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Nwaikpe:
The conversation is getting stale.
But I’ll leave you with this: the truth is about facts, and not about “other people’s perspectives” neither is it about “religious inclination.”


If it was about it, then I would have “free my mind” to agree with you that Persia was an “Islamic state.”

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Please as you have started reading today, don't stop. Just read as much as you can. Free your mind and allow yourself to learn new things, learn to see things from other people's perspectives. It will help shape your way of thinking and enables you to see things with a sense of rationality and make objective judgement, regardless of the religious indoctrinations you were raised into. Just keep reading, there is hope for you yet.

Nwaikpe:
At least you are learning new things.
It’s my hobby educating a “Nairaland PhD.”

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Because Reza Pahlavi changed their name from Persia to Iran that means that was the day their civilization was born . Am really really happy you've learnt something today . We are getting close, just continue reading, e remain small make you understand. You must learn today.

Nwaikpe:
Even that WAEC sef, if I hear say you get am.
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“Iranian civilization” ke!

I never mentioned that. What I said is “the imperialist state of Iran.” There has never been anything like an Iranian civilization. In fact, that is what I have been trying very hard to inform your powerful post WAEC PhD intelligence. 😅😅😅
Little do you know that even the Persian Empire you are trying so hard to relate the Islamic state of Iran with was dismantled thousands of years ago by Greece. In fact, the dynasty before the Phelavi in 1925 was the Ottoman, and before them was the Qajar.

As you dey here dey try paste Persian “civilization” on the Islamic republic, I want you to know this:

1. Reza Shah Pahlavi, who founded the Pahlavi dynasty, tried so hard to stop the international community from referring to them as “Persian.” He said, they are IRAN!
2. The Islamic state of Iran has tried very hard to wipe out all connections to Persia and that same Iran, and have made consistent corrections that they are “THE ISLAMIC STATE” of Iran.

But one boy in Nigeria, that has more than a WAEC, with a PhD, is saying “Persian Civilization” = “Islamic republic of Iran civilization.”

It’s just like telling the Islamic state of Syria today, that they are the old Assyrian civilization. 😅😅😅. The Arabs for just do you something wey you no like. 😅😅😅

Shamefully wrong for saying Iran civilization was born in 1925. You sure say u finish secondary school like this? make e no be say na WAEC holder i dey waste my time with.

Nwaikpe:
Is that how to say “I agree I am shamefully wrong” in your native language?

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This part cracked me up very much i couldn't even continue reading . This Olodo uprising is going to be loud

Nwaikpe:
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Somehow, a little man thinks that consistently saying t in the huge man, “you are small,” will make the little man big. And yes, it makes him big in his own eyes.
Now that is the story of your conversation and the “Olodo uprising” statement. 😅😅😅

[/b]Back to the matter: Very young, the Imperial State of Iran was born in 1925[b], before officially becoming the Islamic Republic of Iran on April 1, 1979. Apart from their language, not even their culture or religion ties them to the Medes and Persia. They don’t qualify to hold the title of “Iran is as old as 500 BCE.” Just as Iraq don’t qualify to inherit the history of The Assyrian and Babylonian empire because they are culturally disconnected, even with the name. Even Egypt, even though bearing the name, are Arabs, and not truly Egyptians and by reason of culture, cannot inherit the history of Egypt. All these can do it only by location. 😅😅😅

Only few people who could claim their history: India, Israel, Ethiopia, Spain, Romania, etc. they are the only ones that can claim a history of the land they are. Since their culture hardly changed from the culture of old.

Imagine Arab usurpers from Saudi Arabia, taking over a land, changing it to Iran, and then claiming to be Persians. 😅😅😅

You have no single fact to back your arguments rather than emotions and books (the bible and quran) that have no references or independently verifiable evidence whatsoever.
The very notion that you cannot bring yourself to admit that modern day Jews, the Netanyahu's and Ben Shapiro's of today that are proper white men (Europeans) both phenotypically and genetically without the slightest bit of DNA to the people of Judea is mind blowing to me.

How difficult it is for you to get that Judaism is a religion and the idea of association by bloodline is that of story told for land grabbing and claiming settlemets. How then is it that we have Europeans became Jews (Ashkhanazi jews) without having any bloodline to the original tribe of Judea and Samaria in faraway middle east. How then did we have African jews (Abayudaya jews in uganda) who clearly have no bloodlines with Benjamin and Judah. By your definition of Bloodline Judaism those people are not jews.

Kobojunkie:
I think I have already more than explained this to you the best I can. Since you hold fast to your particular ignorance, there is nothing I can do for you there.

Again, even in the Quran, a non-Jewish book, clearly states that the Jews are the bloodline of Israel(Bani Israeli), a people who predate your European delusions.
The Romans who renamed the land of Judea to Syria-Palestine attest to this fact as well. A quick search would reveal that the word has its genesis in many centuries ago. But, I see, the facts are less important than the arguing. So, I go waka instead.

I really need to laugh very hard at this your statement. This is what religion does to you people; a reasonable person suddenly loses his sense of rational judgment because of emotional connections to doctrines he was raised to believe in.

If not for religious indoctrination, how does any of the things you just said make any sense to you. That the word jew refers to those who share a common DNA with Benjamin and Judah. So how do modern day Jews who are mostly of European descent share a common DNA with Judea and Samaria that is in the middle east? A Palestinian today has more semitic genes than any average Israeli of today. Benjamin Nethanyahu's father is from Poland so was his mother, they migrated to the middle east after the Holocaust. So you mean to tell me that Netanyahu who is by all phenotypic characteristic a white man from the depth of Caucasus Mountain shares the same DNA with the biblical Benjamin and Judah? Dey whine yourself, no be me.

Kobojunkie:
1. Christianity is solely a religion; everyone knows this much. The religion is open to people of all kinds, no bloodline requirements.🤔

2. Islam is a political system masquerading as a religion. Its goal is to take over the world violently, if need be. It is not much concerned about bloodlines but about power and control. 🤔

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The word Jew is instead a term that refers to the blood(DNA) descendants of the tribes of Benjamin and Judah, sub-tribes of the people of Israel, the former inhabitants of the ancient nation of Judah, pronounced Jeu-dah or Jehu-dah. 🤔

Lol! Israel always coming up with these stories to keep dragging the US into more wars. That was how they said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and dragged the US to a war that left over one million people dead, till today weapons of mass destruction we no see.

So Christainishness is the bloodline while Christianity is the religion, similarly Islamishness is the bloodline while Islam is the religion. Make una continue to invent terminologies to justify nonsense.

Kobojunkie:
1. I believe you are conflating two different things here. I am not sure why!
Jewishness is the bloodline while judaism is the religion one is able to convert to. However, conversion does not make one a part of the bloodline.

2. The same literally applies as far as Jewishness. You have no right to go and demand land in the nation of Israel merely because you claim to have converted to the religion of Judaism. So, I am not sure what you think you are on to here.

3. But, again, your confusion is not shared! I never said anything about a Jew claiming land in the middle east merely by being of a bloodline or something. I instead said by Jews I refer to those who are descendants of the Jewish Tribes of Israel.

As for the land where these Jews landed and now live, much land had been purchased by Jews from Arab landlords before the British finally gave the land in the rest of the region over to the nation of Israel in 1948.

Then the Nakba happened, and Israel, by winning the war against the 5 armies, obtained control over approximately 78% of historic Palestine formerly controlled by the 5 armies.

God forbid bad thing! See as I just dey waste my time on Olodo all in the name of social media. I said Iranian civilisation was 5,000 years old and that is a fact of history you can take to the bank. Who mentioned anything about a Hebrew empire or is it just a lame attempt to deflect from the fact that you didn't know that Iran was over 5,000 years old?

This Olodo uprising is really gaining momentum .

Nwaikpe:
Jumping up and down posting AI response about Susa and Elamite kingdom and referring to it as “Persian.” You even refused to read what you posted sef.

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It’s just like Hebrews tracing themselves to the people of Canaan and adding the years of Canaan, Amorites, Amalekites, AI, Jebusites, etc. to their years.

Furthermore, the Iranians are not “Persians.” They are Iranians. I just gave them the grace of Medes and Persia. The empire of Medes and Persia was dissolved by Greece hundreds of years even before the Roman Empire.

Oya, chop google search here. I even posted it with my clean unbiased prompt so that you can see.

Please, I don't mean to be rude, is it that you are a child, or you just don't have basic reasoning. Let me make this simple for you "Jewishness" is not a blood line; it's a religion like Christianity and Islam. People of different race can choose to believe and practice any of the religion they like, that doesn't make them genetically related to the founder of the religion.

Let me give you an example, someone who is Muslim in Sokoto has no right whatsoever to go to mecca to demand land and property from Arabs claiming to have a bloodline with Prophet Muhammad, simply because he believes in his religion.

Do you get it? In the same way a Ugandan who is a Jew or a Ukrainian who is a Jew has no right to go to the middle east to demand land and property claiming to have a bloodline with Moses simply because he believes in his religion.

Kobojunkie:
1. Last I checked, Jewishness literally is a bloodline. What does it matter whether they lived in Europe or not. So long as they belong to the Jewish bloodline, they are Jews. They are literally referred to in Quran as Bani Israel -- sons of Israel aka the bloodline of Israel -- by the famed prophet of Islam.

What you are saying is utterly ridiculous. You are saying that the modern-day Jews who are European victims of the Holocaust (Jews from Germany, Poland, Belarus, Ukraine and all-over eastern Europe) that were granted a Jewish state by the Balfour declaration are the same stalk of Israelite that the "famed prophet of Islam" acknowledged in mecca. Wow! just WOW!

Kobojunkie:
Wrong! Even the Jews that the famed prophet of Islam met in the land of mecca, he acknowledged were also part of the Israelite stalk.

However, many of the IRGC mullahs are persians however, not all IRGC members are persians.
So declaring that the IRGC is persia or connected to the persian empire with a history dating back about 5000 years is not true.

Hahaha. This your comment really made me laugh a lot . Same way the IDF does not represent the Israelites, they are bred from European colonizers who settled in the middle east in 1948.

Kobojunkie:
The IRGC do not represent the persians. Rather, they are bred from the Islamic colonizers who colonized the Persians about 50 years ago.

I trust the Iranians to match madness for madness.

The Straits is the only reason the Iranians are still in this fight, the moment they give that up they are toast.

codedguy1:
That straits wiil be Irans undoing. keep goading them to their destruction.

Nope. Not at all. I am not religious in any sense.

DLifeless1:
Are you a muslim?

Something that you could have easily verified with a quick google search, before embarrassing yourself. But no, it's like you people are allergic to learning or something. I have always known that people who support Israel are either doing it because of religious indoctrination or share ignorance and here you are proving to be both. Tufiakwa!

Nwaikpe:
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5000 years.

Dem say make una go school, una refuse.

Even the Kingdom of Israel wey dem born Medea come see, no dey reach 5000 years old.

Is Persia the kingdom of Mesopotamia?
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Anyways, your supreme leader is gone.
The small Greece of today (Israel), have cleaned his name off the earth.

Real war ke?? . Abeg they should do and start it fast fast o, we are here for it. Let us all learn that there is a reason the Iranian (or Persian as they were called by the Greeks) civilization has survived for over 5,000 years and will continue to exist even after Nwaikpe from Biafra has declared them to vanish after downloading Eba and Okro soup .

Nwaikpe:
By sea piracy?
Somalians did the madness pass that one na.
No be until the US settle the madness?

No worry yourself about this new sea pirates.
America go soon stop these “war games” and start real war. Then just like the Somalians, they too will vanish. 😅😅😅

That one concern you, i am not going to be the one to educate you on history and geography . all i know is that whether Palestinians, Persians or Iranians, these militants are more than capable to match madness for madness and am here for it

Nwaikpe:
Persians?
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You mean the Palestinians that are occupying the government of Iran? 😅
Dude, the IRGC don’t even refer to themselves as “Persians” but as jeehardeest militants. 😅😅😅

The good thing be say i trust the Persians to match madness for madness. Una must learn. Craze has a limit

Nwaikpe:
Then we will hit a million.

Una must learn.

Cho Cho Cho has a limit.

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There is clearly no victory to be won here by the US.
If you like bomb hundred thousand target and kill one million people, the Strait of Hormuz is a fact of geography that has existed since the beginning of time and will remain till the end of time; no amount of bombs can change that

Aura for Aura. You strike me, I strike back, God no go vex

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All this new wave of strikes is a testament to Trumps frustration that he could not achieve in Iran what he achieved in Venezuela .
The simple fact is that there is no way Iran will EVER lose to the US.
The Strait of Hormuz is a fact of geography that has existed since the beginning of time and will continue to exist till the end of time. If you like drop bombs from now till thy kingdom come and kill another 1 million people you cannot take it away.

Japan ko Mexico ni. . Na Iran go finally make Trump run mad.

It is now clear to him that there is no victory to be won in Iran. The fact is that the Strait of Hormuz is a fact of geography that has existed since the beginning of time and will remain till the end of time. If you like drop bombs from now till thy kingdom come you cannot change that. The only way to get it open is through diplomacy, full stop.

These Zionists are indeed a tumor in the middle east; they will never allow peace to reign in the region. Thank God Iran has the antidote to their madness .

You go explain taya. You dey compare Russia wey be world power to Iran wey be average country with almost 50 years of sanctions . Who Khamenei help? The man is 86 years old make him self go rest. Nothing concern me with generals wey kpai; that wan na their cup of tea (occupational hazard). Watin concern me be say Iran save Lebanon from Israeli terrorism, get sanction relief, 300 billion that is much bigger than their current economy, announced themselves to the world as a regional power and most importantly turned Trump and JD Vance against Israel. That is heaven and earth for Iran

UrVillageChief:
They actually died for nothing for accepting a deal. Accepting the deal (a deal they constantly denied negotiating initially btw😂) ultimately signals that the Iranian people can be killed like fowls if you want and all you need to appease them is monetary compensation because how Pesin go kill your papa, mama, Generals, 168 innocent kids and over 3 thousand others and even destroyed your home and you still carried your two left legs to go sign a deal with such a person?😂
Imagine killing Putin, his wife, mother together with many of his Generals only for Russia to agree to collecting monetary compensation😂
No, Russia would never accept that and nobody can even try such nonsense with a super power because it's going to signal the end of civilization
The compensation even has a clause that it would be disbursed only if Iran complies with the terms of the deal😂
BTW, what is Iran going to rebuild with the 300 Billion because the last time I checked, bots on this forum claimed Iran wasn't destroyed.

No Iranian died for nothing ; they died on their feet for their country's freedom from imperialists never bowing down. And their future generations will reap the spoils of victory like they are doing now

UrVillageChief:
Thank you for the confirmation that money is worth more than human lives in Iran😂😂
This doesn't even exclude their most respected religious leader.
This again, highlights the stark difference between these two countries. While one doesn't joke with the lives of even the lowest of its citizens, the other While one spent a fortune, sacrificed aircrafts and resources to retrieve just one pilot, the other is settling for monetary compensation. The likes of Ayatollah, the 168 innocent schoolgirls, Abdolrahim Mousavi, Mohammad Pakpour, Majid Mousavi, Aziz Nasirzadeh, Ali Shamkhani, Gholamreza Rezaian, Majid Khademi, Alireza Tangsiri, Asghar Bagheri, Yazdan Mir, Jamshid Eshaghi, Ali Mohammad Nain, all died for nothing. Again, na who die lose.

You get arguments before

Helinuse:
1. True
2. Ok.
3. Ok.

Even Khamenei go kpai himself for Iran to get 300 billion dollars. Who Khamenei help? he is 86 years old, make him self go rest. 300 billion dollars is bigger than Iran's current economy and they are also getting sanctions relief, they are now selling their oil at international prices, they got Israel to stop their expansion in Lebanon, and a newfound control over the strait of hormuz. If the US had asked nicely before the war am sure Iran would have gave them Khamenei and every gram of enriched uranium in their possession to get all this. This deal is heaven and earth for Iran, I still can't believe it's real.

UrVillageChief:
As if they had any choice😂
The deal that Khamenei failed to get is now being signed while he's rotting away. A serious country would have fought with its last pint of blood to get justice for its leader before agreeing to sit for any deal.
The US is a very big bully because how you go kpai Pesin papa come give am money as compensation?😂
Iran collect 300 Billion forget about Ayatollah Ali Khamenei😂