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If the Allied forces were afraid of losing fighters in both world wars, we would all be speaking German by now. This is just the brutal reality of war and why it is always better to avoid one unless absolutely necessary. And when you eventually go into the war, you go all in and do everything it takes to win, not all this one leg in one leg out that America is doing. It is the same reason they haven't won a war since.

Israel has lost over 2000 soldiers since October 7, but do you hear them wailing over it? No. Because they have a stronger mentality. They know what it means to win a war, and if a soldier dies, they carry on.

See America now: any military analyst with half a brain knows the only way to defeat Iran is through a combined air campaign and ground assault to topple the IRGC, but because they don't want to lose soldiers, now all their aircraft carriers are over 300 kilometres away from the coast of Iran. How can you win a war with that kind of mindset? You think if Israel had half the power of the US military, they would be thinking twice about going into Iran.

UrVillageChief:
Being “afraid of losing fighters (humans)” actually shows that unlike the Iranians, these ones are not animals who see deaths as mere statistics. It shows a country that values human lives and can go any length to make sure you don’t kill one of theirs and go Scot free. That is exactly the country I wish to be a citizen of. A country that has the radical belief of not leaving no one behind no matter the circumstances.
Did bro actually say I watched too much American movies?🤣 Yes o my bro, I guess the smoking of Ayatollah, Larijani and Sinwar were all “American movies”

You go explain tire. Same US that could not defeat Taliban after 20 years of trying na em una don dey jump up and down say them go defeat Iran in 4 months. Dey play, film just dey start.

Helinuse:


America has carried out regime change in a lot of places bro.
For some, they have spent even decades to remove a regime and still won at the ending.

The regime of Iran was the Supreme Leader.
That is why the Israelis went straight for him.

The war was won 30 seconds into it. Exactly 30 seconds.
What you have now, are a set of dispersed and uncontrolled war lords who are controlling their own factions and determining when to attack ships and at what time. America knows very well that there is no more regime in Nigeria that is why they are doing what they can to preserve the life of those who are bearing the similtude of the regime, so that they can, to an extent, preserve control over what they can salvage from the IRGC terrorist groups. Without that, Iran currently will be an all out Libya or Yemen, but this time around, each warlord with the ability to significantly affect world oil by creating panic with little drones.

The Americans know this, that is why they do everything possible to protect those puppets from Israel. Notice that they have not eliminated ANY important leader, only the NAVAL commander yesterday? In fact, they are protecting all of them from Israel. They know very well that they need someone who is up there, to consistently act like he is giving commands. This keeps the factions in check.

But the whole idea of the IRGC, was built around one man, whom they refer to as their supreme leader. And Israel settled his matter.
Israel's differnece with America now is that Israel insists on installing a totally new leader but with consequnce. The Americans know the consequence. They know that 10% of the Iranians, are active supporters of the IRGC and any new ruler must "settle their question" totally. It will have to be worse than the actions of ISIS on Yazidis. It has to be worse to keep the country safe. And the Americans are not trying to risk that.

Truly Americans are the world police.
The regime is long gone.

Too much American movies have detached you from reality. You want to win wars, but you are afraid of losing fighters. Even Bibi is not this delusional.

There is a reason why the US has not won a single war since world war 2; weak mindset.

UrVillageChief:
See how these Arabian/persians have so dealt with your mentality and sensibility that you now see a country caring so much for its people and soldiers as being abnormal😂
What this country called the US is telling you is that no monetary or material thing on this earth is worth more than one single human life. Why do you even think you’re making sense when we all know that this is a country that is stupendously rich and manufactures its own weapons itself? Why exactly do you expect them to place more importance on fighter jets than humans? Fighter jets that they can easily rebuild and replace😂
This is just to tell you that these people are sane and we understand you aren’t used to this since you are obviously a Nigerian. Here in this part of the world, deaths have turned to mere statistics.

Kiss the truth.

richeeyo:
Stay in your house and hold your thoughts
Let the PENTAGON over see their military affairs
Go and tell your military how to deal with terrorists with rusty Aks
Or better still hold your mouth
Go over see waiting you go chop this noon with your 1Gb data plan

You see this war, it ended on the first day it was launched. The moment regime change did not happen after Khamenei was killed, this war ended in Iran's favor. This is a fact. I know people like you do not have the foresight to see this. But this war will only end in a negotiation, and that negotiation will ultimately favor Iran, whether in 1 year or in 10 years. We already saw this in the MOU.

Helinuse:
No Sir,
Soldiers signed to live and die for their country.
And the soldiers are mourned.

But you see, Iran, it must go down.
It is for the taking.
In 1 year's time, check back. Iran's oil will be pumped by Chevron and sold by Americans to Americans, for Americans.

There is not a single Gulf country that can take on Iran, even in its dreams. The only country in the middle east that can take on Iran is Israel and even then they need the help of the US for Patriots and air defense systems and it will still be a blood bath

ElevationD:
Some of you simplify these issues as if they are football matches.

So you safely and comfortably assume that other Middle East countries with a combined defence budget of over 2 trillion, not including Israel, will just sit and watch Iran burn down their countries? You do not know that they reserve the right to respond?

So you safely think that Saudi Arabia does not possess the weapons to fight back? Or you think that the Iranian leadership does not know the risk of going head to head against the Israelis once again?

Imagine that other Gulf countries combine forces with the USA and Israel. What will happen if they get into an open war with those other countries all bombing Iran?

Even if the US get 10$ drone, it doesn't mean jack squat. Iran can inflict equivalent damage they sustain to the US Gulf allies. Before Iran go down, they will burn the Gulf states. This is just a fact.

Willie2015:
The game is changing, US/Isreal has evolved while Iran is sleeping....

1. US/Isreal can disable Kharg Island and/ or any command centers, Iran strategic assets using air dominance and the sea.
It can be done from a distance, its stupid simple.

2. The relative cheaper drones from Ukraine has changed the economics of this war.
Ukraine is doing 10 million drones per year and Europe has given 1 billion Euro with 90 billion Euro Loan Support
It will stretch to 20 million drones per year with the above deal.

3. The US is also in joint partnership with Ukraine for the same technology...

3. Ukraine drones are far cheaper and effective down Iran drones ...
In fact ,Ukraine has deployed 228 counter-drone specialists to the following specific location
Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates (UAE). Qatar, Kuwait. Jordan.

4. Ukraine’s inexpensive drones can mathematically and logistically outlast the Iranian drones...
When u see Trump praising Zelensky in the public. you should know its serious.

5. When u see the gulf countries inviting Zelensky for partnership deals in security, u should know the end is near.
May God save Iran .... cos the way they are going ..its a dead end...

Money na water is the same reason the US has not won a single war in their history on their own. Even world war 2 it was because it was a combined effort. Very weak mindset.

gassbee:
The US does not joke with the lives of their service men, money na water, shey the money reach the amount wey dem dey send to Isreal for military aid. Both Ukraine n Russia does not have and do not possess such mentality when it comes to saving their seevice men

The US doesn't need to complain for us to know that when you place a higher value on one soldier to a 100-million-dollar war machine, you are just doing a reality TV show to entertain your audience. If you are not ready to lose soldiers in war stay at home.

The gulf state can't do jack squat to Iran. In fact, the only gulf states Iran is sparing now are those that went through backdoor channel to negotiate with them to stop bombing them.

erniok:
Did the US complain to you about those planes? The gilf states are keeping mute for now, when wahala start from them, no complain.

This is where the problem is. You people (including the west) seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Shi'a and by extension Iran society is all about. When it comes to fanaticism, Sunni Muslims dey learn work for where Shiites dey. Why do you think Saudi Arabia is afraid of Iran?

These are people who believe in martyrdom. They celebrate and idolize their people who died in war. These are people who congratulate mothers whose children died in war for winning the lottery of the "hereafter". And somehow you think they are going to capitulate to the US because their supreme leader (who is now in Shi'a "hall of fame" ) and a number of other people were killed. You must be joking.

If the US couldn't defeat the Taliban after 20 years of trying, why in God's name are you be under the impression that they will defeat Iran in 4 months.

Elusive001:
So Iranians are not crying over their dead? Or is it that their lives are of lesser value than that of the US citizens and Israelis? So they are sub-humans.

So even North east with Boko Haram and bandits dey contribute pass people wey dey find country. God abeg o.

The same doctrine is the reason they haven't won a single war since World War 2 (which they joined after the allied forces have done much of the heavy lifting).

Any country that believes one soldier is worth more than a 100-million-dollar war machine is doing a clown show. This is just the brutal reality of war, if you don't want to lose soldiers stay at home.

ruggedtimi:
this "leave no one behind" doctrine by the u.s military started long time ago during the Vietnam war. That is their doctrine, A soldier's life is worth more than a $100m aircraft which the u.s have 100s more aircraft to replace that burnt aircraft.

This is sad. The children of these soldiers will now grow up fatherless all because Donald Trump decided, you know what, let's pick a fight with Iran, consequences be damned.

At the risk of sounding insensitive, i will tell you that the only people that will cry are the families of US soldiers that will not return home, the sick people on life support that will die when Iran starts bombing power plants of US gulf allies, the civilian casualties and the average people who are just trying to get by with their families when they pay high prices for petrol, gas and fertilizer.

Elusive001:
Consolation cry.

The point is, if you go into a war with the mentality of not willing to take losses, to the point where you can sacrifice 100-million-dollar planes and helicopter to rescue just one pilot, then you are not serious.

You are fighting a country that believe in martyrdom and are not afraid to lose 1 million people and you are here jumping up and down because one pilot was downed. How do you win a war with that kind of mindset.

You think if Ukraine were to down a Russian pilot, Putin will sacrifice 100 million dollar planes to rescue him? Na lie o, you are on own. They will move on and use those planes to continue fighting until they win.

ruggedtimi:
what point are you trying to state here?

Lol! anytime I see this kind of news i just laugh. You see this war of attrition, is exactly the kind of war that plays in Iran's favor. They will drag the US through 5 miles of mud in this kind of war. Iran will burn the entire US gulf allies before they go down. This is a fact.

You see that Kharg Island Trump is ranting about, he will not know loss until he makes the mistake of sending ground troops.

When I even understood the US was not serious was when they burned 100-million-dollar aircrafts to rescue a downed pilot in Iran. So you wan follow pig fight but you dey fear to stain you white cloth. You never ready!

All we can say is Thank you to our troops. The risks they take for this country is an inspiration to us all.

The mistake you people keep making is thinking Iranians are stupid. Now why in God's name will they do that?

Elioandrew:
they should go to US soil and try it and see if they all won’t be wiped off the face of this earth

You peoples first mistake is that you think Iran is stupid and irrational. You think they don't realize they are facing the most powerful military ever assembled in human history. You think the Iranians don't know that the US can flatten Tehran in one afternoon?

The Iranians have long realized this, which is why they prepared for this war differently. And the logic is very simple; make a war with Iran very painful and expensive for the US. They invested heavily in ballistic missiles and cheap drones which can target every US ally in the gulf and allow them to close the strait of Hormuz at a moment's notice.

Now those gulf countries are indispensable to the US because they are the foundation of the petrodollar system. This is what the Iranians are counting on; if they hurt the gulf allies and the flow of 20% of the world's oil they can effectively make up for what they lack in military deterrence with economic leverage. That is what has been keeping them alive and they know it.

So, if you think they will attack the US mainland or assassinate Donald Trump you are dreaming because that is an irrational thing and as we have seen so far the Iranians are far from irrational.

UrVillageChief:
Thank you for at least, not being a delulu like the rest of you😂 At least, you admitted to the fact that they are some ragtag militia and not even a regional power and that the republic of Iran would be erased off the face of the earth if such ever happened😂
The simple answer to that question is that they simply don’t have the capability to start with. You are hinting at the consequences of such an act but no, I’m telling you for free that Iran simply doesn’t have the capability to even think about such😂
If it’s about the consequences, why can’t Iran at least, take out even if it’s one single US or Israeli General or will the death of an ordinary General also lead to nuclear Armageddon?😂
Since the start of the war, not even one single Iranian bomb has been heard in the US mainland. Pesin wey no fit shoot ordinary ship wey dey water wan kill the President of the world most powerful country😂
What are the Iranians scared of? Why can’t they sink those ships and vessels that are stationed in their backyard? I guess nobody wants to become Japan 2.0😂
“You don’t attack our ships” no be love song !

Why in God's name would Iran attack Israel. A full-scale return to war is not in Iran's best interest. The most rational thing for them right now is this tit for tat strikes they are doing and only escalate when their enemies escalate. Moreover, they are not the ones that started the war; so, if Israel wants a return to full scale war, the onus is on them to launch the first strike, then we will know if it is flower bouquets IRGC will send them in return.

So if the US could not defeat the Taliban after 20 years in Afghanistan, what makes you think they could possibly "install another Khomeini" in Iran that clearly has a much more superior military than the Taliban ever were, with comprehensive ballistic missiles and drone programs. They also have over 400 kg of 60% enriched Uranium that can be quickly enriched enough to make "dirty nuclear bombs". Don't forget their control over the strait of hormuz which is even a more pressing matter as things stand.

P1PrinceKT:
That is what they are shifting the war to.
Las las America will never win this war from Air. Unless if they can enter on ground.
That will be another Afghanistan and it will not take them weeks or months as they claim, may be years before they at the end install another Khomeini.

Because they are not a nuclear superpower. Killing Trump will bring them too much heat than they can handle The rational response here is this tit for tat strikes they are doing. Very simple strategy; this way they can string this along and drag the US through 5 miles of mud from now till December.

UrVillageChief:
Are you sure about this?
Why haven’t they responded to the vaporization of Ali Khameini in kind?😂😂
Bombing and killing Trump or Netanyahu, his wife and granddaughter in the White House/Balfour would be the most suitable response in kind o😂

Nowadays if I hear say US attack Iran, e no dey move me, because Iran na sure odd to respond in kind. Their strategy is very simple; match madness for madness .

The whole war now is about Strait of Hormuz, nobody dey even talk about Nuclear weapon or Ballistic missile programs again

Lol! This is really funny seriously. Am just laughing at all those people that politicized the death of innocent Christians to score cheap political points. They championed the agenda that Christians were the only victims in Nigeria thinking that when the US wanted to punish Nigeria it will affect only the part of the country they did not like.

The first thing the US did was to ban Nigerians (as in Nigerians of all faith) from entering their country, they even shut down their embassy at some point. Now they are withholding all aid to Nigeria (as in, to Nigerians of all faith). The message is loud and clear, and it reads along these lines "DEAR NIGERIAN'S YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN"

You see yourself; you got triggered when i mentioned you to be a "collateral damage" but you were perfectly fine calling the dead civilians in Gaza collateral damage forgetting they are also humans like you and I

Beautifulday:
If I were a bad person too, I would have said. May you and your family be collateral damage this year, but no. I do not wish you that.

What you don't know, you take your mouth out of it

If i were a bad person now, i would i have said may you and your family be collateral damage in another man's war, but no, i do not wish you that at all because i have a conscience that helps me empathize with people and see things from their perspective as much as I can. So instead i wish you a healthy long life in the hope that your conscience prevails

Beautifulday:
You never heard of collateral damage abi?

Lol! As if it was Iran that first attacked Israel. A full-scale return to war is not in Iran's best interest; this tit for tat strikes is their rational play here, only escalate when your enemy escalate. If Israel wants war, the onus is on them to launch the first strike, then we will know if the IRGC will send them flower bouquet or not

mikeapollo:
Don't mind them and their propaganda!
I am just praying that Iran should attack Israel. Let me check something.
Those malfunctioning brains must be reset by Netanyahu and IDF!

What is good for the goose is good for Uganda, abi na how una take talk am self

These gulf countries must be kicking themselves right now, wondering why they even relied on the US for security cover. After paying trillions and trillions of dollars, as soon as war came, US soldiers abandoned their military bases and lodged in hotels . Those same bases are now the reason they are a magnet for Iranian missiles and drones. They should have just stayed neutral and be chilling right now, like Oman.

How the mighty have fallen, Britain used to be at center stage of world events; now it is just another Island country issuing "condemnations" and "bans" from a distance. 400 years of colonialism and imperialism down the drain.

Trump don jam problem wey pass am . This is where the phrase "If you cannot beat your enemy, join them" comes from. As e no fit open the Strait by force, e kuku join Iran block am make them chop tolls together. Nobody dey even talk about nuclear weapon and ballistic missile program again