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4rm amarilo,(That is the arguement dude, I guess you did not read this from the rhymz
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What are the historical, economic or academic antecedents of Kaduna in oil and gas production to merit the location of the PTI?

@amarilo,I ask again what exactly is Ur point.
In d name of one nigeria U re going to take advantage of ppl 4rm other region.
Guy,luk at issues for what they and stop making illegimate excuses in the name of one god damn Nigeria.

@amarilo,what exactly is Ur point cos am yet to understand Ur grouch.Pls don't just argue 4 d sake of seeing Ur own post.
Of all the places to site a petroleum institute,U think Kaduna is d best place 4 it.What re d reasons?Is it for political correctness?This idea is borne out of exploitation of d people of d niger delta,kaduna lyk all d other northern states does't ve any precedence in oil exploration,the state is'nt even close to any oil field,there's nothing to suggest that dis idea is viable.The northerners don't beliv in d so-called one nigeria that's why they so brazenly jostle for things lyk dis cos they fear that one day dis oil wealth will dwindle but anyway they re goin to make d most of it while d thieving spree lasts.Come on fellow Nigerians who does't know dat d reason d north wont let go is because of d oil,once it fizzles,U will be surprise they also will want to secede from dis colonial joker called Nigeria.

The PTI in Warri is almost comatose from years of unimproved facilities and sometimes near abandonment. For a fraction of the amount proposed for the new PTI, the one in Warri could have been upgraded to provide the services of a new school.
If there is need for another PTI, it should have been located within one of the universities in the oil producing areas (to save cost) and as a special school to meet the manpower needs of the industry.
The discontent this issue is breeding is capable of washing away the gains government has made from its amnesty to militants in the Niger Delta. Government should act in the national interest by cancelling the PTI in Kaduna, while ensuring the one in Warri works.

The decision insults the people of the Niger Delta. It makes them realise again that government thinks they are unimportant, irrelevant and inconsequential.
Should we not build a new veterinary institute in Bomadi? Would it be out of place to establish a leather institute in Oloibiri? What are the historical, economic or academic antecedents of Kaduna in oil and gas production to merit the location of the PTI?
The oil museum proposed for Oloibiri, site of the first oil well in Nigeria, is still at foundation level, 28 years after the groundbreaking.
At times like these, when government is preaching to the people its interests in the improvement of the oil producing areas, the location of institutions of the PTI, should be one of the carrots that government dangles before the people.
Kaduna cannot be the location of the PTI. There is no good reason for this decision that dares the peoples of the Niger Delta to express their anger.
Government should not repeat the mistake it made with the location of a refinery

Abuja - THE proposed N19 billion Petroleum Training Institute, PTI, in Kaduna is a provocative waste. The Federal Government's silence to mounting opposition to its establishment is instructive, and may be an admission it is wrong. Silence remains inadequate reaction to this matter.
However, the mere thought of this project is offensive, with or without the type of opposition lined up against it. Who conceived this latter day wrong against the Niger Delta? Is this project part of the efforts to correct the injustices against the Niger Delta?
What would be the use of such an institute in Kaduna, more than 300 kilometres from the oil-bearing Niger Delta? Did anyone consider the cost of the students travelling from Kaduna to the Niger Delta to have first hand experience of oil and gas production, which neither takes place in Kaduna, nor in any area near it.
More importantly, it is outrightly insensitive and creates the impression that government does not care how people of the Niger Delta feel.
Continues,

Abuja - THE proposed N19 billion Petroleum Training Institute, PTI, in Kaduna is a provocative waste. The Federal Government's silence to mounting opposition to its establishment is instructive, and may be an admission it is wrong. Silence remains inadequate reaction to this matter.
However, the mere thought of this project is offensive, with or without the type of opposition lined up against it. Who conceived this latter day wrong against the Niger Delta? Is this project part of the efforts to correct the injustices against the Niger Delta?
What would be the use of such an institute in Kaduna, more than 300 kilometres from the oil-bearing Niger Delta? Did anyone consider the cost of the students travelling from Kaduna to the Niger Delta to have first hand experience of oil and gas production, which neither takes place in Kaduna, nor in any area near it.
More importantly, it is outrightly insensitive and creates the impression that government does not care how people of the Niger Delta feel.
Continues,

The PSC officials who preferred anonymity said that states badly affected are those within the South West and the northern parts of the country.
One of the sources who was in charge of the exercise in Lagos, gave a clean bill of health to those recruited by the Lagos State Police Command.
According to our investigations, 500 constables are without the basic entry qualifications into the force.
, Hahahahahaha, What a country!

Written by Daily Independent
Wednesday, 08 July 2009 04:15
The ongoing credentials check of members of the rank and file in the Nigeria Police Force initiated by the management of the Police Service Commission (PSC) has unmasked several constables within the service without the requisite basic qualifications, including primary and senior secondary school certificates.
Daily Independent gathered that the PSC officials who were in the 31 states of the federation and the Federal Capital Territory (FCT), Abuja for the exercise were stunned that over 1,500 constables are without the basic entry qualifications into the force.
The PSC officials who preferred anonymity said that states badly affected are those within the South West and the northern parts of the country.
One of the sources who was in charge of the exercise in Lagos, gave a clean bill of health to those recruited by the Lagos State Police Command.
According to our investigations, those badly affected by the screening are police recruits of 2000.

I don't remember U being my broda,I am a twin and beliv me,my twin bruv is way too intelligent,he won't even giv U any audience,if he percieves Ur shallowness and Ur shitty views.
Like I said b4,U can continue Ur shit talk as long as U don't call any1's name.
As for hangin out with U, Hahahahaha, Don't push Ur luck,U re only allowed to wish kid!
As for xchanging ideaz with U,U must ve been in planet pluto not to ve noticed dat am so done with doing dat with U,bsidz U dont ve any idea, screws,nuts,cut & slice aint ideas,even d dumbest kidz ve all dat.Incase U ve'nt noticed U ve bored d thread with Ur shouting,grouches &whinning.Like my friend use to say:if U love "Glass" without the G,and i to take away d L whateva is left is wat U re, Get a lyf child!

Those pointing at the GSM revolution as his legacy are poor students of history.
IBB initiated the deregulation of telecommunication and electronic media. We cannot point at what was done with the over $ 900 million license fees paid by the GSM operators.
We have heard of Obasanjo owning greater shares of Transcorp. Yet, he was fighting corruption. This is a man that in 1999 had not more than N22,000. While making sure Nigerians do not enjoy steady power supply, about four years ago he tried to ban the importation of electric generators.Was is it d kabal he helped in setting up in d NNPC Dat ve made petroleum products,d lykz of Dangote,Femi Otedolla & co ve become billionairz through d worst biz practices,politically ousting out competitorz no thanx to dat belligerant fool,Obasanjo.Obasanjo is not just the worst ruler we ve had,he also gave corruption a new name,impetus & institutionalized it.But in the eyes of his Myopic tribes men(not all though),he is a saint,d best thin to happen to Nigeria.Wat a shame!!

Those pointing at the GSM revolution as his legacy are poor students of history.
IBB initiated the deregulation of telecommunication and electronic media. We cannot point at what was done with the over $ 900 million license fees paid by the GSM operators.
We have heard of Obasanjo owning greater shares of Transcorp. Yet, he was fighting corruption. This is a man that in 1999 had not more than N22,000. While making sure Nigerians do not enjoy steady power supply, about four years ago he tried to ban the importation of electric generators.Was is it d kabal he helped in setting up in d NNPC Dat ve made petroleum products,d lykz of Dangote,Femi Otedolla & co ve become billionairz through d worst biz practices,politically ousting out competitorz no thanx to dat belligerant fool,Obasanjo.Obasanjo is not just the worst ruler we ve had,he also gave corruption a new name,impetus & institutionalized it.But in the eyes of his Myopic tribes men(not all though),he is a saint,d best thin to happen to Nigeria.Wat a shame!!

@Osisi,I lyk d satire in Ur post,hahahaha, D questionz U asked at d end waz so for funny, I just couldn't stop myself 4rm lafin.Right on point bruv.
Fact is,One does't ve to be ibo to see foolishness and d sectarian bent of mind,i could swear dis hater is high on cheap whiskey, Cos obviously his brain is not in control of anything dat he writes.

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@Osisi,I lyk d satire in Ur post,hahahaha, D questionz U asked at d end waz so for funny, I just couldn't stop myself 4rm lafin.Right on point bruv.
Fact is,One does't ve to be ibo to see foolishness and d sectarian bent of mind,i could swear dis hater is high on cheap whiskey, Cos obviously his brain is not in control of anything dat he writes.

@dat slowpoke,Bilymuse,May amadioha strike U dead for mentioning my name in Ur brainsless posts.
I refuse to demean myself by coming down to Ur lvl,is it by force?Nigger am way above Ur league in every standard,shoe dey get size,homeboy go find Ur own,am above Ur average and I dont do kiddy stuff,what part of "4ck off" is it dat Ur thick empty head can't comprehend,is it d "4CK" or d "OFF",tell me so I can make it simple for Ur kid mind, Go on & write Ur shit,i dont giv a 4ck if Ur parentz re dumb and stupid so long as U don't extend dat stupiditiy to me,U can crash and burn to ashes.Nigga if U hate my gutz all U need do is to put a 9milimeter to Ur lame brain, Kpo!And you ve Ur brains splattered all over da place,d world wont miss U,gudnews is,muda4ckin hate mongers would ve reduced by one.igbos will continue to succeed so lazy idiotz lyk U can whine and whine and we go dey make d dough,dey smile to d bank and continue to expand so more loserz & gud4notin wimpz lyk U can get heartattacks and goose pimplez.

The last thing I will do is to give impetus to any gibberish 4rm a dingbat failure,U can continue to whine in U misery,dat's Ur own cup of tea.I thought I could engage U, bilymouse in an issue based discussion,however,nothing abt Ur lame and vain postz re intellectually stimulating,giving reply to jejune claim will be lowering d standard of d kinda I.Q dat I engage.Am not here to incite hate but to put issues in perspectivez with factz and figurez.U can continue to hate igbo it's OK as long as U don't cross d line,just as there's no cure for racism,so is there no cure for tribalism but dat wont stop us 4rm succeeding,dat's one thing we re gud at.Like Pastor Chris will say,when d wheel of progress in motion is in motion,d wise and hardworking ppl move with it while d lazy,tribalists like bilymouse stand and stare in surprise and ask otherz,"what's going on?"i will only reply intelligent posts henceforth & I advise other intelligent ppl to dsame,bilymouse U can say shit to make Urself feel gud dat's Ur probs.

@Bilymuse,am lafin hysterically cos obviously U re worn out,datz what U get when U argue without facts with ppl who re obviously & overwhelmingly intelligent dan U re.Dis is not Iya basira amala joint,dis is a civilized clime we don't serve amala,gbegiri,round abt and fufu,we serve pure knowledge grounded in facts and intelligence.Dat publication is lyk 3yrz old and is a testimony of igbo ppl's resilience & success story, Thanx for posting it(lmao),we ve even had a debate on it be4 on nairaland,my guezz is,U curled it 4rm dis site, Hahahahaha, Lazy Chump.

@Poster,U ve done a very nice job of bringing dis article to NL.
I personally think dat cross-river is being treated unfairly and to even think dat Akwa Ibom re not willing to let go to sth they never had, shows how insensitive Nigerians can be to d plight of dier fellow as long as it's not dem who cares,dis waz dsame reason,I raised an alarm here dat D JTF was bombing innocent childrien & women in gbaramatu and ppl made very insensitive comments abt it.I was realy disappointed,esp in my south western friends am not even talking of NL here,am talking of many of my Yoruba friends here in lag dat gave dier support to it.Anyway,lets pray dat Yaradua does d morally right thing.Cos I know some states will want it dat way so dat d 13% dat goes to Cross river wil be shared among dem.Akwa Ibom show some love don't be greedy,Until today ppl still refer to dem as calabar,cross river has given dem so much help,they don't deserve 2be treated dis way and dis might generate hate if not handled well.

D debate/accusation spree is getting hot and some ppl re already exausted in d brain,no meaningful reply.Ikey just got on d nerves of my Yoruba brotherz stating d very plain fact that they so quickly 4get when dey engage in d finding fault game of condeming otherz.
@Bilymuse,I guess U re still recuperating 4rm d very bitter truth dat U tribe is just as bad and even worse when U consider dat they re d northernerz ve been xchanging power since afta d civil war and yet Nigeria has been worst off.What re U gonna do now dat d shit has hit d fanz.I guez it will make more sense to U if we continue to dig out our shit as a tribe and as a nation and den U will see dat no one tribe is not guilty of complacency is just dat yorubas re d most complacent when U consider thier contributionz to d problemz.I ve alwayz tell my yoruba friendz each we argue dat Awolowo isn't a national hero as yorubas try to paint him,he was a regional leader whose policies only benefited his ppl but i trust yorubaz dem no go gree, Hehehehe

Hahahahaha,, Ikeyman00 U re a firebrand am realy impressed by Ur knowledge of d goings-on in Nigeri,U realy re a match 4dat No2atheism or wateva.When I see ibo ppl articulate dier views like U ve done,i feel so proud to be igbo.Anyway U ve answered d guy well,d problem is these guyz re so quick to point accusing fingerz without talking abt dier shortcomings which is even worse,it's good dat he got a very intelligent reply 4rm and I lyk d way U stated out d problemz in his euphoric perfect Yorubaland cos me I don't even ve time to reply any arguement dat lackz objectivity and factz,just accusationz upon accusationz with no ounce of truth.U realy fit dat guy well well,until they start talking with facts we can continue to list each other's short comings cos they seemed to ve 4gotten dat Yoruba ppl re'nt perfect and they ve contributed to d problem of Nigeria dan any other tribe,they ve a very bad habit of condoling d excesses of dier bad leaderz while condeming dose of otherz.

@No2atheism,do U ve proofs?Hahahahahaha, Or U going to make wild claims as usual.U live in d UK right?Pls don't disappoint Ur likes,i understant internet is cheap and very fast over there,right.Pls take Ur time and do ur research,come up with factual claimz to back up Ur point,intelligent ppl don't deal in hear-say but facts.Go to d law courts,no body gives a damn abt what U think or feel if it lackz fact to authenticate it.Men!U should be wiser,so argue with a degree of facts.Like they say in journalism,"opinionz re free but facts re sacred".Even d free opinion should be borne out of informed knowledge,one should not comment on things he/she does't ve knowledge of.
So if U ve any geniune probz,not wild claimz and guesses with igbos bring it on,make sure U ve facts,only then will we engage U.And we shall stimulate our knowledge.

@ALL,guyz abeg make una ask am to come out with proof of any publication,link or report to back up Ur claims of ibo pple manipulating d mrkt or where igbos ve stopped any tribe 4rm engaging in dsame biz as them.Am not going to glorify stupid arguements dat reeks of hate.Bilymuse or wateva is tryin to pitch ibo ppl against d Yorubaz but sorry cos even d Yorubas and other non ibgos and non yorubas ve seen thru Ur empty head.They know better dan to join a fool in a very flawed arguement.Me 4 instance,i was born in lagos & ve liv'd here all my life,if I decide to start a biz ofcourse i'll kick off 4rm lagos and guez what line of biz?Hahahahahaha, @Bilymuse, I see Ur goose pimpled face is already red with envy.I ve a lot of Yoruba friendz and they will curse Ur generation if they know a yoruba lad painted them as tribalists,unintelligent,inarticulate,inexposed,uninformed,lazy and childish people as U ve done.
Dont be lazy,google out proofs to back Ur claim then we can talk to U & educate U.

Hahahahahaha, Bilymuse right?That's Ur username,LOL,i think I ve made my points loud and clear,no need to waste my time talking to an incurable tribalist,U don't ve views on issues,most of d tribalist viewz U ve xpressed here can be picked up in d gutterz of oshodi,orile,ajegunle & d likes,they re mostly views of "them say" "them say" U can go & discuss dis with fellow thugz & street urchines like Urself.Ur arguement is void of articulation,intelligence grounded in facts,sophistication of idea presentation & knowledge of history,ur arguement is not for a civilized clime lyk NL,Dis isnt d Amala joint in mushin or kilo where where U discus mumbo-jumbo with ppl of little intelligence.I ve seen tribalists with better articulation of dier slant views but never d less they were very convincing.In Ur own case U ve been swinging like a pendilum to & fro without any proof of anything U make westernerz luk bad and unintelligent.Stop throwing temper tantrums lyk a spoilt child.I ask again,where re Ur proofs.

ppl dat re saying d man is right re misunderstandin those of us dat re stroking dat "stupid vulva"(4giv my lang,am just pissed) they call Atiku.We all know our education sector is deplorable but for dat lame-brain to even insinuate anything dat distance him 4rm d problem is hypocritical,dis was d chair of PTDF what in christ's name did he do with d money they got?PTDF was set up by government to assist in government developmental goalz esp in education,d ETF Labs,hallz,hostelz book subsidy etc.Some say Obj couldn't ve allowed him and U 4get he had a fallout with his boss due to superiority party control shit,if he waz so passionate abt education he should ve taken Obj on education with d passion d two foolz fought and destroyed dis country because of party control and stupid personal fight of superiority.Let him go and crash and burn abeg afteral he was able to found ABTI university in his homestate OBJ didn't stop him.

@bilymuse,Dis shows U don't do any proper research b4 U post Ur gibberish,U don't even remember d rubbish U claimed in Ur first post,i see sb is suffering 4rm intellect myopia,let me refresh Ur porous memory,In Ur own words U wrotethe Ibo's control more than 70% of Nigeria economy),in order words,they dominate d economy,re dis lame-brained dat U don't even remember d nonsense U even write?U must be suffering 4rm Schizophrenia cos obviously Ur sick mind is not in consonance with d shit dat is Ur head.Nigga stop lukin 4 useless non-existent fault.Lastly,take time to understand what U read b4 rushing to reply blindly,Ur contradictionz re just too much,guy display some lvl of intelligence for 4ck sake,stop writing like a slowpoke.

Those of Us here that make wild claims lyk igbos re greedy,they re not united,they like money,they re agg ressive and all dat.My question to U all is to show me any tribe in dis Nigeria dat does't ve all dese traits for God sake.
4rm research ppl come to say igbos lyk money not because they re a corrupt sect but because of dier lov for trade & commerce,Onitsha used to be d largest mrkt in Nigeria dat'z to show U d degree of dier love for it & even dis has its disadvantage,in Anambra 4instance there re more gals in sch dan boyz because most of dem re engaged in trade & commerce.
When ppl say they re aggressive,i luk at ppl lyk Dangote,Otedole,IBB,Adenuga,Abacha etc who ve used dif proxies & unscrupulous means to aquire all d big FG investments way below dier value coupled wit Obj's complicities in all these,these crooks ve formed a powerful kabal dat has held dis country prostrate to d ground,which one of dem re igbos & which is more aggressive?Pls save me d hypocrisy in ur arguement.Shall continue in my nxt post.

@bilymuse, Afta U finished shonting Urself in d foot with Ur inaccurate analysis of d economy,U even contradicted Urself when U said d real economy constituded farming,small scale industry & trading let me add more since Ur little mind does't know much besidz what prejudiced grandpa told U,there is also d banking industry,manufacturing,entertainment induestry & d real estate.Now if all these sectorz make up our economy how then can any intelligent,unbias,straight thinking Nigerian claim d dominance of d economy by d igbos.
Ur likez re just blinded by envy for the success of dat tribe inspite of d deliberate attempt be d rest to keep them at bay.Ur hate has impared Ur sense of judgement,equality & objectivity,U can't see pass d overwhelming hate in U.Ur type of Nigerian is an example of d kind of Nigerian we don't want.No tribe can claim to ve contributed more to d oness of dis country dan d igbos,so U stupid question is meaningles.

@bilymuse,Ur claims re baseless,show us a proof where it's alleged dat d ibos deny other ethnic group entry into d mrkt,what do U mean by 'mafioso'?do U xpect d ibos to run a campaign to teach otherz how to do biz?Or U xpect dem to divulge dier competitive leverage to otherz?Pls I demand again be constructive in Ur criticism.U & I know d type of trade/biz d igbos re into don't just say they dominate trade without giving elaborate xplanationz.Northernerz dominate d trade in agriculture,Forex,our military & even politicz/power why do U not ve any problem with those.Westernerz re d real ppl dat dominate d control of d financial system/economy,most of d FG parastatals re dominated by dem,d ppl dat ve looted dis country dry re'nt d ibos,so why re U ranting.Or U fear dat a ppl who re'nt government dependent could go this far.
U don't ve anythin concrete to say against d igbos besides stupid childish rantingz,wild claims &guesses steming 4rm deep seated mix of fear & hate for sth Ur likes can't conquer.Get a lyf

@bilymuse,Ur claims re baseless,show us a proof where it's alleged dat d ibos deny other ethnic group entry into d mrkt,what do U mean by 'mafioso'?do U xpect d ibos to run a campaign to teach otherz how to do biz?Or U xpect dem to divulge dier competitive leverage to otherz?Pls I demand again be constructive in Ur criticism.U & I know d type of trade/biz d igbos re into don't just say they dominate trade without giving elaborate xplanationz.Northernerz dominate d trade in agriculture,Forex,our military & even politicz/power why do U not ve any problem with those.Westernerz re d real ppl dat dominate d control of d financial system/economy,most of d FG parastatals re dominated by dem,d ppl dat ve looted dis country dry re'nt d ibos,so why re U ranting.Or U fear dat a ppl who re'nt government dependent could go this far.
U don't ve anythin concrete to say against d igbos besides stupid childish rantingz,wild claims &guesses steming 4rm deep seated mix of fear & hate for sth Ur likes can't conquer.Get a lyf

@Poster
U fault d fact dat ibos re evrywhere trading as if they achieved dat feat without hardwork & discipline.In Ur mayopia,U claimed dat Ibos dont allow otherz to thier mrkt,what a lie?I trust, an informed person cut U to shape on dat one so I wont belabor dat point but don't 4get dat if U re bringin biz to d east make sure U re prepared for biz datz wat dey,dont xpect easy entry.
U even made a very stupid statement dat realy sucksAn average Ibo man is better off financially than any other Nigerian.) how does dis count against him?it's obvious U re gropin in dark 4 faults where there re none.
When U say domination i lyk to understand Ur point cos obviously U re a kid regurgitating what grandpa said,U don't ve any view of Ur own bsidz d bandwagon jargon U hear.Are u saying an ibo leader wil take job away 4rm otherz & giv it to ibo?Or re U afraid of competition 4rm d Ibos?Do U ve any proof to most of d reckless claimz U make hear?
Until U argue constructively,it's better U keep shut!

I can't beliv some supposed enlightened ppl will argue like kids without an ounce of knowledge of what they argue.
@Poster wat actually is Ur aim in making spurious claims in Ur post,Ur arguements re so baseless that they re not worthy of answerz.But for d sake of other Nigerians,esp d very young ones who re'nt knowledgeable enuf to see d loopholes in Ur brouhaha.
In Ur delusions U claim that ibos dominate d economy,i wonder where U picked dis 4rm.D layman definition of an economy is d careful Management of wealth,resources & means of production.d igbo man is not is not d one controlling d resources(which is controlled by d FG dominated by d north) of dis country neither is it d igbo man dat manages d resources(the financial Mrk which is dominated by d west) of dis country how can U den claim dat d igbos control 70% of d economy?Igbos re heavily engage in commerce by virtue of dier nature & not politics,& they ve'nt stop any1 4rm doing dsame,read history b4 U come out & make lame arguements.
see my nxt post

I think d lady dat wrote dat letter feels dsame way like i do.
We can continue to blame Mr Abati's generation but that wont solve d problem.A friend of mine was shocked to learn dat i did't ve any nigerian song in my phone & laptop,he said i was't a thru a naija.I laf'd cos realy i am more naija dan he is if eva there was a contest & he admits cos majority of d time he's not in naija.What am tryin to say is dat our music has grown in terms of acceptance,technology & marketing but when it comes to msg,ability to use it as a force for social change it's lacking evrything.Am not even sure if we ve genres in our industry.Music is suppose to entertain &educate but our own suituation is different.Our music is just hype & no substance.My fav re stil d old meaniful evagreens.I don't giv a dam abt dier personal lyfs or stage name what I want is gud music,MJ,2pac,Whitney Houston,Madona,B.I.G made & stil making very gud music inspite of dier horrible lyfstyl.If U say U re a professional pls act it.