned and experienced personality as yourself.

@gbadexy

What do you have to say about paints for dampwalls.
Especially walls with rising damp.

mufutau55:
@raymondfirstborn

I do understand all your explanations... so I do not need to quote all your message in full.

Please read my reply to @haa post which I have explained things. Many ppl do not understand the meaning of "fees", so they need to be informed.
You have not done anything wrong by adding your Supervision fees which is normal practice. You have not committed any crime.
Prolonging some explanations may cause more problems. If the Client has problem with your cost, all he has to do is reject it and everyone goes their peaceful ways. You lose some, you win some. Thank you.

Hajji M.

Thanks hajji

haaa:
WHICH CUT? ANYWAY, PLEASE KEEP THE SAME ENERGY WHEN I GET MY HANDS ON THAT WINDOW QUOTATION. I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO GET IT. THE MAIN POINT HERE IS TO JUSTIFY REASON WHY YOU REMOVED ENGINEER MONEY OFF THE WINDOW QUOTATION WHEN IT SHOULD NOT BE SO.

Even if you get the quotation and post , it still won't take away the fact that I and the client agreed on 1,057,000, which is the total amount I received.

And you would still not understand how I added my percentage to the unit cost. That's the difference between a building professional and a layman.

When you buy a bag of cement from DANGOTE, does he tell you the percentage of profit he makes from one bag .

If I am you , I would get a job.

haaa:
NOW YOU ARE BRINGING BOOKS INTO IT BUT IN THE FIELD YOU ARE MAKING AND DOING ERRORS. ANYONE CAN PASS THROUGH SCHOOL, BUT ANYONE CANNOT DO THE FIELD WORK. THE FIELD WORK IS DIFFERENT FROM ALL WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

THE INFUCTUATION IN A BUILDING CONTRACT IS VOID ONLY IF ITS NOTED OR WRITTEN IN THE CONTRACT. YOU ARE NOT MAKING SENSE HERE. TO CROWN ALL YOUR ARGUEMENT INSTEAD OF QUOTING DEFINITIONS, WHY CANT WE SEE YOUR WINDOW QUOTATION CONTRACT THAT YOU SENT TO YOUR CLIENT OR ANYWHERE YOU TOLD YOU CLIENT THAT TOTAL PRICE COULD BE CHANGED DUE TO DATED MARKET VALUE.

I WILL STOP RESPONDING TO YOU IF YOU CANNOT SHOW US THE WINDOW QUOTATIONS. IF YOU CANT, THEN I SEE REASON WHY THE CLIENT IS UPSET.

I showed you a screenshot of how much the client sent and that's all, so why are you jumping all over my thread. .
What's in the quote I sent is none of your business, what matters is the final amount agreed on.

Now I see
You are just a pained relative who is annoyed , I didn't give him a cut from my Engineers fee.

Just imagine,
@haaa dragging my name because of 70k+ supervision fee.
Other engineers charge double and triple that amount.

haaa:
I CANNOT CONTROL WHAT YOU THINK OR BELIEVE. IT IS OKAY IF YOU THINK I AM, BUT I AM SURE IF I WAS, THEN ALL THIS YOU ARE SAYING, YOU WONT DARE TO SAY IT BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE TEA TO SPILL HERE.

YOU ARE RIGHT, ITS ONE FORM OF A CONTRACT TO AGREES TO WHAT YOU WANT TO BUY OR SELL. BUT TELL ME, WHY WILL YOU AS AN ENGINEER GO BACK TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL 80K? IS THAT PART OF YOUR CONTRACT YOU SIGNED WITH THE CLIENT? THE PROBLEM IS THAT, WHEN SIGNED A LEGALLY BINDING DOCUMENT CONTRACT, THERE IS NO ROOMS FOR ASKING MORE MONEY UNLESS ITS WRITTEN IN THE CONTRACT OTHERWISE. THAT IS THE CONTRACT, I AM TALKING ABOUT.

YOU SOUND VERY RUDE, YOU KNOW WHY? I AM A NAIRALANDER THAT LOOKS AROUND HERE MORE OFTEN, AND INSTEAD OF YOU TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF, YOU ARE BEING DEFENSIVE.

NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT A CONTRACT MEANS, ARE YOU READY TO POST THE WINDOW QUOTATION YOU SENT TO YOUR CLIENT?

If you understand what a contract is, then you should understand what "fluctuation in a building contract is".

Won't be giving any more responses.

[[/quote]@haaa
I still believe you are the client relative
Why are you so pained?

If a full grown adult doesn't understand how a "percentage" is being added to the unit cost of an item, then there's no point arguing with you.

You still don't understand what a contract is.
When you do come and let's talk.

You dont know that when a client gives an engineer money to supply and install Windows , and there's written agreement that it is a contract?

So when you give someone money to supply and install doors ? What do you call that.


If I were you , I would go on the internet and do a research on contracts.

Are you pained because I removed my engineers fee of 70k+ and didn't give you any part of it.



I won't be giving any more response.

[/quote]Hajji @Mufutau55
Everyone knows Contractors add percentages to building Cost , and it doesn't have to be stated what percentage was added.
@haaa if you don't know, then you need a tendering and Estimating (QUS202) lecture.
Moreover total funds I received was N1,057,000.
My fabricator got 980,000. Which is a difference of N77,000.

My fee removed was N77,000.
@haaa you should be able to confirm the above stated.
@haaa. So if I you are sending a client a quotation for a contract you would indicate in the contract document what your percentage for overhead is?

@haaa you should get your facts right, the fabricator requested for extra 80k because price of materials between July to September had increased. Moreover the client made payments in two installments, if we had gotten the money for the windows at once , materials would have been purchased at once.

I won't be surprised if @haaa is the clients relative.

So @haaa you are saying that an engineer is wrong for adding his percentage for supervision.

@haaa do you even know what a contract is? And the elements that make contract valid.

haaa:
OKAY, BUT YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. ((((HOW DID YOU ADD YOUR ENGINEER MONEY TO THE QUOTATION? DO YOU MIND EXPLAINING THIS TO US BECAUSE I GATHERED MY OWN PEICE OF THE INFO REGARDING THAT WINDOW SITUATIONS)))))

I added a percentage to the unit cost of the Windows.8% in this case.

haaa:
OKEY DOKIE @RAYMONDFIRSTBORN. I AM NOT MAKING ANY ACCUSATIONS AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLES' REPUTATIONS ARE ON THE LINE BUT MANY PEOPLE ALWAYS BLAME CLIENTS AND FAMILIES WHEN A BUILDING PROJECT STOP. I THINK IT IS TIME EVERYONE TAKES ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS. I TRIED TO GET SCREEN MUNCH CONVERSATIONS TO SOLIDIFY MY POINT FROM THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW BUT THEY COULD NOT GET IT. HOW DID YOU ADD YOUR ENGINEER MONEY TO THE QUOTATION? DO YOU MIND EXPLAINING THIS TO US BECAUSE I GATHERED MY OWN PEICE OF THE INFO REGARDING THAT WINDOW SITUATIONS.

A project that's still ongoing you say it has stopped.

I took over from lintel level.

Client bought materials and brought worker's that cast the decking. Client also brought workers that did blocksetting also.

During roofing , the client brought all roofing materials and engaged the services of money 121 for installation of roofing sheet.

So how would i mismanage a project where the clients relative is the project manager.?

Haaa

Contractors/engineers have a way of adding their fees to quotation. It's called markup.
An engineer can add a percentage for his fee to each unit of Windows what would be supplied.
Or can charge a flat rate.
But in this case percentage for markup was added for engineers fees .

Range is between 5% - %25 which is the standard around the world.
In the meantime , I would implore you to pull down the initial post you made about mismanagement, because that's wrong.

A building that I took over, and had to redesign.

Moreover this project has not stopped, I don't know who your source is and I don't know who you are . At the moment internal wall screeding is ongoing.
If I am chanced I would go to site and update this thread.

Give us a call

Haaa[/quote]This is a public forum , before making accusations, note that people's reputation are on the line.

I didn't mismanage this particular project, because I was partially in charge of labour and not involved in Procurement(materials).
The client paid worker's during casting of decking.
The client also paid the workers during blocksetting. He also handled roofing himself.


I was on-site most of the time.
Although considering I had other projects ongoing, It would be impossible to always be on the site 8hrs long. The only time I wasn't really present was during pop finishing.

Pouring materials into block holes is not a waste of material.

In situations were the blocks the owner supplied are weak blocks and are not up to standard, I can fill up the hollow in the block(this should be after other options have failed). But in this particular project I didn't fill up the blocks with concrete because there was no need for that.

WINDOW.

Let me address this, the client asked for quotation for the windows . I get a quote from the aluminum installer , I add my engineers fee to it , then send to the client. Anything wrong with that? In this particular case, after the aluminum fabricator got the first installment, he started work.

By the Time the client forwarded the next installment , prices of materials had increased.(anyone into aluminum can testify to this, between July - August - September, prices of aluminum went up.
Then the fabricator requested for more money.
80k extra to make up for increase In price of materials. Anything bad about that?

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Front view after ammendments.
-We raised the entrance floor .
-Designed existing pillars with 6" blocks.

Today's work.
Ammendments
We Changed the existing 4ft windows to some thing contemporary.

haaa:
Why is this engineer @Raymondfirstborn deleting my messages on his post and also reporting/blocking me? I think Nairalanders will be happy to know what happened on this topic.

I didn't report you.
It's the NL mods. I also had difficulty posting on the thread. If You report some one On a thread, except if you have broken any of the NL rules, then the post would be deleted.

But you have not broken any of the NL rules, so the mods won't delete your post.

haaa:
Why is this engineer @Raymondfirstborn deleting my messages on his post and also reporting/blocking me? I think Nairalanders will be happy to know what happened on this topic.

I didn't any of your post boss.
It's the NL mods

More pictures of work on the pillars.

Working on the pillars.

chuksbogus2001:
How much tentatively do you think this house will cost, a rough estimate please

Approximately N12m - N15m.

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Roofing Done

bmarketing:
What is the total cost of this project?

Approximately N24m