₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
Trust me when I tell you that no  amount of brainstorming will me bring myself to accept that PROMOTING FAILURE is the way to continue. I am sorry. . .  I have seen and learnt how things ought to work and I am not going back to the "failure can be brushed off as good" mentality that plagues many still. 

A list of the functions and responsibilities of a minister of information is available at the link I posted there as well since I have noticed how no one wants to take time to learn exactly what an information minister, or even any of our other ministers ought to be doing for us, but people are quick to dismiss factual information provided them simply on conjecture and nonsense arguments.

At this point, I don't want to continue with this as I have sufficiently made my point and my stance clear.

. . . I am yet to see anyone with a bigger delusions than Your, always struggling to make sense. Abeg shut da 4ck up and eat Ur Mcdonalds, too much googling don dey make U think say U sabi sth, rubbish!

Bee baby just raised the bar for other women married to very rich guyz. . Damn! Some wives would hate her gutz for upping the barz. ,lol
Naija galz must take a cue from this abeg. .generally, they ve this idea that it is the duty of the malefolks to do stuff like this. . They feel any woman that does this kinda ish is a fool or sth. . .nicea one B!

To think that he is a dues paying member of anti-tax protest groug, ha? Hahahaha. . . This guy dey vex O. . Lol
anyway, it aint prison per se. . Just some correctional facility. . Am sure if he behaves well, he may come up for parol within a yr and a half. . .gudluck bro. . Hahaha

ragdollz:
The same planet you were dumped from .

. . Lol. . Thats why I like U, U get mouth. . Lol
By the way, it is Broklyn's Finest and the film don tey small.
I also thought he had already done his time on dis case. . .the news seems kinda stale to me sha

Seriously, Waziri is just a politician ready play ball. She gives women administrators a bad name with the way she has been running the EFCC aground. She knows how impossible it is going to be for the US government to hand over her former VP to Nigeria for prosecution, irrespective of how generally hated the man is in the US. The whole antics here is to bring up the arguement that if the US Govt can protect its topmost officials from prosecution then why should the Nigerian govt not do thesame to its top most diplomats and corrupt politicians like Atiku. This woman has reduced the anti-graft agency to just politics and nothing more. If they are serious to get justice then let them start with the Nigerian officials and politicians that were indicted by Okiro's Haliburton report and stop chasing shadows. No matter how bad or heartless Dick Cheney is, he aint a small fry that any tom, dick and privates can just 4ck with for some cheap political points.

A former chairman of the Revenue
Mobilisation, Allocation and Fiscal
Commission, Hamma Tukur has
asked members of the National
Assembly to return all allowances
and salaries they collected illegally
from the nation’s treasury.
Mr Tukur who said this during a
radio programme (Raypower) at
the weekend, noted that the 469
Senators and members of the
House of Representatives are being
unfair to the country if the reports
are true that they collect
allowances above what the
commission stipulated.
According to him, the commission
recommended and approved a
total package of N954,096.60
monthly for a senator and
N794,084.95 for each member of
the House of Representatives. He
said the figures include the basic
salaries and allowances.
He said that a Senator’s basic salary
is N168,866.66 while that of each
representative is about
N165,434.33, stressing that any
amount they receive above this is
illegal.
“If it is one single naira above this
figure, it is not known in law.
Therefore, the lawmakers should
refund whatever extra they
collected, ” Mr Tukur, who left office
last year, said.
Speaking further, the former
commission boss explained that the
salaries and allowances were
worked out based on what a
director in the ministry earns.
The actual salaries and allowances
of the federal lawmakers have
been a subject of controversy for
years. There were reports that each
member of the House now takes
home about N42 million quarterly
while a senator earns N80 million.
Last week, the Governor of the
Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN),
Sanusi Lamido Sanusi was
summoned by the Senate and the
House of Representatives to
substantiate his claim, during a
lecture at the Iginedion University,
that about 25 percent of the
overhead of the national budget
was being used to maintain the
legislators.
When he appeared before the
lawmakers, Mr Sanusi insisted that
the figure was correct since he
obtained it from the office of the
Director General of the Budget
Office.

[quote author=Nn-a-Nn-a link=topic=560486.msg7256428#msg7256428 date=1291275234][color=#990000][/color][size=8pt][/size][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]NOW I KNOW WHY NAIRA DEPRECIATED SO RAPIDLY DURING BABAGIDA REGIME. INCCESSANT CASH MINTING. IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT NIGERIA CANNOT OR WILL NOT PRINT DOLLAR. SO YOU PRINT NAIRA AND USE IT TO BUY DOLLAR AND CONTINOUSLY NAIRA REDUCED AGAINST DOLLAR NEVER TO RISE TO FORMER GLORY. THANKS FOR THE WISE CONTRIBUTORS.[/quote]. . .can you explain in details how Naira went below dollar as a result of printing more naira note? I think there was depreciation because the minted notes where not used to creat or support production that could ve balanced any exchange differential caused by the minted notes. The Americans and some european countries ve done thesame thing recently and it has rather been taking them off the recession. Money borrowed from world bank and co can be seen in a similar light, is not like they were gotten from profits or sth yet they are supplied to the money market and to offset national debt without all the attendant negetives that's alleged to be associated with just printing money.

I understant that if a government
were to print more money and
circulate it into its own economy,
that this would inevitably lead to
increased inflation in its country.
Sound argument for not printing
more money.
But why would a country not
print more money to purchase
from other countries (e.g. to
repay debt or to purchase raw
materials). Wouldn ’t the extra
money then simply be dumped
into the other country, leading to
higher inflation in that country
and not your own? Or perhaps is
the answer that in dumping the
extra money overseas, you are
indirectly creating more money in
your own territory?
Maybe a naive question but I
would love to have a good
answer to it!
Besides, I don't think it is in every instance that printing money can lead to inflation. If only government can determine the right amount of money to be printed in line with production then its inflationary effect might not be tangible.
Also, in cases of recession, government can print out money to stimulate demand and in effect, stimulate the economy, the US is a recent example of this method and so far, it is working. I think the bone of contention is how to meet money supplied with volume of production(demand), if the discrepancy can be solved, printing your way out of debt might not realy be a bad idea. My 2cent.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
Basic Salary - N2, 484, 245.5.
Hardship Allowance @ 50% of
Basic Salary - N1,242,122.70 (I
love this kind of hardship)
Constituency allowance @ 200%
of BS - N4,968,509.00
Furniture Allowance @ 300% of
BS - N7,452,736.50
Newspaper allowance @ 50% -
N1,242,122.70 (Which kind
newspaper be this shey na
online or hard copy?).
Wardrobe allowance @ 25% -
N621,061.37
Recess Allowance@ 10%: -
N248,424.55
Accommodation @ 200% -
N4,968,509.00.
Utilities @ 30% - N828,081.83.
Domestic Staff @ 35% -
N863,184.12.
Entertainment @ 30% -
N828,081.83.
Personal Assistance @ 25% -
N621,061.37.
Vehicle
Maintenance Allowance @ 75% -
N1,863,184.12.
Leave Allowance @10% -
N248,424.55.
One off payments (As advised by
SagamiteSeverance gratuity) @
300% - N7,452,736.50 (Once they
get fired.)
Motor Vehicle Allowance @ 400%
of BS - N9,936,982.00 -
Every Four Years Senators Salary
per month. - N2,456,647.7 Total =
N29, 479, 749.00
* 109 Senators Grand Total = N
3,264,329,264.10
A feeding frenzy!!! ENOUGH IS
ENOUGH Salary
U.S. President: $250,000/yr.
GDP U.S. Economy: $13Trillion/yr.
Allowance Nig. Senator: $
1,500,000/yr
GDP Nig. Economy: $45 Billion/
yr.
And they want more.
Doctors, teachers, civil servants
can't boast of N1m a year and
these guys want N30m every
month
SAY NO TO THIS OPEN LOOTING OF
NIGERIA.

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Jonathan moves to revive
PDP in S-West
November 30, 2010
By Leke Adeseri, S-West
Regional Editor, Ola Ajayi,
Kolade Larewaju and Dayo
Johnson
The dwindling fortunes of the
Peoples ’ Democratic Party in
the South West is no doubt
giving President Goodluck
Jonathan sleepless nights.
Some even say he is
personally leading the
campaign to restore the
party ’s glory. A source said:
“The president has resolved to
settle the crises within the
party in South West states and
he believes that his electoral
fortunes would be further
enhanced when he brings all
the pockets of dissatisfaction
within the party to an end.”
The source further maintained
that President Jonathan ’s main
strategy of retaining the
confidence of all PDP delegates
in him is to ensure that all
factions are reconciled
immediately. It was gathered
that such a move will not only
ensure victory for the
president at the primaries but
also enhance the party ’s
electoral fortunes at the
general elections.
President Jonathan, it was
gathered, had kick-started his
peace moves within the PDP
during his visit to Lagos last
weekend.
“During
that visit,
the
president
brought
together
all major
factions in
the PDP in
the South
West.
Loyalists of
the party
in Lagos,
Ekiti, Oyo
and Ondo
were able
to meet with the president and
there was a return to
conviviality.
Parties that have not sat
together for years came
together to see the president
and he told them that there is
the need to ensure peace
within the PDP fold, ” the source
added
From Ogun State VANGUARD
can confirm the attendance of
Governor Olugbenga Daniel
and his factional Chairman;
Elder Joju Fadairo. It was
however decided that the
President would meet the
party leaders from each state
separately as the issues
creating problems were
different.
The meeting, according to a
source, was mostly dominated
by discussion about the states
that have been lost, how to
pacify the members of the
party there and how to ensure
that the party bounced back
particularly with the other
elections into the National
Assembly and Houses of
Assemblies, so that the party
will not to lose out completely.
In the case of Ogun state, the
meeting was said to have
discussed strategies to resolve
the crisis between the
Governor Daniel group and the
others led by Minister of
Industries; Senator Jubril
Martins_Kuye.
In the Daniel’s group were
mostly Commissioners, Special
Advisers, Special Assistants,
Chairmen and members of
Boards and Commissions and
Local Government Chairmen
with only one Senator, Kola
Bajomo and four members of
the House of Representatives.
Also in the group were 11
members of the House of
Assembly led by factional
Speaker; Mr. Emmanuel
Soyemi Coker.
In the Martins_Kuye group
were two Senators –Iyabo
Obasanjo Bello and Lekan
Mustapha, Speaker of the
House of Representatives; Mr.
Dimeji Bankole, four other
members of House of
Representatives, 15 members
of the House of Assembly led
by Speaker Tunji Egbetokun,
Chairman of the Party ’s Elders
Forum; Chief Sule Onabiyi,
former Secretary to the State
Government; Chief Sarafa Tunji
Ishola and a host of other
prominent members.
The Jubril Martins_Kuye group
were however said to have
the support of former
President Olusegun Obasanjo.
The source however declined
to say what the “strategies’
are.
From Oyo State:
Jonathan allegedly intervened
in Oyo PDP crisis
.Gov Akala says the status quo
remains
Aggrieved members of the
Peoples Democratic Party
(PDP) in Oyo State have
vowed to work towards the
actualisation of President
Goodluck Jonathan ’s
presidential ambition in 2011
and reject Governor Adebayo
Alao_Akala ’s second term bid.
The PDP leaders led by former
Governor Rashidi Ladoja at a
meeting with President
Jonathan at an undisclosed
venue in Lagos, told the
president clearly that the Ike
Nwachkwu committe’s report
had to be implemented and
that Alao_Akala should not be
fielded as the party ’s standard_
bearer in the governorship
election next year.
According to them, the party,
in its wisdom, may deem it fit
to compensate him for another
post after the poll.
Panacea to end the crisis
Sources at the meeting told
journalists in Ibadan on Sunday
that those who spoke were
unanimous in their call for the
full implementation of Ike
Nwachukwu-led PDP National
Peace and Reconciliation
Committee as the panacea to
end the crisis in the party and
non_fielding of Akala as the
party ’s standard_bearer for the
2011 gubernatorial contest.
The source added that the
president asked them to give
him the opportunity to listen to
the Akala ’s group too and
other stakeholders in Oyo
project and this informed the
invitation extended to both
the Alaafin of Oyo, Oba Lamidi
Adeyemi, and Aare Musulumi
of Yorubaland, Alhaji
Abdulazeez Arisekola_Alao, on
the matter.
The 13 anti_Akala PDP men at
the meeting were former
Governor Ladoja; Chief Lekan
Balogun; former Deputy
National Chairman (South) of
the party, Alhaji Yekini Adeojo;
former Minister of Special
Duties, Elder Wole Oyelese;
Senate Leader, Teslim Folarin,
Chairman, House of
Representatives Committee on
Appropriation, Ademola Ayo
Adeseun; factional chairman of
the party, Alhaji Yunus
Akintunde, and former
Secretary to the State
Government, Mr Sharafadeen
Abiodun Alli.
Other notable PDP chieftains at
the meeting which commenced
at 10.00 p.m. and ended
around 2.00 a.m. were Chief
Elisha Olanrewaju; Alhaji Alli
Oyedeji; Mr Bayo Lawal;
another House of
Representatives member,
Honourable Lanre Agoro, and
Ambassador Yomi Akintola,
son of the late Premier of
defunct Western Region, Chief
Ladoke Akintola.
Sources at the meeting told
journalists that President
Jonathan, who set the tone for
the meeting, sued for peace
for the party to emerge
victorious in the 2011 and
subsequent elections.
The presidency has reportedly
advised Gov Alao- Akala to
drop his governorship ambition
and collect a senatorial ticket.
The advice which was said to
have been given to the
governor in a meeting held at
Dodan Barracks, Lagos last
Thursday threw him off
balance as he hurriedly went
to the Ota farm of the former
President, Chief Olusegun
Obasanjo for next line of
action.
According to an impeccable
source, the presidency which
was said to have intervened
and asked all parties in the
political crisis to sheathe their
swords had a rethink when it
sought the opinions of powers
that be in the state.
Vanguard learnt that on Friday,
President Jonathan Goodluck
met the Alaafin of Oyo, Oba
Lamidi Adeyemi, the Aare
Musulumi of Yorubaland, Alhaji
Azeez Arisekola_Alao and
others in Lagos who reportedly
did not mince words.
They were said to have told
the presidency that there was
no way the incumbent
governor could win the state
on the party ’s ticket. An aide of
the monarch who preferred
anonymity confirmed to
Vanguard that the monarch
met with the president but said
he could not say what
transpired there.
Wishful thinking
But, responding to the matter,
Governor Alao-Akala through
his Special Adviser on Public
Communication, Prince Dotun
Oyelade dismissed it as wishful
thinking.
He said, “it is wishful thinking
that the opposition
represented by the former
Governor of the state, Senator
Rashidi Ladoja had any
advantage of status within the
PDP ”.
“What transpired was that
Governor Akala did not want to
engage in any dialogue with
known anti party group and his
stern posture was recognized
by the President. The status
quo as far as the party in Oyo
State remains”, he stated.
It was also learnt that the
Board of Trustees [BoT]
Chairman of the party, Chief
Obasanjo, may have been fed
up with the seeming
unmanageable crisis in the
state.
Ladoja, Senator Balogun and
eleven others were said to
have told the president point
blank that it would be unwise
for them to endanger their
political fortune with Akala as
governor in the 2011 polls.
From Ondo State
A Leader of the PDP who is
privy to the weekend parley
who spoke in confidence said
the major issue discussed was
the chances of President
Jonathan as against the
happenings in the South West
in recent times.
The Source said that the
former governor of Ondo State
Dr Olusegun Agagu, his Deputy
Otunba Omolade Oluwateru
and Prof. Olusegun
Adegbulugbe represented the
PDP from Ondo State at the
meeting and that the crisis in
Ondo state was not discussed
because according to him ” it is
not as serious that those in
other South West states and
because the former President
had intervened earlier.
Agagu’s senatorial ambition
Dr Olusegun Agagu is not at
war with Olusola Oke in fact
they are in the same group.
But for Hosea Ehimlanwo he is
a lone ranger who is seeking a
second term in the Senate.
Information had it that he has
collected nomination form
from the party and ready to
face Dr Agagu and others in
the PDP primaries.
Others PDP members that are
warring with Dr Agagu over his
senatorial ambition include his
former aide Princes Oladunni
Odu, his in_law Segun Ayerin
who was a former Chairman of
Okitipupa Council area of the
state and the elder brother of
Chief Jimoh Ibrahim, the
business mogul, Akinsola Jimoh
also a business man.
It could not be confirmed if the
crisis in the Ondo PDP was
discussed at the weekend
meeting but Vanguard learnt
that the Former President
Olusegun Obasanjo had
recently intervened by holding
a peace meeting with the
former Finance Commissioner
Chief Tayo Alasoadura faction
after the group dragged Dr
Agagu before the former
President over the crisis in the
party in the state and the
domineering posture of the
former governor.
Dr Agagu is set to publicly
declare his intention for the
senatorial seat in the Southern
district area of the state soon
which may further widen the
gulf within the party as many
believe that it is not morally
right for him the vie after
assuring that he was no more
interested in political position
after the Court of Appeal
judgment which ousted his
barely two years ago.

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=559482.msg7244325#msg7244325 date=1291112626]Political move, to appease the Igbos. All na political strategy,[/quote]. . .I guess when OBJ banned them, it was aimed at crippling thesame Igbo peopl, right? Guy abeg be serious jare!
Go to Balogun market and co in Lagos and check if 80% of textile and co are locally made. Besides, Igbos do not dominate the textile industry, if you are referring to automotives then I say, shey na only Igbo dey drive cars?

In retrospect, there is no economic sense for the ban as the rationale for it has been defeated by the results thus far. It just does not make any economic sense especially when one considers the fact that the ban has not had any positive effect on Nigeria's economy or her manufacturing sector. Instead, it has facilitated substantial smuggling and consequent rent seeking by Nigeria's customs and exercise.
According to the world bank study on Nigeria's restrictive trade policies, it was calculated that about #600 billion cargo of banned goods makes it past the face of Nigeria's customs and enter our market unofficially from cotonou. This figure represents 15% of Nigeria's annual import. Imagine the huge by the Nigerian government to Benin Rep?
Besides the sheer corruption that the ban has engendered, the current regime undermines the willingness of customs officials to decisively tackle reforms in the service. As a result, the operation cost of stopping smuggling activities at these boarders, especially with that of Benin Republic is extremely very high. According to the report, officially, 30% of cotonou port traffic is destined for Nigeria; unofficially, 75% of containers at the cotonou port are actually estimated to be headed for Nigeria. So tell me, what is the point of the ban? When more than 90% of this banned products still makes it to our markets and the government is the loser for it. From findings on how the smuggling is done; In the export countries the destination of the goods is Benin republic, on getting to cotonou port, the destination changes midway to Nigeria by revising the export papers.
According to the report, if the ban can be adjusted to limited products, over #60 billion which is about the current revenue collected by the Nigerian customs could be collected in addition to the current revenues.
Let's face facts, since the implementation of the ban in 2005 by the government of Obasanja, what has been the success story of our domestic production and capacity? So far, the bans have proven difficult to enforce, and it has had no serious tangible effect on domestic production. Take a look at our textile industry, despite the ban since 2005, there has not been any signs of improvement, instead, output has been declining and can't meet domestic demand. This is a sector that used to account for 27% of home textile market and 72% of west Africa's textile production. In fact, the size of the industry has gone from 175 textile firms back in the 1980s to a meagre 10 factories as at 2004. Employment from that sector has fallen from 350,000 to 40,000. Is it not obvious that protectionist economic policies are not working in our own case for so many reasons? Issues like power supply and transportation should take a driver seat in encouraging domestic production and improving capacity. Let us tackle those first before talking about protecting an economy whose manufacturing sector is almost non-existent. Jonathan has made a very good decision here lifting the bans, at least those monies that accrue to the Benin Repulic government and corrupt custom officials will now be accounted for.

Seeing the candid and very persuasive opinions of onlytruth, Abagworo, Ezeagu, Knowitall(with some interesting insights) and their likes give me hope. Afterall, not every can have the capacity for political savvy in this instance.
Any bargaining that will not include deliberate federal presence in the SE should not be taken seriously. GEJ's candidacy presents a turning point for the Ndigbo to gain the political confidence of the whole of the Eastern region and form more formidable political bloc. If we want the presidency, we would have to work for it and not wait for some northern desperado that has never supported us when they had the chance to. No region will another region the presidency, that is a fact. We should be more concerned with our own survival at our own pace and to do this, we will have to be in control of our own political destiny by taking charge first in our region. I am very sure that if GEJ should lose the primaries, PDP will be on its way to self destruct. GEJ will make sure he works against Atiku even if it means giving tacit support to Buhari. Atiku still have a long way to go in this election. Igbos will have to be carefull not to give in to cheap talks from northerners and igbo sell-outs. Both GEJ and Atiku have not said anything concrete to warrant any total support for them. I am very certain GEJ will beat Atiku at the primaries, GEJ will ve to be a slowpoke to lose.

igbobuigbo:
The West (Awo) probably killed more Igbos with his starvation policy than the bullets from the North. Adekunle who killed innocent Igbos is not a northerner either. We seem to know who the TRUE enemy is.

. . . That is exactly why no right igbo person should think like you. You would rather cut your nose to spite your face than make reasonable agreements. You allow your anti-yoruba or Ijaw-stance to get the better part of your decisions and Analysis. Let go abeg, this 2010/2011, nobody votes with that mentality, I am all for what any of the candidate can do that will positively affect me not all that crap abt who did this and that in a war that happened more than 40yrz ago.

jason12345:
i have taken my time to study the nigerian politics and i think i have a fair idea of what is going on.

rhymz, in as much as i think GJ is not the answer, i support your views!
it is just so fun when the group of people that marginalise and kill igbos at the slightest provocation is the same group the igbos trust before their southern counterparts. do they think the north would ever give them "power" after the atrocities they(north) have committed?

we all know how you will change your goal post coming 2015-2019

. . .the problem with many of my Igbo brothers is playing politics of flattery and stupid misplaced anger. The fact is, this is politics, no permanent for but permanent interests.

KnowAll:
I am not sure any of d quartet of Atiku, Saraki,IBB & Guseau would put their lives in d hands of an an Igbo Chief of Army Staff. Jonathan by dat singular act broke a taboo & anounced to d whole world dat an Igbo man can be trusted with the barrel of a gun. The aformentoined quartet would broke into cold sweat if you were to suggest such an obsene proposition prior to Jonathan's sound declaration.

By dangling the carcature position of a VP at eminient Igbos is one bait any wise & smart Igbo should ignore, they must realise this is one chalice d poison they can do without.

. . . You could not ve said it any better. Some people and their sentiments sha.
Even if Igbos must align with a northerner, does it have to be with Atiku? If we go by vote counts, Buhari beats Atiku hands down, he is more porpular and respected than Atiku both in the north and south. Atiku is another IBB, he will say or do anything to get our votes. Even though GEJ is yet to state what Igbos will gain from supporting him, supporting him will bring about a better cohension in the whole of the east. The division in the eastern region which was still done by the North has always been to the advantage of both the northern and SWestern region. Morally, Igbos supporting GEJ will show that afterall, we are not as overbearing and domineering to the minority tribes as erroneously believed. Politically, in future, Eastern region will be strengthened and can form a better political bloc that can benefit the whole of the region. Atiku and his elitist northern group cant be taken seriously to the extent of dumping GEJ who stands a way better chance at the poll than Atiku.

igbobuigbo:
Okay let me break it down for you:

1. Igbos will play second fiddle under Atiku (as you claim)
2. What fiddle number will they play under Jonathan?
3. Under Buhari?
4. Under Ribadu?


You must answer this question or stop posting stuff on this thread.

. . . Are you threatening Me or what?
Igbos hold the Ace now and the bargaining should be based on some tangible federal projects, assistance

igbobuigbo:
I guess Mr rhymz is a political neophyte or does not know the history of Nigerian politics. As far as politics is concerned, Igbos will fair better with the North than with most groups in the south. Moreover, based on their cry for zoning, the North has no reason not to hand over to a southerner in 2015. They already shot themselves in the foot by basing everything on zoning.

. . . You are talking nonsense with all political neophyte yarns. The group that has perpetually kept the Igbos out that leadership we so desperately want is the North. Their definition of zoning is North and South whether na SE, SS or SW, they careless. For example, if in 2015, an igbo PDP candidate lose to say ACN with a who also field in a southerner, do you think the North will field another Igbo after that? Guy reason well, your emotions of what the Yorubas or Ijaws did and didn't do in 1966 is clouding your judgement. Igbos should align with serious minded people whether not or south. Not ppl playing the tribal card to get votes, saying things they dont really mean and have no control over knowing the changing dynamics of politics.

An Igbo man that refuses to be cajoled by sweet talks.
Igbo people are better of sb else than Atiku.

udezue:
Lol This is I gotta admit that many Northerners are more intelligent than Easterners. The North knows VP position is useless to them hence they keep insisting on having their run while we have Easterners having o.garsm @ the mere thought that one of their own might be a "powerless" VP to a northerner in hopes that Atiku a northerner will relinquish power to the Igbo man in 2015. Even Atiku picks my own father sef, I will and I repeat, WILL NOT vote for him coz I know VP position is useless. The core aint worried about being anyones VP so why is SE foolishly worryin about it? What did Ekwueme or Ebitu Ukiwe's VP position do for Ndi-Igbo? Nada.

exactly my point. What the hell will playing second fiddle benefit the Igbos? A promise to hand over to an Igbo man after 4years. Imagine the trick! That is all they are offering and many Igbos are jumping like kids that just got candies. This is the best time to a strike a deal, a better one too not this nonsense talk of handing over as if that will bring the lack of federal presence that is visibly lacking in the region. This is the time to show political wits and our demands should not be entirely based on the possibility of becoming president after the northerners say so. If Atiku makes all that promise and the PDP lose come 2015 what will now happen? There has to be some serious bargaining abeg and Atiku or Jonathan are yet to say it.

I find it hard to believe that some of my Igbo brothers can fall for this ploy, what? Imagine Igbo people talking about playing second fiddle with so much gay and enthusiasm. What has Atiku based his choice on? That he will only be president for four yrz and then hand over to an Igbo V.P and you lots think is a better bargain and are gyrating. . .scheew. . . Rubbish. . . My Igbo brothers and their egos. . . If you want to trick an Igbo man, all you need to do is flatter his ego and make him feel important, he will be so carried away and make many avoidable mistakes. Who in Atiku's shoes will not promise heaven and earth? The man knows how unporpular his candidacy is, he knows that even in the north, Buhari and Jonathan will give him a very hard time let alone other region. He understands that Jonathan has a very strong support base in the SE than any other region, he knows how badly the Igbos want their own at the helms of afairs and he is playing it out as expected. My anger is the way Igbo people are just displaying political naivety. Anyway, until I see the comments of real igbo sons and daughters that have better knowledge of the polity, I will make my conclusions about my own people.
Onlytruth, Abagworo, Ezeuche, Andre Uweh, Dede1, naija king and their likes, I really will to know your opinions about this.
Note; to all Igbo sons and daughters, no northerner will handover power to an Igbo man even after eight years let alone 4yrs, any Igbo person that believes that nonsense is as politically lethargic and irrelevant as Ekweme and his ilks, simple.

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@rhymz,
if u ask this kind of question, then i am not supposed to be in the same forum with u. how did pdp loose anambra? it was under ngige and if u know your news, u will know that chris uba used FG(obsanjo's) power to push out ngige who was a pdp member and since then, pdp have paid everything possible to regain the state to no avail. the most recent was the soludo multi billion sponsored ambition.
in abia state the story was not different as orji uzor kalu left the party because obasanjo wanted to take over the state by all means.
if u know imo state and how obasanjo openly denounce the pdp gubernitorial ambition, u will agree with me that your question above needs withdrawal.
furthermore, the fall of delta state is based on war against ibori. i can assure u that if pdp looses any state now, it becomes a big task to regain it because many members especially founding fathers like alex ekwueme have been reduced to spectectors.
further war and problems are looming in the headquaters of corruption(pdp) when they are done with their primaries.
obasanjo have made pdp his private and person business and i must tell u he will not be long.

PDP did not lose Anambra because of Ngige's trouble with Chris Uba, PdP lost the election to APGA because in the first place, they never won it. Obi fought his mandate in court several times against the PDP and won it. Even if Ngige had not had any problems with his godfather, it still would not ve changed the court's verdicts. Whatever happened btw Ngige, Uba brothers and OBJ was in parallel with why they lost.
Soludo's case is very different as Anambra was already in the firm grip of an incumbent of APGA. The Uba brothers made sure soludo did not go anywhere in the first place. The fact that Soludo did not lost with a wide margin showed that situations in Anambra were beyond the control of OBJ and his Amala and Ewedu politics.
Did you say Orji left PDP because OBJ was trying to take over the state? How? Abia state was a PDP state until Orji started nursing the ambition of becoming president, he knew he could not realize it in the PDP, he left and formed PPA even though he was still carrying the PdP card. Even Theodore that won on the platform of PPA complained bitterly of Orji Uzo Kalu's overbearing politics and was forced to leave the party to thesame PDP. If Kalu is not decieving himself, how come he left the PDP, formed his own party, left his own party again, went back to the PdP and then again left it and went back to the PdP all the while still carrying the PDP membership card as he was hopping around, how are those OBJ's fault?
I am from Imo State and at present, I am in Owerre, there is nothing you can tell me here abt the political intrigues. Imo state has always been in the grip of PDP even when Ohakim was busy decieving people that he was in PPA. Ohakim has always been a PDP member and his emergence was a consensus arrangement to spite senator Ararume who at that time decieved OBJ he was going to deliver southeast support for his 3rd term bid.
The war in Delta state is about Ibori? Huh? Really? How did you know that? Because Edwin clark openly criticize Uduagha and call his cousin a rogue, so Pdp is now the reason Uduagha lost in the court? Homey, you need to face fact and leave all that speculations abeg. How does OBJ factor in that too. It is a known fact that all the PDP machinerier have thrown their weight behind Uduaghan even GEJ is reported to have said he will lead his campaign, so what's the fuss with it's about Ibori and all that nonsense.
Obasanjo has done much damage just as Atiku and his tribalistic cohorts have. It is only a fool that does not know that. No one is talking abt how Ciroma and co have denigrated the party primaries to a tribalistic one. If you hate OBJ, it is understandable, I even hate him more but don't get sentimental when it comes to the role everyone one of them has played. As far as I know, Atiku is not going anywhere, he can choose a thousand Igbos as VP that's his problem but he is not a politician to be reckon with both north and south.

Nigerian Serial killer?. . .lol. . .na pesin wey don chop belle full na im go dey serial kill. . .may be Clifford Orji, although he will fit better as a ritual serial killer. . .in his own case, he cooks and eats his victims. . .

In present day Nigeria an Utomi/Ribadu Ticket is an imposible dream. Apart from the fact that they do not have any tangible precedence of heading any political office, they are very unporpular and are their parties lack the reach to help them win votes. I would rather a Buhari/Utomi ticket than a pair with Ribadu we all know that wont go anywhere. Tinubu needs to take a back seat in the ACN allow a better and stronger merger with CNC Buhari's Party. Buhari is more porpular and respected in the North than Atiku, Saraki, IBB and Gusau, he is seen as a disciplined politician that can actually effect the needed change Nigeria needs. And one thing he has going for him is his lonesome politics that makes an electorate see him as not being part of the northern elite that has run down this country. As far as I am concerned, attention should be both on quality, porpularity and reach of candidates. This is the best time that Nigerians can actually vote and make sure that their votes actually counts. Ribadu can instead refill his former position as the Chairman of EFCC, the woman there is a disgrace.

Wait a minute, I thought this thread was abt Marrying a woman that cant cook? what's up with the take it in the buttz and all the Budissy gists? Abi are U guys Hot? . . .brouhahahahaha

youngmonie:
Barely 24 hours after receiving a political blow, ex-Vice-President Atiku Abubakar on Friday hit ex-President Olusegun Obasanjo over the loss of the South-West by the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP).

He also said: “We too dey laugh ooo!” over the victory of  Rauf Aregbesola at the Court of Appeal, Ibadan division.

He asked the leadership of the PDP to put the blame of its dilemma in the South-West at the doorsteps of Obasanjo.

He added that with the victory of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) in the South West, it was time for Obasanjo to retire to his “huge fortune in Ota,” instead of making a “fool of himself”

Atiku made his position known in a statement in Abuja through his Campaign Organisation.

He said the  Court of Appeal, Ibadan division’s declaration of the candidate of  ACN, Rauf Aregbesola, was  a “consequence of Chief Olusegun Obasanjo’s mismanagement of the PDP in the entire South West.

The statement said: “We are reaping the consequences of Obasanjo’s gross mismanagement of not only the PDP in the South West, but the entire country. We too dey laugh ooo!

“Obasanjo should just get out of the party so that we can rebuild the party we formed. All Obasanjo had done in his South West zone was to tear down the party, cause divisions and force out credible and loyal party members,” the statement said.


http://tribune.com.ng/sat/index.php/news/2608-osun-atiku-mocks-obasanjo.html

. . .has nothing to do with OBJ abeg, that of Delta, Anambra and co were they also OBJ? Abeg 4get that thang, infact, they ve been rigging elections courtesy of OBJ's Amala and Ewedu politics. . .PDP has never been known to win elections free and fair so make the fool shut da 4ck up. Afterall, he too protested the results of 2007 elections at the supreme court until he lost, if he was so sure the PDP were winning elections then why go to the courts. These fools shut the hell up jare! He has not even win the primaries yet he is talking like he is the president.

Hahahahaha. . . It is unfortunate that Jonathan did not realize this until recently that his nice guy demeanor will ve to change if he is serious to win this election. Wetin SNG fit help am do for dis kind political atmosphere wey dem wan start to dey gist economic performance and porpularity poll. . Lol. . .let's face it, Jonathan is politically Naive without the OBJ elements and co. . .he miscalculated with the Atiku re-instatement into the party. He will have to be brazen with his pursuit that's a fact, Atiku long before now should ve been hounded with all manner of increminating charges brought against him to keep him at bay. He had better use his incumbency advantage to ensure himself a victory at the primaries. Those state governors acting up and decieving him of their support, should be hounded and made to sit up. Only a joker will not start fighting dirty, he better align himself with some serious politicians not that talkative clark that does not understand the political implication of the nonsense that he says.

Hahahahaha. . . It is unfortunate that Jonathan did not realize this until recently that his nice guy demeanor will ve to change if he is serious to win this election. Wetin SNG fit help am do for dis kind political atmosphere wey dem wan start to dey gist economic performance and porpularity poll. . Lol. . .let's face it, Jonathan is politically Naive without the OBJ elements and co. . .he miscalculated with the Atiku re-instatement into the party. He will have to be brazen with his pursuit that's a fact, Atiku long before now should ve been hounded with all manner of increminating charges brought against him to keep him at bay. He had better use his incumbency advantage to ensure himself a victory at the primaries. Those state governors acting up and decieving him of their support, should be hounded and made to sit up. Only a joker will not start fighting dirty, he better align himself with some serious politicians not that talkative clark that does not understand the political implication of the nonsense that he says.

Ribadu reminds Me of the likes of Pat Utomi and co during the 2007 presidential election, it takes more than good intention and belief in yourself to win it. You can't isolate yourself from corrupting elements coz after all said and done, the ball still lands on their court. Nation wide political acceptance is a big factor, war chest and political party will determine how penetrating your porpularity will go. All the noise about him being the best is hokum-bokum, nobody gives a head how many thieves he caught and didn't catch as the head of EFCC, he can only fool uninformed Nigerians about his record not people like me. He tried though but he was OBJ's lapdog afterall. Like somebody rightly described him, he is a joker in the whole equation, the north will never use him as a plan B not when there is a Buhari looming large, may be OBJ might want to use him should GEJ not make it but I highly doubt that, GEJ will be crazy to hold the Ace and still lose to a lightweight like Atiku. My take is that if IBB had emerged the consensus candidate, he would ve been a bull to GEj but Atiku?
Anyway, the two ppl am root out in the coming elections are GEJ or Buhari, God forbid, I will waste my vote on Atiku or any joker from the ACN, is that party a regional social political party or sth, rubbish.

It finally hit me, Like Tina did Ike in Limo, it will finally hit me. . Scheeew. . .what's love got to do with it. . .when he hits you like a punching bag. . .who needs a heart when a heart can be broken. . . The lady reminds me of Ike and Tina Turner, just that in her own case, she is dumb.

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@Kobojunkie I use to believe you're one of the very few "GROWN-UPS" still hanging out around here but from your penchant at THROWING INSULTS FIRST, anytime you want to make a rejoinder, l can see that l was really mistaken!
I would not go down the road of GUTTER LANGUAGE with you cos l remember that while growing up, one of the morals instilled in us by our parents is that "what you say and how you say it" is an accurate reflection of your upbringing.

Having said that, "A company like Etisalat, (A CORPORATE BODY) did make an advert in billboards all over the place, promoting its "corporate product and boosting its corporate image". In that advert, the company substituted NIGERIA for NAIJA!

[size=16pt]Now if that is not "official circles", someone's academic pedigree and intellectual capacity needs to be properly investigated![/size]

In my own opinion, Dora Akinyilu has done brilliantly for this country. If a quarter of the noise-makers on this forum can do a quarter of what she's done, Nigeria would have improved a lot better.
The Information Ministry is like putting a square peg in a round hole, it does not fit the personality of someone who is "brash, blunt, straight-shooting and consumed in fervor"! She's just trying to "do something" in that Ministry. I hope she goes back to her first love, the "Health Industry".

Like l said, l am very selective about the caliber of people l take-up issues with, on forums (and this is no disrespect to anyone but just a wise choice concerning "resource" management) since the internet anonymity means "the doves and the chickens" got to roost together!

So, dont expect further rejoinder on this, from me.

. . . Your opening statement got me cracking. . Lol. . Seriously, you seem not to know who Kobowhatever is. . . It is a waste of time arguing with her, you know how frustrating it is arguing with a person who only sees her own points regardless of whether they are based on facts or just stupid logic that is in paralell with what is obtainable. Nobody is well-intentioned in her all knowing eyes, everyone is a lier especially if you are Nigerian and live in Nigeria or a government official. Even when she has little knowledge of what she is talking about, she will never let up and learn, as in. . . typical ITK. I bet she is privy to information as to who and who is using Naija as a substitute to Nigeria than the Information Minister herself, there are no reports of any official use? This girl obviously is a Togolese. A church sign in Hong kong has John 3:16 and the Inscription: "it is not everything that google can find" on an ad board by the side of the church, I didn't understand it until I saw that dumb statement. Who does not know big companies now use Naija? "Power of Naija" is a Guiness Theme Song by some Nigerian Artistes sung to cheer up the National theme, how official can it get singing Power of Naija at the world cup, is a reality Talent Tv Series, there is also the very porpular Etisalat 0809ja ad and so on. Yet the all knowing junky is waiting for an official report, perhaps, google disappointed. . Lol. . Now I see the meaning of that inscription on that Church's board. . Lol. .
Some people just like to drown in their deluded sense grandeur. report my ballZ!