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Hello... Can someone please explain the difference between Handicap +1 and Win/Draw.. Cos i observed they have different odds

thanks

EMEAGWALI REPLIES:

First, the Onitsha version of the Igbo language is distinct: it still contains numerous words from the Yoruba, Edo and Igalla languages. In 1967, I was told that the oldest man in Onitsha could speak "old Onitsha language" which none could understand.

Again, the Yorubas/Edos immigrated in the mid-1500s, as they fled the slave raiders. The Igbos and Igallas traders immigrated circa 200 years ago. Today, 95 percent of Onitshans were not even born near Onitsha. Hence, only the descendants of the old Onicha immigrants known as Ume Eze Chima could aspire to become the Obi of Onitsha.

The argument that "Chima" is an Igbo name is not sufficient proof that Eze Chima is Igbo. Please remember that Chima's contemporaries include Cristóbal Colón, the Spanish explorer that was renamed "Cristoforo Colombo" by Italians and "Christopher Columbus" by Anglo-Saxons. Spanish speakers often insist on calling me the more familiar "Felipe" or Spanish for "Philip." Since words such as Chima, Onitsha and Ado were not written down, they are certainly corruptions of Edo/Yoruba words.

EZE CHIME by Phillip Emeagwali
I am a Yoruba by birth (born in Akure, western region) and Igbo by heritage. As a native Onitsha Igbo, I trace my ancestry to Eze Chima, a prince who rebelled against the Benin royal dynasty and emigrated from the kingdom. Other Igbos that trace their lineage to Eze Chima include Onicha-Ukwu, Onicha-Olona, Onicha-Ugbo, Obior, Issele-Ukwu, Issele-Mkpima, Issele-Azagba, Ezi, Abeh and Obamkpa.

Native Onitshans speak a dialect of the Igbo language with several Benin/Yoruba words such as "Obi" (of Onitsha) and "Oba" (of Benin). In fact, the word Onitsha (Onicha) is a corruption of the god "Orisha." The bini name for River Niger is Ohinmwin. The Onicha Igbo call it "Orinmili." In a few years, we will have DNA tests that proves (or disproves) the Onitsha-Benin-Yoruba connection.

In fact, a lost dialect of the Yoruba language, called Olukwumu, is spoken in Brazil and in a few Igbo communities named Anioma, Idumu-Ogu, Ubulubu, Ugboba, Ugbodu, and Ukwunzu (M. A. Onwuejeogwu, 1987 Ahiajoku Lecture). The absence Olukwumu in core Yoruba land proves that these communities are the Lost Yoruba Tribe that were fleeing from slave raiders.

Let's look at the timeline.

In the 1560s: Eze Chima and his descendants left Benin. As many as one in four Igbo-speaking people are the descendants of people that emigrated from Benin Kingdom.

In the 1560s: The Benin Kingdom produced its first powerful Oba, named Esigie. All Obas derived their wealth, power and mystique from slave trading.

In the 1560s: John Hawkins took the first African slaves from The Slave Coast to Haiti.

What was then called the Slave Coast was later renamed Benin Kingdom, Nigeria, Gold Coast and Ghana. The word "Onitsha" is a corruption of the word "Orisha." The religion Orisha is practiced among Yorubas and Haitians.

Just as we shortened the name "United States of America" to United States or America, similarly the name "Orisha Edo" was corrupted to "Onitsha Ado" and then shortened to "Onitsha." The proof is that the web site for Onitshans is not onitsha.com: it is onitshaado.com.

People did not travel far in the olden days. In fact, three of my four grandparents never travelled more than ten miles from the place they were born. Therefore, it is not possible for Eze Chima to travel 200 miles through the rain forest to Benin and then return homeward in his lifetime.

It will require an entire book to expound on the Onitsha-Igbo-Yoruba-Edo connection. In the future, I will provide details that prove that as much as one in four Ndi Igbo were descendants of refugees that were fleeing slave raiders. Igbo elders have a saying that "when you see a lizard running in the daytime you know that something is after its life." The mass migration that forced Onitsha people to resettle in the east bank of the River Niger was a result of their flight from the Oba of Benin and his slave raiders.

Kene ezi na ulo gi

The real name is Amuge

T.B .J and his arrangee trash. He just wants peo

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T.B .J and his arrangee trash. He just wants people to laff at churches .antichrist

cheruv:
n'ikpeazu,o kwuola eziokwu
NO TRUE IKA SON WOULD DENY HIS IGBO ROOTS,NO MATTER HOW HARD THINGS ARE FOR THE IGBO NATION

as for that Bini man called rexbuton,I'd commend your aggressiveness in trying to claim for yourself the westernmost fortress of the Igbo realm.moreover it was quite shameful kos you failed just like your obas of old failed to conquer Agbor
when the time comes, the sins of the Bini nation against the Igbo realm will be remembered and addressed appropriately

Of course
cheers

Rest in bosom of which lord? Darth Lord Vader? abi Voldemort?

Probably this issue shall be revisited in the future when more Ika people have access to Information technology and actively use it. For now, people would see our discussion and be pleased that attempts have been made to solve one long-lasting debate. We must remember that there is always the true side of every story no matter how many versions

Malawian:
you are not IKA? i was even thinking you were agbontaen himself.

Agbontaen should be a bini man just like me.. Or i prefer to use the term Igodomigodo since benin is not our real name

CaptainOjemba:
bowing down like a coward.

Your tone and language is a hallmark of your tribe.. You could improve on that

GenIgrigi:
**grins** You are not Ika and you are here playing and making noise and trying to rewrite their history. You are a bloody yorubaman. Only yorubas fight to rewrite people's history and cry blue murder when the truth is slapped on their hammerheads. **LOLS**

Funny Guy.. It was worth it, rather sad that the people concerned seem to be preoccupied with other issues like Okowa's governorship dreams

(Raith rovers - Hearts ) looks fixed for low scoring or draw

Radoillo:
You are not Ika?

I could have sworn you were.

I'm from Benin

The speed with which these terrorists are being routed is alarming.. I hope there is no sub-plot! Anyways good thing BH is finally over

Since the Ika people have failed to speak for themselves, I being an outsider cannot push it further. You cannot scratch someone's back the way he would scratch it himself

interesting development

tonychristopher:
PLS AND PLS WRITE SOMETHING AND STOP QUOTING OUT OF CONTEXT

AGBONTEA IS A KNOWN MAD MAN IN NAIRALAND

FORGET HIM

Issues he writes on are things I know very much about, I proof read his stuff for errors.

I've been writing since yesterday but you guys are not really impressing me.. Your posts have been filled with abuses, logical and grammatical errors, arriving at wrong premises from imaginative stuff.. Una no try at all

I believe the neutrals won't be impressed too

For those who need facts

By Agbotaen
no one is denying igbo migration or igbo influence in ika ,but we want to be respected as a people who are of a seperate ethnic group called ika , we dont want igbo appendage or Benin appendage we are just Ika nation . We love our culture and tradition and we would defend it to the last.
I am from Owa kingdom and my family is one of the original founders of Owa kingdom and we are fierce warrior, these people tried and failed

my ancestors names are Igbedigin, Oviagbon, Ugbebor,Omoroje,Ibiuzugbe,Imade,Osahon ,Aimonagbare,Okpeaye,Ogbe,Ogbudu,Omigie, i guess you silly igbo lir
lier will tell me it is an igbo name,our Obis name is Ifeizomor ,his father was Oboh Efeizomor, his grandfather was Ikokoh Obaigbena,whose father was called Okundaiye,whose father was Aigbodin Igbeoba,whose father was called Ose,and as far back as 13th century when my ancestor was the Obi of Owa his name was Igbedigin, and after him the next obi was Ewodo, and after that the next obi was ewuare and the next was Orhogbua and the Ozolua. 1906 the british invaded owa kingdom with their cannons, guns and muskets and soldiers owa warriors confronted them and killed captain crewe reade in owanta ,he was the assistant district officer for benin area , and he was beheaded by an owa warrior called tete Okunbor Osagie,that war lasted for 55 days and the British suffered casualties and they had to call for reinforcement with the soldiers and battallion of west african frontier forces and they defeated and captured our obi , aigbodi Igbeoba -Ogbihaga( the king with dreadlocks) and exiled him in Warri ,where he died and his son Obi Okundaiye became king of owa .after that the british respected owa and ika people that was why the colonial governor said he was afraid to go to Agbor area where the people are war like and hostile.
The former Obi of Agbor around 1900, Obi Osaigbobu challenged Oba Eweka the second of Benin then a prince to a wrestling match and he refused to put down his eben and ada when Eweka came to Agbor and it was a tradition for allI Ika or anioma kings to put down their ada when they see the Oba as a sign of the obas seniority, before that time the British made Aiguosinvba the son of Oba Ovoramwen to become the district head of Agbor and he sat at a higher pedestral than the Obi of Agbor ,the agbor people revolted and attack him, they nearly killed him and he was injured and later removed.In 1966 during the civil war the Igbos too lay such claims but trust Ika people they quickly helped the federal troops to expel them. So if all this things have happened i wonder why some people will be pushing an ageda that is already dead before delivery to ika people .finally i will like to say we are Ika people and we belong to ika nation and nothing will make us any other tribe except Ika , we cannever be Igbo but Benin. If you look at the core culture of the main Ika people , and if you go back in time say 500 years or more what you will find are Bini names that our people bore, you will see in the naming of our villages and most towns bini names and if you come to what we worshipped traditionally , you will find they are mostly Edo deities like Olokun, Ovia, Ake, Ohunweeden, Ohointe, Ogun(idigun),Ojuwu,Ikpai,and others with the exception of Ikenga and Ifejiokun that are Igbo deities.

As for festivals our ancient festivals are mainly Bini related like Ikaba,Ugbose, Osiezi, Inneh,Ogbanigbe,Uje and Igue -which still remains the most famous in Ika and Bini land. Our kingship style was not taken from nri or any other igbo land , but from Bini using the Uselu and Edaiken system and chieftancy with a Dein/Obi and three levels of chieftancy called ohaimen - the palace ,town and hereditory chiefs which mostly go by Bini names like Obazuaye, Obaseki, Ozomor, Ologboshere, Uwangue, Esama,Isekure, Ihama, Ihaza, Ihondon, and others these Bini titles are the important ones , vested with traditional authority ,but right now we have Igbo titles occuring in the last hundred years like Ogifurueze,Ezenweanali and others but very few and less significant. The dressing of the chiefs and kings in ikaland attest to the fact that they look exactly like a replica of the Oba of Benin and Bini chiefs.Due to our culture of property rights , marriages and other things which relate us to the Bini ,if there is any cultural problem in Ika and average Ika chief will look towards Bini and that is a fact ,because we share same cultural space.

Agbor link with Edo people and how their language was corrupted through
missionaries teachings, during their crave to spread their religious
beliefs .


By Emeka Esogbue







The History of Agbor Kingdom like those of other African ancient kingdoms, empires and peoples is based on oral tradition. Various oral accounts on the origin of Agbor and Ika people exist but the most credible being that “Ogunagbon” and his followers who founded Agbor came from Benin and first settled in “Ominije” presently located in today’s Agbor-Nta. Following what can best be described as personal crisis between two princes in Benin and subsequent settlement of this dispute as agreed to by the chiefs and elders of Benin determined by casting of lot, one of the princes settled in what became known as “Agbon”. Agbon like other Anioma towns and communities was later anglicized by the Bjritish who found it difficult to pronounce as “Agbor” the present name of the town. For certain reasons, I have decided to ignore all other events that transpired leading to the foundation of the town called Agbor in acknowledgement of the fact that what concerns us here is the progenitor of the kingdom and his origin. Agbon (Agbor) in Benin means “Earth or “Land”.
Anglicization of names of Anioma communities found difficult to pronounce was not new by the British was not uncommon to these peoples. Igbuzo in circumstances beyond the understanding of the indigenes was anglicized as “Ibusa,” Ahaba (Asaba,) Ogwanshi-Ukwu (Ogwashi-Uku) Isei-Ukwu (Issele-Uku) Isei-Mkpitime (Issele-Mkpitime) Okpam (Okpanam) Umuede (Umunede) Notice also that in some cases the name remains the same but the spelling may change as in the case of Onicha (Onitsha) of Anambra state another of Anioma city.
As noted earlier Cheime, a refugee from Benin is historically credited with the foundation of majority of Anioma communities. Historical accounts records Cheime who was driven away from Benin fled from the kingdom traveling eastwards towards the Niger River and founded Onitsha where he finally settled, his followers having been exhausted founded certain of these Anioma towns. Many of which includes the present day Onicha-Uku, Onicha-Ugbo, Onicha-Olona, Onicha-Ukwu, Issele-Uku, Idumuje-Unoh, Idumuje-Ugboko and a lot more.
At the present day Onitsha in Anambra state, his final place of settlement, Cheime had had a daughter called Owuwu, Owuwu was believed in oral history to have abandoned Onitsha fearing she might lose her life after her father lost nine of his sons in this very town owing to witchcraft. Owuwu was soon to return to Agbor settling at Osarra in Agbor. The name “Owuwu” which now is a Quarter in Agbor is a historical testimony of this.
The argument in certain Quarters that Agbor people bear Igbo names and to some extent assimilates Igbo language and vocabularies is well a defeated one, it is asking why the language of Onitsha people is Igbo having been founded by Cheime from Benin.
Available records show that the British colonial government encouraged Christian missionaries from Igbo land who taught the Ika people using Igbo Bible, hymns and songs. Again the British disregarded homogeneity in their creation of provinces and regions in Nigeria as in else where. Onitsha emerged as a commercial nerve of Anioma but after the Anioma people lost in the Ekwumekwu wars, the town was put in separate province where it now finds itself.



The following names similarly exists between Ika and Bini
1. Agbnifo
2. Ehima
3. Edeje
4. Imade
5. Izegbe
6. Isibor
7. Iredia
8. Iyama
9. Osifo
10. Ozegbe



Common festivals celebrated with Benin

1. Igue
2. Ugbose



The following places with same names exist in Agbor and Benin
1. Ogan
2. Owuwu
3. Ihaikpen
4. Alisor



Commomn vocabularies
1. Ishegwari
2. Ikeke
3. Ulakpa
4. Agara
5. Ise
6. Ikobo
7. Ezuzu

Ojiofor:
Nobody is here to convince you with facts about who you are.if you like remain a confused being till end of time.

The world revolves around knowledge.. If not for projects and facts we would have been thinking the world was flat

tonychristopher:
SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING IN EARNERST, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU OFFICICAILLY KNOW NOTHING PERTAINING TO YOUR HISTORY, KEEP CALLING DERANGED AGBONTEAN

Read between the lines