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Poor Venezuela, a simple pawn to be sacrificed.

Iran is teaching smaller countries and an important lesson; when facing an oppressor just try your best, even if you don't win, never give you oppressor an easy ride.

Imagine a country boasting about using your country's oil to fund their personal endeavors .

Last night was the happiest night of my life as an Arsenal fan.

This is such a wonderful news. We hope to hear more like this

This war is essentially over. It is now evident to Trump that a continued and prolonged fighting would not bring the US closer to their objectives. Iran's ability to inflict proportionate amount of damage and pain to their gulf neighbors who are long term allies of the US coupled would with their control of the strait of Hormuz has been a major deterrence.

The US is now completely dependent of on their naval blockade to force Iran to surrender while Iran is hoping economic pressure will force the US to back down. Lets see who blinks first.

Trump also admitted to sending a lot of guns to Iranian rebels during the protests. So, for all we know those that were killed were not peaceful protesters, they were the rebel groups armed by Trump in a bid to topple the government at the time

Yes oo. Iran economy has been a hot mess for decades now. So person wey do see 99 no dey fear 100.

mayor1814:
Who is now losing? Iran is losing badly economically.

Trump is about to learn why Persia has been around for 5,000 years. They would rather dump their oil into the ocean than surrender. In order words when you chose to go to war with a pig, just be ready to roll in the mud, because the pig is not afraid of it.

What you are essentially saying is that Christianity should not exist in the first place. Since Jesus and his disciples were Jews and the bible was written by Jews. why then should those who follow Jesus have a different religion him; Christians should never have left their root in the first place. Jews don't like Christians; they are not secretive about that; they are allies because Christians have this undying urge to associate with them and it so happens that Christianity is the largest religion in the world with enough power and control. For the Jews they are in this relationship strictly because of the economic and security benefits the Christians are always itching to offer. Take that away and the Jews have nothing but contempt for Christians.

INJESUSNAME:
Christians ought to throw away their Bibles and what Christ teaches in it? Jesus came through the Jews, all his 12 disciples were Jews, the whole of the Bible was written by the Jews. Christians cannot forget their root for whatever reason, they can still repent and become followers of Christ later. Jews don't like Christians, but their best allies are christians, even muslims are commanded to kill Jews and Christians, but Christians are commanded not to kill anyone, of not, muslims won't be doing all these to Christians.

Your very first sentence makes a lot of sense. To the Jews, Christianity and Islam are corrupted versions of their religion. People who wrote the bible basically read the Jewish Torah and perhaps though it had become too violent for the people of their era and then they came up with a more user friendly version that presented God as a nicer guy, which is the bible. Few hundred years latter Prophet Muhammad came along and thought Christianity was too nice so he wrote the Qura'an which was an adaptation of both the Christian bible and the Jewish Torah.

huptin:
Simple, both christians and muslims stole their religion corrupted and called it their own. So i uderstand why they should do that.

But only muslims wants them wiped off the face the earth! simply because their very existence put a lie to that Koran.

I have a whole monologue on the atrocities of Islam and Muslims from Prophet Muhammed himself to present day Muslims and if you want us to discuss that, we can.

But right now, this thread just triggered a question on something that I have often thought about, and no reasonable answer comes to mind. So if you have any plausible explanation as to why Christians always associate themselves with Jews while Jews consistently distance themselves from Christians, i would really like to hear it.

huptin:
But it did not blow your mind when your fellow devillish terrorists killed Deborah for voicing her faith in Christ...look into the mirror you are the exact definition of a hypocrite!

It blows my mind how Christians always try to force a sort of relationship or association with Jews and Israel. I just don't understand why. The Jews make no secret of their disgust towards Christianity. The things they say about Jesus and Mary, even someone like myself who is not religious find it repulsive to hear. I once heard a Jewish rabbi on YouTube say that, Jews would rather pray in a mosque than in a church because to them Christians are Polytheist, while Muslims are monotheistic.
Yet every day I hear Christians trying to claim some sort of reverence and connection to Jews, while the Jews don't seem to care.

After starting a fight, you say you are not looking for a fight. No sir, you must finish what you started.

Trump is the weapon fashioned against America.

This is in response to the German chancellor insinuating that Iran humiliated America by refusing to show up to the negotiating table in Pakistan.

How Trump built a business empire with such a petty mindset needs to be studied at Havard.

After all your beating around the bush, you still dance back to my point: "The sins of Pakistan do not absolve Israel of its sins." Whether it is Mohammed himself or Jesus Christ who commits an atrocity, I condemn it with my full chest . It is hypocrites like you guys that think because Pakistan is doing it or because Hitler also did it, then it is ok for Israel to do it. Yeye dey smell, indeed.

UrVillageChief:
Nobody is justifying the Israeli government’s wrongdoings in Lebanon with what Pakistan is doing in Afghanistan, we the sane ones are only pointing out your stinky hypocrisy and selective condemnation. All of you extremists conspicuously avoided the Pakistani an Hezbollah’s atrocities like a plague just because you share something in common with them. When Hezbollah kill Israeli soldiers and civilians, it’s perfectly normal and job well done but if the reverse happens, we start hearing about genocide and baby-killing🤣
My friend, If you must condemn evil, do so with all convictions regardless of who is behind it. A sane person would have used the same energy he’s using in condemning Israel to also condemn Hezbollah, Pakistan and the two countries that have made their territories safe havens for terrorists to launch deadly strikes on others i.e Lebanon and Afghanistan.
If you weren’t blinded by religion, you wouldn’t have been oblivious to what’s happening in Afghanistan because it’s just exactly the same thing that’s happening in Lebanon. Perhaps, if your fellow overly religious folks had trended the Pakistani war crime story in Afghanistan, you would have been better informed. Now that you know, kindly condemn all the parties involved without being selective🤣 At least, you know now.
You are now being ignored

This must certainly be a joke

Tufiakwa! Typical black man thinking. Very shortsighted. You think the world will end in 2 years or that if we do not live to see it, then it does not matter.

Netanyahu that has been planning this war with Iran for 40 years is he a fool? Or Iran that has been building missiles for 47 years to get what they have now were dealing with the present and near future, or America and Russia, which built thousands of nuclear warheads over the course of 35 years were thinking the world would end in 2 years. If by some accident someone like you becomes a leader of a society or organization, then the future of that society is doomed with this your kind of mindset.

Julius1995:
I enjoy reading all your "ifs". I dont dwell in it. You said 15 to 20 years, as if it were 2 years. Wealth is measurable, and based on current data, Iran is not wealthy. If it is based on the proven oil reserves, you can also argue that Venezuela is a wealthy country. Natural resources is not wealth. It is subject to factors of production and other economic intricacies.
And your argument that Iran will come seek revenge in 15 to 20 years is essentially stating that they are primitive people. Because there are many things a country can be; being a hardline theocracy is one of the dumbest thing any country can seek to be in modern world. Israel and Iran had no issues until the Mullah snatched power in 1979 and decided that Israel deserves no peace and sponsors shadow wars against Israel. If anybody should seek revenge, it should be Israel. Going by Iran's history and their governance system, what makes you think the Mullahs will not be disposed by other Iranians in your 15 to 20 years? You see, wishful thinking. Iran will not get any special sanction reliefs. By who?
Your conclusion on the economic implications of the war on China is simplistic.
Going by casualties, destruction, current standing, fatalities, loss, Israel is by far the biggest winner of the war. Any other thing is "creating ones happiness". Iran has never been this weak since the Iran - Iraq war. I deal in the present and near future. Not 20 years that is not sure for either of us.

You typed so many senseless things , i dont know which is worthy of response. Keep dwelling in your delusions. The wrongdoing of Pakistan in Afghanistan does not absolve the wrongdoings of Israel in Gaza and Lebanon; if you cannot handle that fact, report me to your pastor or imam

UrVillageChief:
As expected🤣
Don’t run, I really want you to engage in that rational conversation because you aren’t saying anything since. You are just being emotional. Just like I just did, please counter everything I said with your own rational argument, all these emotional outbursts change nothing.
I should be the one saying the gibberish you typed up there because what reasonable argument would I be having with someone who doesn’t even know that there’s an active confrontation between Pakistan and Afghanistan and you’re claiming to be versed on international politics?🤣
Go and up your knowledge on the happenings around the world before contributing your opinion on topics that are above your mental capacity.

This is the handiwork of the US and Israel; not everything is Tinubu.

You are very biased and religiously motivated. Engaging in a rational conversation with people like you is pointless and difficult.

UrVillageChief:
Yes my friend, you aren’t following the Pakistani aggression towards Afghanistan because you are the overly religious person I called you because you can’t be said to be conversant with the world happenings and not be aware of such a hotly debated event.
Secondly, you are an overly religious person for intentionally ignoring the fact that these people are also equally killing the Israelis and aren’t innocent either.
You being overly religious is the reason why when the Hezbollah kills an Israeli civilian or combatant, it feels normal but when the Israeli kills a civilian in their pursuit of the terrorists or even the Hezbollah combatants themselves, you start trending the news by giving it an ethnic cleansing/genocide coloration without addressing what led to the attacks in the first place.
A sane, non partisan person would support none of the parties because Israel is wrong for destroying innocent persons’ homes in their pursuit of the terrorists amongst them and in the same vein, the Hezbollah terrorists are very wrong for hiding among innocent civilians while throwing deadly punches and for trying to address a political issue through the use of violence; violence against a country that’s one thousand times more powerful while the Lebanese government too is wrong for not trying to caution these terrorists against using its territory as a base for attacking Israel. This is exactly what Pakistan is saying about Afghanistan. Pakistan is attacking Afghanistan because the country is being used to stage series of attacks on Pakistan and the Afghan government is doing nothing about it but you overly religious peeps aren’t trending the story since it’s not Israel. A Pakistani attacks prior to the Eid fitri claimed the lives of ovet 100 hundred Afghans but that didn’t trend because the perpetrators weren’t Jews, the people your religion teaches you to hate🤣

Currently holds the largest crude oil inventory in the world, estimated at nearly 1.4 billion barrels stored. So the idea that China is hurt by the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz is wishful thinking. And for China, anything that will distract the US and consume its resources is a welcome development.

You think Iran is not wealthy? They have the 3rd largest proven oil reserve in the world.
Moreover, if they manage to survive this war through a negotiated settlement, they will almost certainly get some form of sanction relief.

If this war ends without a regime change, Israel is undoubtedly the biggest loser. They will be leaving behind a vengeful, more motivated regime with the political will, technical know-how, and money to rebuild. All that Iran has lost, it will not take them more than 15 to 20 years to rebuild and restock it. And it is almost certain they will be more motivated to pursue a nuclear weapon than they were before. A nuclear Iran is a thought Israel cannot simply live with.

Julius1995:
First is that you deviate from the key point I raised. Secondly, they did not survive this war due to their own ability, the greatest deterrence in this war to Trump, U.S., and Israel is not Iran's capability, it is outrage among their respective citizens and allies. Iran had already started using human shield. Thats in some ways, conceding defeat. On the Strait, you are right, but there are some key issues you deliberately ignored: one, the strategy is also counterproductive (i.e. U.S blocking the Iran port), two, the blockade hurt countries that are a little friendly to Iran (like China), than it hurt any country in the West. And you dont become a world power by blocking international waterway, do it too long, and you will draw the outrage of even the people supporting you. On money, Iran is not a wealthy country, and not after this war where they took a loss/damage of hundreds of billions. The biggest winner in the war is actually Israel. Because it will take some tims before Iran can stabilise.

Joke of the year. Asking when Israel invade Lebanon. .
Na religious bigotry go finish una, Chukwudi.

BigSaint1914:
How did israel invade Lebanon ehen Mohammed?
Terrorist sympathizers
Hezbollah have been using Lebanon as their base and stronghold for years and you talking thrash
Death to all Terrorist simple
Weirdos

What you are saying is more like hope, not based on any factual reasoning.
The Strait of Hormuz will soon become useless? As in, will they be flying crude oil on airplanes, or will they build bridges over the sea?

"Israel and all the Arab countries Iran attacked won't allow it obtain nuclear power" What a joke. And what will they do to stop it? Bomb Iran? Netanyahu said he had wanted this war for 40 years, but never dared to do it on his own. Even in his wildest dreams, Netanyahu never dared to attack Iran without the help of the US.
And this war tells us why. Even with the US combined, Iran launched thousands of missiles and drones to not just Israel but also Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Israel, and Saudi Arabia at once. Now imagine all that firepower facing Israel alone without the help of the US.

INJESUSNAME:
The strait of Hormuz will soon become useless, there will be alternatives to the strait and Iran will be on its own. Israel and all the Arab countries Iran attacked won't allow it obtain nuclear power. It's like Iran downfall is inevitable.

Let me start by saying I am not religious by any means. But to ask when Lebanon became Hezbollah's home is something I would expect a religious person to say who believes in the promised land bullshit. Hezbollah are Lebanese; that makes Lebanon their home.

If you remove your religious cap for one minute and really look at what Israel is doing in Lebanon and Gaza at a human level, then you can see the gross violation of humanity going on there. I have no affection for Hezbollah or Hamas, but I can't imagine what my reaction would be if someone from India or somewhere else came to my village and told me the deity he serves promised him our village 3,000 years ago.

I must say that I have never really followed the Pakistan and Afghanistan wars. But if Pakistan is indeed killing and displacing civilians in Afghanistan, then they are as disgusting as the Israeli military.

UrVillageChief:
When did Lebanon become Hezbollah’s home? This is one thing I so much abhor about you overly religious folks (both Christains and Muslims alike), you are always selective and economical with the truth.
Maybe Lebanon should stop harboring Hezbollah or what do you think?. I can’t see you condemning Pakistan for attacking Afghanistan for killing innocent Afghans. The same offense, different judgements and opinions. Pakistan claimed that it’s attacking Afghanistan because it’s harboring a terror network (Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) that’s attacking Pakistan from the Afghan soils while Israel is claiming to be attacking Lebanon because it’s harboring Hezbollah that is coordinating attacks on Israel from the Lebanese soils. While these two countries are ultimately doing the same thing, you are silent about one while condemning and accusing the other of committing genocide just because the former is a Muslim country🤣.
The Genocide in Afghanistan isn’t trending since it’s not being committed by a non-Islamic country. The same Pakistan is the one brokering the peace deal between the US and Iran🤣🤣

I couldn't deal with the constant judgement. The disappointment and look of concern I got from friends and family was just too much. Some people don't even say anything, but I can see the look of concern in their eyes.
I still watch my health closely, though. No alcohol, and my BP and blood sugar levels have been very good. I still walk 10k steps daily and do my morning exercise routine every day. I just don't use the same strict diet regimen as before.

LIVINGICONREBOR:
You have very low self esteem. Are you living Ur life for yourself or for other people? When you get knocked down by one of those chronic diseases would they be the ones to sort your hospital bills or buy you drugs? You ought to be smarter than this.

That's fine by me. If the Jews and the Muslims want to wipe themselves off the planet, as an African, all I can do is grab my popcorn and watch.

gammarays:
This is the correct sequence. Hezbollah fired at Israel, Israel struck back and invaded them. No peace for terrorists and their sympathizers!

You invade people's homes; they fight back, you call them terrorists.

jaxxy:
When israel responds now u will start crying genocide. Allow peace to reign u say no u want to do terrorism.

Nigerian culture is hostile to healthy living. At one point I was overweight, so I decided to embark on a weight loss journey just to keep my BMI in check. I quit alcohol, soft drinks, pasta, and bread. Started walking 10k steps every day. In two months' time the number of people that asked if I was sick or had lost my job was just so much that I had to abandon the weight loss. Now i am back to being overweight.

Nobody said that, and anyone who did clearly does not know what it means to be called a world power. What is objectively true is that if this regime somehow manages to survive this onslaught from both the US and Israel, then they may well be on their way. With their newfound ability to control the flow of 20% of global energy, obtaining a nuclear weapon could effectively put them as a fourth center of world power, which will be their big objective if they somehow survive the war.

UrVillageChief:
I thought there was a thread on this forum about how Iran was already considered a world power for dealing with the US, why are you saying they will emerge from this as a world power again?
You are confusing us o🤣

You don't seem to realize that a prolonged blockade would not only hurt the global economy but also all the Gulf allies of the US. Iran was never blockading the Strait of Hormuz to make money. At the start of the war, they stated clearly that their objective was to push oil prices to $200 per barrel, and with Trump's blockade, it had even risen faster. Today it's at $126. So for the Iranians, Trump is actually doing their job for them: pushing oil prices to unbearable figures.

Inosky:
Trump will not remove the blockade till Iranian economy is destroyed totally, that's if they don't want to comply. Maybe the people there will start fighting their government to comply due to intense suffering and poverty.

I am not saying they are a world power as it is. They are not even the strongest country in the Middle East as it is. But if for some reason, this current Iranian regime manages to survive this war, even if it's through a negotiated settlement, then they may well be on track. First of all, their newfound ability to disrupt the flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz effectively means they can control 20% of the world's oil flow. That is not small; the US is at 21%.

Additionally, if they somehow survive, then there is no doubt that obtaining a nuclear weapon will be their next big objective. They have the money, technical know-how, and political will to develop one. I am not saying it will happen, but if it happens, a nuclear Iran with control of the flow of 20% of the world's energy is by all intent and purposes a world power.

Julius1995:
Relax dude. That is not how country just emerge as world power. Country dont emerge as world power by using propaganda tools. Oh! I forget, the propaganda tools like Facebook was invented by a Jew (Mark Zuckerberg), in a country (U.S.A). You need money, systems, technology, education and financial system, real weaponry (nuclear weapon is important), to emerge as world power. This thing is a simple truth, but I'm sure you people is not looking for simple truth.

And it beats my imagination even more that there are people that think Iran will surrender to the US. At this very moment, I am watching the congressional review of the US Congress on the US military budget live. Pete Hegseth has been a show of shame; General Dan Caine has been very professional. It is increasingly clear that there is no off-ramp for the US here, and I am incredibly amazed at how much the US Congress acknowledges this, but someone sitting in the comfort of his parlor in Abakaliki thinks otherwise.

Mumuismumu:
Senseless talk!! It beats my imagination to believe that people still type senselessly.

If the US is not careful, Iran will emerge from this war a world power.
The leverage Iran has over the entire world is not moi-moi, o. Just imagine fuel went from N790 to N1300 in less than 2 months. Even though Iran's military is no match for the US and Israel, they find themselves in a strategic position that has forced the US and Israel to exercise a level of restraint we have never seen from them before. The US almost never does a cease-fire. If they commit to a war, they usually see it through even if it takes several years. But with Iran the stakes are too high; that's why they negotiated a ceasefire and even extended it when Iran refused to capitulate.

Imagine if Ukraine had similar leverage over the global economy; the world would not have sat back and allowed Russia to pound them like this. But because the war does not affect anybody outside of Ukraine, everybody is just sympathizing with Ukraine from a distance. Now with Iran, the story is very different; everybody is feeling it.

There is simply no easy way out for Trump here; if you continue negotiating, Iran continues to play hardball. If you continue the blockade, oil prices and global inflation keep rising. If you agree to Iran's ceasefire term, America becomes humiliated. If you send in ground troops, many American soldiers will be lost. If you bomb their power plants and bridges, they will bomb the bridges and power plants of countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Kuwait that have been paying you billions for protection. If you withdraw, they will become emboldened and continue with whatever they are doing. Trump must chew one of these bitter pills.
I guess extending the ceasefire is a less bitter pill.