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Emusan:
I saw this very late.

Welcome on board bro. We haven't really gone far and so you can drop your input(s), I will be addressing them when I'm done with my posts.

Anas09:
Pls dont dignify this person with a response.
Kings do not engage in duscussions with the commoners.

Yes indeed! You are only good at cursing and insulting people and so this thread is way over your head, i only called you to read, maybe you can think for yourself then, i don't expect any reasonable contribution from you. As usual, oya start your insult and curse.

Rilwayne001:
But what lies at the foundation of these stories? What, if anything, can we say historically about the resurrection event?

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The Resurrection: What We Cannot Know

In addition to the resurrection itself—the act of God by which he raised Jesus from the dead—a number of other traditions are subject to historical doubt. The two I mention here will come as a surprise to many readers. In my judgment, we cannot know that Jesus received a decent burial and that his tomb was later discovered to be empty.

These two traditions obviously stand hand-in-hand, in that the second makes no sense unless the first is historically true. No one could have discovered that Jesus was no longer in his tomb if he had never been buried in a tomb in the first place (although the reverse does not necessarily follow: in theory Jesus could have been decendy buried, and the tomb was never discovered empty). And so in many respects the second claim depends on the first. Therefore, I devote more discussion to it, explaining why we cannot know on historical grounds whether Joseph of Arimathea buried Jesus, as the Gospels claim he did.

Did Jesus Receive a Decent Burial ?

According to our earliest account, the Gospel of Mark, Jesus was buried by a previous unnamed and unknown figure, Joseph of Arimathea, “a respected member of the council” (Mark 15:43)—that is, a Jewish aristocrat who belonged to the Sanhedrin, which was the ruling body made up of “chief priests, elders, and scribes” (14:53). According to Mark 15:43, Joseph summoned up his courage and asked Pilate for Jesus’s body. Pilate granted Joseph his wish, and Joseph took the body from the cross, wrapped it in a linen shroud, “laid it in a tomb that had been hewn out of the rock,” and then rolled a stone in front of it (15 44:47). Mary
Magdalene and another woman named Mary saw where this happened (15:48).

Let me stress that all of this—or something very much like it—needs to happen within Mark’s narrative in order for what happens next to make sense, namely, that on the day after the Sabbath, Mary Magdalene and two other women go to the tomb and find it empty. If there were no tomb for Jesus, or if no one knew where the tomb was, the bodily resurrection could not be proclaimed. You have to have a known tomb.

But was there one? Did Joseph of Arimathea really bury Jesus?

Johnnyessence:
infacts bukola saraki has been a political prostitute since time immemorial. He betrayed his fellow brothers in politics. He's still very strong in it. Saraki has d ambition to be the president of Nigeria.that's why he's still strong in politics. He will surely be defeated.

Defeated by who? The dullard'?

Johnnyessence:
infact it will be very interesting. Saraki always proof smart in politics. His smartness will lead to total downfall of his political ambition in kwara politics. The only people that can remove him from politics is kwarans.

Kwarans can't remove him because they are too gullible to see him for the evil that he is. Despite all him governing them for 8years without anything good development in the state to show for it, they still went ahead to vote his boy into power, thereby indirectly making him the governor for the third time. Four years after nothing again to show for it. No good roads no basic infrastructure that may attract investors and so it, yet again, they voted indirectly again for him for the fourth time.

The key he's been using is, giving them money during the election period and they will easily vote for him, which shows the level of poverty in the state.

Even if they are going to bring him down now, i think it's too late because being the Senate president of this country, the power he's wielding is almost in the same league with that of the dullard in Aso Rock. Saraki is smart and he's got something under his slieve, by the time he unleash it, everyone will be amazed. I'm certain his eye is still on being the president and this is the right time to actualize his ambition with his current power. He himself knows that Buhari can't outsmart him because he doesn't know as much as him in politics.

baby124:
Lol, is this a joke? You take a criminal away from manipulating records to access to cash. Lmao. This makes me suspect that Buhari had a hand in the budget padding!

Of course! Any reason why you think nothing was done to Dogara after the whole saga?

Saraki will start the campaign through which the dullard will be kicked out. Apparently he's smarter than Mr. Bubu.

2017 is going to be interesting, no doubt.

Arsenal are totally useless today. What a stupid team

Well done guys. 1 more goal and we are done.

It's only in Nigeria where you get you pay doing trash. This guy is too wack

tintingz:
Like seriously?

E shock you to see that?

Nothing you no go see on nairaland. Lol

Cc: alBhAdadi, you talked about the witness of Paul in your post up there, i hope you followed all through this analysis of his witness. I'm still coming back to your post in full.

Empiree:
So we in the store with my little niece yesterday and he picked up the crackers and cheese and didn't put them on the counter so I paid for it and we leaving. So he's like uncle did you pay for my crackers?. I'm like no you stole them you going to jail this little boy goes " OH NA WE OUT WE OUT and he ran LMFAOOOOOO IM REALLY "CRYING" SO HARD . Like what ? where does he learn this stuff son

rilwayne001

Too much Americans movies. Lol! Maybe he thought you were going to call 911 straight up.

sod09:
draxler always available

Then wenger should make a move to sign him once and for all, maybe the attitude that Ozil is showing will drop by then. Seriously it doesn't make sense to be depending on a particular player instead of a whole team. No player is bigger than the club.

as for sanchez, he said hes happy but arsenal should make d first move concerning his contract

Honestly i support his move. He deserved better than he's getting and its not too much for arsenal to break the bank for him. He's contributing a lot to the team. I'm sure without his great performance, we wouldn't have been where we are on that table.

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na ozil still day Dream of madrid

Then bleep him.. After all he's always playing like a cockroach. I'm sure he can't fit into the Madrid system of play because there's no space for slow lazy player like him. Although a fine player with fine passes, but he's only popular in the team because he's style of play is somehow compatible with the way the team operates, even though its more of the reason why we are still lagging behind in the champions league. If they can continue with the pace at which they've been playing so far before our last game - especially the way they played against West-ham, with the hunger for more goals even after making the 3 needed points - then the team will be in the league of Madrid, Barca and other big clubs in Europe.

sod09:
we shd renew sanchez nd sell ozil jo
d guy and attitude in some games can be annoying
sanchez was really angry at everton
we can always get ozil replacement in draxler bur sanchez is irreplaceable

Uhm!! But we need to find a replacement first before selling him. Sanchez as well is replaceable but finding the right person is hard. Same as Ozil.

Spy360:
Dude is asking for 250k, they should pay him abeg.

Can arsenal really pay a 29year old player that much? I doubt they will. Although they can, but i doubt they will. And it will be better if they do, cus Sanchez is worth more than that.

after some useless folks like Pogba and Rooney earn more for playing bullsh.

Indeed!!

Head-to-head

Arsenal are unbeaten in their last six games with Manchester City in all competitions (W3, D3).

City's last victory in this fixture was 6-3 at home in December 2013.

The last six Premier League meetings have produced 24 goals - an average of four per game.

https://www.amazon.com/How-Jesus-Became-God-Exaltation/dp/0061778184

Rilwayne001:
. Below, I will show why there are reasons to doubt that the tradition is historically accurate.

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One other frequently noted feature of this creed—and its expansion by Paul in w. 5-8—is that Paul seems to be giving an exhaustive account of the people to whom Jesus appeared after being raised. The reason for thinking this is that after listing all the others who saw Jesus, Paul indicates that he was the “last of all.” This is frequently understood, rightly I think, to mean that he is giving the fullest list he can. But then the list is striking indeed, in no small measure because Paul doesn’t mention any women. In the Gospels it is women who discover the empty tomb, and in two of the Gospels—Matthew and John—it is women who first see Jesus alive afterward. But Paul never says anything about anyone discovering an empty tomb, and he doesn’t mention any resurrection appearances to women —either here or in any other passage of his writings.

0n the first point, for many years scholars have considered it highly significant that Paul, our earliest “witness” to the resurrection, says nothing about the discovery of an empty tomb. Our earliest account of Jesus’s resurrection (1 Cor. 15 3-5) discusses the appearances without mentioning an empty tomb, while our earliest Gospel, Mark, narrates the discovery of the empty tomb without discussing any of the appearances (Mark 1621-. This has led some scholars, such as New Testament expert Daniel Smith, to suggest that these two sets of tradition— the empty tomb and the appearances of Jesus after his death—probably originated independendy of one another and were put together as a single tradition only later—for example, in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke . If this is the case, then the stories of Jesus’s resurrection were indeed being expanded, embellished, modified, and possibly even invented in the long process of their being told and retold over the years.

But what lies at the foundation of these stories? What, if anything, can we say historically about the resurrection event?

To be continued..

https://www.amazon.com/How-Jesus-Became-God-Exaltation/dp/0061778184

Rilwayne001:
What about the witness of Paul?

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The Writings of the Apostle Paul

Paul speaks of the resurrection of Jesus constantly throughout the seven letters that scholars agree he actually wrote. No passage states Paul’s views more clearly or forcefully than 1 Corinthians 15, the so—called resurrection chapter. In this chapter Paul is not intent on “proving” that Jesus was raised from the dead, as it is sometimes misread. Instead, he is assuming, with his readers, that Jesus really was raised; and he is using that assumption to make his bigger point, which is this: since Jesus was raised bodily from the dead, it is clear that his followers—despite what Paul’s Christian opponents are saying—have not yet experienced the future resurrection.

The resurrection for Paul is not a spiritual matter unrelated to the body, as it was for some of his opponents. It is precisely the body that will be raised immortal on the last day, when Jesus returns in triumph from heaven. The Christians in Corinth therefore are not experiencing, in the here and now, the glories of the resurrected life. That is yet to come, when their bodies will be raised.


Paul begins his discussion of the resurrection of Jesus, and the future resurrection of believers, by citing a standard Christian confession, or creed (i.e., a statement of faith), that was already known to his readers (as he himself indicates):

[3 For I handed over to you among the most important things what I also had received, that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures, 4 and that he was buried; and that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures; and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the Twelve; 6 then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, many of whom survive until now, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles; 8 and last of all he appeared even to me, as to one untimely born. (1 Cor. 15 3-8 )

Paul’s letters are the first Christian writings that we have from antiquity; he was writing, for the most part, in the 505 of the Common Era, so some ten or fifteen years before our earliest surviving Gospel, Mark. It is hard to know exactly when 1 Corinthians was written; if we place it in the middle of Paul’s letter-writing period, we could put it around 55 ce or so—some twenty-five years after Jesus’s death.

What is striking is that Paul indicates that this statement of faith is something he already had taught the Christians in Corinth, presumably when he converted them. And so it must go back to the founding of the community, possibly four or five years earlier. Moreover—and this is the important part— Paul indicates that he did not devise this statement himself but that he “received” it from others. Paul uses this kind of language elsewhere in 1 Corinthians (see 11:22-25), and it is believed far and wide among New Testament specialists that Paul is indicating that this is a tradition already widespread in the Christian church, handed over to him by Christian teachers, possibly even the earlier apostles themselves. In other words, this is what New Testament scholars call a pre- Pauline tradition —one that was in circulation before Paul wrote it and even before he gave it to the Corinthians when he first persuaded them to become followers of Jesus.

There is evidence in the passage itself that it, or part of it, is pre—Pauline, and it is possible to determine just which parts were the original formulation. This is what we find here in this passage. For example, the phrase “in accordance with the scriptures” is found nowhere else in Paul’s writings; nor is the verb “he appeared”; nor is any reference to “the Twelve.”

This passage almost certainly contains a pre-Pauline confession, or creed, of some kind. But is the entire thing, all of v.3-8, part of that creed? The second half of v.6 (“many of whom survive . . .”) and all of v. 8 (“last of all he appeared even to me are Paul’s comments on the tradition, so they could not have originally been part of the creed. There are very good reasons, in fact, for thinking that the original form of the creed was simply w. 3-5, to which Paul has added some comments of his own based on what he knew. One reason for restricting the original pre-Pauline creed to just these three verses is that doing so produces a very tightly formulated creedal statement that is brilliantly structured. It contains two major sections of four statements each that closely parallel one another (in other words, the first statement of section one corresponds to the first statement of section two, and so on). In its original form, then, the creed would have read like this:

Mujaheeeden:
Omenka

Lol

Happy birthday sir... More life in good health and wealth. Still won't stop us from voting your ass out in 2019.

The thing still dey shack her.. Smh

dainformant:
Nigerian soldiers in collaboration with Civilian Joint Task Force on Thursday thwarted an attempt by a female victim of Boko Haram to launch a suicide bomb attack at Rann, in Kala Balge Local Government Area of Borno State.. According to reports, Boko Haram insurgents strapped the young girl with a suicide vest and let her loose into a crowded neighbourhood in downtown Rann which is about 170 kilometres northeast of Maiduguri, the Borno State capital.

But a member of the Civilian Joint Task Force working with the Nigerian soldiers “dived and held” her and prevented her from detonating the explosives, our sources said.

The vest was removed from her. She told troops that she was kidnapped by insurgents on her way to Gamboru town when she was abducted by Boko Haram.

Source; http://www.nationalhelm.net/2016/12/see-photos-of-female-suicide-bomber-who.html

Education is the key. https://www.nairaland.com/3522095/how-fight-boko-haram-open

Atiku2019:
MMM created accounts that just receive without providing help. Thats where their founders and promoters made several Millions of Naira

You got it right there.. Thumbs up.

That's good!

I see Nuhu Ribadu, another good man

onnenka:
Why didn't she marry one of the Yoruba muslim cocksuckers of her father?

IPOD tout, please shut up!!

Oh my God!!!! I swear i will work very hard to be a billionaire. I must marry that other buhari's daughter.

SINZ:
This Ahmad guy won't have mercy on Zahra tonight

solid3:
30k salary abi how much?

Pls don't castigate me o. I'm just imagining what 30k will do for an adult in this Buhari economy.

Shut up!! Half bread is better than none.

APCHaram:
Afonja slaves will like this

Hahahahaha

Demmzy15:
I can't, I'll go only when she's getting married to you!

You know that can only happen in my dreams