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Make i go sleep this one too much for my heart

fourboys:
Viva Villareal

viva kill u Der

Omo i no dey like watch penalties

Angelfrost:
Hehehehehehehe... Spain got this one!

Villarreal must enter UCL!

Sharrap

Can we have a week without Garba comments on Nairaland.com?
The world will be a happy place oooo

Please how much do it cost to fix a laptop that's not booting past the welcome logo, i hear it hard drive issue?

08137701598 interested

Aiit the presidency has, spoken, I'm waiting for the president to come out and speak first

I got a faulty laptop for sale

Dell latitude 3580 Intel corei3

Fault: to fix the hard drive.

Charger included also

Mind ur business ooooo

Only them know how e dey do dem

Hmm... I see free medical check up in all this, #50k as bonus , where's the address ooo

Fedrick100:
Phone that cannot multi task

I’m not a fan of all this Android

try dey sleep well, u just dey misyan anyhow

BMC how far na , una work don dey hard una?

Racoon:
Aketi and Samuel Ortom have been courageously fearless but thank providence they did so early because these supporters of these marauders and killers from Futa Jallon Plateau careless if every other Nigeria perish.

good one

Abi turkey president don ask buhari to join dem fight Israel, make dem carry hisbah go there make Israel use dem count scores, mumu pple dey hia dey scatter drink... Rubbish

Empiree:
You see, the way to know someone knows what he's talking about is by bringing evidence to the table but you didn't do that. Anyways I will manage this your post for now.

We believe in all prophets even if they are prophets sent to India, china etc. But we use QUR'AN as criterion to determine their true message better their people possibly misconstrued their message after them. So based on your statement, it is in conflict with other verses of the bible and Quran. This shows the statement is false.

The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them. Ezekiel 18:20


And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And if a heavily laden soul calls [another] to [carry some of] its load, nothing of it will be carried, even if he should be a close relative. You can only warn those who fear their Lord unseen and have established prayer. And whoever purifies himself only purifies himself for [the benefit of] his soul. And to God is the [final] destination’ (Surah 35:18)


Those two verse from Quran and Bible refuted your claim in Isiah.



well this is very simple. It is not debatable at all. If according to Bible, second and or third party must give spiritual birth to you, that's Bible perceptive. This is not problem for Muslims. My only concern was why would Jesus baptized to in order to receive "holy spirit"?. Does that mean Jesus spiritual status faded before?

well the Bible shared that the Jesus came to do the will of the father, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the same whom you refer to as Muslim tho, so Jesus been baptized was only in accordance to the earlier affirmation tho

Isaiah the Muslim prophet made comments about Jesus/Emmanuel tho of which he talked him taking upon him the sins of his people, is it the same Isaiah the prophet you refer to?

Jesus who is a Muslim taught about the holy spirit tho, does this differ from you believe?

NuclearReactor:
All of you that supported Leicester today because of iheanacho and ndidi should use that same energy to support Villarreal because of Samuel Chukwueze, to win Europa League against United

Sharrap

Osebanjo:
Empiree is confused. Those he claims to have practised islam have their direct descendants there today practising their fore-fathers religion which is never islam. How they came about their story is what one won't understand.

there seem to be a disconnect Sha cos there seems to difference, religion Sha

Empiree:
my previous post was step 1 literally. It is step by step. First step is you study Islam by seeking knowledge bcus you must know who you worship before you worship Him.

"Know Me before you worship Me" - Hadith Qudsi

After you are convinced, you go to muslims and openly declare your faith. This is testimony of faith I told you earlier. After this there is ghusl (spiritual birth) you take privately. You don't need anyone bathing you. Just learn from Muslims how to do it. It is very simple. Shower(clean water) without soap. That's all. There are no ceremonies. But this spiritual birth is optional, desirable or recommended. Not compulsory at all.



Absolutely. Muslims must believe in all prophets whether Jewish prophets or not regardless of tribes or nationalities. Quran teaches us that God sent prophets and messangers to every nation with One message .


"And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship Allah (Alone), and avoid (or keep away from) Taghut (all false deities, etc. i.e. do not worship Taghut besides Allah)." Then of them were some whom Allah guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified. So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth)." Q16:36



He (Allah) has ordained for you the same religion (Islam) which He ordained for Nuh (Noah), and that which We have inspired in you (O Muhammad SAW), and that which We ordained for Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses?) and 'Iesa (Jesus) saying you should establish religion (i.e. to do what it orders you to do practically), and make no divisions in it (religion) (i.e. various sects in religion). To those who worship other things than Allah, hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. Allah chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him). Q43:13



if am right, the only known baptistism I read or know of was Jesus(p). All human beings are naturally born Muslims. So there is no need to take any spiritual birth unless they have been practicing religions other than Islam and decides to revert to Islam. Jesus was Muslim from birth till death. So Christians need to tell us what's the reason for John the Baptist for Jesus baptistism?. According to christian literature, "Jesus was baptized in order to ceremonially cleanse himself before being filled with the Holy Spirit. According to Old Testament law, the Jewish high priest was the only man authorized by God to enter the Holy of Holies, the most sacred room in the temple where God's Spirit dwelled."

As Muslim I have problem with this statement above because it degraded Jesus. According to QUR'AN, Jesus was accompanied with God's Divine spirit. Why would he need to be cleansed again to receive "holy spirit". This means that Jesus lost his spiritual status at some point and later had to be cleansed in order to be upright. This is fabricated story about him.


Yes, all prophets and messagers practiced Islam. Several evidences abound in the QUR'AN.


Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered. 2:136


And whoever desires other than Islām as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. Q3:85



Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists. Q3:67




Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islām. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them - out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah, then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account. Q3:19



O people of the Scripture! Don’t exceed the limits in your religion. Don’t say of Allah but the truth only. The Messiah Jesus, son of Mary (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word “Be” which He conveyed to Mary and a soul from Him (was created by Him in her womb). So believe in Allah and His Messengers, you don’t say: “3 (trinity)!” Give up, it is better for you. Only Allah is one worthy of worship. Glory is to Him far above that He should have a son. To Him belongs what is in the heavens and what is in the earth. Allah is All-Sufficient as a Guardian. Q4:171

nice, if you believe John the Baptist and claim he also was Muslim, is it safe to say he did preach about Jesus, the one who is to bear the sins of the world as Isaiah another Muslim prophecies about? and already had a following who were also baptized as they accepted to serve the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob submitting themselves to his will?
It seems a lil contradictory to undertake the spiritual bath on your own, cos if you believe John the Baptist just like the others did they had their spiritual bath by the servant of God, Jesus recognized so too tho if i may say, and when Jesus started his movement he commissioned his assistants to baptize anyone who decides to have faith in God tho, I'm kinda citing a pattern tho, guess all Muslims should be doing so if they believe the ancients tho

thinkmoney:
My brother, that guy Tyson is a fighter oh. You remember those people in your primary school days that look odd but strong. That guy Tyson takes it whichever way it comes.
Joshua has to be really smart and fearless to win him. My issue with Joshua is that I suspect he has a glass chin, he isnt as rugged as Tyson. You can see this in the way he fought with precaution in his last fight. He look as if he was afraid that Mexican guy doesn't hit him in the head the way he did in their first fight.

it's called the art of boxing,taking punches don't win matches but the punches thrown, AJ is the science of boxing, know this and know peace.

The way AJ go beat this guy ehnn, if e like make e go train with lion join, this guy dey fear AJ die, next thing now na to show us as e dey train with cobra.
AJ go beat this one to depression mode


AJ all the way!!

Empiree:
Thanks for asking. What I told you earlier was stage one. It is a simple step by step. The first step for nonmuslim that wants to be Muslim is to study Islam and understand what he's accepting because God said to prophet muhammad (SAW),

"Know Me before you worship Me" -hadith Qudsi


After you are convinced, you go to muslims and declare your faith in public which was the first one I told you.

After that you take ritual birth in your own privacy. You don't need second party to do that for you. Take shower without soap. But it is only recommended or desirable not obligatory. That's all. There is no ceremony.

The only obligatory ritual for a new convert is to openly declare faith

kendrick9:
children were killed in the Bible when God ordered the killing of women & children so don't be surprised if he's towing the same line...

thanks for your response, so one doesn't need anyone to perform the ritual birth right, do you consider John the Baptist to be a prophet like the ancients like Isaiah?

Will you say they of old didn't really practice Islam since they sort to be baptized by someone whom they thought to be a servant of God officiating in the ordinances required under the covenant to be called God's people?
I'm asking cos from your narrative you cited that the ancients practiced Islam, Abraham and the likes

Empiree:
Baptism is English word. Every religion has their way of baptizing new converts. In Islam, "baptistism" is SHAHADA or testimony of faith in i:e to testify to the Oneness of God, and believe in all His prophets and messangers including Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad and not discriminate them.

Example of baptistism in Islam is:

"I testify that, there is no deities except Allah and I testify that Muhammad is His messanger".


all prophets and messangers of God were Muslims. None of them practiced any religion other than Islam. We do not dispute with the Jews about Abraham, Moses, Jacob etc as they fondly proclaimed. You noticed they don't mention Jesus anytime they recited the phrase right?. That is because they discriminate God's prophets and messangers which Islam warns us against (ref ch. 2 v 285)

We also detest Jews and Christians historical lies about these prophets and messangers of God. For instance they lied about and blasphemed against Jacob. Bible says Jacob was drunk and slept with his daughters Genesis 19:30-38


Bible also said Jacob fought and defeated God(may God protect me from such outrageous creed). Gen. 32:22-32

But in the Quran, Islam honors all the prophets and messangers of God as righteous and obedient people who submit to God's Will. As for son of God taking sin of the world, this kind of narrative is false. No humans take over another man's sin. Everyone to his own.

Our believe in Islam is, we believe in God. We believe in Angels. We believe in His Books. We believe in his messangers. We believe in what has been revealed to us (Quran). We believe in what was revealed to Abraham, Ismail (Ishmael), Isiak(Isaac), Jacob, and their offsprings. We believe in what was revealed to Moses (Tawra) and Jesus(Injeel not Bible) and believe in other prophets from their Lord and we submit to Allāh (God) in Islam. Quran 3:84. That's, we do not say 'we believe in xyz prophets and reject xyz prophets like Jews and Christians do. Anyone who rejects any of the prophet of God is not Muslim. Such person becomes disbeliever.

Just so you know, those people lied to ignorant people to deceive them and take them away from the truth that Islam brought. If they truly believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, then they should be Muslim instead of using those prophet names to deceive the masses.

aiit, so as a form of commitment they were baptized right?
Please if the ancients were baptized even before the advent of the christ and you say they were Muslims, is it safe to say modern Islam isn't following the ancients by doing it via immersing themselves in water?

Share your thoughts please

crimo:
What does Christianity have to do with this. Innocent people are being killed

but when the Hamas attacked innocent Israelis nko?

morinto:
You are wrong. I stand with peace between the two people which all christain should do.

aiit, I'm Christian like you but i differ, i owe my family the protection they deserve and any one who poses a threat will be met with the same treatment as they Accord me and my family tho.

Israel should defend its citizens and that can't be compromised.

Empiree:
Sulaimon was Muslim not Judaism. All prophets were Muslims. Edifice built by Daud and Sulaimon was Masjid (mosque). Linguistics differences was the reason it is called "Temple". Prove to us that David and Solomon practiced Judaism?. They might be Jewish by tribe not religion. Issues around Jerusalem is religious one

David and Solomon were Muslims


Evidences they were Muslims. Quote yours that shows they were christians or Jews. Let me start with Abraham

Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists. Q3:67



[Sulaiman said], “And we were given knowledge before her, and we have been Muslims [in submission to Allah]. And that which she was worshipping other than Allah had averted her [from submission to Him]. Indeed, she was from a disbelieving people.” (Al Qur’an 27:42- 27:43)



This is mentioned in the Qur'an (42:13):


"The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - the which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein:..."




So, because of the transgression of those who became Jews, We prohibited for them good things which were made lawful for them earlier and for their preventing (people), very often, from the way of Allah,......Surely, We have revealed to you as We have revealed to NūH and to the prophets after him; and We have revealed to Ibrāhīm, Ismā‘īl, IsHāq, Ya‘qūb and their children, and to ‘Īsā, Ayyūb, Yūnus, Hārūn and Sulaimān, and We have given Zabūr to Dawūd . (We have sent) some Messengers We have already told you about, and some other Messengers We did not tell you about, and Allah has spoken to Mūsā verbally Q4:160-165

so why aren't Muslims doing baptism, John did?
Cos they claim to worship the God Abraham Isaac and Jacob, and was foretold that the son of God will take upon him the sins of the world, at least those were prophecies of the prophets you cited were Muslims tho?
Please share your thought

slachtoffers:
Another terrorist sighted.

Oga no be to dey write long story buy ticket go join Hamas Israel go use you count scores.

i don burst laff

dayoyak:
*BREAKING NEWS*
Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu just made the following speech in front of the Knesset:
“To Ismail Haniya, and the leaders and operatives of Hamas:
We, the people of Israel, owe you a huge debt of gratitude. You have succeeded where we have failed. Because never before, in the history of the modern State of Israel, has the Jewish people been so united, like one person with one heart. Everyone in Israel, from Left to Right, secular and religious, is united in the knowledge that there is no accommodating an enemy that is sworn to the genocide of our people.
And now, as you continue to launch deadly missiles indiscriminately, intended to maim and murder as many civilians as possible, while you take cowardly refuge behind your own civilians - you continue to inspire us to hold strongly onto our unity. Whatever disputes we Jews may have with each other, we now know that we have one common goal: we will defeat you.
But we are offering you now one last chance. Within 24 hours, all rocket fire - and I mean all rocket fire - will cease. Completely. Forever.
I give you formal notice that our tanks are massed at the Gaza border, with artillery and air support at the ready. We have already dropped leaflets over the northern parts of the Gaza strip, warning civilians of our impending arrival, and that they should evacuate southward, forthwith.
If you fail to meet our ultimatum, we are coming in, and, with God's help, this time we will not leave. Every centimeter of land that we conquer will be annexed to Israel, so that there will *never* be another attack launched at our civilians from there.
Even so, we will continue to keep the door open to allow you to surrender gracefully. The moment you announce that you are laying down arms, we will halt our advance, and there we will draw our new borders.
If you continue to attack our citizens, we will continue to roll southwards, driving you out of territory that you will never again contaminate with your evil presence.
It pains me deeply that your civilians will be made homeless. But we did not choose this war; you did. And if our choice is between allowing our citizens to be targeted mercilessly by your genocidal savagery, versus turning your civilians into refugees, I regret that we must choose the latter.
If only you loved your people as much as you hate ours, this war would never have happened.

> To the rest of the world: Israel is tired of your ceaseless chidings that we should "show restraint". When you have your entire population under constant missile fire from an implacable enemy whose stated goal is the murder of every man, woman and child in your land, then you may come and talk to us about "restraint". Until then, we respectfully suggest that you keep your double standards to yourselves. This time, Hamas has gone too far, and we will do whatever we have to in order to protect our population.

> Hamas, once again, I thank you for bringing our people together with such clarity of mind and unity of purpose. The people of Israel do not fear the long road ahead. Am Yisrael Chai.”

deep

Vaughanlanrewaj:
I can authoritatively declare that I have seen this horror film all my life and watching the Late Yasser Arafat, President, PLO, lived and died for this cause.
I still don't understand why it has to be a very holy month of Ramadan and attack on Muslims in their holy site in an unprovoked manner that any sane President of a country will want to embark on. It just doesn't make sense, especially when we are all praying for this pandemic to go.

He is using bomb to kill and scatter people in his opponent camp while he holed up his own people in shelter domes increasing the chances of bringing back new wave of covid-19 affliction again when they should be observing social distance when they just managed to get out of covid-19 affliction. Netanyahu has a poor emotional intelligence and his action in this case does not show him as a wise leader at all and that's why he is leaving office in shame. Isreal will someday get a matured wise leader in the mould of a Nelson Mandela or Anwar Sadat . They will make peace and the citizens will realise that they have been on a siege all their lives. Sincerely, Isreal can't win this war since with leaders like Netanyahu. His nation and citizens are prisoners by choice in their own land and continent.

Hamas should please stop firing missiles into Isreal too. Now at the cost of Isreali lives suddenly, Isreal has realised that Hamas actually has long range missiles m. Isreal should suspend plans to further lose their citizens. So much for the Isreali intelligence that didn't know Hamas has long range missiles.

Everyone should be sensible and toe the path of peace. If it's not him that approved that provocative and senseless attack , Netanyahu must sanction whoever approved the attack by the police on defenceless worshippers while observing a special Islamic night inside the holy site al-Asqra mosque.

aiit, Sha tell hamas not to disturb Israel again

Seun360:
Liverpool's UCL qualification is in their own hands. All they need to do is to win their remaining 3 fixtures and UCL ticket will be in the bag.

let's see how it goes

Seun360:
If Liverpool win their next 3 games, they will automatic qualify for the UCL.

if I tell u say i love u ooo


If
If
If
Effing ifs

Sha Liverpool still dey go europa next season


StillManUtD

But we no try for dis game, make we focus on the final jor

Winning Europa and SC is a must