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Kobojunkie:
You have to first show that you yourself get sense naw!

The question again

RightChannel:
Let me put it in another way, I want to make sure you get sense


Tell us one of the doctrine preached by Pastors, JUST ONE that was taken directly from the scripts of babalawos that makes MFM members traditionalists according to your stupidity

Kobojunkie:
Again...Look who's talking! I said every doctrine preached by your pastors and mogs is taken directly from the scripts of babalawos. What part of that statement keeps going over your head in this? If the leader is a Babalawo, doesn't that then mean his followers are babalawos-in-training?

I don't need to write anything out because I was clear about what I meant. If you can refute my claim, go for it.

Let me put it in another way, I want to make sure you get sense


Tell us one of the doctrine preached by Pastors, JUST ONE that was taken directly from the scripts of babalawos that makes MFM members traditionalists according to your stupidity

Kobojunkie:
The doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name or God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture.

Let me make it easier for you maybe you'll get sense. Write out one doctrine that was taken from the book of babalawo's craft in which members of MFM are babalawos according to your stupidity

Kobojunkie:
The doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name or God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture.

Sense has elude you, I said bring evidence/proof that MFM members are babalawos. I don't need your story

Kobojunkie:
1. One of them whom? MFM are babalawos hiding behind the many mentions of the God of Israel whom they know nothing of.

Bring the evidence/proof that MFM members are babalawos

danvon:
300 Chibok girls were kidnapped under Jonathan's reign not Buhari

And who brought the boko haram that kidnapped those girls, maybe it was Jonathan you'll tell us

In 1 Timothy 1:10, it was condemned

Let's thank him for insecurity at least some stupid people are benefited from it

Kobojunkie:
Why avoid the traditional religions then?

Are you one of them?

AntiChristian:
You always do this weird generalization which is stoopid! Ahmad was actually mentioned in the Injeel, and your Bible is not Injeel!
You are the destructive generaliser!
Hypocrite!

Can you quote a chapter and verse for us from injeel where Ahmad's name was mentioned

Go to MFM

You guys should wait till after May 29 2023 before rejoicing... You should Remember Abiola hope 1993

delkuf:
you see he couldn't answer the question. That is they go about misleading others.


That is how one evil Jehovah witness said the Lord Jesus Christ is angel Michael

Kobojunkie is just typing nonsense, I have expose him with his own write up and to defend his trash is the problem

Kobojunkie:
Abegi waka pass!

You mean the question is hard for you to answer, you brought this on yourself and to show where you read it from in the book of Exodus is problem

Kobojunkie:
1. So you still don't want to read the book for yourself as you are instead clearly looking to men to continue spoon feeding you as far as what God did in Scripture? When will you people learn?

2. Ignorance is not bliss especially in the information age that we live in.

Where in the book of Exodus did you read it from that the Israelites ask God for a prophet? Very simple and straight forward question, you shouldn't be crying like a new born baby just because I asked you a question

Kobojunkie:
1. It is written right there in the book of Exodus for all who are able to comprehend written language to glean.

Quote the chapter and verse as you read from the book of Exodus

Kobojunkie:
1.
2. Attendance and dependence on your bible classes is probably the reason for your clear ignorance of what is in fact written in the book.

In your own oblivious and obtuse understanding, Israelite asked God for a prophet right? 😂

Kobojunkie:
1. The Israelites asked God specifically for prophets and He obliged them. Does not then mean God Himself needs prophets. No need to create a dilemma where there is none to be had.

So Israelites asked God for Prophet Isaiah, Elijah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Samuel, Amos, Joel, Jonah, Daniel, Aaron, Huldah, Nathan, Enoch, Hosea, Joshua, Gideon, Zephaniah, etc right?

Always attend Bible class if at all you're a Christian. Israelites only asked God for a King and not a prophet

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you are wrong in your assessment of my position! God sent prophets in His Old Law because the people specifically asked Him to do that. Go read through the books of the Law - Exodus in particular - to learn of this. John the Baptist was the last of the Old Covenant Prophets of God, this all a part of the sealing of visions and prophets.

God has not sent any prophets to men after that. Those who teach the Gospel of Jesus Christ are brothers and sisters sent to fish their own brothers and sisters -- Israel. None of them permitted to sit as Prophet, Teacher, Counselor, Helper, etc., over those they are sent to.

In your previous statement you said God doesn't need prophets but you believed that he sent John and Prophets in his old law, why not address your dilemma and confusion first and come here again after regaining your health back?

Kobojunkie:
He actually doesn't need prophets that is why John the Baptist was the last of the prophets sent by God before His New Covenant, Jesus Christ took over. Recall that God said that inHis New Covenant, Jesus Christ, He alone will teach those who would learn of Himself - Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34

You're confusing yourself with this your statement. You said he doesn't need prophets, you went further by saying John Baptist was the last of the prophets which means there are many prophets before John the Baptist. If God doesn't need any prophet, he won't have sent any prophet to teach the truth and interprets his word. That's the point👌

The same way God needs Prophets to teach the truth and interprets the word of God is the same way he needs a son for the redemption of mankind

AntiChristian:
Holy spirit aka Satan revealed that you early this morning?

The foolishness...

allah a.k.a satan

satan is the father of lies (John 8.44) - allah is the greatest of deceivers (Quran 3.54) and encourages lying. (Quran 16.106, 9.3, 40.28)

AntiChristian:
Does the context say otherwise?

Almakara allah has deceived you

AntiChristian:
The context is about Jesus.

Mohsin Khan: And they (disbelievers) plotted [to kill 'Iesa (Jesus) ], and Allah planned too. And Allah is the Best of the planners.

You need to open your eyes or clean it!

Why is Isa name missing in other versions of your Quran?

You need to revisit your quran school and stop displaying foolishness here

AntiChristian:
7 different translations yes! The translations were from Sahih International, Pickthall, Yusuf Ali, Shakir, Muhammad Sarwar, Mohsin Khan and Arberry.

The "7" directly qualifies "translations".

Read your Secondary school Grammar appropriately!

You need to revisiting your Quranic school or whatever school you call it. which of these your 7 different translations ever mention the name Jesus in the Quran, Is your Isa and allah now in the same category? Your foolishness deserves world best!

AntiChristian:
Don't be foolish and dumb like him. Below are 7 different translations about Jesus in the Qur'an.

Sahih International: And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners.

Pickthall: And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.

Yusuf Ali: And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.

Shakir: And they planned and Allah (also) planned, and Allah is the best of planners.

Muhammad Sarwar: The unbelievers plotted and God planned, but God is a much better planner;

Mohsin Khan: And they (disbelievers) plotted [to kill 'Iesa (Jesus) ], and Allah planned too. And Allah is the Best of the planners.

Arberry: And they devised, and God devised, and God is the best of devisers.

AntiChristian:
Of course I am. Go and read 10 different translations of John 3:16 and see that you're inane! The holy spirit don leave you with the devil.

It is no more 7 different translations about Jesus in the Qur'an? Goal post shifted because of your abnormality!

AntiChristian:
Don't be foolish and dumb like him. Below are 7 different translations about Jesus in the Qur'an.

Sorry I can't help you further, I can only advice you to look for psychiatric hospital closer to your domain for brain check up and brain sanity test as your brain is not stable

Are you sure you're NORMAL while typing this, 7 different translations about Jesus in the Quran, which of your Quran talks about 7 different translations about Jesus and you're not foolish and dumb right?

AntiChristian:
Don't be foolish and dumb like him. Below are 7 different translations about Jesus in the Qur'an.

InvertedHammer:
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Enlighten us on how Jesus was born on December 25th. Don't just vomit what was fed you.

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I've done that even before now, scroll up read where I sent short note to people that asked for enlightenment

Princeton92:
Please do I'm still learning here

Read my previous posts

lansile:
How? The only thing that separate people in different places is their time zones. Across the world, there is no more than 24 hours time zone. It's not as if Nigeria did Xmas today and Ethiopia is doing theirs few hours later. There is nothing you can explain here. It's just that different christians denominations have different dates entirely from others over the actual birthday of Jesus making us wonder if they serve the same God.

You are wrong, Ethiopia is still in 2015, Some Arab nations using Islamic calendar are in 1444, etc

frowland:
Something cannot be same day and different calender: It does not make sense.
If I was born during the spring, and a random calender somewhere push my date to August, how does that make sense?
No one really knows the exact day he was born. 25th for example was just accepted by some sect to commemorate the birth of Jesus.

Ethiopians as at today are still in 2015, some Arabic nations using Islamic calendar are in 1444, and many more like that. If you're born in August according to Gregorian calendar, other calendars will definitely have different date, time and month from Gregorian that's what I want you to understand

On the birth of Jesus and why it is celebrated 25 December, this is the simple calculation using events in the Bible

RightChannel:
The Bible offers few clues on the birth of Jesus Christ. Celebrations of Jesus’ Nativity are not mentioned in the Gospels or Acts; the date is not given, not even the time of year. The Biblical reference to shepherds tending their flocks at night when they hear the news of Jesus’ birth ( Luke 2 : 8 ) might suggest the spring lambing season; in the cold month of December, on the other hand, sheep might well have been pen.


This stands in sharp contrast to the very early traditions surrounding Jesus’ last days. Each of the Four Gospels provides detailed information about the time of Jesus’ death. According to John, Jesus is crucified just as the Passover lambs are being sacrificed. This would have occurred on the 14th of the Hebrew month of Nisan, just before the Jewish holiday began at sundown (considered the beginning of the 15th day because in the Hebrew calendar, days begin at sundown). In Matthew, Mark and Luke, however, the Last Supper is held after sundown, on the beginning of the 15th. Jesus is crucified the next morning—still, the 15th.

There is another way to account for the origins of Christmas on December 25: Strange as it may seem, the key to dating Jesus’ birth may lie in the dating of Jesus’ death at Passover.

Around 200 C.E. Tertullian of Carthage reported the calculation that the 14th of Nisan (the day of the crucifixion according to the Gospel of John) in the year Jesus died was equivalent to March 25 in the Roman (solar) calendar.9 March 25 is, of course, nine months before December 25; it was later recognized as the Feast of the Annunciation—the commemoration of Jesus’ conception. Thus, Jesus was believed to have been conceived and crucified on the same day of the year. Exactly nine months later, Jesus was born, on December 25.


This is how New year arose;

Luke 2:21

And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.

Nicepoker:
See eh. It wasn't written down anywhere that he was born on that day. He never said his birthday was on dec 25. Christians just decided to infuse that aspect into their doctrine which to me is not proper.

Read this short note you'll understand better

RightChannel:
The Bible offers few clues on the birth of Jesus Christ. Celebrations of Jesus’ Nativity are not mentioned in the Gospels or Acts; the date is not given, not even the time of year. The Biblical reference to shepherds tending their flocks at night when they hear the news of Jesus’ birth ( Luke 2 : 8 ) might suggest the spring lambing season; in the cold month of December, on the other hand, sheep might well have been pen.


This stands in sharp contrast to the very early traditions surrounding Jesus’ last days. Each of the Four Gospels provides detailed information about the time of Jesus’ death. According to John, Jesus is crucified just as the Passover lambs are being sacrificed. This would have occurred on the 14th of the Hebrew month of Nisan, just before the Jewish holiday began at sundown (considered the beginning of the 15th day because in the Hebrew calendar, days begin at sundown). In Matthew, Mark and Luke, however, the Last Supper is held after sundown, on the beginning of the 15th. Jesus is crucified the next morning—still, the 15th.

There is another way to account for the origins of Christmas on December 25: Strange as it may seem, the key to dating Jesus’ birth may lie in the dating of Jesus’ death at Passover.

Around 200 C.E. Tertullian of Carthage reported the calculation that the 14th of Nisan (the day of the crucifixion according to the Gospel of John) in the year Jesus died was equivalent to March 25 in the Roman (solar) calendar.9 March 25 is, of course, nine months before December 25; it was later recognized as the Feast of the Annunciation—the commemoration of Jesus’ conception. Thus, Jesus was believed to have been conceived and crucified on the same day of the year. Exactly nine months later, Jesus was born, on December 25.


This is how New year arose;

Luke 2:21

And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.

NOETHNICITY:
I need you to enlighten me sir, I’m lost here sir

The Bible offers few clues on the birth of Jesus Christ. Celebrations of Jesus’ Nativity are not mentioned in the Gospels or Acts; the date is not given, not even the time of year. The Biblical reference to shepherds tending their flocks at night when they hear the news of Jesus’ birth ( Luke 2 : 8 ) might suggest the spring lambing season; in the cold month of December, on the other hand, sheep might well have been pen.


This stands in sharp contrast to the very early traditions surrounding Jesus’ last days. Each of the Four Gospels provides detailed information about the time of Jesus’ death. According to John, Jesus is crucified just as the Passover lambs are being sacrificed. This would have occurred on the 14th of the Hebrew month of Nisan, just before the Jewish holiday began at sundown (considered the beginning of the 15th day because in the Hebrew calendar, days begin at sundown). In Matthew, Mark and Luke, however, the Last Supper is held after sundown, on the beginning of the 15th. Jesus is crucified the next morning—still, the 15th.

There is another way to account for the origins of Christmas on December 25: Strange as it may seem, the key to dating Jesus’ birth may lie in the dating of Jesus’ death at Passover.

Around 200 C.E. Tertullian of Carthage reported the calculation that the 14th of Nisan (the day of the crucifixion according to the Gospel of John) in the year Jesus died was equivalent to March 25 in the Roman (solar) calendar.9 March 25 is, of course, nine months before December 25; it was later recognized as the Feast of the Annunciation—the commemoration of Jesus’ conception. Thus, Jesus was believed to have been conceived and crucified on the same day of the year. Exactly nine months later, Jesus was born, on December 25.


This is how New year arose;

Luke 2:21

And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.