₦airaland Forum

totorimi:
The difference is very clear. You can tell a learned man from his response to provocation to the actions of a stack illiterate senior brother of a cow cum herdsmen. Something that calls for dialogue they resort to brute force as though this were a military era.

Yet they travel to other countries they see how issues are debated on the floor of the senate until they find a headway but they learn nothing they are dumb and do not want to change. The same style the same antics. SMH for the type of leaders we have in this country.

I wonder why the Nigerian army would enter a state and start killing innocent civilians armless because they r calling for referendum.Where has this atrocity ever happened.

RoyalUc:
So because Asari, out of his hatred for Buhari is speaking against Nigeria in favour of Biafra, you think he really cares about Biafra? Even if he, Tompolo and the people you said came to see Kanu, want Biafra, does that make the Niger Deltan Biafrans?

u seem not to understand him,why dont u read the preceding conversation before making mistake?

drefe2real:
Bro, you are spot. It still baffles me how someone in Aba will trigger a crises that will consume thousands of his brothers up North without batting an eyelid. If Igbo land was flowing with milk and honey, will their Igbo brothers go to the North to look for their daily bread in the first place? How will they want them to survive if they return to the East? They think it is easy to start all over again.

Do u know that Abia state was peaceful before the military came with their show of force? Why dont u condemn the military for their evil in the state.First they started by destroying NUJ Abia Chapter office and all their equipment so as to intimidate the journalists from capturing their atrocities and they went on destroying innocent people.Ask the military not a single person was found with weapon unlike what obtains in the North and West were different groups carry weapons.Pls be proud to condemn evil so that God will protect u and ur families.

Omololu007:
Ebos make una no worry,the federal government has to start from somewhere, and they have start in the south east,and is very easy,just dance to the song called Python song by the Nigerian army, you will have to dance the python dance, if you don't there are very strong consequence... I'm sure people from other regions will learn,as a Yoruba man,I won't wanna dance the python dance

See how hate speeched ur speeches r.If anigbo person starts u will be the one to run and shout hate speech.

Abagworo:
I'm still mad that some intelligent people like you couldn't figure this out from day one. Abagworo was once a campaigner for republic of Igboland on this Nairaland but I stopped it after touts started their Biafra nonsense and attacking Igbo leaders thinking it was way to go. IPOB is not an Igbo agenda but a PDP agenda conceived to destroy Nigeria with Igbos because Jonathan lost. An Igbo agenda will be all inclusive, non-religious and nonpartisan. Notice that IPOB and their radio is all about attacks on APC, Rochas and Buhari and not how to promote Igbo interest.

Oh u r Igbo, then why do u support the killing of innocent people?U know Nnamdi Kanu and his supporters have never been violence , all of a sudden the military came in with its show of force to starting killing people.I condemn Kanu's hate speeches but how many in the North or West v condemn the hate speeches from their people.Just a comment from them leads to killing.Have u ever wonder that with all that Kanu says not a single individual in Igboland even IPOB can lift up hand on someone.I feel concern about ur post but i much more concered on the killing of people who r peaceful going about their businesses. If Nigeria likes peace or wants to solve this Biafra problem, let them allow referendum,with much campaign and actions from the Government a lot of us Igbos will vote against it, and once that is done it means the issue can only come up in 50yrs based on what wa agreed before the referendum. No Igboman will allow u insult him and Igbos dont hide their stand whether they r dying or not.Even if Biafra mature Nnamdi Kanu can not be the president of Nigeria because we v intelligent men and women everywhere.I feel concern, we want peace and we stand for peace and not war but others in nigeria dont like peace they enjoy war.

Jetjacky:
I agree to your proposition

The more u summon courage to condemn all the better for us to make progress and make hate speeches and hatred a thing of the past among ourselves.

Hate speeches argument seem to v surfaced on the front burner of Nigerian politics and social comment by everyone.However there is need to put this dastardly act into historical perspective for use to understand how we started,who started it and why it is necessary to call those involved to order.Hate speeches and hatred were always there among the Europeans before 1945 especially among Britain, France, Germany, Spain and Portugal but for decades the vestiges of hate speeches have been dismantled and European countries r now enjoying their lives and creating unions in economic social political and cultural developments.
In Nigeria hate speeches and abuse were hurled at the Northern delegates by the South West delegates when they refused to accept the proposal for Nigeria to be given independence before 1960.When the Northern delegates got home they retaliated by killing southerners in their areas. In 1964 and 1965, hate speeches were common in politics an were used by Akintola and his cohorts on the to campaign and vote against the UPGA.Then Akintola had formed alliance with NPC to become NNA.All over the country NNA supporters abused UPGA supporters mostly in the South West and North. The products of the hate speeches led to the killings of Igbos in the North before the 1966 coup and then the civil war.
from 1999, Nigeria returned back to democracy.Buhari came up with his hate speeches that led to the killings of hundreds of Nigerians after election including NYSC members serving in the North in 2011. At that time militants from the Niger delta like Asari Dokubo also came up with their hate speeches.Proponent of Sharia in the North as voiced hate speeches at the OBJ govt. During the Jonathan administration, hate speeches became rampant on social media by the Northerners and South west as well as some people who did not like GEJ government.He was called mumu,drunkard etc. those who supported him were hurled with all manners of abusive languages. Boko haram member like Shekua never hide their words laden with hatred on GEJ, his government and those against their agenda. Fast forward to Buhari's government, the hate speeches never ceased but continued with his supporters and those against him. Then Nnamdi Kanu came up with his own as well and the Oba of Lagos.Elder statesmen like Tanko yakasia, Ango Abdullahi, Olusegun obasanjo and many others v never ceased to make hate speeches some even reminds others of how they were massacred by them or by other provoking thought of hatred.
If im to make analysis on this issue, first i condemn hate speeches and hatred in it entirety.Behind every killing there is a hate speech.While some hate speeches never provoked reactions some have provoked reactions like killings, and burning of houses by their supporters. For example 1964 hate speeches, 2011 hate speeches etc.
Today hate speeches r no longer common in Europe except during football marches and culprits are sanctioned heavily.If Nigeria must be a better place we must all condemn hate speeches irrespective of who made it and the manner it was made.
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mazimee:
You argue like a child, is Asari from the Igbo desent?
John Danfulani that came all the way from kadunna is of the Igbo desent?
The others that sent their people from Akwa Ibom are also of the Igbo desent right?

If truly that those so called minorities are not interested why are they sending their people?

Unfortunately people v lost their common sense.They v discovered that hate speeches on Kanu was no longer selling because there r people who made worst hate speeches that cost hundreds of live,now it is oil.She thinks the Niger Delta minorities can be decieved again.Ijaw for Ijaws Igbo for Igbos.

Amarabae:
are you running away?
Answer me

He did nt run away rather u did not get him well.He s asking who r the minorities,is it his indeginous igbos?Then he said why dont u give them the chance for a referendum.My earlier posts v said it severally too. You r interested in oil fine.Same with the North and Britain, but the millions of Igbos in Diaspora and Nigeria do not want u oil.They r not suffering because of your oil.Keep ur oil to urself,conduct a referendum for only Igbos and go with ur oil in one Nigeria.

mazimee:
Who are the minorities? I am talking about my brothers (indigenous Igbos). Why not tell your government to give referendum a chance let's see who the minorities are.

Don't mind her,she s so confused in her write up calling igbos her brothers in language and listing Ijaw,Ibibio etc as minorities.Is Asari not for Ijaw people?Is Ateke Tom and Government not agitating for their people?Did u hear Nnamdi Kanu telling Asari that his people are Biafrans?Did u see Kanu taking his rally to the minorities u mentioned?Is it not in ur presence that ur minorities keep sending emissaries to nnamdi Kanu?Why dont u include John Danfulani of Southern Kaduna in ur minorities, bc they dont v oil?There r oil among the Igbo communities,biafra does not need the funny nigerian composition of different ethnic groups.We want a nation state built on Judaism and Christianity.Funny enough oil has come in and not hate speeches again.U all will fail.If u v confidence in urself meet them at a referendum and not war,Igbo land historical has been built on democracy and on that we stand.

Amarabae:
Goodday all,
I want to start by condemning the ongoing operation python dance that is ongoing in southeast which have injured many and some have been killed,
it is out of place because the lives and properties of Innocent people are at risk,
Buhari should withdraw them!
But my main message is directed at nnamdi kanu and i will make it brief,
it is not the strongest animal that survive in the jungle but the wisest,
a wise man examine the harsh reality around him and adapt to it,
I love my Igbo people deeply and seeing the picture of young and handsome Igbo youths being shot in the name of Ipob by the army do break my heart,
and my first anger is not directed at the Army but NNAMDI KANU!
Let me tell you why!
The key battling point in this agitation is the Biafra Map,
Britain still have a huge stake and investments in the oil of Niger delta and they are ready to defend that interest together with their "allies" in Nigeria,
before ojukwu could learn about this bitter reality, up to 2million Igbos have lost their lives just because of the british interest crude oil in the land of the Southern Minorities,
after the war,have there been any international probing over it?
Oh the UN Kept quiet over it,
Ojukwu would have succeded had it been he made Biafra an Only Igbo affair and leave the minorities alone,
biafra and Gowon would have left him had it been he did that,
Nnamdi Kanu is still holding unto the same ojukwu failed tactics by drawing a map which included the land of the minority tribes where the majority of the crude oil comes from,
do you think that Britain and the North that stopped oukwu will allow him?
I have always insisted that nnamdi kanu leave the southern minorities like ijaws,ogonis,efiks,ibibios,urhobos,itsekiris,isokos etc ALONE and make his agitation a HOMOGENOUS IGBO ONLY AFFAIR!
But as usual, his ipob foot keyboard soldiers launched a missile on me,
these minorities have asked you many times to count them out of Biafra but stubborness and delusion will not allow you people!
Why will the Igbo youths be setting themselves up as sacrifical lambs on the alter of british and northern interest in Niger delta oil?
Is there not oil in my Asa land?
Is there not oil in Egbema,oguta,ogbaru,ukwa?
So why cant nnamdi kanu make this agitation an only Igbo affair and leave the southern minority tribes alone?
It is only a mad man that apply the same tactics and expect a different result,
ojukwu used this tactics in 1967,he failed,
kanu is toying the same tactical path!
And the minorities you are dying for and are being massacred because of british interest in their oil,
are they not the ones hating and insulting Igbos all over social media,
do they appreciate it?
Now war is looming and you are running to UN,trump AND AU facebook page to ask for help,
do you think they give a dime about africans?
Where was AU, UN, america in 1967 when Igbos were massacred?
Or do you think they will choose Igbos over the British?
If war start again, IGBOS will lose again,
thats a bitter fact!
Where is kanu now?
Why is he hiding?
Where went the bss?
Where went Asari dokubo?
Where went the niger delta avengers?
I told ipob that they are dwelling on a false sense of solidarity with the avengers,
they insulted me,
where went the missile built to burn the zoo down?
Just a little military operation and we Igbos look defenceless,
what of when a full war start?
If kanu want to succeed, he should remove the minority tribes from the map and make it a homogenous Igbo affair only but He refused stubbornly, then he should get ready for the british plus Northern forces!
Never again will Igbos be massacered over british interest in south south minorities crude oil!
Never again!

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THANK YOU

You said Ojukwu should v left the minorities alone during the war but he stubborningly refused.Pls what was the composition of South Eastern Nigeria before the war? Where is colonel Effiong from?Put the preceding realities as at then into perspective of the geographical composition and dont do an after math analysis. Biafra is for Igbos speaking ppl and not for other minorities in the South South or Niger Delta.Also If u had wanted to be lucid or cogent you would v ask the Government to conduct referendum for them in Igbo speaking areas or better call for meetings of Igbo leaders for discussion on Biafra.You made ur piece cheap by including minorities as if Igbos r interested in having them in Biafra.Mind u, having a map is one thing and coming to table for discussion is a different thing.

BLSYNG:
Hmm, people and their reasoning. At what point in time was the police station burnt? Before or days after the operation Python Dance. Ask yourself a simple question, what was the situation of things before the deployment of Army? And you are here talking about what ensued from the provocative and needless python dance.
I wonder what you call truth. Was there any breakdown of law before the operation python dance? See you and truth.

Thank u.These are questions begging for answer and which they will never answer till they go down to grave.

omenka:
God bless you richly bow and for the rest of your life, amen.

What do u make of Buhari hates speeches that led to deaths of hundreds of people even educated corpers like u once were?How about Ango Abdullahi,Oba of Lagos,Tanko Yakasia, Obasanjo and others even the ones about the killing of the Igbos in the CIVIL WAR?Why can you be ractional for a second?Has Nnamdi Kanu's IPOB attacked on any hate speeches from him?How come Buhari and his people acted on his hate speeches?Do u know hates speeches were behind the killing in the North, killings that recently took place in the South West between the huasa community and Yoruba people?If the Igbos can not act on Nnamdi Kanu speeches it show that the one that sales gala on the road is more reasonable and sensible than u, bc u acted and killed on buhari's speeches and other speeches from his people.

laudate:
Is it a lie that Sudan fought a war for many years?? How come you didn't even know that fact? You keep repeating the same questions over and over like a toddler. You and your people know how to argue rather blindly. You want to sit back, fold your arms and let govt insert referendum clause into the constitution, without you lifting a finger to follow due process to get it done. Why should the govt do so? Are they the ones who want a new republic? Isn't it your people? Every responsible govt is committed to defending the territorial integrity of its nation.

I keep telling you, that there are political processes to follow to get a referendum. Go and study how South Sudan got its own referendum. Study how other nations got their own, before you come back in here to start recycling half-truths and conjecture, that do not hold any water. You obviously did not even know that Sudan fought a war for several years, before brokering a ceasefire which now led to the drafting of a new constitution, which contains clauses on referendum. That was why you were asking me earlier if referendum was in their constitution!

You also asked: "You said they fought war for yrs and then brokered agreement with a referendum and the UN came in to conduct it.Pls is it how it happened?...... As at the 2005 u mention how come there was no referendum in the Sudanese constitution all the years they v been fighting.Why would Sudanese govt accept it and include it?What really made d Sudanes govt to v a rethink for such inclusion?" Oga, Google is your friend. Do proper research before you come back in here to make a fool of yourself, with further questions like this!

Nobody is asking you Biafrans to start a war or follow the path of South Sudan. I am merely showing you the series of events that took place, which led to them getting a referendum. Same thing with the issue of Bakassi. Cameroun took Nigeria to ICJ court in the '90s to be able to get Bakassi. nigeria initially rejected the ICJ ruling, but later accepted it, after they saw it was pointless to contest the ruling. If Cameroun had NOT taken nigeria to the ICJ, they would never have gotten Bakassi. Study the sequence of events that led to the breakaway of each territory, before coming back to ask questions like a schoolkid. Stop arguing blindly!

Oga, you are not paying me for a tutorial. Educate yourself and stop spewing illogical statements. This is the last time I will give you any info. I do not like lazy students like you, who refuse to do their homework!

I v come again to put u through.Some of u Nairaland ppl learn to destroy urselves.U r quick to copy and paste links from internet thinking everyone is daft to eat up those thrash that r not peer reveiwed.Ur problem is that u can not do better logical analysis and put ur arguement in the context of ur discussion. U said UN ICJ ruling on Bakassi is a binding case to why Nigeria must cede Bakassi without refering to the issue of referendum and plebiscite which is not in the constitution.Do u know that countries reject ICJ ruling when it is not in conformity with their political system?Even ICJ knows that one of its major shortcomings is that its rulings must be considered in a political context.Check US vs Nicargua and others.Alot of us have questioned the rationale behind Nigeria ceding of bakassi without a referendum or plebiscite which is very very bad.As i educate u experts wie on international studies is not happy with it.
Another case from u is on the Sudanese.You said they fought war for yrs and then brokered agreement with a referendum and the UN came in to conduct it.Pls is it how it happened?So u expect Biafrans to fight war for so many years and then Nigeria and Biafra will broker peace for referendum?As at the 2005 u mentioned, how come there was no referendum in the Sudanese constitution all the years they v been fighting from 1959?Why did it take 46years to insert it just few months to independence?What is it that persuaded Sudanese govt to do so even at a short time?Let me check u up,tell me,is it d decision of the President, or the country as a whole or pressure from outside that was instrumental to the cease fire and referendum in the Sudan/South Sudan case?Why would Sudanese govt accept it and include it?What really made d Sudanes govt to v a rethink for such inclusion?How come it was quickly arranged into South Sudan's law after they were not even a country? Sorry im taking u into international logic.So u can decieve ppl on Nairaland that Sudan and South Sudan agreed on their own for cease fire and inclusion of referendum?What about the roles of international communities and the UN in forcing them to peace and the threat on Bashir president of Sudan?Pls when u read u do proper analysis and not swallowing every word.
You v forgotten ur position of arguement so soon,how come?All i want u to learn is at what time referendum was considered for them?What were the factors surrendering it?Al Bashir on his own would not v allowed referendum up to this time im key boarding u.So how come he accepted?Let me give u the answer:pressure from outside.Same pressure on Nigeria to revert to civilian rule in 1999.Same pressure for the Apartheid govt to dismantle apartheid and release Mandela.All these pressures come with civil disobedience, actions and reactions.

MalcoImX:
We all love you. We don't have much to say but to make some observations. If with all Nnamdi has said and done you haven't seen anything wrong, I wonder if it's after he caused ethnic cleansing and war that you'd see the implications of his acts. Believe me, all Kanu's rhetorics were exactly the types employed pre-Rwandan genocide. This guy must recant for all to have peace. Don't allow him test the resolve of the state - and worse for the Igbo, he has alienated, with your supports, all who could have influenced him and events.

And what do u say of President Buhari's statements that had reactions than Nnamdi Kanu's statements?What do u say of statements from Ango Abdullahi and Tanko yakasia?What about the one from Oba of Lagos?What about the one from Obasanjo?What about the ones u people say of ur bravery and joy in killing millions of Igbos in the Civil War?Dont u think those statement are scurrilous and slanderous?Tell me who is more educated between these two,Nnamdi Kanu made hate speeches but none of his supporters have acted on any nor have they carried arms not even attacking someone and President Buhari's speeches that u acted on and killed thousands of ppl even corp members?Dont u reason that Ipobians r more reasonable and rational than u that is quick to dagger someone?You can kill them but you can't kill the spirit behind Biafra!

laudate:
Go back & read the judgement of the International Court of Justice ICJ concerning Bakassi. It was a court order that gave Bakassi to Cameroun, and NOT a referendum!! Your problem is that you and your people do not want to follow the proper process of getting the referendum clause inserted into the constitution. You even went as far as to draw that ridiculous analogy with military rule. Military rule came by way of a coup d'etat. Is that the route you want to follow? So why are you citing it as an example??



Oga, the United Nations can never insert any clause into your constitution, which was NOT originally there. What they can do is to advise your govt to insert the clause, or work with your lawmakers to pass a bill, which would then form part of your law. Please go and educate yourself!!

The case of South Sudan was different. South Sudan had many problems. It's been at war since 1959. They fought a war to separate from the North of Sudan, and after years of battle, a ceasefire was brokered, and then as part of the ceasefire agreement, a referendum was accepted by both parties , and the UN was called in to supervise it.

In fact the 2005 Interim National Constitution of the Republic of Sudan contained clauses on referendum. There was a clause on the Southern Sudan Referendum Act provided in Article 220 of that Constitution! Please, I cannot continue spoon-feeding you with info. All the facts are in public domain. Pls read it up, before you come back in here, to recycle your fallacy.

I v come again to put u through.Some of u Nairaland ppl learn to destroy urselves.U r quick to copy and paste links from internet thinking everyone is daft to eat up those thrash that r not peer reveiwed.Ur problem is that u can not do better logical analysis and put ur arguement in the context of ur discussion. U said UN ICJ ruling on Bakassi is a binding case to why Nigeria must cede Bakassi without refering to the issue of referendum and plebiscite which is not in the constitution.Do u know that countries reject ICJ ruling when it is not in conformity with their political system?Even ICJ knows that one of its major shortcomings is that its rulings must be considered in a political context.Check US vs Nicargua and others.Alot of us have questioned the rationale behind Nigeria ceding of bakassi without a referendum or plebiscite which is very very bad.As i educate u experts wie on international studies is not happy with it.
Another case from u is on the Sudanese.You said they fought war for yrs and then brokered agreement with a referendum and the UN came in to conduct it.Pls is it how it happened?So u expect Biafrans to fight war for so many years and then Nigeria and Biafra will broker peace for referendum?As at the 2005 u mentioned, how come there was no referendum in the Sudanese constitution all the years they v been fighting from 1959?Why did it take 46years to insert it just few months to independence?What is it that persuaded Sudanese govt to do so even at a short time?Let me check u up,tell me,is it d decision of the President, or the country as a whole or pressure from outside that was instrumental to the cease fire and referendum in the Sudan/South Sudan case?Why would Sudanese govt accept it and include it?What really made d Sudanes govt to v a rethink for such inclusion?How come it was quickly arranged into South Sudan's law after they were not even a country? Sorry im taking u into international logic.So u can decieve ppl on Nairaland that Sudan and South Sudan agreed on their own for cease fire and inclusion of referendum?What about the roles of international communities and the UN in forcing them to peace and the threat on Bashir president of Sudan?Pls when u read u do proper analysis and not swallowing every word.

laudate:
Go back & read the judgement of the International Court of Justice ICJ concerning Bakassi. It was a court order that gave Bakassi to Cameroun, and NOT a referendum!! Your problem is that you and your people do not want to follow the proper process of getting the referendum clause inserted into the constitution. You even went as far as to draw that ridiculous analogy with military rule. Military rule came by way of a coup d'etat. Is that the route you want to follow? So why are you citing it as an example??



Oga, the United Nations can never insert any clause into your constitution, which was NOT originally there. What they can do is to advise your govt to insert the clause, or work with your lawmakers to pass a bill, which would then form part of your law. Please go and educate yourself!!

The case of South Sudan was different. South Sudan had many problems. It's been at war since 1959. They fought a war to separate from the North of Sudan, and after years of battle, a ceasefire was brokered, and then as part of the ceasefire agreement, a referendum was accepted by both parties , and the UN was called in to supervise it.

In fact the 2005 Interim National Constitution of the Republic of Sudan contained clauses on referendum. There was a clause on the Southern Sudan Referendum Act provided in Article 220 of that Constitution! Please, I cannot continue spoon-feeding you with info. All the facts are in public domain. Pls read it up, before you come back in here, to recycle your fallacy.

I v come again to put u through.Some of u Nairaland ppl learn to destroy urselves.U r quick to copy and paste links from internet thinking everyone is daft to eat up those thrash that r not peer reveiwed.Ur problem is that u can do better logical analysis and put ur arguement in the context of ur discussion. U sent UU ICJ ruling on Bakassi as binding to why Nigeria must cede Bakassi without refering to the issue of referendum and plebscite in the constitution.Do u know that countries reject ICJ ruling when it is not in conformity with their political system?Even ICJ knows that one of its major shortcomings is that its rulings must be considered in a political context.Check US vs Nicargua and others.Alot of us have questioned the rationale behind Nigeria ceding bakassi without a referendum or plebscite.As i educate u experts wei is not happy with it.
Another bluff from u is on the Sudanese case.You said they fought war for yrs and then brokered agreement with a referendum and the UN came in to conduct it.Pls is it how it happened?So u expect Biafrans to fight war for so many years and then Nigeria and Biafra will broker peace for referendum?As at the 2005 u mention how come there was no referendum in the Sudanese constitution all the years they v been fighting.Why would Sudanese govt accept it and include it?What really made d Sudanes govt to v a rethink for such inclusion?So u can decieve ppl on Nairaland that Sudan and South Sudan agreed on their own for cease fire and inclusion of referendum?What about the roles of international communities and the UN in forcing them to peace and the threat on Bashir president of Sudan?Pls when u read u do proper analysis and not swallowing every word.

laudate:
You are the one that fails to learn from reality. So because the British would not support it, Zik decided to oppose the secession clause? Sorry, that excuse cannot hold water, as the British would have left Nigeria after independence, and as such would not have a say with regards to the Nigerian constitution, any more. Oga, go back and read the account of what transpired during that event very well.

And referendum does NOT come from the UN, if your country does not already have a referendum clause inside its constitution. The UN merely supervises the conduct of a referendum. Please Oga, talk to those who actually know about the process!

I kindly advise u to read and watch real life speeches and interviews of Zik i didnt say u should rely only on what tribalist v written. I mean it will help u. Secondly u think referendum was included in Sudanese constitution and Ethopia constitution?What about the ceding of Southern cameroon immediately after independence and Bakassi under OBJ.No country wants break up but with more civil disobedience pressure will come on the country to do the needful.Was military rule in Nigerian constitution?While military was in power, was it the constitution that made Nigeria to revert to democracy?I beg go sleep so that u go wake up go read watin i de tell u.Im not supposed to be dishing out this knowldge bc u r not paying me.When next u post on me i will charge u to educate u.

laudate:
Guy, you can keep writing long epistles up and down...but trust me, it would not get you your referendum. You can shout from now till next year, and do more sit-at-home protests, your referendum will definitely NOT come that way. Your political reps from your region, have to take the bull by the horn and insert it into the constitution. Once it becomes part of the law, then you can have your referendum.

Hate speeches are regarded in Nigeria. Don't be fooled. If they were not, you would not have so much tension between different ethnic groups today. Kindly recall that it was Zik who opposed the inclusion of a secession clause in the constitution, in the '60s. If he had not done so, maybe there would have been no need for this conversation, today. You would have been able to activate the clause and get your republic.

You keep citing examples from Europe without putting them in proper context. So I will not engage you in a debate, because you have refused to see the truth. End of story.

There is something about u which i v noticed.You failed to learn from reality.No one expects Nigeria to give referendum, it comes from UN whether it is in the constitution or not.Pls learn this properly. To what i noticed about u,u jump from one opinoin to another having not settle ur marginal knowledge on the current issue.Late Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe in one of the conferences before independence kicked against the inclusion of seccession clause.Ahmadu Bello and Awo spoke in support of the inclusion but when it was Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe's turn he spoke against it to the consternation of the British officials. They knew him as the champoin of Nigeria's independence struggle with his Zikist movement and hard stance against the British because of his American education but he suprised them. At the end he was ask why he opposed seccession clause he said he knew the British would never allow it and that they were expecting him to accept it but he surprised everyone by doing what they like. He said Ahmadu Bello and Awo would v turned to oppose the inclusion later because the British r more comfortable with the two people and advise them alot.I guess this little history will help u.Get better books and read not the ones written by tribalist.You can google Zik's speeches on youtube to listen to some of his life interviews and speech which i believe is better because u will do better thinking than when someone tells u lies.

Rossikki:
Yes, it is a MUST to stay in Nigeria, until and only until majority of Nigerians decide they want to break up. In the US, there are over 30 secessionist groups. Texas has about 3 such groups. Texas is the oil headquarters of the US. Do you think if secessionists in Texas start trouble, that Trump will allow Texas to secede? I mean, you people are just so naive. You don't think. You don't study. You just act on emotions and zero common sense. Nigeria will never allow any part of the country to secede, most especially the section that is so strategic to the nation, with its vast oil and gas reserves. It simply will not happen. Why on earth you dunderheads cannot see that, I've no idea. Keep following illiterates like Kanu. That one has his family cooling off in London so he's ok. Where will you send your family when the bullets and bombs start flying?

Is like u attended JIHADIST university bc u reason like them.South Sudan saperated because they dont v oil,kwo?Ukrian,Goergia etc saperated because they dont v strategic mineral resources kwo?Eritrea saperated because it does not have any resources?U r foolishly calling the USA u abuse and almost "pant Bomb" to behave irrational.U people keeping calling USA but u r so dumb about the principles that binds them together which ur leaders negates.When next u call USA i will inform CIA that u r one of the terrorist that attempted "Pant Bombing them".Learn how to be logical and sensible in ur analysis.

Trailii:
dumbo ...... u should ask yourself why the strong protest in south Africa that lead to the end of apartheid was successful .... it was successful because the whole people of south African country , neighbour countries people , other Africa countries , north America countries like Cuba etc supported the struggle.. the struggle was not fuel with hate and threat , the struggle was not led by a lunatic. and a war monger , Mandela never call for war , Mandela never call people animals , lunatics bastard etc .. the struggle was pure self determination struggle.
unlike your hate filled struggle , your entire neighbours are your enemy , you called Yoruba afonja, you called the ijaws lazy , you tag the uhrobo drunkard , you call the Hausa's dirty, you tag every one with different opinion about your struggle animals . your supreme leader call for the killing of Yoruba pastor , he calls for civil disorder , he runs a parallel government in another country ... can u see the difference between your struggle and that of south Africa ...

on the contrary , the breakdown of USSR is caused by international politics , the fall of communism , the loss of cold war and American growing influence in Europe .. I know they no teach you history for school that's why you blast rubbish for mouth.

I guess u r sleeping now,i pray God to reset ur brain to know history and do better analysis on it.Half education is a disease to urlikes.Nelson Mandela once visited Nigeria and solicited for finance to buy weapons even late Sir Ahmadu Bello gave him some cash. Part of charges against Mandela included carrying weapon and soliciting for it just like ur FG is charging Nnamdi Kanu. Hate speeches were rampant during apartheid struggle if u dont know get good books on South Africa and read not ur so called google because it will end up bringing ur back to me for more education.You called the breakup of USSR a political act, tell me the agitation for self determination that is not political and that does not have both local and international supports?This is how half baked u r in history.Make sure u get better knowledge before u come back to me else i will flog u.

laudate:
You still don't get it do you? It is wrong for Kanu to seek for self-determination, using hate speeches, vitriolic language and venomous rhetoric against other ethnic groups, and the state. Ask Rwanda how the war between the Tutsis and Hutus started. How many times must someone repeat this for you to get it?

Secondly, by throwing stones and missiles at the army, your people unwittingly turned themselves into combatants, and the army has enough backing under the law, to arrest them for such acts!

And Kanu started by calling for secession initially, before changing his tune to referendum. Referendum does NOT exist in the constitution as of now. The only way it can get there is if your political reps play their part in drafting a bill, to insert that clause into our legal lexicon. And there are steps that need to be taken before a referendum can be obtained. It is done through political means, which your House of Reps members must raise on the floor of the chamber and lobby enough votes to get an assent to it.

You only heard loud and clear his hate speech but u did hear luad and clear his call for referendum.When has hate speeches been noticed in Nigeria?Alot of Nigeria remands Igbos how they were massacred during the civil war and made to starve,is it not hate speech?More killings have happened outside the SE against the Igbos and before the killings someone must v made hate speech.Although i condenm hate speech but they r saying that referendum is what they need is it wrong.You said referendum is not in our constitution so they canno get it.Let me ask u, how was Bakassi ceded to Cameroon?Is Nigeria not supposed to oppose it because referendum or plebiscite was not in the constitution?If the bunch of people u call illiterate know better what referendum is how come educated people frown at it.Nigeria came into existence by Lugard after the British government conquered various ethnic group seperately.And at a time all the groups came together to pusue d agenda of one Nigeria on justice and equity.Who ever feels he s tired shoud be allowed to go.Europe is what it is today because of self determination principle.I firmly believe all the ethnic groups can do better than Europe.

Episteme2:
Apt one.The Biafran ideology is a regenerative one. You can never kill it by oppressing, repressing and killing the subscribers. A government that always constitutes terror and opposition to itself showcases unschooled leadership. Where has using military might to suppress genuine agitations worked? It's just a matter of time when this dance of shame will tell on Nigeria.
For those gleefully enjoying this moment of wickedness and illegalities just because it's directed at IPOB, it is a dangerous pleasure that will turn sour one day and hunt you. He who pelts another with pebbles asks for rock in return.

Honestly i wonder why some people r senseless and little in thinking like the small rocks in plateau state.Biafra is beyond NNamdi Kanu.Why he was in prison the agitation was there and more in foreign countries.The agitation is deep inside the people.What is the Army going to achieve by killing innocent people whereas what they believe is in their minds.Families from Father, mother to children believe in Biafra.Old men and women dance when they hear about it in the East.Many r ready to forego their investment for Biafra to come.Many outside r ready to give their best for it to come.They r saying that they need referendum not war but the military is taking war to them and some of u r supporting them.You can kill the man but not the struggle.Ask South Africans about the struggle against aparthied.This Biafran struggle will create more nationalism among the Igbos and give them courage to persevere against any odd.In better society the government provides opportunity for referendum.The govt works towards it to convince people against voting for secession and at the end the aim of those calling for it will be defeated.Government should summon courage and do the right things and stop kiling innocent civilians.

laudate:
These people can never learn!! They keep repeating the same illogical actions, yet have the guts to expect a different result. How is that possible?? See the kind of answer that girl gave after my comment. They would rather burn bridges, instead of seeking allies, and they feel they can insult people into supporting their cause. Nansense! Let them wake up and smell the coffee!

What is support?why r u so soaked with this childish mentality of support?Where r saying that the military invaded a region and started killing ppl u r business with ur old attitude of support.With all NK hate speech has anyone been attacked or maimed?Do u see IPOB members with weapons?What is wrong for NK to call for self determination through referendum?Is it that referendum does not sound democratic to you?If u believe in democracy call for a referendum the way the Catalonia and Quebec people were given such opportunity and stop supporting the killings of innocent civilians who r without arms.

laudate:
Did you ask Kanu what was his rationale for deploying his campaign of hate against other ethnic groups?! In doing so, he has alienated everyone who would have come to his rescue and screamed out on his behalf. Who wants to support a hatemonger like him?

Just like u keep supporting ur Oba of Lagos over his genocidal speech?

MalcoImX:
Good day Sir, it's always difficult to sympathize with those who have no human sympathy in denigrating others. You're very insensitive when it comes to dealing with others. Even if you get Biafra, you'll perpetually live with hostile neighbours who'd probably invade you to put a stop to the insecurity you'll bring to the region.

Nnamdi Kanu and Igbos r being attacked for demanding for REFERENDUM to self determination.They have no weapon and attacked no one.The military has killed thousands, raped women,killed pregnant women and children because the Igbos r agitating for self determination through REFERENDUM.Is REFERENDUM no more a democratic norm o principle of democracy?Why invade a man's house and start killing armless innocent Igbos at will.Where has the socalled Civil Liberty Organisations gone to?Where v the Civil Right Groups gone to?Why v they suddenly gone mute?Why killing the Igbos for asking for Self determination?In all the recorded movements in South East not a single fly was killed or attacked but the military came in shooting innocent Igbo people.If the government believes in democracy let her go for referendum.Catalonia in Spain had referendum, the Quebec in Canada had referendum too.Why cant the government allow referendum instead of killing innocent igbos.The Nigerian govt and the Nigerian Army should know that Nnamdi Kanu is not the struggle but Biafra.

SladeWilson:

You too shut up, keyboard warrior! you're here writing garbage, while your blodas are out there dying for beer fraud.

Nnamdi Kanu and Igbos r being attacked for demanding for REFERENDUM to self determination.They have no weapon and attacked no one.The military has killed thousands, raped women,killed pregnant women and children because the Igbos r agitating for self determination through REFERENDUM.Is REFERENDUM no more a democratic norm o principle of democracy?Why invade a man's house and start killing armless innocent Igbos at will.Where has the socalled Civil Liberty Organisations gone to?Where v the Civil Right Groups gone to?Why v they suddenly gone mute?Why killing the Igbos for asking for Self determination?In all the recorded movements in South East not a single fly was killed or attacked but the military came in shooting innocent Igbo people.If the government believes in democracy let her go for referendum.Catalonia in Spain had referendum, the Quebec in Canada had referendum too.Why cant the government allow referendum instead of killing innocent igbos.The Nigerian govt and the Nigerian Army should know that Nnamdi Kanu is not the struggle but Biafra.

Nnamdi Kanu and Igbos r being attacked for demanding for REFERENDUM to self determination.They have no weapon and attacked no one.The military has killed thousands, raped women,killed pregnant women and children because the Igbos r agitating for self determination through REFERENDUM.Is REFERENDUM no more a democratic norm o principle of democracy?Why invade a man's house and start killing armless innocent Igbos at will.Where has the socalled Civil Liberty Organisations gone to?Where v the Civil Right Groups gone to?Why v they suddenly gone mute?Why killing the Igbos for asking for Self determination?In all the recorded movements in South East not a single fly was killed or attacked but the military came in shooting innocent Igbo people.If the government believes in democracy let her go for referendum.Catalonia in Spain had referendum, the Quebec in Canada had referendum too.Why cant the government allow referendum instead of killing innocent igbos.The Nigerian govt and the Nigerian Army should know that Nnamdi Kanu is not the struggle but Biafra.

Nnamdi Kanu and Igbos r being attacked for demanding for REFERENDUM to self determination.They have no weapon and attacked no one.The military has killed thousands, raped women,killed pregnant women and children because the Igbos r agitating for self determination through REFERENDUM.Is REFERENDUM no more a democratic norm o principle of democracy?Why invade a man's house and start killing armless innocent Igbos at will.Where has the socalled Civil Liberty Organisations gone to?Where v the Civil Right Groups gone to?Why v they suddenly gone mute?Why killing the Igbos for asking for Self determination?In all the recorded movements in South East not a single fly was killed or attacked but the military came in shooting innocent Igbo people.If the government believes in democracy let her go for referendum.Catalonia in Spain had referendum, the Quebec in Canada had referendum too.Why cant the government allow referendum instead of killing innocent igbos.The Nigerian govt and the Nigerian Army should know that Nnamdi Kanu is not the struggle but Biafra.