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Syncan:
Today fada Kristimas focuses on a group in the Catholic church. Today's question for 1k airtime is this: What group holds the Partrician meeting in the Catholic Church.

The patrician meeting is usually organized by the Legion of Mary for every one.

petra1:
Psalms 22:25 (KJV)
25 My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation:
I will pay my vows before them that fear him.

Mark 12:41 (KJV)
41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.

You failed to see the question, where is God's house today?

How about adding vs26 of that psalm 22 let's see whom the vow was paid to.
[quote author=psalm 22:26]The poor will eat and be satisfied;
those who seek the Lord will praise him—[/quote]The poor needs your money..God doesn't. The other scripture did not say the money was given to God.

petra1:
Simply be humble to say You don’t know or at least say let me find out . Instead of quoting Akwa Ibom tradition you ought to be quoting the scripture . It’s God that called those animals unclean . And if you’re a farmer of such unclean plant or animal . There is option of giving money when you sell them . Invariably money was given in tithing.

Alright Sir,
AkwaIbom was on a lighter note obviously. You should have seen that.

I don't know how unclean animals are paid in tithe. I admit I don't know, tell me please, I would love to learn.

felixomor:
Chai make una come see dumb question....

because we also ressurected with him.....
E dey bible too.....

Swallow your symbolic

You literally were crucified with and ressurected with Jesus?
I was convinced you didn't know the meaning of symbolic and you didn't disappoint. Weldon sir

petra1:
You give it in God’s house . And waka commot either you’re rich or poor you give .

Mark 12:41 (KJV)
41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.

you give to God , you give to the poor , you give to your Neighbour .

You give in God's house yes...where is God's house again? Remind me.

By the way try harder .... It is give in God's house not give money to God. Different things bro...different things.

Peacefullove:
Mtcheew I thought u will bring where it said Romans nailed the Church ?

is the above Real or Symbolic ?

Wow, Kindly declare it boldly that Paul was crucified with Jesus at Golgotha . Pls declare it .

then I will revoke my symbolic. all I see is a desperate man who has been tighten to a corner

You think he knows the meaning of symbolic?

Michellekabod:
I guess it is high time you stop arguing...
It is crystal clear that many have chosen to follow the modus operandi(nominal christian doctrines)
Does comparing paul, a prisoner who lived like a vagabond moving from place to place with no home & frequently held captive and flogged the same with a G.O who has a home, and food to eat?
Paul was given because he was in need, and not because he was their spiritual father.


May God open us to wisdom

Thanks my brother. I don tire self.

petra1:
Who’s teaching you such ? You worship God with offering . Only God receives offering . It’s alms you give the poor . If you have contrary opinion show us from scripture .

Show me where you worship God with money and how you do it apart from giving it to someone in need. Go ahead.

ofai:
YOU ARE CORRRECT. tithing is for the JEWS...who are the Jews? Read ROMANS 2:28-29

Go ahead don't be afraid to drop the quote and make your commentary. We are here to learn.

Jesusgirl92:
So you give offerings to whom? Man? We should be mindful of our words o. I don talk finish.

Yes... Man. Worship that's what you offer to God. Money...you offer to man. Don't mix it up.

ofai:
Now its obvious you are not a sincere enquirer, you are just out to insult the ministry.

Keep your money, no one is begging you for it.

Your opinions are inconsequential. Thank God for divine revelation.

Okay sir..

But where did I miss it, how about correcting me? How did not enquire sincerely. Please help my opinion to be consequential. You can do that.

petra1:
Sorry ma


Sorry ma



Let me ask you a question : How does a dog seller or unclean animal seller give tithe ?

Go to AkwaIbom and tell them that dog is an unclean animal. Let's see how clean you will return.

If it is unclean, then selling it is unclean, earning from it is unclean. The Israelites were asked to eat their tithe....and not to touch unclean animals. How are they supposed to eat the tithe on unclean animal. What lie did your GO tell you bout that?

ofai:
Are you referring only to private jet owners or ministers of God generally? come out straight.

When you give to a true servant of God, you are also giving to God, because the work of the ministry is not all about them, its all about God.

The church ministers in early christianity were taken care of, not just needy members ... Stop isolating the ministers.... Ministerial welfare doesn't stop the pastor from having a part time vocation, but when his attention is needed completely in the church, revelated ministers know that they MUST be completely.taken care of.

Face the materialistic and selfish ministers alone and leave the sincere ones alone. If you can't tithe, leave other willing ones out of your opinion.

Of course not all the pastors are deceiving people into paying tithe. Just the few (or more) that do.

Yes we are talking about the materialistic and selfish ones who dupe people. The willing ones can go ahead and pay to pastors ooo the other set of willing ones can now #TAP. Simple....but let the ministers and comissioners come clean and tell people that it is all about meeting their needs and not portraying the Christian God as needy.

Jesusgirl92:
Hope you don't give offerings in cash that is of course going by your logic.

Yes I give offering in cash, but do I give it (offering) to God? NO. He doesn't spend money.

petra1:
It’s about tax vs giving To God
Tithe and offering is given to God tax is given to Caesar period

Why did you say period.
You don't want to learn? Well since you brought tithe up....tithe was a tax system but never in coins. Howeve, God demands something of you, something that has his image on it just like the coin had the image if Caesar.

Calm down and read.

petra1:
Giving to God could either be cash or kind . So what do you think jesus was talking about

Cash or kind... We are going somewhere.
Jesus said give to ceasar the money because it had Caesar's head and so was Caesar's. Which money had God's head?

felixomor:
Thank God I have used "tithes of all"
Since the beginning of the thread

Continue telling lies to yourself

You win.

petra1:
Yes money and And gift



It’s a choice

Money huh!
Which money was Jesus talking about then? The one that they drew God on? Don't read with the brain of your pastor.

felixomor:
Simple comprehension at test

Was Abraham with spoils when he paid? yes
Was he with other things he had? Yes

Bible says he paid tithes of all

How is that hard for u to understand?

You see your life.

You are lying to yourself by yourself for God. Lolx. You wrote in simple English.... He tithed of his possession WHILE he gave the spoils of war to king if Sodom. How much more dishonest can you get?

petra1:
Tithe is a necessity just as prayer is a necessity and fasting is a necessity but every man still have freewill to do or not to do



To render means to pay

Luke 20:25 (WNT)
25 "Pay therefore," He replied, "what is Caesar's to Caesar--and what is God's to God."

No doubt Sir, to render is to pay.

Was Jesus talking about money? You did not answer? Oh I get it. You only pay money huh!

felixomor:
Pls show me where i said the bolded verbatim
Or is that your own interpretation of what i said?

I am waiting

Sorry if I misquoted you but you have to give me the proper interpretation of the statement below.

Abraham paid tithes of all he had
While The spoils of war were returned to king of sodom

Don't try to be clever by half.

petra1:
That’s greedy men language



There are different kinds of giving . You must do all . Tithes , offering , alms , parents and pay your tax

Luke 20:25
25 And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's.

You must do all...petra1. Who said earlier that tithe is not compulsory. No wahala.

Pray tell how does God need money? And what was referred to in that passage as giving to God what belongs to God. Money?

felixomor:
Go and read the bible well.
"Tithes" was used for a reason
Plural my dear, plural.
He paid from everything he had including spoils of war.

Our priest today is Christ
Called after the order of Melchizedek.
So paying tithe to the body of Christ, is scriptural

Weldon Sir.... But you said earlier that he didn't tithe with spoils of war but returned it to king of Sodom. Weldon Sir.

You really want to pay to the body of Christ? Listen to Christ... "As you give to the LEAST of my brothers..."

petra1:
Don’t say he tithed once . Rather say was recorded once . Everything about them were not on print



It’s a choice . The nitty gritty is not the issue but the principle . Offering belong to God , tithe belong to God , Alms if for the poor

God does not need money...Open your eyes. People need money. It's better given to those who really really need it.

Peacefullove:
Hebrew 7 vs 4

Consider then how great this Melchizedek was. Even Abraham, the great patriarch of Israel, recognized this by giving him a tenth of what he had taken in battle.

Felixomor tenth of what he taken in battle .


Who are the priests today ?

That guy is funny.

felixomor:
Abraham paid tithes of all he had
While The spoils of war were returned to king of sodom

Go and read your bible properly.

Did you write this? This is what your pastor told you?

Read it yourself this time around don't read with someone's brain again.

felixomor:
ehn stand on your straws,
nobody cares.....

At least we are following Abrahams footsteps here.

next

I am sure you are following his footsteps here. So are you really paying tithes from spoils of war? Or did Abraham pay from his possessions? How about the remaining 90% how do you follow Abraham on that still. Abrahamian, how about the willingness to sacrifice your son. I am sure you have that as well.

I thought you were following Jesus...my bad.

felixomor:
U seem to be looking for another floater
I thought u said tithe was for only hungry people...

Keep looking for floating straws.

Meanwhile
We are still waiting for the proof of your accusations

Yes and I still stand on that... If you must tithe..then use it for the poor ones. Not wasting it on rich people.

ofai:
Keep deceiving yourself. How much and how often do you give to the poor and needy even? Hypocrite!

Honestly I haven't given much... But I have challenge myself to help someone start a business no matter how little.

The new testament early church gave all that they had (beyond a tenth) and you are here lamenting over a tenth. Study your scriptures.

Yes Sir, they gave to be shared amongst themselves. Not to Ministers.

Are you being forced to tithe? Why are you so bitter when others willingly tithe? Do you think every pastor is selfish and materialistic?

Am I being forced to tithe? Yes. People are deceived, lied to, and threatened to tithe. Sir, most of them are... The ones who can't move without armed security guards watch out for those ones. They are not just materialistic, the are materials.

Tithing is older than the law. It is not compulsive in the new testament church regardless of its validity.

Really, Tithing on what exactly?

Minister should be taken care of. They are not beggars. How much have you sown into a ministers life? Do you think they don't have bills to pay and families to run? If you don't want to tithe, congrats.... Leave others who willingly choose to.

Well they should come clean and say that they need money and not telling you you are giving to God only to use it satisfy their selfishness. Well, when their bills are paid they create more.. They buy private jets so that you keep maintaining for them. Tell me who did Jesus pay tithe to?

Jalive:
You guys should start this #TAP challenge very fast and start posting pictures for us to see. We really would appreciate it.

Please don't forget the #poor covers:

The destitutes on the street
The beggars which include able bodied men/women without disability who have taken begging as a profession
That your neighbour who cannot afford 3 square meals a day
The real poor people who live in villages and rural areas
That individual who cannot pay his house rent
That individual who cannot pay the school fees of his 9 children
Hospital bill for the sick

These are just few, you can add more to the list.

Thanks bro..the list goes on and on. A little can do much more.

felixomor:
Its obvious u have no proof.
Keep swimming bra


Just as u also used ego to buy a car when pple around u trek.
Hypocrisy is killing u softly




Says the person who gave the word tithe his own meaning.
Hiieuuu




Stop making noise.
Abraham didnt pay tithe to a poor man
You keep demonstrating ignorance of scripture

Abraham didn't pay tithe to a poor man? From what did Abraham pay tithe and what did he do with the remaining 90%? Have u bothered to check?
I never gave tithe any meaning... You were the one who defined it and I went with your definition. Now who is a liar?

I wouldn't collect charity money to buy a car when people are trekking, if I do then you defined me well... A hypocrite. So now u know what your Daddy GO is right?

Help me with the name of the multinationals that can buy 4 private jets for one GO

ofai:
Tithing is SCRIPTURAL. Ministers of God shouldn't be categorized "poor and needy". The poor and needy have voluntary contributions made for them too. Tithes is a voluntary contribution made for church minister's welfare.

This is the lie we are asking people to unlearn.
Tithe is for church minister's welfare.
First fruit is for church minister's welfare.
Offering is for church minister's welfare.
Harvest Thanksgiving is for church minister's welfare.
Stickers and holy oil are for church member's welfare.

Make we open our eyes.

There is no single biblical backing for Christian tithing. Tithing is for the Jews and Jews alone. Even Jews of today don't tithe because there is no temple anymore. It is now you a who claim not to be under the law that the law of tithing is bound.

Muru anya o.
Use that 10% to reduce the number of poor people in Nigeria. Glad u know ministers if God are not poor and lazy. They are wise toiling day and night on how to twist the bible to suite their selfish agenda. Where did they get tithe is for the minister's welfare from?

Abeg #TAP