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A001:
I understand how the truth makes you feel. That post is an objective summary of religion, including Islam. You'll still know the truth in the future, though. So, you can run from history and philosophy anyhow you like.

But you can't escape from the truth: religion is man-made.

E ma gbó òrò radarada lenu werey.

Please what's the truth?

Bimffo:
I see interesting thread, talk sey make I peep inside see the interesting EPL topic been discused, na so I dey see Tinubu, Obituary.

Wetin happen? BAT and OBI don dey play for EPL?

Mhizter, the caption is "all Discussions"

You can even bring your wife matter here, we go discuss am, save am and use it against you whenever you misbehave.

For now, welcome and while enjoying yourself here, do well to use your sense.

Donjazet2:
This is splendid! This right here is the entire point of our arguments here.

We're shutting down the extremism of amoto or anyone who will align with his belief that someone should be killed for blasphemy.

Most of us are agreeing that it is totally wrong for anyone to think it is okay to kill somebody, (legally or extra judicially) for blasphemy.

It's that MORAL argument we're having. AMONGST OURSELVES. Which is the aim of this forum. Sharing and exchanging ideas and knowledge.

Sigh!!!! At least, I'm relieved now!

GloriousGbola:
To be honest Bello is transparently dangerous and violent. Someone who mobilized people to invade dangote cement, and under whose watch there are assassinations and violence - it is a state where opposition politics comes with a dangerous price.

You know the boy very well.

raumdeuter:
Meanwhile amoto and reccy don hold Labor Party hostage for Kogi

https://www.nairaland.com/7482477/labour-party-queries-kogi-state

The national secretariat of the Labour Party queried the Kogi State chapter of the party over the poor outing that greeted the Presidential campaign rally in Kogi state.

* It was gathered that most of the attendees, mobilized from neighboring Enugu State to Lokoja for the rally, invaded the Ganaja Road secretariat of the party and held party officials captive for several hours asking for their mobilisation payment.

Egbon, ah tell you before now? The outing was very very poor. From my side, nobody get im time. We are only concerned on how to diminish Atiku's votes to the barest minimum. Like 80% to 20%... That is our strategy. But for senate, ah dy vote PDP.

Itsrm:
I must have confused you for someone else.

Lessons will surely be learnt.

Look at this tweet, this is what wins elections

Ah never know wetin give that roforofo man the confidence that he will win Tinubu. We shouldn't even be talk about him. On a normal day, Atiku is what we should be looking on how to counter his numbers up north. Thank God my state is secured for BAT.

Theflint1:
All this one you dey talk no concern me, my point is saying someone said NO to free money simply because they felt they'd stolen enough is a naive take.

OK.

larride:
I'm not talking about Dayo here. I am talking about YOU.

You Donjazet, what moral right do you have to criticize those that campaigned and voted for Buhari, the same man you campaigned and voted for in 2015?

You Donjazet, what moral right do you have to tell anyone who to vote or not vote for seeing that in your own words "Buhari is a colossal failure" but you were part of those that has brought the colossal failure into power?

I ask you donjazet, do you not think you deserved to be cursed daily for bringing Buhari into power?

Questions begging for answers.

This one la gbara ooo

Theflint1:
Lol, this is a rather naive take. What thief would say no to more when they know the more they're getting is in fact their entitlement?

Tinubu who till today has a direct pipe from the Lagos state government's purse into his pocket hasn't said no to pension.
Akapabio/Amaechi and other governors from oil-rich SS states haven't said "Okay, I stole enough as governor from my rich state, lemme rest small", they're still hustling for positions and collecting pensions.
But it's PO from Anambra that will feel like he's stolen enough that he should now say no to money that he's in fact entitled to

Does that Change the fact that He was/is a thief? I carri money inside Bullion van, you, you carri your own inside jeep dy enter another state.
You con dy call me thief..... Shey no be madness be that? You invested public resources into your private business, you come dy yarn pe you know no my source of income. May source kill you dia.

Pandora paper open your nyansh and your people cum dy curse you and wish you death but suddenly, you come dy jump from one church to another , you suddenly turn messiah to the clowns wey wish you death, and forcing you on our throat.... May truck fall on any werey wey dy yarn dust about messiah again.

To crown it all, you turn your state to rubble with no visible development except that doctors were at home and Anambrans were dying and suffering, with dipilated school building and all that, but no, you come suddenly become an angel.

Bro, you no no say nah from home charity dy start? Ah no even talk about the innocent lives wasted by that man sef, wetin be e name sef...wet waste the lives of Anambrans inside water.

Make nobody provoke me ooo. I'm too old for this child's play.

Itsrm:
What changed? I thought you were going to vote for Obi

Me? Ah dy mad?

Mo batified shiere.
I was even discussing along with one of my padi for school yewterday suddenly, he asked me, who am I voting for? I said Tinubu, he was shocked being that he is from kaduna south, I repeated it... Tinubu mr man. He said why now... I was surprised he was asking why?
I immediately knew the angle he was coming from. He hates El rufai more than the devil and even wish he can exchange it with devil ( a red flag).

I told him I recognise the fact that the APC ticket is not being fair to my Christain brothers but I look beyond religion when choosing a leader.

He said he prefers Atiku or Obi, I said fine. But whatever comes from voting Atiku, be ready for another Fulani bloodshed like my guy in power now.
Werey was somehow not happy. I told him I choose Tinubu simply because he has the best team for the job. Werey was nodding an I said, while respect your decision to go for either obi or Atiku, please do well by looking beyond social media, orators and messiah. History has taught us a lot about them.


Make February do quick now. We want to teach some people politics 111.

Donjazet2:
Oga whatever you may perceive as Obi's shortcomings, Tinubu's is 10 times worst.
We have to make a choice because one of them must rule us by this time next year.

Whose will be better?? That's the question.
Statistics has shown us that Obi performed better than Tinubu "relative to resources available".
Obi has astounding legacies on education, rural development and economic balancing in the state.
One of the only governors not to borrow a single dime throughout his tenure in office, do you know what that means? A governor who at the time of leaving office was not owing any single salary or pension. A governor who has not received a penny from state government while others feed fat on state resources.

I could go on and on but I'm sure you already know all these but is trying Soo hard to give yourself flimsy reason why you would be a coward on the sidelines. Sorry for that word but it is what it is. Saying you're not voting is an absolute surrender to the wicked politics being played. Keep playing the ostrich.

Are you really talking about someone that invested the state money into his family business?
You forgot Pandora paper?
You mean the one that was caught with raw cash on his way to Lagos? Are we even sure if that was his first time? We cannot really sure how many cash he had stacked in soakaway?

What does this same person needed pension or senate for?

Ahbeg make we give ourselves brain here. No be everbody dull.

Itsrm:
If you even watch the whole of the video, the man claimed that Ojukwu was vehemently against the second tenure of PO. For a man whose followers boast about his performance as Governor, the immediate question that comes to mind is why?

Was Ojukwu oblivious of this stellar performance?

Hehhhe. Ah dy gbadun you. Dy give them hot hot. I can't believe a man onced wished he died a disastrous death due to bad governance is now the messiah to save Nigeria.....

I'm too old for all these gibberish jhor

Donjazet2:
Dude issa jihadist.
Fear who no fear am.

Wrong..... Very very wrong perspective you have of him.

A001:
reccy, you don hear so? Just accept the barbaric practices of your religion like that. Don't live in denial like those two fools yesterday.

Again leave me.

I'm more focus on seeing the Victory of JAGABAN.

#Renewed Hope#

DissTroy:
But Amoto and yourself are supposedly from Kogi. If it's about dividing the country, what part of Kogi would go to liberal Muslims like yourself and countless others I know, and what part would go to murderous fanatical Muslims like Amoto?

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Donjazet2, yes, I have. I'm just putting it out there for them to realize their stance(s) and defence of Amoto were not steeped in or templated on the observable realities amongst the extremists in the Muslim community.

Amoto was clear on what he meant but they tried to whitewash his obvious intentions. Even going as far as gaslighting.

Amoto is not fanatical nor murderous muslim and I'm very sure you are not getting his stance. With the few encountered I've had with him, He is a nice guy, yes Amoto94 is a good guy to the core. I don't know where all these fuses are from.

A001:
Lols, you sabi Islam pass Saudi, the home of Islam abi. See this man, calling the highly knowledgeable clerics of Saudi and the North ignorant, who drafted Sharia laws based on the practice of Muhammad when he was alive (from his sayings I posted here yesterday).

Sharia is the core of Islam: Deal with that fact. If you dispute this, you're a munafiq (an infidel). You can't accept Qur'an and reject your prophet's Sunnah unless you're a fake Muslim.

The ruling is perfectly in line with the tenets of Islam.

Some of the haadith (sayings of Muhammad) from which Sharia laws on death penalty for convicted blasphemers were drawn:
https://hadithcollection.com/sahihbukhari/sahih-bukhari-book-59-military-expeditions-led-by-the-prophet-PBUH-al-maghaazi/sahih-bukhari-volume-005-book-059-hadith-number-369

https://azislam.com/punishment-for-insulting-the-prophet

Leave me alone......

DissTroy:
>Breaking news:
"Kano cleric sent to déath by hanging for blasphemy"
- https://leadership.ng/just-in-kano-cleric-abduljabar-nasiru-kabara-to-die-by-hanging/

This is what Amoto always wanted and defended. "Try him but put him to déath regardless." His exact stance on Deborah's killing too.





So much for those who were defending him and trying to explain away his very obvious stance on fanatical murder.

What d'fuq? Can someone just bring dagger and lets divide this contraption? This shit can never be one.

I mean, can't you see that this forced marriage is not working? Sentence to death?

My Islam has suffered in the hands of ignorant people!

A001:
Can your clerics online and offline just allow us (freethinkers) to be without disturbing us with noises five times daily about nonsensical issues like end time, hell-fire, and others?

This is a general thread, and I'll always post my opinion on issues whether you like it or not. Your beliefs aren't above scrutiny, questioning, and criticism.

No belief is.

And if you're afraid of your beliefs getting scrutinized, it shows you're hiding something? What are you hiding?

Perhaps, you're afraid if people scrutinize and keep on scrutinizing your religious beliefs, they'll discover the barbaric practices in them.

OK.

This A001 get problem sha. He is even calling himself ex Muslim with his poor knowledge of islam.

Please can you just allow your own belief be yours and ours be for us?

Aye o ju yen lo now.

الحمد لله على نعمة الإسلام

iamoyindamola:
The issue is they are brainwashed, they are also hypocrite because they hardly follow prophet bidding but once they hear or see infidels like they call them say anything against prophet they start to form activity and become violent
But ask them if they have not commit sin or anything the prophet don't support they won't say anything
Their mentality is to kill non muslims at any slight opportunity

People wey no dy pray?

I feel insecure in their midst sef..... I don't just like their way of life. I don't! They are so repulsive to me that I hardly even like tasting their food.

Shishi, dem no know but they would be the first shouting and killing the so called "infidel".

Well, we hope one day, their mentality will Change sha.

raumdeuter:
Amoto94 reccy and other Kogi people


https://www.nairaland.com/7478841/pictures-labor-partys-presidential-campaign

Hahah. Obi should just forget kogi ahbeg because for kogi central, e no fi see 20 votes. Dat side nah APC lockdown... For kogi west, you know those one are yoruba extraction and your guess as good as mine on who they will vote for.
For Kogi East oooo, it is battle ground for APC and PDP. That's where Atiku can get reasonable votes.

Where Obi and his gangs can raise their votes to distant 4th is the state capital- lokoja because of their unnecessary brainwashing on social media.

We dy wait for am here.

There are many strategies of winning election and rigging is not part of it!

A001:
Nothing that I've not said before.

OK sir.

GloriousGbola:
I am frankly not in agreement with the blasphemy laws either. If those things are to really be pushed every last one of us will have multiple sentences.

True. If we have to go by this blasphemy shits of a thing, it will cause chaos and the earlier we know this and look for a way round it, the better....

But we are where we are because certain region thinks they can harm, destroy and kill people because of God regardless.......

Its a function of people /locality and not religion.

A001:
Lols, in Sharia, death penalty is the punishment for convicted blasphemers.

Thank goodness Sharia isn't the official legislative framework of the whole federation. If not, many Christians, traditional worshippers, and freethinkers would have been killed by blood-thirsty Muslims for so-called blasphemous statements while the Muslims blaspheme daily the teachings of other faiths.

Hhehe. Welcome sir. I've been anticipating you.

What do you have to say about it?

iamoyindamola:
You try but that amala you are turning get plenty lumps
He said death is the penalty for blasphemy in sharia, tell me where you see 2 years jail term

Even at that, that can only happens if found guilty. well, I'm not amoto94. I cannot come and kill myself.

Donjazet2:
Wow!! Obasanjo finally publicly endorses Obi for the presidency.
SW will be a tough battleground. APC has never had a stranglehold on the region.

I'm still ready to stake with anyone that Obi will win the south. He will have the highest number of the entire southern votes cumulatively put together.

Game on?

iamoyindamola:
He's also right, amoto supported the killing but in his own words not the manner she was killed
Either way she deserves to die over a WhatsApp message

Which of the statement from him are you having issue comprehending?
He condemned the way she was killed but would have preferred going through a judicial process which it would have been 2years max jail term or something like that if found guilty.

This is what any sane country, society, or religions rely to punish offenders.

OasisX:
Jazakallah Khaera for this Enlightenment.

I see what you did there....

Anyway, wa anta.....

donstan18:
At some point, I even admitted that people should behave according to their environment that very day, but did with my full chest, no grammar packaging.

He supported the killing of Deborah, how it was done doesn’t matter, fact remains that he supported the fact that she was killed for WhatsApp group’s message.

Ok.

donstan18:
You mean to say you understand his position when packaged with grammar?

Lolz, the statement he made was self explanatory boss. I think Izzou and one other guy here have once acknowledged the fact that his position was never wrong base on his belief if I'm not mistaken.

OasisX:


Educate us bro. That's my understanding of Ahmadiyyah though. They are siting a University in Osun State, Minaret University. Guess you know?

Yeah I know. Infact, they virtually dominate kogi central and you saying, they have a prophet aside prophet Muhammed is not true.

Although they have leaders which they revered just like other sects, and I'm not blind to the fact that they praise and hold their leaders high for whatever reasons but they never consider them as prophets.

For me, I can equate some of their way of worships to southern Muslims.... They like dancing, singing, occasions, and mixing with opposite gender unnecessarily but guess what, they majorly acts like they don't take their prayer serious. Its not like they don't pray, they do, but having a full prayer less than a minute is no no for me.

donstan18:
He supports terrorism.

I don't think so. I understand his position and I don't see any wrong in his position when rationalised.