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POPE II: I know I was kinda talking in general, before harvesting the,parish always sets a goal to reach, building toilets in the church, replacing seats etc and the goals are made known for everyone , also the amount of money is made public every Sunday, I have found myself giving money thrice in. One mass it is not a big deal sometimes I came unprepared so I don't even participate etc , as a Catholic you shouldn't b focused much on this aspect, Germans catholics and British catholics/christians have taxes on their revenues.

Anyway brother can you tell us more ? What exactly does your priest do ? I'm confused a little bit we are talking about your story or the story in the linkyou posted above?
I'm not going to lie oo I really don't believe the story of this sagakuchi never heard before that the names of donors are made public or that they are called to receive special benedictions ,God forbid. Maybe his priest is an ex pastor

I have not seen such in my own parish/diocese... But where I have witnessed it are diocese of Isselu-Uku and Warri.
The main one that disturb me the most is the introduction of football fans during launching, thanks giving and harvest. At first, it started with the calling of fans of different club to file out for thanksgiving. Later, they modified it and it went to a full competition of having knock-out stages. For example, on a certain sunday, they will put up a draw of maybe chelsea vs liverpool, arsenal vs man u, etc... Probably that will be the quater final stage. Then at the semi final stage, it will be a draw of the club whose fans donated more money on head to head basis in the previous round. Parishioners are really complaining but dont know why the bishop have to allow such practices. It seems to be promoting worldly things like football. Am not against giving to the church, its just the means that gets me pissed off.

POPE II: there is nothing wrong in giving money to your church/Catholic church , at least we see where the money goes unlike in some erm I did not say anything . Anyway in the best of my knowledge tithes are not mandatory in the catholic church I mean priests don't harass people for it. So my advice to you is to pay what you want when you have or want ,however if you still have some doubts about what your priest is doing with the money you can ask him directly

I never said there is anything wrong... But its the means by which they go about it that get me concerned.

To make it easier, I will be listing some real issues (one after the other) with the way some parishes scout for money, so that we can have a more precise discussion.

Will be back after praying my Rosary...

Hello all... I have been having a hard time coming to terms with the way some parishes scout for money. I even have it in mind of opening a thread about it but on a second thought I decided to bring it out here on this thread for a more quite discussion. Now, thank God someone have made my workload easier by opening a similar thread about it. No I want us to discuss about this. Here is the link to the thread...
https://www.nairaland.com/1538429/catholic-church-turning-pentecostal
This has become a serious issue that most time, people change parish whenever there is/are lauching/harvest @ their base parish cos of time spent on this program... Will be back.

Hmmm... Viewing someone with my night googles.

Hello... Is there any broker that accept payment with Mastercards or any Nigerian cards.

Happy new month to you all... May God's protection see us through this month and other months of our life through Christ our Lord...

Sal C: Happy new month to my brethren in the house,

POPEII, FrancisTony, Rich4god my son, Italo,Woky,Syncan, Ubenedictus, babestell, Maria Gorreti, mykindofperfect, Jrbayano Nonso23, Okpurukata, Mr Aladin, Richieboyn, Chidima, Thersa, Adesua veronica,Unongu,damerry, cypher cypher, Chukwudi44, stricktlymi, Nomski0, engrtee, leon12

May God almighty bless,uphold, protect, preserve and grant you your utmost heart desire as we step into this new and blessed month in Jesus name Amen.

Please if I didn't mention your name, kindly pardon me, but bear in mind you are so so blessed.

GREETINGS FROM SAL C

Thanks mumsi... Which day we go go market for Xmas shopping.

harbiola1: You christians eh, u're like hmm. u just like acting like a computer with an outdated os.
That one called himself a pastor, yet practising Slandering capped with hypocrisy. Should i blame him, honestly i'm nt suppose to blame him but what taught him.
Not all muslims are terrorist but all terrorist are muslim, but none of them will comment on those christians terrorist killing innocent people.

Islam was spread by Sword.

Christianity was spread by Bombs and Guns.

40% died in the hand of Muslims.

60% died in the hand of Christians.

Christians have worst record of misuse of political power.

Joke of the century...
Do you mind explaining that in bold.

Mujah1deen: answer my questions please

Mujah1deen: Please this question is very important, any bright Christian?

What other question are we to answer... I have shown to you what muslims do and how they react to actions of presumed extremist. So for me, there is no line to be drawn. I assume all muslims to be extremist (sorry it may sound harsh, but thats my own view) except for our yoruba muslims whom I know are good and for the little few I have encountered and have proven to me that they are not extremist. These are the ones that I can vouch for.

Can someone plz upload a good indicator for me to study and use.. Will really appreciate.

Richieboyn: Ehen.hwfa na? Peace be with yu all.

(breathes on thread and zooms off).

You lick tom-tom... abi na close-up you wan advertise for us.

Fulaman198: I was giving examples, there are many others.

Can you name any dominant Christian countries that permit Islam and don't discriminate against it?

Nope there are no many others... You can name them... But if you want an example of Christian countries, the list is endless. Eg Norway, Brazil, Mexico, Filipino... Do you still want more. In all these countries I named, there are news of converts to Islam but no dust will be raised. Can same be said of Islamic countries. Moreover, you still havent shared light on the marriage issue I raised in my previous post. Lets be realistic and stop fooling ourself. You guys cry aloud of been discriminated against, whilst in essence its as a result of your activities. Lets take for instance, there are two communities living peaceful in a certain area. As time passes, some certain individuals in commuinity A starts attacking community B frequently. Community A are fully aware of attacks on community B by certain individual from their own community and refuses to condem the attack(for reasons which community B dont know). Now community B decides to start taking desperate measure on A by always monitoring their movement and restricting them from certain areas in community B. All of a sudden, community A start crying foul that they are been discriminated against whilst the problem started from them. This is how it is... You cant complain of discrimination when you guys allowed the bad egg among you to make Islam to be a religion with violence written all over it. Its just like what is happening to Nigeria now. Once you are outside the country with a green card, all immigration officers will keep an eye on you cos of what they believe that Nigerians are capable of doing. And this is what we Nigerians brought upon ourself. I dont blame any one that carries the notion of "all muslims are not terrorist but all terrorist are muslims"... Its equally as the outsiders will say that any African caught in crime might/is a Nigerian. So plz, save us all the innocent look you are trying to put up. You guys created your problem and even in the next generation to come, thats if muslim didnt put up corrective measures, then we will still see Islam/muslims as = violence/terrorism.

Fulaman198: That's not necessarily true. Those are poor practitioners of the religion. What about Dubai UAE for example or Abu Dhabi UAE?

Why name only the UAE... How about other Islamic countries... Where freedom is really restricted. Why do Islam allow a muslim man to marry non-muslim, but not vice versa... Does that show equality. Also why is it allowed for a non-muslim to convert to Islam, but it becomes a crime when a muslim tries to do so.

to add to the list, you and I know that Islam dont give liberty to non-muslims as they enjoy from them. I dont need to explain this you.

POPE II: my brother ooo I didn't know, Abeg don't kill me , Sal c don reject my papal resuscitation , so nothing dey happen

Why she no go reject am... Cos she know say her son go fit do am.

Good morning all... Am not really viewing anyone from the pews... Maybe I have to climb to the altar. Today is saturday, if you are try... Try to go for 3 o'clock divine mercy prayer or better still, you can say it from your home.

POPE II: *mouth to mouth resuscitation*

Why will you be the one to resuscitate her while am around... Dey tell u say I dey travel like woky.

[quote author=Maria-Goretti]no mind me, I be typical village girl o

ami o[/quote]Typical village girl with smart phone... Thank God am still viewing you.

Sal C: This my 13th child will not burst my belle oo

Mumsi... No worry, 1 day I go suprise you.

[quote author=Maria-Goretti]I don ffollow Jessus,son of david dey beg make im have mercy on you.[/quote]Falls from choir stand... Lafing like woky.

[quote author=Maria-Goretti]FrancisTony talk nah.

infact, come inside. no peeping allowed.[/quote][quote author=Maria-Goretti]hei,mbanu. no negative talks

but you can just say hi and join the convo when you feel the need to. inugo?

abeg, visit more often.[/quote][quote author=Maria-Goretti]FrancisTony talk nah.

infact, come inside. no peeping allowed.[/quote]... Shey una don see why we dey advote MG to be assistant secretary... You and Sal C are warm in you approach... But wait, how many children you get, cos Sal c get 12 apostle + 1 = 13 children... Who knows, your own fit be the 72 disciples + x... I think its time I start viewing you though not from behind, but from the Altar.

From my own point of view... No one is calling muslims terrorist, but the name Islam have been drag to the mud by people and group who claim to be muslims and claim to fight the course of Islam. We all know that terrorism/violence runs across race/tribe or religion but in Islam, it seem to be more pronounced cos when a terrorist who claim to be fighting an Islamic course attacks the populace, the muslim community seldomly speak against them or renounce them. But if by chance, an individual or a group say/do something bad against Islam even if it were to be by mistake. Then the whole Islamic community will rise against them by means of protest, sometimes by resorting to violence. Now take for instance, Mexico is a Christian country, and some individuals/groups are involved in drug pushing and some other violence. But never will you hear/see those individual claiming to be doing it for the course of Christianity. Other violence in Christians countries, never/hardly will you hear that its course of the christian religion that the are fighting for. Now compare them with violence in Islamic countries. You hear shia members bombing the sunni based on religion ground. You can see the likes of terrorist groups that will quote d koran in their quest for violence and the muslim community wont condemn them... Do i need to start naming those terrorist for you... Now lets come home. In 9ja, we have robbers, kidnappers and even the so called 9ja delta militants who are from the southern part of the country that terrorise the govt and the citizen. Most of these daredevils might be christians, but never a time will you hear them quoting bible and claiming to be fighting for christians. Now compare that to boko harams we have in the north... I dont need to start explaining their Ideologies to you. But in all these, the muslim community wont rise with one voice to denounce them, but will rather take to arms and kill non-muslims at the slightest provocation... Taking instances of the Osama bin Laden riot in 2001, the denmark cartoon riot, the nigerian beauty pagent violence, the list is endless. You and I know that Asari Dokubo is a muslim, but nobody even the media have tagged his militant group to Islam cos we all know what he is fighting for. Now, tell me... What is boko haram fighting for. Let me stop here for now cos if I continue, i might be writing a text book. Remain blessed.

Sal C: Noted

Waits in anticipation... With mouth wide open.

Sal C: You fall? Chai

As you no come carry me when I wake...

St Maria Goretti... I can view you... How is you dad doing...

chidima: Thank God it is friday. May God continue to guide us and increase our faith in him. Amen

Amen my dear... But where you disappear go since...?

POPE II: 1) they are religious prostitute, they go from point A to point B and never stop changing churches/denomination so how do you expect them to die for something like faith when they don't really believe in. anything

2) The Catholic church is the biggest, strongest ,most powerful and wealthiest Christian denomination, so if you want to target Christian you have to attack Catholic, besides we are everywhere, I can also add the fact Catholics are the ones constantly at the front lines, evangelizing pagans and Non catholics , even in hostile countries you will find Catholics , pastcrooks and pasthieves only come when we have Already paved the way


3) weren't you afraid to teach/correct or even ask question to your master/teachers in secondary school? The heretics know their place ,they know we are right and they also know that we are the shield. 2billions no b beans ooo you can also add what our sister Maria said

Proudly Catholic

Nice response... But sound so harsh.

Sal C: I will see what i can do about that.

Its been long I drank coke... Maybe you can add it to the dosage you are giving me.

Syncan: Me thought you've stopped talking in your sleep, seems Sal C will need to increase the dosage of whatever she gives you. You need good rest after your vigil. Sal C please help.

lol.... Falls from my bed out of lafta...

Viewing Syncan... From my dream...