CAPSLOCKED:


LOL. CALM YOUR TEMPER BROS.

In the US, look at what their men are facing because they couldn't put their women in their place. Divorce laws, Alimony laws, too much money than necessary in child support, believing women without evidence and convicting men of rape, women serve lower times in jail, and other gynocentric laws and privileges, feminism, #metoo etc.

Do you know that in divorce courts in the US, you wife has automatic custody of the kids? Women are believed without evidence during divorce proceedings if they claim you are an abusive father and husband and you sexually molested your kid? As I have said, the greatest mistake men made was thinking that women are their equals in intellect, morality and virtues. Many men are still making that mistake hence they are surprised when their "perfect" wife and girlfriends misbehaves during hard times. For this same reason, many men are deeply surprised when that girl, girlfriend or female friend accuses them of rape.

In the US, when they compared women's vote to men's votes, they found out that if women's vote determined the results, the US will be in trouble. Most women want the welfare state (the very thing that has destroyed black Americans), socialism, abortion (even killing a baby at 9 months. Talk about nurturing), open borders, reparations etc.

It is also known in the US that an all female company will collapse. Show me one all female top company headed by women from CEO to staff that is standing. If men can't be strong, they will suffer.

bukatyne:


100 likes.

As in, a father is good and the mother paints him bad?

How?

Instead of them to sit up and become good fathers, they are looking for women who would do PR for them.

Another usual but ineffective tactic : woman supporting and tagging each other in their echo chamber. As long as men have woken up, you all can rot in your echo chamber.

lagosminded:
You realized it doesn’t look cool to call women children now you are back pedaling. Anyways, that’s why I jumped on this thread. Since you now regret doing so, you can carry on stroking your d!ck. Na for woman you get power. One day, I hope I get to see this kind of passionate responses in male dominated sections

A woman like you can't do sh!t. Show me where I called women children? I only said you both reason alike. Again, you are not bright.

lagosminded:
So you’ve been arguing with children since? What does that make you?

Lol. Seems you are not bright. Someone thinking like a child doesn't mean that such person is a child. Men love video games like children do but men are not children. I warned your mother to breastfeed and nourish you properly but she did not listen. Now, her son is a dunce while her breasts are still firm.

lagosminded:


WOW so you are saying women are like children. This has descended into something else.

Yes, CAPSLOCKED is right. When you study how women argue and reason on many issues, they are no different from children.

JONNYSPUTE:
.. That's where I ve problem with most ladies. Once something doesn't go in their way,you ate seen as an enemy. They are too emotional. Just like what happened yesterday in the hotel where I lodged. Due to the fact that my room was not cleaned when I came back,I refused paying. The receptionist started shouting at me and when I wanted to entre my room she used her body to block me,if I had slapped her,they would ve said I raised my hands on a woman. I simply called her director and she was sacked immediately. All the females working there saw me as a bad person but non spoke to her when she was acting.They seems to allow emotions becloud their sense of reasoning.

Our forefathers knew about the emotional, egoistic, manipulative, deceptive and destructive power of women that's why they introduced the patriarchy. The patriarchy not only only put women in check but made society safe. Unfortunately, feminists, beta historians, Hollywood and the rest told us that our forefathers were misogynists.

The reason why women were not allowed to vote was because our forefathers knew that women are too emotional and could not make the sound logical decision especially when it didn't fit them. It was not that they hated women. Imagine if a socialist politician comes to Nigeria and gives women free stuff regularly and promises them more, who do you think women will vote for? Even if you try to explain why capitalism is better and why socialism is disastrous, they will not listen? The greatest mistake men made was to think that women are their equals intellectually and morally. Women can be moral and intelligent but not on the level of men.

Men are currently suffering from the plague called feminism. In the West, it's feminism and the gynocentric laws. This happened because men were brought up to put women on the pedestal and believe in the thing called "love". Men are worshipping women as women are manipulating the hell out of them.

bukatyne:



[s]No matter how you try to twist it, it is the responsibility of the father to ensure his children see him as he really is.[/s]

[s]If all the children have to judge his persona is the feedback from their mother, he is still a failed father.[/s]

[s]I know a father who visited his kids despite the fact that his wife left him when he lost his job.[/s]

[s]He couldn't give the kids anything yet whenever he visited, he prayed for them, re-assured them of his love and dropped one or two nuggets.[/s]

[s]Did I also mention that the wife was trying to poison the kids against their father so they had to meet outside?[/s]

[s]If you a man enough to father kids, be man enough to nurture them and stop blaming your wife for their perception of you.[/s]

[s]I know kids whose father disciplined them well yet they do not doubt his love. Some of these men were poor, others were not even good husbands so it was not like they were perfect.[/s]

Shift commot with your "story".

CAPSLOCKED:


THE CHILD, ESPECIALLY IF FEMALE GROWS UP WITH REASONINGS INHERITED FROM HER MOTHER. SHE PROCEEDS TO HATE ALL MEN THE WAY HER MOTHER TAUGHT HER TO HATE HER DAD.

THE OUTCOME IS WHAT WE HAVE IN THE GUISE OF "FEMINISTS" AND WOMEN LEADERS.

Funny enough, the stupid feminist will still make the same mistake her mother made.

In our society, when someone is daft and you call them daft, they accuse you of bad manners. Oh, the irony.

CAPSLOCKED:



EVERY THREAD DISCUSSING THE EVILS OF MEN.. IS A GOOD MOVE TO SET THE SOCIETY RIGHT.
ANY THREAD ABOUT THE EVILS OF WOMEN SUDDENLY BECOME ABOUT WOMEN HATING, WOMEN BASHING, ALPHA MALES, STORIES UPON STORIES.

YOUR QUADRUPLE STANDARD IS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THESE THREADS. MANY YOUNG BOYS HAVE TO WAKE UP AND GROW UP TO AVOID SUCH EVIL MANIPULATIONS.

She is not bright. When Martinez39 said it's a waste of time to argue with women on certain issues, I thought he was a bit misogynistic. Beta me. Now I can see for myself given the bullcrap I have had to swallow from these females. They are full of deception, emotions and manipulation.

I promise myself as from henceforth to never argue with any female on issues like this.

ImaIma1:


As I said if you can't be sensible, please don't quote me.

You are already being emotional and unrealistic. You that don't have a mind of your own..you have to call Ubunja's name first. Please I am not ready for Ubunja's boys today.

So if I write the following :
As Albert Einstein said "imagination is more important than knowledge", does it mean that I don't have a mind of my own and I am emotional and unrealistic? Does it mean that I am Einstein's boy?

Sorry to say, you are not bright and you are a bit daft. Maybe it's genetic or you are being emotional. Good bye and this time, I mean it.

ImaIma1:


I understand all this. My husband is away at work a lot and even travels. But the time he gets to spend with his daughter is very important to him. It's a joy to watch them. If I were to be the kind of wife that badmouths people, it will be hard to make her hate her dad. That's what I mean.

This kind of comment up here from you is why I say this thread is another female bashing thread.

For showing small signs of calm at my truths, let me reply.

Never underestimate the power of brainwashing and female manipulation. As far as the mother has turned the heart of the child away from the husband, the little time the father spends with the child won't count because the child hates the father and won't open up to the father. You won't understand this because, by your own admission(that's if you telling the truth), you are not the kind of mother that brainwashes the child against the father.

JONNYSPUTE:
.. Lies.I disagree with you. For you to term or see the thread as a female bashing one speaks a lot. You are already biased.

A woman is already biased and emotional once the cunning ways of the female nature has been exposed. Reasoning with them on issues like this is like expecting to see an alien spaceship in Nigeria.

ImaIma1:


Now this here is a major problem on Nairaland.

If you cannot be sensible and civil in your communication, please don't quote me.

Lol. Face the truth. Martinez39 was right, having the expectation of females being reasonable on an issue like this is unrealistic. Like ubunja said, don't expect the sun to rise from the...

Good day.

ImaIma1:
The problem with this thread is that it takes another form of a female bashing thread which has become a norm on NL.

It's only a man that is not actively involved in his child's life that will be a victim of such a woman's influence on the child.

1) Most fathers are away from home most of the time hustling to cater for their families.
2) Mothers therefore have all the time in the world with the children.
3) Never underestimate the power of brain washing. In addition, most mothers subtly make it known to kids that "it's either your father or me."
4) During marital dispute and in the case of separation in which the mother keeps the kids, the father is helpless against the brainwashing because the father will usually have to go through the mother to see the kids. The mother then has the privilege to regulate and manipulate the conversation between father and kids and the mindset of the children towards the father.
5) When the mother forbids the kids from giving the father their contacts and only permit calls through her phone, what can the father do? When a brainwashed child is blinded by hate and doesn't want to see the father, what can the father do?

More deception from ladies. Martinez39, the critical thinker and red piller, has exposed these wicked and petty mothers. Good day.

ImaIma1:


The fathers should get close to their children and stop using the excuse of "their mother is poisoning their minds" to cover their negligence.

Are you trying to say that there are no mothers who poison their children's mind and alienate them from their fathers? Anyway, let me not waste my time arguing with a woman. Forget I asked.

doitforyou:
What have we here folks? A prime specimen. So what value do you want to add to this thread? You should be able to use your words to communicate your thoughts. You are really on a roll on this thread, I am sure this thread has been the best thing to happen to you in your life. You are not deceiving people though, we understand why you always have to be brash in all of your replies.

Lol. Try harder. Men are beginning to see women for what they are and no one has time to address you guys' silly opinions. Real men don't make too much exchanges with women. There is a time to draw the line and leave you people with your deception. Martinez39 has done a great job that resonated with many. If you like, maintain your deception and manipulation but just know that they are ineffective. Good bye forever as far as this thread is concerned.

doitforyou:
So this post finally made front page.

[s]The new replies since this post made front page are hilarious. Most guys that comment on the romance/family sections are very immature. They don't want or know how to handle opposing views, anybody with an "f" moniker with an opposing view is "dumb" "emotional" "thinking like a woman" an opposing "m" moniker is an "ass-licker" "weak man". These men shoot down alternative views/ideas in order to confirm and reinforce their existing myopic views. People that can't stick to topic because they don't have anything intelligent to add to the thread resort to sexist tropes to mask their deficiencies. An empty barrel makes the most noise.[/s]

[s]Ironically, a moniker mentioned Quora, that's a very civilized forum where you seldom see people insult or attack a moniker simply because they disagree with their comment(s). I have also noticed people carry over beef they have with a moniker on previous threads to a new irrelevant thread. It seems to survive on NL you have to get in the gutter with these people, unfortunately I have been dragged down there sometimes. I have seen intelligent/insightful men and women leave these sections or don't post as often as they normally would.[/s]

[s]I read this post almost immediately it went up and it was very one sided and it put ALL the blame on women, after he got 1 or 2 replies he went back and sanitized the post and then he added the little disclaimer on top. Anyone that isn't biased or misogynistic understood the post for what it was, even the sanitized version couldn't mask the sexist undertones. Why come to a public forum with diverse members if what you want is an echo chamber? If you think a woman's viewpoint is dumb and emotional, why not be confident enough to share your intelligent and rational viewpoint? Why hide behind offensive and derogatory words? Even if you want to use offensive words, why not use words that describe your OWN viewpoint. This section is now a joke, a cesspool of individuals that get their relevance on Nairaland.[/s]

Lol. The deception and emotional whining are ineffective. Say all you like, no one is falling for your trash. OYO.

marvelous000:


hehehe! isn't it risible when a butthole-stimulated-m0r0n like miss, kiss my ass(marialavina), acquires the delusion of exaggerated sense of self importance, and revel in the dignity of bush animal.
sincerely speaking, I was tempted to unleash a shadow of my barrage on you, but that will be tantamount to an armed soldier going against an unarmed civilian like you, running her mouth like dysentery, and looking to court attention which i actually volitionally sanctioned for my own entertainment. my Cyprus000 moniker is currently on a one year ban after your ilk who ran her mouth far more than you-couldn't stand my barrage, and ran to the mods for solace.
conversely, I've always been against abortion, but after meeting you, I've decided I am in favor of abortion in cases of incest. especially when a walking apology of contraceptive like you, wander from one corner of cyberspace to another pillaging human brain with rabid stupidity.

Even if you don't like MariaLavina, why roast her to suya? E no good o.

Tellemall:


Once a man doesn't subscribe to your bitterness with women it must be a female?

No wonder there are deadbeat men.

The reason why women do that is because of men like you. You have empowered them. You are the reason those ones called feminists are exist.

Lol. As Martinez39 once said, when a woman is speaking on certain issues, you will know it's a woman without being told. Bye bye.

GLYCOLYSISS:

This is a typical situation when a woman gets hold of your shirt in street & keep yearning;

"Hit me ,if you're man enough ! "
"You bastard ! Hit me nah ? "
The man deciding to still keep his emotion intact,the woman is having non of that !

"You useless man ! Hit me ! And I will teach you the lesson of your miserable life !"

The man deciding to walk away, then the woman goes into total shaming

"Useless man !"
"I thought they say men are the stronger vessel ?"
"Miserable man ! "

Martinez39,pls if you want to respond to her,do it of your own accords,not because she is applying some childish psychology on you to prove a point to her.
If your choose to ignore her ,ignore her real good !
If you choose to respond,then you go ahead,not because of her shaming tactics she have decided to employ..
Woman are compulsively manipulative, always remember that.

I have been monitoring both MariaLavina and Martinez39. Martinez39 has refused to answer her. I doubt if Martinez39 will waste his time to answer her.

Martinez39, where are you?

I have cold beer for you.

Tellemall:
[s]Understandably we have reached an age where men wish to compete with women, we are looking for how to absolve ourselves of failures on the homefront, but we need to be realistic with all the hatred we heap on women.[/s]

[s]Are women the cause of broken homes or are there really deadbeat fathers? On whose shoulders do the responsibilities of family fall? The head of the home or the weaker vessels? Why bear the title of the head and do nothing with it?[/s]

[s]Most here sympathize with their fathers now because they're dead and the passage of time has made them softer on the man. If a man cannot take time to be with his family and understand them, then his wife will rightly preach about him to the children. He has an equal chance to, but he's not interested in it probably because his family is not that important to him "it's my wife's business".[/s]

[s]If you check it carefully, most African fathers are terrible. The children make excuses for them and try to paint them in a good light when they become terrible fathers as well or when the fathers die. There's this guy, O-tea who wrote on that. There's a cycle of bad fatherhood. The mentality that there are so many women we can have and impregnate when one annoys us is the reason why we tend to treat our families badly. We think we will start a new family. Sometimes we do and sometimes we don't. When we get lonely we act like we were good to them in the past. And when you think of how your father's died alone, you feel bad, but do not want to think of why that is so...except to blame your mothers. Why weren't your father's better dads? No smoke without a fire.[/s]

If only you girls realised how powerless and ineffective your sophistry and manipulation are, you girls won't bother writing your trash because it's deceiving nobody. This manipulation, that most mothers have been using since the beginning of time, has been exposed by Martinez39 and no trash by any nairaland female can change that.

MariaLavina:
Lol and you think that was for you? you must have thought yourself cerebrally intelligent enough to get an opinion from me.I don't reason with schmucks dude, you may take you grievance elsewhere.


Let the reasonable ones digest that.

A fool intoxicated with the belief that she is intelligent and someone of value. Lmao . Bye.

MariaLavina:
[s]Bro Jonny no one is saying there aren't bad women out there but then it will be better if guys here can be objective for once and see the truth.Blaming women for everything won't help them in anyway.A wise one will read all comments with an open mind, pick sense and move on.[/s]

[s]Now let's analyze your friend's case, the woman probably frustrated the man for him to have moved out, but the question is: While he made that decision, did he consider his children? You see, Nigerian men have this belief that women own the kids, they are just suppliers.They believe when it comes to the children the women have most influence on them.Well I can't argue this because it is most times true but what I can argue is: Men are the cause. If a man can create a bond with his child, turning the child's mind against him will be very difficult in not impossible. Take a look at guys who have been victims of op's thread, even when they find out the truth about their fathers they couldn't hate their mothers (women who deprived them of fatherly love) That's the power of BOND.[/s]

[s]2) Did the father ever tried to reach out to your friend? Here's the deal , the moment a parent move out of the house it passes only one message to the child : I don't love you enough to stay. The child process this information and gradually form his or her perception, walking out on a child simply means you don't care enough for them while the other who stays cares.Women understand the child's mind that's why you see them enduring hardship for their sake. When you hear I stayed because of my child, it simply means I don't want my child to think I don't love him. Now, your friend's dad made the first error of leaving and the greatest one of not reaching out.[/s]

[s]Finally your friend has no heart, even if all bad things were said about his father.The fact that the man is the reason he is a being should have stopped him from neglecting his father.Whatever happens to displaying a form of maturity by looking beyond words of a grieved one (his separated mom) and searching for truth. Even if his mother's words were true it is very inhuman to abandon his father because of what he heard. Your friend isn't completely innocent here, this is a case of someone who is told to do something wicked and he does it, he has his own wickedness imbed in him already.[/s]
[s]Honestly you can't blame anyone for failed marriage or family, you can only blame everyone[/s]

So much effort dedicated to maintaining the false narrative that the great critical thinker, Martinez39, has shattered with his wonderful and remarkable topic. Such mothers will be exposed and there is nothing you can do about it. Not even the trash you wrote will amount to anything. Hush woman!

JONNYSPUTE:
If we are honest here,we would ve noticed that the op was very objective in his right up.He never generalized that all women are bad neither did he say that all men are good. I think the problem here is the lack of comprehension from some of us here. Listen to this.... ...Was hanging out with my closet pal one night and suddenly he started crying. I was confused, so I asked him why he was crying and he told me a story he had never told me before. ......He said that while growing up,he hated his dad so much because their mum made them believe their father was a very bad person. He told me that his father moved out from his own personal house to a rented apartment and stayed there till he died. All these while,himself and the other siblings believed what ever their mum told them and that made him never to check on the man until he died of hbp and stroke. He told me he is crying now because he started asking questions about his dad and what he found out was terrible.The whole thing the mum told them were all lies.

Thank you. These girls and dumb beta boys were acting as if what Martinez39 is talking about doesn't happen. These things are happening. Hopefully the messages of people like Martinez39, ubunja, lukui and the likes can travel far for people to start waking up.

liberalchick:
What?!!

So why are you choosing to ignore the first part of his post? Why type the first half if it’s not relevant to his post? Just because the OP decided to add “some” in his concluding paragraphs doesn’t magically erase the generalizations in the post, the OP put them there for a reason. I read a post and I posted my comments on the parts I disagreed with.

Regarding your childish emotional outburst, get help.

I did not any part of his post instead I pointed you out for ignoring certain parts of his post. Keep playing dumb. If at this stage you don't know that read a write up completely before attacking the writer, you can't be helped. If you can't understand such a simple write up by Martinez39, you can't be helped. At your age, you call a clarification the addition of "some"? Do you know what it means to clarify?

When Martinez39 said he can't expect reasoning from the female gender on certain issues, he seemed like a misogynist but now I can see where the wise guy is coming from. Good day and from henceforth, I won't engage you. Rot in your foolishness.

liberalchick:
lol where did I make it a We vs Them?

I was calling out the generalization of women in the OP, I never compared the roles of both gender in parental alienation. If you are referring to my example, I used it to highlight my premise, just because you have few anecdotes doesn’t mean you have enough facts/authority to generalize.

Most posters have commented that the OP is just about mothers who alienate their kids from their fathers, if it was I wouldn’t be on this thread. The first half of his post infers that most deadbeat dads wouldn’t be deadbeats if women didn’t badmouth dads in front of their kids.

Read my post above yours and see the analysis of those two pictures and tell me where Martinez39 generalised. Indeed, foolishness is intentional at times.

liberalchick:
Confirmation bias is very strong on this thread, we interpret what we want to interpret. What I inferred from the first half of his post is that most men wouldn’t be deadbeat dads if women didn’t poison the well.

Either you are a shameless and pathetic liar or your brain did not develop properly. You are very manipulative. Beside, why read just the first part? Are you not supposed to read the whole thing? What sensible person reads just the first half of someone's write up and attacks them? Are you okay? Everyone(GLYCOLYSISS, KanuSE, JONNYSPUTE, CAPSLOCKED, etc), come see the game liberalchick is playing?

You purposely picked just the first part so you can avoid the clarification in the second picture below and therefore have some ground to attack me and accuse me of generalising since your emotions are against me.

pic 1: The very first thing you will see in his write up. How come you got your inference for the first half of his post? Are you that dull? Despite this you and other dull girls still attacked him for painting all fathers as saints and all mothers as evil.
pic 2: @blue part, Martinez39 made himself clear again that some mothers could be good while the fathers could be at fault. No sensible person has any ground to accuse Martinez39 of generalising. Only daft humans claimed Martinez39 was generalising.

CeterisXVII:


Nope...it shows that he was playing to the gallery. All those things were just PR stunts to promote his songs and boost his image.

Na lie. Davido is already made and does not need that petty attention seeking. His song Assurance was already selling before he bought the porsche. It's only a fool that is blind to the fact that Davido loves Chioma deeply.

He also started businesses for the other baby mamas.

Lies. Provide evidence for this claim and prove me wrong.

He is still going to cheat on Chioma after marriage and have more baby mamas...

Let us bet...a leopard cannot change its spots!

Na you sabi. You don't just want to agree that chivido2020 wasn't by chance. Chivido2020 is what happens when a real woman meets a rich man. Be a real woman and his heart and resources shall be opened to you. It's not by feminism and gra gra. It pays to be a real woman, it doesn't pay to be a feminist.

#FeministsWillRotInHell
#IHateFeminists
#FeministsAreLowerApes
#FeministsAreScums
#FeministsMustDie
#FeministsWillEatSh!t

liberalchick:
Well, for your one anecdote, I can raise you five of mine. I also have my own stories of fathers badmouthing their wives in front of their kids. No gender has a corner on parental alienation. The lesson here is adults should keep their drama to themselves and leave the kids out of it.

Lol. Women. The op is about mothers who unfairly alienate children from fathers. The lesson is for children to think for themselves.

realtalk19:


How about violent men and men who is not responsible for the child's welfare and believes the mother shuld be the one to take up his responsibility while he squanders his money on irrrelivant things.

Will he be bold enough to to admit he wasn't responsible and couldn't take care of them like a father should?

Will he admit he was violent and irresponsible by always beating up the child's mother who eventually had to leave the marriage for the safety of hersslf and child?

Read the topic from beginning to end. Beside, the topic is about a certain kind of mothers. If you really really want to talk about irresponsible fathers, what's stopping you from creating a topic on that?