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RightChannel:
I do tell you guys to stop being in a haste to comment or type trash. The first one also says idols which are gods. Read verse 8 of that chapter

I said read verse 8, is this your verse 8 of 2 Chronicle 15? Why are you so eager to comment, hope you've not been frustrated already?

AntiChristian:
2 Chronicles
11.At that time they sacrificed to the LORD (Yahweh) seven hundred oxen and seven thousand sheep from all the plunder they had brought back. 12Then they entered into a covenant to seek the LORD(Yahweh), the God (Elohe) of their fathers, with all their heart and soul. 13And whoever would not seek the LORD(Yahweh), the God (Elohe) of Israel, would be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.

Always read before commenting

AntiChristian:
Do open your eyes and see what I typed!
You still comprehend like a toddler!

I said :The Prophet [b]established an Islamic state with an Islamic ruling system which the Sahabas followed![/b]

You are telling lies that I said he created Saudi Arabia!

Why not check your dictionary for the meaning of ESTABLISH? You said your messenger ESTABLISHED an Islamic state, how did I lied against you? You can relief yourself by checking for the meaning

AntiChristian:
So which is superior in those states, the constitution or Shariah?

Did you read this or you just look away because it doesn't favours you?


The adoption of Sharia law violates Article 10 of the Nigerian constitution guaranteeing religious freedom


Should I give you some instances where your sharia law is superior than Nigeria constitution in those states?

AntiChristian:
This is why i hate your Holy Spirit! It takes a while to understand people! Please recharge it.

The number one law in Nigeria is not Sharia but the Constitution of FRN!
The number one Constitution in an Islamic state is the Shariah!

See you have to humble yourself for adequate learning. Since 1999, a declaration of full Sharia law was made in the twelve states as a main body of civil and criminal law in twelve Muslim-majority states. Jihadi Ahmad Sani Yerima the then Zamfara state governor pushed for the institution of Sharia at the state level of government.

The adoption of Sharia law violates Article 10 of the Nigerian constitution guaranteeing religious freedom. You just have to humble yourself and learn is that clear?

AntiChristian:
The Prophet established an Islamic state with an Islamic ruling system which the Sahabas followed!
No mouth shut!

So your prophet established, founded or created Saudi Arabia? Did you know the history of Saudi Arabia at all, did you know the dominant religion in Saudi Arabia before Muhammad forcefully acquired it? Did you want me to expose your religion the more?

Did you just go to Saudi Arabia to perform your idolism without not doing findings on how it was created? smh

AntiChristian:
This is the thought of one filled with holy Spirit!

The rightful thought is that the Shariah ruling in an Islamic state is slightly different from that in a democratic state!

Ahahahahaha Jesus Christ of Nazareth you're still twisting your own words to bring more calamity on thyself.

Your sharia ruling is there in Kano, Kaduna, Sokoto etc states, are you saying the Islam you're practicing in Nigeria is nonsense?

AntiChristian:
No "gods" in the first one!

I do tell you guys to stop being in a haste to comment or type trash. The first one also says idols which are gods. Read verse 8 of that chapter

AntiChristian:
The "gods" are translated from Elohim as your Yahweh!

Where is your source on this? And I will proof to you that Allah is an idol from a reliable source

AntiChristian:
In English the creator is God! All other things people worship apart from God are gods!

Good that you spoken well here, did you now get the context? You can't serve God with any other gods (idols). But your own messenger said kill anyone that renounce his religion from Islam to Christianity or Jews, why is muhammad hatred against Christians and Jews this much?

AntiChristian:
Allah is the only one God!

Why did the same Allah attributed himself to female goddeses in Saudi Arabia, If he is only one God as you said?

AntiChristian:
Which narrator?
Is that how Hadith are interpreted?

Look for the holy Spirit first and come back!

How is your Hadith narrated? I will screenshots now to keep your mouth shut. I am expecting you to say it is da'if

AntiChristian:
Saudi Arabia will pass judgment before sentencing anyone!
And that's the correct judgement!

No jungle justice in Islam!

What are you now insinuating? Are you saying the Islam you're practising in Nigeria is nonsense?

AntiChristian:
Yeah!
Muhammad lived in an Islamic controlled society!
Nigeria is not an entirely controlled Islamic society like Saudi Arabia!

So that is the setting!

For violating apostasy law in Nigeria, are you aware that some people were killed? Is Nigeria an Islamic controlled society like Saudi Arabia

AntiChristian:
Yeah!
Muhammad lived in an Islamic controlled society!
Nigeria is not an entirely controlled Islamic society like Saudi Arabia!

So that is the setting!

But the narrators are not specific or rigid that killing anyone that renounce his islamic religion should base alone in Islamic controlled society or do they?

AntiChristian:
What i sent was a Bible verse!
Why would i be banned?

Did you read where it says gods?

Can you differentiate between God and gods? What category did you placed Allah, is it God or gods?

AntiChristian:
So what is the context there?

And how is it different from below:

1. They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

2) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

Did you read what you sent very well again before you will be banned for another week?

AntiChristian:
Great!
What's the context?

Now back to your question, I gave you different narrations so that you won't say one is da'if

Muhammad as been narrated from different narrators gave a warm instructions to kill anyone that changes his religion from Islam to Christianity, atheism, etc. This is a very clear statement in which you must abide with as a true followers of muhammad

AntiChristian:
Great!
What's the context?

Sunan Ibn Majah 2535

It was narrated from Ibn`Abbas that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“Whoever changes his religion, execute him.”

حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الصَّبَّاحِ، أَنْبَأَنَا سُفْيَانُ بْنُ عُيَيْنَةَ، عَنْ أَيُّوبَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏(‏مَنْ بَدَّلَ دِينَهُ فَاقْتُلُوهُ ‏)‏‏.‏

AntiChristian:
Great!
What's the context?

Sahih al-Bukhari 6922

Narrated `Ikrima:

Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to `Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn `Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو النُّعْمَانِ، مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْفَضْلِ حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادُ بْنُ زَيْدٍ، عَنْ أَيُّوبَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، قَالَ أُتِيَ عَلِيٌّ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ بِزَنَادِقَةٍ فَأَحْرَقَهُمْ فَبَلَغَ ذَلِكَ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ فَقَالَ لَوْ كُنْتُ أَنَا لَمْ أُحْرِقْهُمْ لِنَهْىِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَلَقَتَلْتُهُمْ لِقَوْلِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ مَنْ بَدَّلَ دِينَهُ فَاقْتُلُوهُ ‏"‏‏.‏

AntiChristian:
Where did you find such law in Islam?

Sunan an-Nasa'i 4059

Ibn 'Abbas said:
"The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"


أَخْبَرَنَا عِمْرَانُ بْنُ مُوسَى، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَارِثِ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا أَيُّوبُ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، قَالَ قَالَ ابْنُ عَبَّاسٍ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ مَنْ بَدَّلَ دِينَهُ فَاقْتُلُوهُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏

Lukuluku69:
Lol

Your head need a wobble. In fact several wobbles!

The followers of Prophet Muhammad are the "Objectors and infidels"

Another problem for Islamic world, the last time you said Muhammad was a pagan and now you followers of Muhammad are infidels

Lukuluku69:
No wonder the Christians are anyhow people. You understand nothing.

If we Christians are anyhow people that understand nothing, shall we say Allah was a wayward or he was so stupid to have directed muhammad and his allies to seek for knowledge from the Christians and Jews?


Quran 10:94 Irving & Mohamed Hegab

If you are in any doubt concerning what We have sent down to you, then question those who have read the Book (Bible) before you: Truth has come to you from your Lord, so do not be a waverer;




👉 Shall we know the name of that your damsel?

Lukuluku69:
The "Objectors" are who?

If don't have any inclines on the purport of that verse but you lots like quoting it.

The objectors are you the followers of muhammad and muhammad himself. Allah said if you do not know this, ask the people of The reminder (Jews and Christians).

Had it been if the objectors are infidels or pagans according to your own stylish stupidity, why was Allah directed them to ask the Christians and Jews and not you Muslims?

Lukuluku69:
So, Prophet Muhammad is the Objector to his own Message?

You are too daft, novice, dull, etc Allah was passing a message to muhammad isn't it? Muhammad was the second person here, so how is muhammad now objector to his own message? Is muhammad the author of Quran

You subjected Muhammad to a pagan which I am well pleased with but had it been you are in core Northern Nigeria, you would have become a thing of the past

Allah sees muhammad and you his followers as unlearned persons, he mandanted you to asked Christians and Jews questions that will widen your understanding of basic things but the shame Allah made you to encountered with by revealing this disgraceful verse won't let you surrender yourself for knowledge. Na your problem be that!

This is a clear case with that of Lazarus, we can proceed to your damsel your raised the other time, so who is that damsel?

Lukuluku69:
Dunce, the infidels are the Meccan Pagans.

Why are you people bereft of any sense as this?

The Verse is telling those who oppose/object to the Prophethood of Prophet Muhammad to go ask the Jews if there is any similarities to what he is preaching now with the Message as contained in the Torah.

Gosh...

Fool, numskull is muhammad now mecca pagan? You're a disgrace to Islamic world, muhammad is now a pagan according to your stupidity

You never see where Allah saId Muhammad? This is just a four lines statement but frustration won't let you understand simple comprehension


Quran 10:94 M. M. Pickthall

And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers


Quran 10:94 M. Farook Malik

The Messengers which We sent before you, O Muhammad, were also human to whom We sent revelation. If you, O objectors, do not know this, then ask the people of the reminder (Jews and Christians)


Quran 10:94 Al-muntakhab fi tafsir al-Qur‘an al-Karim

We never sent and inspired before you O Muhammad but men chosen from among the town dwellers whose deeds were natural to man, therefore, you -infidels- may ask those who are well versed in the antecedent Scriptures -Jews and Christians- if indeed you do not know

Allah was a disgrace to his slaves @Lukuluku69

Lukuluku69:
"People send Books" includes Zoroastrians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists.

I can't recall Jesus writing any "Books" though he preached a certain "Injeel" which is just his utterances about the coming Kingdom of God.

But hey if you want to do attachee, you are welcome 😁😁😁

You will cry blood today, Allah has put you to shame

Allah even gave you a special name here, INFIDELS



Quran 10:94 Al-muntakhab fi tafsir al-Qur‘an al-Karim

We never sent and inspired before you O Muhammad but men chosen from among the town dwellers whose deeds were natural to man, therefore, you -infidels- may ask those who are well versed in the antecedent Scriptures -Jews and Christians- if indeed you do not know

Lukuluku69:
Do "Friends" equates to "Disciples"?

The friendship of it has answered your silly question, isn't it?

Lukuluku69:
Can you show me where it said or written in the Bible that Lazarus was a believer in Jesus pre-raising up?

Can you follow someone you don't have believe in?

Lukuluku69:
"People send Books" includes Zoroastrians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists.

I can't recall Jesus writing any "Books" though he preached a certain "Injeel" which is just his utterances about the coming Kingdom of God.

But hey if you want to do attachee, you are welcome 😁😁😁

This is not about Jesus writing a book, this is about Allah instructing you to ask people of the book just because you are not adequately equipped.

I still have many versions that will shocked you, including Arabic texts of it

Lukuluku69 can we proceed to your damsel?

AntiChristian:
Is the thread about Allah praying for Muhammad or for Jesus's claims? I really don't know why you guys like to derail thread when you have nothing upstairs!

You are too dull mehn, how does 1 million Kuwait you want us to pray over for you to get has to do with the topic? When your stupidity is out of control and failure to answer questions, you always found a way moving attention to something similar to your vigorous stupidity and nonsensity

AntiChristian:
So who bangs head on the floor? You are just being asinine here! Which church dey put head on the floor dey pray like Jesus did?

Head slammer asking me who bangs head on the floor. Idolaters such as sango worshipers, etc are the one banging their heads on the floor, they even observed ablution before banging their heads on the ground

AntiChristian:
Show us that Lazarus believed Jesus would raise him up before he was raised?
Show us that the gentile woman Jesus called Dog.....that requested for a miracle for her child, that the child believed in Jesus!.

Jesus performed miracles to prove that he was the divine Son of God, to strengthen the faith of those who believed in him, because he loved and had compassion for those in need, and because of the faith of those who believed

If you need 1 million Kuwait dollars, I will pray for you and you will have it I assure you that

AntiChristian:
How is this related to the thread?

AntiChristian:
Two Questions!
1.Is that a criteria in the Bible for Jesus to answer prayers?

It was related to the calamity you created for yourself not knowing that it will bounce back on you. Jesus prayed to his father, tell this house whom Allah and his angels send their prayers to while praying for Muhammad

AntiChristian:
Biblically Jesus left the world as Jew! Christians no dey put head for ground pray!

This is where your ignorance lies once again, Christians do put head on the floor to pray, we don't bang our heads on the ground as you are known for (Head slammer) in Islam, also we don't perform certain rights like ablution, etc before praying

AntiChristian:
I don't believe Jesus to be more than what he is, a man born by a woman, approved by God, he ate food, slept, sweated, was circumcised and urinated like all other humans!

There's no need calling you a FOOL!

And you want me to pray for you to get 1 million Kuwait right and you don't believe in who I will pray to that will answer your prayer, how would your prayer answered?

AntiChristian:
Jesus prostrated to his God
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” Matthew 26:29

Jesus prayed to his father as I said earlier in response to the question you asked above.

Islamic Allah with his angels prayed to an unknown incarnate when they prayed for muhammad. You need to address that catastrophic in your religion why did Allah prayed to another incarnate if truly he is almighty?

AntiChristian:
Where did Jesus call himself "Lord and Savior"?

Is like asking where did Jesus called himself a Christian when he himself is Christ Lord and Saviour


The 1 million Kuwait you wanted, I am ready to pray for you and if you don't see the answer to that prayer you should call me a FOOL but did you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour?

AntiChristian:
Two Questions!
1.Is that a criteria in the Bible for Jesus to answer prayers?

2.If Jesus can answer prayers, why did he have to pray/fast while on earth?

YES! John 14:14. He prayed to his father in heaven and not like Islamic Allah that prayed to an unknown incarnate along with his Angels when they both prayed for Muhammad


Back to the matter, I will pray for you and you will have such money but did you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour?