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Evil brain

So was Abacha, by the way, but he was junior even to IBB.

I think IBB's main talent is picking the right side in any conflict. Like I said before, he was involved in all the successful coups and none of the failed ones. He even played a major role in foiling the 1976 coup (the one that killed Murtala) when he confronted one of the plotters (I think it was Dinka but I'm not sure) who had gone to make the coup announcement at FRSC

Change your name to dead brain. Ibb never stopped any coup in 1976. Which Nigeria are you from I suppose it is planet mars. He went to FRCN to meet dimka and Dimka pointed a rifle at him and they talked and IBB went back. I believed he was a Lt colonel then. Buka Suka Dimka was caught at the border town town dressed like a mad man. He was executed after a court martial.

Thank God there are some Homo sapiens Sapiens here. God let the Sahelanthropus tchadensis not find this discussion.


I believe every Theory of economics is workable. The platform in which any economic theory should work is Honesty and fear of God.

You dont need to predict a foolish man. A stereotype is 100% predictable. Nigerians living in their tribal cave, no matter illiterate or literate are still Stoneageian. If we could just start think like the middle ages. Take for instance how some of us look at the innitial poster and answer him. If we agree that the innitial poster was a Homo neanderthalensis then let us look at ourselves the "civilized". I think we are worse our brains are that of the Sahelanthropus tchadensis.

Humans are noted for their desire to understand and influence their environment, seeking to explain and manipulate phenomena through science, philosophy, mythology and religion. Some Nigerians on Nairaland are seemingly begging God to remove their brains to the extent that they only see people through other people eyes. Let us use our brains.

Let me Educate you on one thing OBJ did I dont still understand today.  This is what brings the milltary into some sanity.

Abacha's son Muhamed dealt ruthlessly with OBJ for Four Freaking years in a Military cell Obasanjo was flogged for years kept in solitary confinement. I know soldiers very well they hate humiliation.

Years later I see with my 2 eyes OBJ as the commander in Chief presenting the Flag to Abacha son. I know the presentation of Flag is one of the Highest honor given to any soldier Alive or dead. Ok you think it was a Joke

Just tell them to lock you up for one month and every morning given a drill with a cocktail of Japanese torture then come back and hala at me that you would do the same to the same person that made sure you were ridiculed for 4years.


Imagine denigrating a General of Practical battle.

Truly

You dont know shit about the military so shut up and you dont know nothing about OBJ.

@truly

You are a bloody liar who caught dimka? You have been reading rubish or you have been reading through your anus. Dimka was never captured by that idiot called IBB. I will never tell you because you are a scallywag.

Show me the money Obj stole

Ferari90

You or the Kulikuli should take a Job in military Indoctrination. I am clapping for you here. very good Job but sorry it will not lai lai. Go and tell your master that he will have his followers not me.

I have been monitoring your horde of Ibb Apologetics.

These are the Agents of Traditiofascist parasitic Elite. You cant blame them. They have been brainwashed and all they need now is for their brains to be surgically removed. We have them in all tribes both big and small.

Some have Nightmares of other Tribes because of the degree of Brain washing.

Good but we shall wait for the Price per unit

@Olafolarin
OBJ is still the poorest Nigerian President, where is the loot. He spent money On Energy ask why Goodluck and Yaradua are afraid of putting a cent in Nigerian power project.

Go and Check the people involved in Petrol oil lifting? Go and Check out how much is paid to the oil marketers. Go and check out who is chopping the money spent on Subsidy? Go and check how much money was released to the Governors and what they use the money for. Governors are so rich that you wonder.

Go and look for any account with billions that bears OBJ names I will withdraw anything I have said. There must be somebody that saw him steal the money. There must be somebody that OBJ cooperated with him. There must be a friend that did it with him.

Just tell me or name one very Good Friend of OBJ who really is OBJ's Friend. Its is the Hatred of the Yoruba Parasitic Elite. The theiving Yoruba elite that only see leading a country as a Chieftancy title. Thanks to God for continous weakening of the Fascist elitist Yoruba Hegemon. We in the New Nigeria must do away with criminal tribalistic tendencies.

God Bless Nigeria

You guys are Jokers.

To go against IBB you need a man Like OBJ. Forget about politics of tribe (i know that will be hard because IBB thrives in this type of politics). IBB has massive support of theiving Generals. The "Oil Generals" really suffered under OBJ. People that say Obj brought Nigeria back are probably right because the Generals lost out from oil money and so did their followers. Hence they started to use gorrilla war fare to have control of the oil. Go and check who trained your so called militants. Go and Check who gives them very EXACT Intel.

I have the view that to fight against evil people you cant be passive. I remember when OBJ give power to civillians back in the 80s he took a stand of non interference. All the money he saved the politicians squandered it. The soldiers in the barracks saw this and decided that they must intervene. I remember former president of one of the southern Africa saying to OBJ not to reliquinsh power to the Civillian. some "Yoruba"(I mean the Parasitic elite yoruba) dont like OBJ because of AWO. People said because AWO said he will investigate the Military(very laughable). Ask yourself the question how many days did OBJ stay in power then. Awo was a tribal politician that was involved in the planned creation of Oduduwa State. The war that OBJ had just finishing fighting had AWO innitially in it. Awo was a politician and one of the mistake Ojukwu made was to Play war Ally with a Politician. It had nothing to do with the YORUBA being cowards.

I know that Jonathan is still a Good President but if he is to Lead us we need him very strong. He needs OBJ behind him because there are still reminants of POLITICAL SOLDIERS IN THE ARMY.

@Afrika

The so called North you are talking about was cleansed of brilliant soldiers in the days of Ibb. Those he could not kill he made "friends" with. Vatssa had following but thought of IBB as a brother.

If you want know the composition of the army and how Ibb Divided them read below

1) Non combat soldiers
mostly from the southern parts of Nigerian: This type of people were either involved in Intelligence works and Administration. Ibb made sure that this people were busy. Alot of Nigerian Generals were involved in all kinds of criminal activies and Oil business.

2)Combat Soldiers (this the real army) This is divided into 2.
Majority from the middle belt and the north: Ibb made sure that this group were running the army and he allowed disrespect to flow freely from the junior officers to the senior. The Army suffered seriuos mind coup detat. The Army that was trained not to fear began seeing everyone as threat.

whilst he was doing this he busied the financier of coups.,.,.,.,.,., the elite civillian ,.,.,,, ,, He made sure that politicians were busy. The populace he made sure they started to grab and grab, with the principle of Chop I Chop. This is were tribalism thrived.
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@ferari90 and Babangida


You are either a hardhearted lunatic or criminally deranged slowpoke, Tell you why, I believe that any man knows the devil will tell you there is a similitude with him and Babangida. I know northerners and sometimes I find it difficult believe that Babangida had anything to do with the North. Babangida comes off as a typical well trained criminal from the south of Nigeria. We now see that a man is not made from where he was born but where he passes through.

Babangida sins are numerous and the fact that he is unrepentant has made me to think that the deception in his heart has seriously taken control of him and will kill him very soon. I am very confident that the Blood of Major General Maman Vatsa and all the people he killed is now ready to kill Babangida.

Babangida I know it looks like you think you are smarter and since you left power you can easily get back into the theiving Machinery that you created in your 8years rule. In your years the Army was Hungry ( I lived in the Barracks) so soldiers were forced to be corrupt. You remember Babangida how you dragged your fellow generals on the ground infront of JUNIOR OFFICERS! ah I feel so sad remembering. You made a mockery of the chain of Command. You cooked all types of Mafia stories in the army and brain washed the people. I remember the so called KADUNA MAFIA. You played everybody against each other. The only person that you could not touch was ABACHA because he had his own men. You tried to coach Abacha but God killed him. Are you not tired?

I know there is an ARMY of 419 and yahoo yahoo boys that love your reign they are here on Nairaland to deceive you so that they can take us back to your days. I tell you dont try it. Try and make peace with the people whose families you have killed and wait for your death.

You disgraced Nigeria you killed young men that wanted to fight for the nation. No wonder we have hungry men as citizen that complain and cant build. You tried ti institute tribalsim in the army. You killed men that were loyal to you. Babngida Cleanse your self before you meet your maker.

Just listened to it. Babangida is a wicked man. He brought shame to the Armed forces of Nigeria.

I feel very bad for the wife and Kids.

We now see that when you(civillian) kill a soldier so many peoples Lives are Affected and their fellow soldiers will have to face the families. Babangida was no Soldier, Babangida has had the ambition since The coup plotting of BUKA SUKA DIMKA.

With Vatsa he wanted to recreate Bisalla and Muritala encounter. Every one and anyone can be sacrificed to IBB even the whole Nigeria can rot in Hell IBB does not care.

@Ferari

Snakes have intelligence if you can live with a snake for one day in a room please just post the videos I will support him.

Bluetooth you just should have waited for the remaining part

, if he is running for the president of Kirikiri Republic

I support IBB for Presidency

To solve Nigeria's Problem we must begin to think Locally.

I sometimes think Nigerians still feel that we are still practicing a UNITARY type of Government. The truth of the matter is that The state Government are getting away it alot of what they do because the Federal government is still focused on as the object rule, but we know for a fact that some states are paid derivatives and yet still they go for loans and the state is still underdeveloped.

The governors are just milking the state and they point to the Federal government. It is looking like there is more free money to steal in the states than in the federal government.

The states is where the real battle is.

^^^^ read your history well christianity has been in Africa for over 2000 years.

hmmmmm

Just a simple camera Recording and journalistic investigation can kill this. but you know the answer already instead of Journalists that are supposed to be the 3rd realm of government we have BLACKMAILERS.

The federal goverment releases the money but it does not get to the masses.

THE NYSC should be infused with the Military.

@post

We now see that the civil service are the real problem, If you dont allow them to eat your name will be in the News for all kind of things. This is looking like the wrong time to be the President of Nigeria.

No the police is not clueless the people the citizens are the ones clueless. The police have arrest code. When they fail to use the code? the citizens should sue the police force. The people make the police.

Alot of Criminals get away with crime because the police dont use simple policing methods.

If i were the musician I would just sue the Nigerian police, but guess what would happen the same people would beg on behalf of the police, even traditional leaders will be called in to reinforce the begging.

@post and posters

I am warning Sanusi, he should never talk smile or even shake anyone in public because he is the governor.

em sorry I forgot if he dares farts or goofs in public he should be sacked.

Obj without due process and budgetary approval mobilised contractors to start work on Abuja stadium
How much did the project cost us
Obj said Atiku got a friend to front for him to buy AP; Atiku denied it, Obj continued to insist
Meanwhile, Obj was buying shares in Transcorp

Same old Transcorp BS Lies go and check who owns transcorp

Obj hated corruption so much that he started bribing legislators to amend the constitution to allow a 3rd term

I doubt If OBJ gave anyone 50 Naira or even 5 naira. You forgotten that the innitial problem he had with the NASS was that they wanted more money. The NASS Over inflates the budgets by over several hundred percent. Ask Yaradua his experiences.

He knew Yaradua was sick, but continued to say that electing him (Yaradua) was a do-or-die affair. Why?

Yes the same way he knows you are sick

Without legislative approval, he signed away Bakassi

Hey Bakassi was never Nigeria's

The Federal government had enough evidence to nail Makanjuola - Obj's cousin - for corruption
Suddenly Obj' Justice Minister - Kanu Agabi - withdrew the case from court via a nolle prosequi

Yes Obasanjo was the one that put a gun in the head of a Judge for him to put a PERPERTUAL INJUNCTION ON A CASE INVOLVING A GOVERNOR. If you know Obj well if you his close relative you know he has the "I Know send you posture"

He harrases legislators for being corrupt, but his daughter is one of them.
When his daughter was being sought by EFCC for the Health Ministry scam, did he speak the truth by asking Iyabo to show up? No he did not

When others were being looked for did he go publicly to say they should show up? Please use your brains not your legs.

He always accused Atiku of corruption, but when the chips were down
we saw a cheques on PTDF account in favour of ladies, and companies related to Obj
Obj gave the contract for incorporation of Galaxy backbone to his friend and lawyer, Afe Babalola. That job cost all of us N250m - for just 1 company

When were the Chips down? Drink pure water abeg. If OBJ was a thief and ATIKU was a Theif why were they not agreeing to steal queitly? School me CONTRACT FOR INCORPORATION? That investment is the best investment that hass ever happened to Nigeria

my DISDAIN for Obj grows in leaps and bounds daily. Whatever the expectations of people, he only speaks partial truth.
I cannot imagine the likes of IBB, Atiku or Tinubu being as hypocritical as an Obj railing against corruption whilst being enmeshed in it

Says who?

You will reacall that when Obj was carrying on about corruption and disqualifying every body in 2007, IBB just pointed out cooly
that Obj's administration was not not saintly
Of course, Obj kept quiet

I can also point to you that you just escaped from Kirikiri

And don't forget his fray with Orji Kalu
Orji Kalu said that Obj could not accuse of stealing that he had mkney before coming into government
and that he donated N100m to Obj's campaign
Obj said that Kalu donated the money to PDP
Kalue countered that the cheque was cleared through Obj' account
Obj kept quiet

Very easy I can claim anything with no singular proof. You can get anything Forged

@TruLiely

Obj caused the problem
Shortly after taking power in 1999, Obj had a confrontation with the NASS
Obj had just taken some actions that people liked
The public clearly sided with Obj and it was not difficult for him to face down the NASS then

Which actions please?

But when he started sliding, the NASS regained relevance and close to the end of his 1st term NASS began a very serious impeachment process
Had Obj remained focussed on performance and becoming a statesman, the NASS could not have touched him at anytime

When did he start to Slide? Ah you are so disgusting .,, ,,.,.,.,,.,,., Statesmanship should go to hell

I see his main problem as the need to refer things to NASS for approval
An egoistic dictator finds that hard to take

He now is a dictator really? The NASS has criminal giants. You take a budget to the Assembly they inflate to high heavens. Yaradua had this problem the SAME NASS SAID HE WAS SLOW. KEEP DECEIVING YOURSELF TRULIE.

@becomrich

You should pull your head out of your a.5s, s and start talking to us normally because I think your as5shole is choking your neck and no oxygen to your brains.

@Abagworo

The oil Economy started moving when the locals teamed up with the Generals and started attacking the oil companies. The kind of intel and logistic those guys get it is only the military Intelligence can give.

On the military Issue that is a different issue he never ordered any strike on any Village. If you carry a gun, wore a helmet and a green uniform trained in the bushes to defend the sovereignty of those that pay the taxes that feeds you the soldier only for that same civillian polpulation to KILL THE SOLDIER. THE SOLDIER WAS TRAINED TO DODGE AND SHOOT BULLETS ON THE BEHALF THE CITIZEN.

THE SOLDIER IS TO SHOOT WHEN FIRED UPON YOU DONT NEED A WRITTEN ORDER. SOME OF THE SOLDIERS HAVE EXPERIENCED WAR FOR YEARS AND SURVIVED ONLY TO BE KILLED BY CIVILLIANS.

@aloyemeka

I guess OP meant to say detribalized and not diatribalized.

Anyway: OAM4J, do you think Obasanjo would have bombed Egbaland the way he sent troops to bomb Ijaws living quietly in Odi village?. Detribalized Nigerian ko, Obasanjo ni.

Keep deceiveing yourself

The military is the soverign of Nigeria when you attack a single soldier you attack Nigeria. There have been attacks on the army where their bodies were dragged on the streets in benue, The army retaliated killing all men in that community.When army and police fight people are happy but when army and civilians fight It becomes the issue of the president.


Ife and modakeke how many soldiers were killed? the fight was between 2 groups nobody was fighting the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

@becomerich

Typical of the tribal Bigots

A man that is put in office stops being a yoruba Igbo, Hausa man when he gets to the presidency. He is the Commander in chief of the Armed forces of Nigeria. This is why Obj is very much hated amongst the Parasitic ELITE of his tribe.

Obj dealt mercilessly with "Yoruba". He used theives to get thieves. He dealt ruthlessly with his house hold, that there was a time it got so muddy that Obj was said to have shouted thief on his son openly. I was not surprised when his son claimed he slept with his wife. The fight of corruption is a bitter one be ready to loose alot even your life.

Those that Know OBJ very well will tell you wether you were sure he REALLY offered you 50 naira and not the 50 million. Obj is very rigid with some things. Go and ask some university students.

@wales

David Mark, my grandfather and father did not do NYSC and they were one of the most disciplined souls in that ever lived. Mark’s thinking is very very shallow. The lack of discipline has so many facets that CANNOT be solved by NYSC. In fact abolishing NYSC might be a better option, it has not achieved its purpose after 37 years and truth be told, it cannot!

Typical of the children of the parasitic Elites. Ask for just a little service they Go back into History,

Go and look at some of the post on Nairaland the same "YOUR GRANDFATHERS AND FATHERS" people are callling that they should be killed. some even Conclude unless blood of the old men be spilled Nigeria would not be free.

The type of Discipline you get in military training has very little Morality. Mark was not talking about Moral discipline.

I propose that it should be 2 years and one should be served before you get into the university the both years should be military training on a military base.