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KingEbukasBlog:

You see? I am on your side. You shouldn't avoid my questions.

KingEbukasBlog:
Bill Gate is not an atheist . He is a Christian . I read somewhere that he is a devout Catholic now .

Catholics are christians in such contexts as this.... apart from that. They are demons.

KingEbukasBlog:
When you are in a communist country , you are expected to pledge allegiance to the Marxist-Leninist ideology as your nation's guiding principle - that means atheism is imposed . Belief in God is not tolerated especially in religion .

So President Jose who may have been born with that atheist idea since Uruguay has been with communism for a long time before it ended just before he became president .

I don't think he became an atheist from a personal choice , its more of his environment , his milieu that influenced him . The "God idea" in religion is not tolerated in communism . And there are communist parties that make being an atheist a prerequisite for becoming a member .

He may believe in God privately but appears to be an atheist or declares to be one because of the country or politics in the country or rejection of religion in which the belief in God has been mistaken to be an integral part .

That's why I said it is arguable .

You dig ?

A Nigerian President may have a dis -believe in God privately but appears to be a Christian or Muslim or declares to be one because of the country or politics in the country or general acceptance of religion in which the belief in God has been mistaken to be an integral part .

NB: I am no atheist.

KingEbukasBlog:
I put religion in quotes there

'Not' is also in quotes... whatever that means.

damogul:
He put Religion in brackets there for the sake of the discussion because the other side sees it as a religion

Exactly... I also put the 'not' in quote to fit into the discussion.

KingEbukasBlog:
Christianity is a 'religion' of love . There are so many Christian organisations in poor countries helping these poor people - trying to provide respite to the adversity they face .

There are so many Christians who have pledged to help the poor through out their lives . That is what Christ preached .

Help the poor .
Don't let the rich oppress the poor
Those in prison visit them
Love even your enemies and do good to them who hate you

I read on DailyMail yesterday or so about kids who burned down a G -Wagon and flushed down a Rolex watch - total price is 88K pounds - while people can't find food to eat

If you have money to waste , why not give to charity and fund those Christian organizations in these poor countries . Christ commanded us to do these things .

Christianity is 'not' a religion.

felixomor:
How can i be happy.
U think my joy is to see pple behave so?

How am I supposed to know?

felixomor:
Then you lied.
U no dey sing for church.

Ok.

Happy now?

KingEbukasBlog:
I explained the conclusion of the whole matter according to the Preacher . I'm not sure why you want me to explain every single verse .

The simple explanation is : There is no meaning in life without God .

Oga,

I am not asking that you explain anything, I only asked if the passage matched your conclusion.

felixomor:
U will only add to the problem.

because ur "church" is looking like a Fairytale. If u cant tell me its name.

Meaning, your problem can't be solved.

KingEbukasBlog:
It simply means in all that you do , fear God and keep his commandments .

Sir

Read this passage and give it this your conclusion above.

17 So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind. 18 I hated all the things I had toiled for under the sun, because I must leave them to the one who comes after me. 19 And who knows whether that person will be wise or foolish? Yet they will have control over all the fruit of my toil into which I have poured my effort and skill under the sun. This too is meaningless. 20 So my heart began to despair over all my toilsome labor under the sun. 21 For a person may labor with wisdom, knowledge and skill, and then they must leave all they own to another who has not toiled for it. This too is meaningless and a great misfortune. 22 What do people get for all the toil and anxious striving with which they labor under the sun? 23 All their days their work is grief and pain; even at night their minds do not rest. This too is meaningless. 24 A person can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in their own toil. This too, I see, is from the hand of God, 25 for without him, who can eat or find enjoyment? 26 To the person who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

This too is meanigless... what does this too here refer to?

felixomor:
Both
Everything.

Ok. How can I solve your problem by singing the song or telling you the name of the church?

felixomor:
Please which church did u pple used to sing "you will die tomorrow"?

Whats the name of the church?

And its making life all about gathering Riches thats vanity, not life itself.

What is the problem here.... the song or the church?

KingEbukasBlog:
That is not what that verse means .

It means that life without God has no purpose or meaning .

Because if you look at subsequent verses the preacher attempted finding meaning to life through discovery , wisdom , alcohol , different philosophies , architecture , luxurious life , personal pleasure , unbridled lusts , riches and glory etc .

Then he now came to Ecclesiastes 12:13 and said “Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.”

It just epitomizes the true meaning of life as a human . Without God life is meaningless - your toil , suffering , riches , discoveries , they do not make any sense if you perish after God's judgement .

And this is from the wisest man known in History - Solomon had written over 3000 Proverbs .

Thanks so much Mr. Ebuka.

So, it means that one who lives without God has a purposeless life but one who lives with God a purposeful life. And this purpose according to you is simply to "Fear God and Keep His commandments" What a purpose! A man with God who has a purpose therefore should neither work nor labour for all he needs will be provided to him by God through the sweat of those who live without God Ecc2:17-25-26 ...Then everything is meaningless. So what are we saying?

damogul:
Balance solomons comment with LOVE NOT THE WORLD, NEITHER THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD FOR THOSE THAT LOVE THE WORLD DO NOT LOVE GOD.

Its still talking about greed and selfishness. THE WORLD means the content, the goods, the wealth for THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL..

However we have been commanded to love men and humanity as those are the truly valuable ones which was why the bible says WHAT SHALL IT PROFIT A MAN IF HE GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSES HIS SOUL.

Sir,

we are saying the same thing if you hate the world and everything in it, you hate life. That is the purposelessness of life.

WHAT SHALL IT PROFIT A MAN IF HE GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSES HIS SOUL.

Meaning... it shall profit a man a whole lot if he looses (better decides to loose) the whole world to gain his soul. Life in the world is useless and not to be cherished even you confirms it.

damogul:
I do not think you know what you are talking about.

Someone made that same statement and it is being blown out of proportion, and here you are trying to explain to me what "Everything is vanity means".

I am not an atheist, but sometimes we castigate others for the same thing we do.

damogul:
The bolded means "DO NOT WORRY OR DO NOT DESPAIR"

The song simply lets you know that you are in the world but not of the world so do not get too attached to it. Play your part by adding value to everything and everyone for the sake of your final destination.

Solomons comment about vanity upon vanity is a warning against greed and selfishness.

It is the same thing. It says we are useless in the world but useful in the afterlife.

Solo said "Everything is vanity"

felixomor:
Which sense of humanity does atheism have?

When even some atheists here on NL believe life is meaningless?
When they believe morality is subjective?

Have u not read such posts before?

Abeg save us a call the humanity talk.

Methinks christians believe life is meaningless too.

Back then in church we used to sing .... this might be the last time that we shall meet again, we live today and tomorrow we die, what is is the meaning of life?

And then we have Ecc 1: 2/14 "Vanity upon vanity..."

"Be careful for nothing... "says Jesus. IOW you can be careless for everything, what does it matter?

krattoss:
my laptop doesn't detect my infinix hot 4 when I connect it with USB.. but it detects when I put it on (ptp) picture mode or midi mode.. but when I change it to transfer file mode.. it doesn't detect again.. meanwhile it also detects other phone..


what might be the cause..?

I don't know the cause but... your laptop no be pentium no no no na celeron you buy ... oga maga never pay

ekiti

Buhari dey tyrant

sonOfLucifer:
just posted a solution
http://pastebin.com/WrTW4Tgh

That should work. Try it out and let me know.

Good attempt though. You just need to brush up a bit on functions and variables. I'll be posting a lesson on that soon.

Adikwa m loyal o.


Thanks a whole lot. You just made the whole stuff appear simple. Thanks looking forward to your next upload.

How about paying you a visit one of these days? But not as sonoflucifer o unless you trim your horns a bit, I am easily scared. Thanks all the same onyenkuzi.

sonOfLucifer:
hi rejosom, just uploaded a new lesson. Did your guessing program run btw?

O yeah boss,

My game ran.... only that I want to love-vendor it a bit. First I want to do a GUI format and then make it more interactive, whereby the player's points will be stored even when he or she quits the game. Again i want the player to choose the range of numbers he por she wants to guess, the higher the range, the bigger the points. Been a bit lazy to improve on that. I also have some other programs I have written so far.

Boss, thanks.

maupe:
http://www.punchng.com/alleged-n11bn-withdrawal-agf-orders-efcc-probe-rivers-director/

Why always Zenith?

Taryur3:
Witch hunting...Amechi too should be probe.Wike is working and I think he can defend himself...what type of nonsense is this with APC family.this is how they will probe till the next 3yrs without any achievement.

Take a deep breath.

Relaxed?

It's well.

Brigance:
if there's anything that is omnipresent, it might just be matter . . .

if there's anything that is omnipotent, it might just be energy . .

if there's anything that is omniscient, it might just be nature . . .

if there's any god, it might just be us . . .

We are energy...
We are nature...
We are God.

Everything that there is is energy... energy begets matter when light is factored in according to Einstein (E =MC²).

johnydon22:
...

God is everything and everything is God, we are part of God.. A Oneness of all and a difference in this Oneness..

I am with you on this.

Omoluabi16:
Why the multiplicity? because each denomination have their own understanding/interpretation of the bible and Christian standards. However therr is only one God, and there will be only ine Judgement. Then why do you belong to ur denomination? Because ur parents/friends attend there? because ur pressured not to leave? abi cos its mode of operating is more convenient for u? These are pertinent questions you should ask yourself..but most importantly are they strictly structured as the God's words says? As for me, I go to my church because It is in line with what God expects us to do.Others may disagree with my views, as I disagree with the Catholic system. Salvation is a personal thing, but its very glaring that purgatory, ur mode of prayers, and ur honour of Mary has no biblical basis.




Sorry I threatened to sl@p you...im just a big bad bully.. lol

Exactly what I am thinking.

People understand these religious books based on their own interpretations and misinterpretations as the case may be. Obviously, these interpretations more often than not are biased by a number of factors including training, traditions , beliefs, cultures, convictions, circumstances and even the words of people we 'trust'.

So, why then do we base our treatment of others on a religious book that is open to misinterpretations?

Now you are reading my mind about why I am a Catholic today. But, I will take it a little further.

Then why am I a Christian? Because my parents/friends are Christians? Because I was born in the Eastern Nigeria? because I'm being pressured not to leave? abi cos it's mode of operating is most convenient for me?

Again, Why do I believe that the bible is the word of God? Because I was told? Because it's contents are more convincing than other religious books? Because I'm being pressured to hold on to it?

These are pertinent questions I am asking myself on this thread... but most importantly how do I know what God's words says without telling someone else to write to me or tell me?

I am glad you are okay with your church, keep it up. But more importantly let's learn to live peacefully amongst people who don't share our belief and convictions.

Finally, I understand your stand on the catholic doctrines, Sometimes too I question some of them but there are still a whole of doctrines practiced by EVERY Christian denomination that are controversial just like purgatory, mode of prayer and honor of Mary. Think about trinity, hell, tithe, women preachers, faith alone and work alone, bible versions and revisions, old testament laws (to be or not to be), Modes of prayer and the list goes on and on. So, you see there are more controversies that we share, and I suppose we try to strengthen the ties rather that widen the gaps.

Thanks.

Omoluabi16:
I will Sl@p you boy. as a Christian, you have the ability to rationalize issues concerning your faith. I don't want to condemn, but I think I have one or two things against the Catholic belief.

Oga abeg no slap me.

Well, that is exactly what I am...trying to make sense of these intra-Christian fights. I see it as a pointer to something. ... something the church fathers won't tell us. I'm no longer interested in knowing who is right or wrong between the numerous Christian denominations and between Christians and numerous other religions. I only want to know why. Why the multiplicity?

urahara:
U would always see non catholics as lost and non catholics wand always see u as lost as well.

Op all i can say is.......





.....!......... Keep pondering

Well, personally I don't see anybody as lost, only see people as having different views of the same thing. Though I must admit that most times our views are shaped by a number of factors, yet they remain what they are views. There are more things that connects us than there see that separate us, I always want to look out for the former.

Lolx..... it's my right to ponder o and I come get the ability to. 'what if..'.

Nna Mehnnnnnn

Mr.

sonOfLucifer:
hi rejosom, gone through the new tutorials? Waiting for feedback. THanks.

Boss,

I have gone through lesson 5 and as usual it was great. Patiently waiting for the next updates. Keep up the good work boss, I so much gbedu your teaching method. (No excuse not to understand).

Here is a game I wrote based on a program you wrote for someone on this forum. (Please, ignore the indentation issues)

#This is myGuessGame using Python.
#Shout out to onyenkuzi.com (Mr. SoL)! Lolz
import random

print('Welcome to myGuessGame, What is your name?')
print()
player = input()

print ('Hello '+player+', I am thinking of a number between 1 and 15')
print()
print('Can you guess my number in five trials?')
print()
respond = input()
print()
if respond == 'yes' or respond == 'y':
print("Good, Let's start"
trials = 0
number = random.randint(1,15)

while trials < 5:
print('Take a guess: ')
print()

guess = int (input())

trials = trials+1

if guess < number:
print('Your Guess is LOW, try a higher number')

if guess > number:
print('Your Guess is HIGH, try a lower number')

if guess == number:
break

if guess == number:
points = (6 - trials)*20
trials = str(trials)
points = str(points)
print('Congratulations '+player+ ',' 'YOU WON!!!. You guessed my number in ' +trials+' Trials')
print()
print ('Your score is '+points+'%')

if guess != number:
number = str(number)
print ('Sorry ' +player+','' YOU LOST. The correct number is'+number)


elif respond != 'Yes' or respond != 'y':
print ('THANK YOU, SEE YOU NEXT TIME')

Your response will be appreciated.