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Udozeal:
Oga, what are you on...? Cos basically you didn't even drive any point home.

I trying to show people that religion has described Jesus wrongly to the world. The world knows about Jesus one way or the other. Different views about Jesus and God His father. So i want tell the world that to understand and know God,you must first know Jesus because He is the only way to God .
And how can you know Jesus? It is by following Him,being His disciple.
And how can you be His disciple? It is by believing and continiuing in His words and teachings.
So where is His words so that i can believe? They are the gospels i.e matthew,mark,luke and john.
Why not the whole bible,why matthew,mark,luke and john? They are the true accounts of Jesus life,teachings. They are the only source that are reliable. God in His wisdom actually preserved it in the bible(combinations of books by different writers)

Contextual
reading,matthew 18 was saying the basis
for gathering is to settle agreements and
not for worship. Have you asked yourself
this question,why do Jesus excuse Himself
from His disciples to pray? If you watch Jesus life closely,He
does what the teaches anytime anyday. That is who i am following And He is the one i love talking about. I am what i preach about.

[quote author=cckris post=44040683][color=#990000][b]Ok. We both believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah, Christ in Greek.
Perhaps we may not both agree that When two or three come together in His name, He is actively present. And when they agree on anything, he grants the request'. Church MUST be a group. An individual cannot be a Church, which Jesus is building up so powerfully that no counsel, or gate of hell can defeat. That's what has been for the past two millenia, & counting. Without any cenContextual reading,matthew 18 was saying the basis for gathering is to settle agreements and not for worship. Have you asked yourself this question,why do Jesus excuse Himself from His disciples to pray?

Empiree:
What do you consider yourself religion wise?

No. I am not religious wise. I dont do religion,i teach against it with passion because religion can not lead to God. Only Jesus can. For your information,i am not a christian,i am disciple of Jesus

All religions f the world have different views or perspective about Jesus. Jesus is the only truth. He is the way to God,the truth and life know one comes to the Father(GOD)
CHRISTIANITY they believe Jesus came to die for the sins of the world. It is a big lie. Jesus said in Matthew 20:28 He cam to give His life as ransome to many. They believe Jesus gave His life as sacrifice but Jesus said He gave His life as ransome. We all know ransome is not the same as sacrifice. How to get your sins forgiven is by believing God and His son jesus and then forgive others that needs your forgiveness and God will will forgive you.
JUDAISM they believe that Jesus is not the messiah because He did not fulfil any of the messianic prophecies in the Tanakh. This a lie. Jesus is the messiah,He came from God to do His will by bringing the kingdom of God. He actually fulfilled prophesies
ISLAM they believe Jesus was a mssenger of God and not the son of God. This is a lie. Jesus is the son of God. He said He and the father are one. United in purpose and thoughts and deeds
Jesus is calling unto you to come unto Him. He alne can show the way to God,He alone can teach you the truth not religion. Learn more about Jesus by reading and studying MATTHEW,MARK,LUKE AND JOHN

PastorAIO:
Please, concerning covenants, does it follow that the establishment of one covenant automatically mean the abrogation of any previous covenants.

Abeg don't yab me o, I'm only asking a question.

Yeah! You are correct,they claimed to be under a new covenant whereas still observing the old covenant eg. Payment of tithes and offering,going to temple on sabbaths. I call Christianity modern judaism that believes Jesus as the messiah whereas they continue jewish customs

gimakon:
Blah blah blah... o wait do I not follow my Jesus? well yes I do Satisfied?

Fact "they don't follow Jesus" doesn't mean I don't know who I follow. I'm ok as a bachelor, who did it , God did, Jesus did. The word did.

I don't know what you talking about, but for me I gotta thank God everyday, and not being shallow minded. I am a very proud christian, a wealthy one by his grace so why would I Wonna leave christendom.... No way!

Part of your beliefs that are wrong includes
The bible is the inspired word of God. This is very wrong. Jesus is the only word of Gog. In this supposed bible,God spoke,the devil spoke,men spoke,even demon spoke. Ho w then you call it the word of God
you believe that Jesus came to die for the sign of the whole world. It is very wrong. He said He came to give His life as ransome to many not sacrifice for many. He said if you dont forgive those that sin against you,your heavenly father will not forgive,that is the way to get your sins forgiven

orisa37:
Christ is The Light, The Goodness and The Life of the world. Everything in Heaven and on Earth is Christ. So Christ is THE EPISTLES, THE GOSPELS, THE DISCIPLES, THE APOSTLES AND YOU AND I.

Christ is not the epistles ooo. The epistles consists f pauline epistles(the false apostle that claimed he met the resurrected Jesus) and other writers include James the brother of Jesus that did not believe in Jesus ministry before His death

cckris:
I understand that people can be discouraged by leaders who make MERCHANDISE of the flock. Jeremiah 23 & Ezekiel 13 describe it as if they were writing today. That's why God says things before they occur, that we may know there's no other as accurate. I've seen worse, & STILL SEEING painful experiences, but Jesus said OCCUPY. But how can you OCCUPY if you're not prepared to OVERCOME. Running away is not ALWAYS the best option.

I did not run away am not asking you to run away. Jesus said in John 8:31-32 Jesus said if you continue in MY WORDS AND TEACHINGS THEN YOU ARE DISCIPLES. All i am saying is to believe in the words of Jesus only not the bible. God actually preserved the words of Jesus(in matthew,mark,luke and john) in the bible. I am saying believe in Jesus words and dont make excuses like christians do. I will love you to open your minds and eyes when you read the gospels,the Holy ghost is ever ready to teach and guide you

gimakon:
We lucky your royal ignorance didn't say it was moohamed who was the founder of Christianity. Islam reads the bible as a novel so what do you want to understand there? Save us the flimsy excuse of a super heavy weight crap you call a research,we don't need it.
Let the screenshot speak to you,

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You don't know the shít you saying.

I have been in christianity for so many years until i found out that christianity is professing to follow Jesus which they arent following at all.

Jesus never said when you need help or counselling neglect the place of the Holy Spirit and go to your pastor or bishop for help. He said i will send the comforter and He will teach you,guide you into all truth

Firstly,i am a disciple of Jesus and not a christian. Jesus never explained his relation with His church(ecclesia i.e the called ut ones) as head and body,but He said He is the vine and we are the branches.
Christianity is an organisation. An organisation has a head so does the church do. An organisation can be sued,so can the church. An organisation has hierachy so the church does. An organisation engages in programms and advertisements that will help increase profit,so the church do crusades,publicity,free medical checkups so that the members will increase whereby increment in tithes and offerings
I am not saying this,so that you may be believe Jesus and not pastors. COme out of lies they called christianity.

Jesus never said poverty will be eradicated. He said the poor you will always have with you Matthew 21:6
Jesus never said you are defrauding God by not paying your tithes. He said you pay tithes of mint,dill and cumin but you neglect the weightier matter of the law which is justice,mercy and faithfulness. He never supported paying tithe ooo. It belongs to the Jews and not youuuu

cckris:
If you're a Christian you'll know that an assembly has people gifted severally, for the good of all. Very beautiful experience of sinners BEING TRANSFORMED, from glory to glory, beyond human expectations.

first of all i am not a christian,i am a disciple of Jesus. From what you are saying the church is a socio-religious institution right. If you say that,you are 100% correct because that is what the church represents

John 4:20-24 was talking about Jesus and the samaritan. The old form of worship of worship for the samaritans is to worship God on that particular mountain but for the jew is to worship God in jerusalem i.e temples and synagogues. But Jesus gave a new order of worship as commanded by the father. He said you will not worship God on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. He clearly states that in worshipping God not location is needed. It annuls the concepts of churches,temples,synagogues,camps. He continued by saying but the hour comes and now is ,when the truth worshipper will worship the father in spirit and in truth.
No specific location was specified by Jesus. Going to church is wrong. It is continuation of old worship of God that Jesus came to change. To go to church is to disobey Jesus
Looking at the first disciples. They were moving from one house to the other. No specific location.

cckris:
Are you that hopeless, beyond redemption? If you can't find THE NEW COVENANT, promised in Jeremiah 31:31, which was established by Jesus, THE MESSIAH, or CHRIST in Greek, then you're most pitiable among humankind.

the new covenant is never christianity.Christianity believes you have to be taught by a teacher or pastor or bishop or pope but jeremiah 31:34 no one will have to teach another to know the lord,for it shall be written in their heart. Jesus even said dont be called teachers for one is your teacher which is christ Matthew 23:8
ChristianIty make excuses for Jesus words by quoting the epistles to explain it.
The epistles and the gospels are contraditing,either you follow Jesus or follow Paul(false apostle).

Jesus never said that pray forthe death of your enemies. He said love them,pray for them that persecute you Matthew 5:43-45
Jesus never said many flocks and many shepherds(pastors) but one flock one shepherd John 10:16

Jesus never said whenever you want t worship gather in a temple t worship john 4:20-24
Jesus never said pray in the open,where people will see you. He said when you pray God into the secret

cckris:
Are you that hopeless, beyond redemption? If you can't find THE NEW COVENANT, promised in Jeremiah 31:31, which was established by Jesus, THE MESSIAH, or CHRIST in Greek, then you're most pitiable among humankind.

pls i dont get,i will love it if you can explain futher plssss

@DeathStroke pls i wanna know your standing point. My post earlier is from a disciple of jesus point of view. I believe and i am certain that Jesus never founded christianity,paul did. Many of what christian does or practices are against Jesus teachings

I have searched throughout matthew,mark,luke and John i haven't and yet to see where Jesus commissioned christianity. Christianity was founded by paul. Have you not asked yourself this question why are pastors always preaching and backing up their doctrines with the epistles and rarely the gospel. The answer is that the EPISTLES is the alternative to the GOSPELS(Matthew,mark,luke,john). All religions are institutions of men(man made). No religion is divine or from God. Paul brought Christianity,Mohammed brought Islam,Jews brought Judaism etc. Come out of religion and follow Jesus. Religion can not save you,it can not take you anywhere. Follow Jesus because He is the only way to God. John 8:31-32,Jesus said if you continue in my words,then you are my disciples. And you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free. In order to get eternal life,you have to God through Jesus and not through religion.
Going through Acts 11:25-26 I found something. It was the disciples of Paul that were called Christians. Disciples are students. They were students of Paul because they have been taught by Paul for a year. There is a vast different between the disciples of Jesus and disciples of Paul. They both held the teachings of their teachers high above every other things. I am a disciple of Jesus

Christianity is a religion like other religions. Christianity was merged with paganism by constatine when he wanted christianity to be the worlds religion while he was an emperor.

Hmmmmm! I dont blame the man,he is actually not their father. Jesus said call no man father on earth for one is your father who is in heaven. Matt 23:9. I am not encouraging or commending what he did. I am just revealing that God is the only father

It might actually be planned by the english side wanting him to join their team rather than joining nigeria team. Hmmm! It was a setup joooor

rexben:
There is no true religion,all religion are the same, each serving God. Jesus came not to establish any religion,not even christianity. He never came to establish. He came purely to show us the way to God. Christianisty was founded by paul

why do christians go to church to worship God when Jesus said that you will no longer worship in jerusalem or on this mountain but the true worshipppers will worship God in Spirit and in truth John 4:20-24

There is no true religion,all religion are the same, each serving God. Jesus came not to establish any religion,not even christianity. He never came to establish. He came purely to show us the way to God. Christianisty was founded by paul

According to jesus,the world is not program t get better