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Victory for Iran was Never about winning militarily; it was about surviving the onslaught of two Nuclear armed state and they did. Plus, they are now getting sanction reliefs, 300 billion dollars, stopping Israels expansion into Lebanon, and a newfound control over the Strait of Hormuz; that is a strategic victory.

I heard someone say Cubans are now begging Trump to come and attack them and give them 300 billion dollars too.

Helinuse:
That is to say: strength lies only in your head.
You need to face reality.

If they were really genocidal, they have nukes, Iran wouldn't only lose their Supleme leader the first day, it would have lost the whole country.



But I appreciate the fact that you said "...holding out long enough for them to leave you alone."
You didn't wallow in self-deceit the same way your folks do when they claim that Iran was victorious.
So, I appreciate your sincerity.

To quote Hegseth, a deal was made from "a position of strength", he didn't clarify who was stronger

For 300 billion dollars, sanction relief, saving Lebanon, and a newfound control over the strait of Hormuz, it is worth every gram of enriched Uranium in Iran's possession. Am sure if the US had asked nicely before the war in exchange for all these Iran would have gladly accepted.

Deepthoughts:
which deal after giving up completely on their nuclear pursuit?, which was the singular most important n strategic objective of the war by USA/ISRAEL?

Does it matter if they intend to use it or not, the fact of the matter is Israel and US are nuclear powers and Iran fought back against them anyway.

UzorIyke:
These are two nuclear powers that have no intention of using their nukes, if its the other way round, by now Israel have been wipe out.
So nothing much happened.

Strength is facing the most powerful military in the history of the world and the most genocidal state in modern times and standing your ground, fighting back and holding out long enough for them to leave you alone. There are very few countries in the world today that can achieve that feat, and Iran is one of them. The sooner you swallow this reality the better for you .

Helinuse:
Strength by losing almost everything and surviving?
Is that strength?

Does that mean the Taliban are stronger than them, too?

Oya go and debit the 300 billion dollars Iran is getting from the deal

proxillin:
Was it a nuclear war?

Was Israel allowed to use nuclear bomb?

[/b]Debit where debit due.[b]

No one can win a terrorist organization.

Hamas are still in Gaza as we speak

Keep waiting for another serious president; that's how Netanyahu waited for 40 years only to be thrown under the bus.

Bittersweetnig:
I blame Trump in all of these, small thing to ending the job, he back track allowing kids of terrorism to dey jubilating, its a matter of time, another US Isreal president will come back and do another serious job to finish the job

Credit where credit is due abeg. Iran just came up against two nuclear powers and displayed strength to the entire world; Now they are getting a deal that even Khamenei would not have dreamed of when the war started.

It is bigots like you that will not make it work. As a Delta person why should I bat an eyelid if an Efik man born here, was raised here probably has a family here is granted an indigene certificate by the state.

Parachoko:
People like you wey no like to dey face reality dey always make me laugh

Even in the South East, a Yoruba who speak Igbo as his first language, eat and dress like Yoruba won't still b seen as an Indigene of Igbo land.

Even if the Supreme Court and Appeal Court support this judgement, no LG will give non indigenes certificate of indigenes

Nigeria is one country and it is people with your kind of mindset that impede our potential to be a truly cohesive country.

Dotherightthing:
It doesn't matter whether you can speak Yoruba or not

You can't be one of us.

You can't be an indigene.

That is what am saying. It doesn't have to be like that. People should be able to get the indigene certificate of the states they were born and raised, that will promote the idea of one Nigeria more than anything.

onuman:
An Igbo born in the southwest and speaks Yoruba as first language will always go to his or her local government area in the southeast to obtain certificate of indegeneship to acquire Nigerian passport. Never certificate from where he or she was born in the southwest.

All major languages are already being taught in schools. That is not the problem. Children who are born in a particular state, raised there and go to school there grow up with the understanding of the ideologies of that particular state. A lot of Igbos who grow up in the Southwest speak Yoruba as their first language; eat and dress like Yoruba. Why is it a problem for them to identify as indigenes of those states in their official documents?

AfDapone:
Until all major languages are taught in all schools to kids so by the time they grow up your ideology will then then make sense. By that time, anyone that goes to any part of the country will find it easy to integrate as least.

Until then, your ideology remains a wish.

How will it backfire. It is going to reduce tribalism and all these tacit hostilities that exist today.

Readinglamp:
It will backfire. Fight go increase pass the one wen we dey see already.

All states in Nigeria should adopt assimilation policies if you've lived there long enough or were born and raised there, that is what will make us truly one Nigeria. I would really love a situation where an Igbo man can become an Indigene of Kano and vice versa. That is when Nigeria will become a movement and not a bunch of regional factions forcing coexistence.

A war with Iran is simply not sustainable; which is why all former US presidents avoided it. One thing is for sure; the US is not going to be attacking Iran again anytime soon, it's just not worth it for the US. If Israel wants to do it, they will have to find a way to do it on their own.

This is exactly why I don't particularly take people who are always insulting the government seriously; because the problem with Nigeria i have come to realize is Nigerians.

OnionBandit:
If Transport fare slash drastically in same manner, make I bend.

Nigeria is a country that urgently needs everything that can make humans behave like humans.

What is now the purpose of this stupid war only to end up with a similar deal that Obama already signed.

So what did the US now achieve in this stupid war.

So many people like to attack this man for reasons that are beyond me. All I see is a man who made the most of the opportunities and advantages life presented him in a way that many of us would not.

I've seen dumb things on the internet before but certainly nothing as grand as this . What imbecility it is to believe that there is a Fu**i*g god somewhere that gifted a bunch of white Europeans a piece of land somewhere in the middle east is the height of insanity. the bible is a bunch of lies conjured by greek royalties to control their people and the fact that a human being in the 21st century uses it to justify aggressive behaviors towards other is troubling

TOPMAN4LIFE:
The problem with people like you is that, you don't Google or make your findings from the internet but relies on hearsays.
If you search the internet, you will see that USA didn't help Israel militarily and financially during the Israel war of independence in 1948 where Israel overcame some Arab countries that came to fight Israel.
Israel has been existing on the land where they are now from the beginning of the earth.
Jesus Christ who was born as a Jew lived and operated in many towns and villages that are still present in Israel today.
It was about 600years after Jesus Christ left this world that Mohammed was born.
And Jesus Christ was a Jew who was born in Bethlehem that's occupied by Palestine today,
The home town of Jesus Christ is Nazareth and the town is still in Israel till today.
As written in the Bible, Jesus Christ moved across many towns and villages that are still present in where Israel is till today.
Towns and villages like Nazareth, Capernaum, Jerusalem, Cana, Bethany, Bethlehem, Jericho, tyre and Sidon in present day Lebanon.
The fight between Israel and Egypt started from Bible time until Egypt finally succumbed after Israel dealt with Egypt and signed peace agreement with Israel in 1970s
Jews own the land, the Arab came to meet them there.
It's the nature of arabs and Islam to go around and take over other people land through jihad where they will kill owner of the land and take over their land.
The jihadists diɗ it in many northern Nigeria towns including Ilorin Kwara State,
And the jihadists are still doing it in middle belt part of Nigeria like Benue State, Taraba state, plateau State, southern Kaduna etc where they will kill owner of the land and claim the land.
But Israel doesn't want such things to continue again, they must collect back all their lands the Arab Muslim have taken over

If Israel could take on Iran on their own they would have done it 40 years ago; Netanyahu said so himself and here you are after swallowing eba and egusi capping dust.

mikeapollo:
Trump is interested in what happens in Iran because it can affect the price of crude oil which would affect the US economy and Trump's political fortunes and that of hi party. Tha is the main reason Trumps wants to manage how the Iran war progresses. It is not because Israel cannot take Iran on.
If not for Trump, Israel could have bombed and destroyed all the bridges, power and energy installations in Iran long time before now, but that would make price of crude oil to jump to USD200 per barrel and Trump does not want that.

Before nko? They should not agree to cease fire now, you think Iran is the same as Gaza and Lebanon that they can bomb with impunity.

Dotherightthing:
They didn't need permission to start the war. It was a preemptive war.

But Trump FORCED them to accept the ceasefire.

When Israel is fighting weak countries like Lebanon and Gaza they don't need permission from Trump, but when it comes to Iran then all of a sudden, it is Trumps permission they are waiting for . The fear of Iran is the beginning of wisdom

Dotherightthing:
Trump FORCED Israel to end that war just as he is currently doing

Israel was ready to go all the way

Israel has been WINNING against Iran

You people don't know what you are talking about. You think you know better than Netanyahu . There was never a time in its history when the US didn't support Israel financially and militarily. Without the US there is no Israel. Israel is a desert with no natural resources of its own. It is funded by the US.

TOPMAN4LIFE:
Israel can win war against Iran all alone.
The first war of independence where Israel fought and won many Arab countries, the USA diɗ not support in any way.
It was when the USA saw the capability of Israel that the USA allows Israel as ally.
Even iran too doesn't fight alone, Iran gets intelligence and weapons from China and Russia.

And you think Iran will just fold it arms and allow Israel to destroy 80% of its country . Israel has more intelligence on Iran than any of us and they recognize that Iran is the biggest threat to their national security; yet the exercise enormous restraint when it comes to Iran as bad as they want its destruction because they also recognize that Iran has enough capabilities to inflict significant damage to them beyond what they can tolerate like with Hezbollah or Hamas.

mayor1814:
That is d issue. Israel will not wait for Iran to launch all those 50 ballistic missiles u talked about. Israel will already destroy most parts of Iran with his own airstrikes and missiles that will 80 per cent cripple Iran mercilessly.

There is no world where Israe will defeat Iran in a prolonged conflict without the US . Israel is a tiny country, if just 50 ballistic missiles find their way into a city it will wreck untold havoc. Iran will suffer heavy losses too no doubt, but their size and population mean they will absorb 10 times more strikes than Israel can absorb, Israel cannot afford that and that is why they have avoided direct confrontation with Iran for 40 years because all former US presidents refused to join them; Netanyahu said this on the first day of the war.

ElevationD:
Sorry boy, you do not have an understanding of the delay in attacking Iran.

You must know that the state of Israel has a long standing iron clad mutual defence pact with the USA. That defense pact, much as it favors the Israelis, it also favors the Americans.

The Middle East is a volatile area, with many contending interests and powers.

The Israelis have been very reluctant, not because they cannot attack and destroy Iran, but because the know that a wrongly calculated move would jeopardize American interests in the region. Their mutual defence pact assures a combined response in the event of an attack against any of them.

Now, will Iran defeat Israel in a war? The answer is a clear NO. First Iran has the advantage of geographical landmass and soldiers. That advantage ends there. Their ballistic and drone missiles cannot save them from a single Israeli attack, which in a twinkle of an eye will wipe out the entire nation of Iran. The Israelis possess the nuclear weapon. They will not use it as they know that no man will be alive the day after to narrate the story. It is a deterrent. However, if there’s a threat to the existence of the nation, the Israelis will not hesitate to use it as a last resort.

Why do you think the US is seeking a deal with Iran? It's because they have realized there is no victory to be won here. If there was a military solution to Iran, do you think Trump would not have used it in the first week of the war and go home claiming victory that has never been seen before like he did in Venezuela.

Israel cannot win a war against Iran without the help and backing of the US and if you cannot see that you have not been paying attention to the war at all.

TOPMAN4LIFE:
It's because the USA has been seeking for a deal from Iran.
Trump can't be compared with Netanyahu when it comes to war.
Trump should just step aside and allow the two countries to fight it out,
If Israel doesn't cut the head of snake which is Iran, Israel will not live in peace.
Iran has been sponsoring many terrorists groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis etc against Israel.

See what you are saying; they killed hamas leader in Iran is that the same as attacking Iran. The only time Israel actually attacked Iran was in june last year during the 12 day war and that war ended with US intervention. You don't need to be a genius to figure out that Israel cannot win a war against Iran without the US and Netanyahu himself has admitted as much on several occasions.

Dotherightthing:
Iran killed Hamas leader, Ismail Haniyeh, in Iran

This war alone is proof to why all previous US presidents refused to fight Iran. It comes with a heavy price and there is no victory to be won, if you cannot see that you are the one lying to yourself.

decasey:
even you yourself know you are lying.

Which attacks are you talking about apart from the one in June last year, where the US brokered a ceasefire. Are you confusing Iran with Gaza or Lebanon

Dotherightthing:
All the attacks they've been carrying out on Iran since 2023, did they ask for US permission?

Israel is good at assassinations, no doubt about that. But fighting a sustained war against Iran is just not something they can afford and they know it. It is not Trump or US that is holding them back anything, when they want to attack Lebanon and Gaza do they wait for the US?

Dotherightthing:
It's the US/Trump holding Israel back all these years

Israel has been striking Iran some time now without US support or permission

Israel has wiped out virtually all Iranian leaders and nuclear scientists

You must be joking. Without America, Israel will not stand against Iran for long. Bibi himself said it, he had wanted a war with Iran for 40 years but couldn't get an American president that was willing to fight Iran until Trump came along.

Dotherightthing:
Iran just gave Israel the golden opportunity to finish it