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God in heaven: Hello All,

Due to the bombardment of prayers of christians here on Nairaland to help with the questions from atheists on Nairaland, I the God of Abraham, will answer any questions you have for me. I am omnipotent, omniscient and very capable.

Why do i have the feeling that this moniker might be created by an atheist just to have fun and mock the theist.

Plz, those of you using PD proxy, which server(country) is working now. Myown is just only torrent 1 and its extremely slow, Germany and Nederlands no longer works.

Sending troops to Mali is a welcome development. But the FG should tighten our security so that BH and the likes wont start attacking us and taking hostages in the name of blackmailing the FG to pull its troops out of Mali. Just like what is happening in Algeria, foreign expertrates are being held hostage in a gas company.

Wsdm: I just pity for the poor troops that will be send to that region. Troops that can not be equiped enough to fight a local terrorist group are now send on a suicide mission to go and face a well organized and sophisticated international fighters.

Guy, plz say what you know. Have you seen a fully kit NA on a UN/AU/ECOWAS mission. You think say na all these yeye weapons dem go use go fight for Mali.

One funny thing is that... When the islamic rebels took over the northern part of Mali and were implementing strict sharia law, killing people and destroying great manuments, most muslims were not saying anything. But if unfortunately, the situation in Mali gets tough and then western troops now take over Mali, then the muslims will be shouting that its a war against islam.

@plappville....The tin don taya me... Some of them(muslims) keep saying that islam is a religion of peace, but what we are seeing from most of them is the opposite. One thing i believe though stand to be corrected is that those so called terrorist may not have any religion inclination, but they keep using the loop holes in the quran to carry out attacks and recruite members in the name of figthing jihad. Me thinks that the blame should be on their leaders/imamas who let some misguided few to pass on the hate/violent messages across to the gullible 1s.

[quote author=Ubenedictus][/quote]Ube my brother.. Where have you been. Its been a long time, hope all is well.
Realy missed your posts. Happy new year.

My dear plappville... Take it easy... *winks*

Least i forget... Today, we commemorate the "Baptism of our Lord"... We are reminded of how God revealed to the world who Christ is through the Holy spirit. Matt 3:15-17.
So, enough chop chop still dey my side today... as u choose to call it and i for like invite u bt i knw say u no go cm. Like i said earlier, see you in another thread. Bye. Peace.

plappville: All celebrates on black and white ...dressed like the image with pipe in his mouth...

See therealchop chop people, no be the copy rights...

You are still showing me some peoples culture which has nothing to do with xmas. Have you ever seen xmas celebrants walking around the streets wearing a particular uniform or dressed like a particular image. SMH4U...
Seems like i will stay off from this thread cos you are just running around trying to connect xmas celebration to paganism which you have failed. Before, you said its paganism, then worldly celebration and now you are connecting it to another peoples culture. Please try and be logical in your approach. Well bye from this thread, see you in another. Peace.

plappville: See the celebration day, on 21th december, Sans Sebastien fiestas....

How do explain to God, but God i do my own to please you na..

Consider these period festivals as paganism just as proven by History.

You are just showing me the history of some peoples culture which has no connection with xmas except for the date.

plappville: I ve relatives that live in the Basque country...she told me how they celebrated it there.
its part of the historical xmas feast, same period etc....its from 21th december.
School kids and parent dress with thesame uniform. black hat, ladies tie thier heads. you must wear rope sandals etc etc..

Why you were in the church, they were in the street with this big image.
Then after school close from 22, they now can eat/celebrate with thier family on the 25th. Google Santo tomàs for more details.

And how does this in any way makes xmas celebration paganism/worldly. Any culture/pagans can decide to fix any date on 25th dec, it still doesnt affect the fact that we rejoice over the coming our Lord into this world.
@bolded... Thank God you spotted a difference yourself. So we are not in the same shoes.

pato station: Those who see nothing wrong with this festival should cast their minds back to the time of Moses when Joshua, under pressure from the Israelites made a Golden Calf. While worshipping the calf, the Israelitese claimed that the uncanny festival was "to the Lord". How did the true God react? His anger burned that he almost exterminated those 'stiff-necked' Israelites (Exodus 32:1-33). Justifying this pagan festival will in no way make God happy. Compare Col 2:16,17

@bolded... Where have you seen xmas celebrant worshipping/making sacrifice to an idol. And plz, try to read that chapter very well for full understanding of why God was anoyed with them. @Colosians you quoted, the rule in no way has anything to do with celebration of xmas.

Gboliwe: How would one know something so bad like this would happen? That is why i am sharing this experience though so that good hearted folks will learn and put checks in place to avoid my kind of trouble.
Thank you Rich4God. I like your signature

You welcome my brother... Keep up the good work of helping the poor cos it makes one happy and at peace with himself.
Dont know if you are a catholic, but am a member of St Vincent the Paul, so no work of charity is foriegn to me. Am not surprise at what happened to you cos in my society, we are told to expect the worst just for helping some1 in need.

plappville: Because several scriptures have proved that here, i won't repeat myself, scroll back if you care to!

Nope... The scriptures didnt prove anything. You are only interpreting it to suit yourself. You think i dont study the bible.

plappville: History told you what Xmas is, you said no, i love this feast too much, i must tag it with Christ birthday, that is ur cup of tea bro..everyone is entitle to his or her choice in life.
Christ-like is not how we want it, but How God wants it for us. Traditions of men was supposed to come to an end at the cross.
However, due to mans' inherent disobedience to God and not wanting to follow in His ways, we still have men traditons circulating in the church today.
Many of you Catholics still follow the heathen traditions taught to you through the generations, while few speak Christ on their lips or even know He has saved them...

Ask yourself, if God forgot to instruct the Church to celebrate his Son's birthday. By the way, this feast happens to be a worldly feast, How does this smell Godliness

lol... History didnt tell me anything about xmas. The only thing history said is that pagans had a feast which they celebrate on 25th dec. History didnt say in any way that pagan celebrate/knew christ. We celebrate the birth of Christ on 25th dec, different from what the pagans celebrated. We rejoice for the coming of our Lord into this world, which am pretty sure pagans dont believe in Christ let alone celebrating him.
@first bolded... St Pauls gave out so many teachings/letters to early christians which we still use today, do you consider these teaching as tradition of men cos they came after the death of Christ.
@2nd bolded... So its no longer pagan feast, but worldly feast. SMH.

Wow... Thats one bad of experience. Thank God that it didnt land you into a bigger trouble. My advice to you is that, next time you are helping some1 you dont know much about, try and get 2/3 people that you will explain things to, sort of witnesses. So that when case like this comes up, they will be there for you.

@lovethywillbedon... Thats a nice response. Just waiting for him to respond to your questions.

@bigman... I fully understand your post and your grievances. But i want to let you know that its not only islam that is being attacked. Its just that muslims tend to react to such act that is why any islamic attack by the media doesnt go unnoticed. Am not in any way supporting such media act, but there are so many instances where the media publish cartoons that ridicule the christian faiths... Even films have been produced that totaly tarnish the image of christianity. But why most people dont notice it is that christians turn a blind eye towards it.

Where is kirinwa... The mighty gold trader that make >>>1000pips day. Or didnt he cross into season 12 with us?

plappville: Well, the choice is yours, suit yourself!!! History has defined CHristmas and its origin, but you insist. Its wrong. Suit itself bro.....

I think its you that should suit yourself. Its just because of the date(25th) that makes you connect it with paganism. What will you say of eastern/orthordox catholics that celebrate theirs on jan 7th? or is there another pagan god that is being worship on jan 7th?

plappville: So its all about how you want it not how God wants it??

How do you know that "its not what God wants"...

bigmanahmad: Burning is not a part of punishment in Islam....at least not in this world. Punishment with fire is left to God and that is in the hell
Why people hastily pass punishment?I don't know? It just goes on to show the ignorance in them

Thanks for your response. I think i now have a better understanding on the stand of islam with regards to this issue.

@bigmanamed... Thanks for your response. From your post, i can deduce two points though i stand to be corrected .
1) is that, the qur'an supports a heavy punishment on someone who blasphem against the qur'an (which includes its burning)... if there is a witness.
2)Its wrong for the muslims to just carry out the punishment without proper investigation which include hearing from a witness.
I dont want to talk about point number 1 cos its islamic teaching so, i dont think it realy matter now. But on point number 2, why are muslims(i dont mean all of them) still hasty to pass out judgement (esp the death penalty)on people that blasphem even without investigation, know fully well that the qur'an kicks against it like you just said. Thanks.

surveycash: Buy EU @ 1.310 for 50pips or more

Plz kan you help with and put down on this thread "the position of the pivot point and the price at which market opened for the day. Thanks.

jaymichael: This thread should make the frontpage.

Am not even after the frontpage. I just want to get the right view from muslims before it turns into an argument.(when it makes the frontpage)... Well its left for the mods to decide.

I am not here to bash or belittle any religion, i just want to know what is the stand of the quran/islamic belief on this issue. I have been hearing stories of where muslims miam and kill people that desecrate their holy books. Infact, about two days ago i watched the news on aljizeera where muslims in a pakistani village attacked a police station where a man who was accused of burning copies of the quran is been detained. The villagers broke into the station, brought out the man and burnt him to death chanting and singing "Allahu akbar" and making some islamic comment. My question is, "is this what the quran teaches or is it the people that is taking laws into their hands?"...(which i doubt cos such incidence have happened several times and indifferent countries)... Thanks.

plappville: Ok, i remember you said that.


You are playing with fire.....Were is your location? i should know first...

Hmmm... Am playing with fire. You be volcano?
Are you in 9ja?
I got my base in more than 30 states of nigeria but right now am in kano. So whats your take? Waiting for your reply.

plappville: jeremiah 10 2-3 This is what the Lord says:
“Do not learn the ways of the nations (copy from pagan)
or be terrified by signs in the sky,
though the nations are terrified by them.
3For the customs of the peoples are worthless; (thier traditons/feast)
they cut a tree out of the forest,
and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.

This one na you know o. Am celebrating our Lord Jesus Christ and you are saying am copying pagans. Did the pagans tell you that they too were celebrating Christ.

plappville: The bolded does...Check History how this was celebrated...before the modifiication. God is not in a Pagan feast, He do not listen to all the plenty prayers of this feast days.

Am not celebrating a pagan feast. Am rejoicing that our Lord Jesus came into this world to redeem (me)us.

Zikkyy: come, don't insult me. you think say na only xmas & easter i dey chop rice? My 'choppings' no get ending o! it just that xmas chop chop is special cos i get special time off and i always ensure i make the most of it

Good, even Jesus Christ(was invited to)chop special meal during His time on earth.

plappville: You want to prove that those Scriptures are not directed to to church/people who take part in practice/doctrine of this kind abi?.
So take your time and come back in February, if God permits us..

That part of the scripture was directd to those who are involved in witchcraft, enchantments, idol worship and those who neglect the ways of God which ofcourse am not guilty of. So tell me how that applies to those celebrating xmas/birthday.