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alBHAGDADI:The issue of music is still being debated among Muslim scholars. So, that lexicokabir's school of thought deem it as haraam doesn't mean all Muslim do. As for me, i don't really see anything bad in good music passing good message to people or praising the name of God. The bad ones are the ones that i deem has haraam. So you'd rather call him to answer this and not me because i don't subscribe to his views on this. Please let me enjoy this 'fura' and 'nunu' that I'm drinking. ![]() |
APCHaram:Dumb! |
I want to join the fight against boko-are-ram, please how can i join? |
Firefire:What's funny? Seriously what they need is education. The level of illiteracy in those area is quite alarming. |
yomi007k:Lol werey!!! But seriously, i don't see anything bad in the babe. Skales is just another dumb nigga. He should be a danfo driver instead of musician. He's been poor at music. Smh ![]() |
This is a good person: a good fulani. A good northerner. If she's been the type that go about creating division where peaceful co-existence is in order or the type that supports and and provide arms and ammunitions for some fulani terrorist to destroy innocent people in the society like "hell-rufai", she wouldn't have been where she is today. I wish her success in all her endeavors and i pray she use her good office to help in curbing the menace of boko-haram and some fulani herdsman being sponsored by hell-rufai. |
As a military campaign against Boko Haram continues in northern Cameroon, leaders of the country’s biggest mosques in the south are deploying another weapon to ensure that the Islamist insurgency doesn’t spread: education for girls.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/16/cameroon-mosques-offer-free-education-girls-fight-radicalisation-boko-haram |
Skales is just as dumb, that's why he's staying below C-level in the entertainment industry. yomi007k: like your gf fine pass her! |
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Demmzy15:She already left me jor Are you also going to the wedding? |
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alBHAGDADI:Like i said in my first post, i will entertain you when I'm done. Meanwhile, you have a lot to address, so stay put. |
https://www.amazon.com/How-Jesus-Became-God-Exaltation/dp/0061778184 Rilwayne001:^^^ There is clearly a discrepancy here. In one Gospel the disciples immediately go to Galilee, and in the other they never go there. As New Testament scholar Raymond Brown—himself a Roman Catholic priest— has emphasized: “Thus we must reject the thesis that the Gospels can he harmonized through a rearrangement whereby Jesus appears several times to the Twelve, first in Jerusalem, then in Galilee. . . .The different Gospel accounts are narrativing, so far as substance is concerned, the same basic appearance to the Twelve, whether they locate it in Jerusalem or in Galilee.” Later we will explore further how this discrepancy matters for reconstructing the actual course of events. For now it is enough to note that the earliest Gospels say that when Jesus was arrested, his disciples fled the scene (Mark 14; Matt. 24:46). And the earliest accounts also suggest that it was in Galilee that they had visions of Jesus alive after the crucifixion (intimated in Mark 14:28; stated in Matthew 24). The most plausible explanation is that when the disciples fled the scene for fear of arrest, they left Jerusalem and went home, to Galilee. And it was there that they—or at least one or more of them—claimed to see Jesus alive again. Some people have argued that if Jesus really was raised from the dead, it would have been such a spectacular event that of course in their excitement the eyewitnesses would have gotten a few details muddled. But my points in the discussion so far are rather simple. First, we are not dealing with eyewitnesses. We are dealing with authors living decades later in different lands speaking different languages and basing their tales on stories that had been in oral circulation during all the intervening years. Second, these accounts do not simply have minor discrepancies in a couple of details; they are clearly at odds with one another on point after point. They are not the kinds of sources that historians would hope for in determining what actually happened in the past. What about the witness of Paul? To be continued.. |
Empiree:Exactly what I'm doing. No point rushing. ![]() |
^^ There are other discrepancies, but this is enough to get the point across. I should stress that some of these differences can scarcely be reconciled unless you do a lot of interpretive gymnastics when reading the texts. For example, what does one do with the fact that the women apparently meet different people at the tomb? In Mark, they meet one man; in Luke, two men; and in Matthew, one angel. The way this discrepancy is sometimes reconciled, by readers who can’t accept that there could be a genuine discrepancy in the text, is by saying that the women actually met two angels at the tomb. Matthew mentions only one of them but never denies there was a second one; moreover, the angels were in human guise, so Luke claims they were two men; Mark also mistakes the angels as men but mentions only one, not two, without denying there were two. And so the problem is easily solved! But it is solved in a very curious way indeed, for this solution is saying, in effect, that what really happened is what is not narrated by any of these Gospels: for none of them mentions two angels! This way of interpreting the texts does so by imagining a new text that is unlike any of the others, so as to reconcile the four to one another. Anyone is certainly free to construct their own Gospel if they want to, but that’s probably not the best way to interpret the Gospels that we already have. Or take a second example—one that is even more glaring. Matthew is explicit when he says that the disciples are told to go to Galilee since that is where they will meet jesus (28:7). They do so (28:16), and that is where ]esus meets them and gives them his final commands (28:17-20). This is both clear-cut and completely at odds with what happens in Luke. There, the disciples are not told to go to Galilee. The women are informed at the empty tomb, by the two men, that when jesus had earlier been in Galilee, he had announced that he would be raised. Since the disciples are not told to go to Galilee, they do not do so. They stay in Jerusalem, in the land of judea. And it is there that Jesus meets them “that very day” (24:13). Jesus speaks with them and emphatically instructs them not to leave the city until they receive the power of the Spirit, which happens more than forty days later, according to Acts 1-2 (that is, they are not to go to Galilee; 24:49). He leads them right outside Jerusalem, to nearby Bethany, and gives them his last instructions and departs from them (24:50-51). And we learn they did as he commanded: they stayed in the city, worshiping in the temple (24:53). In the book of Acts, written by the same author as the book of Luke, we find out that they stayed in Jerusalem for more than a month, until the day of Pentecost (Acts 1-2). |
Why Historians Have Difficulty Discussing the Resurrection I have stressed that historians, in order to investigate the past, are necessarily restricted to doing so on the basis of surviving sources. There are sources that describe the events surrounding jesus’s resurrection, and the first step to take in exploring the rise of the Christians’ early belief is to examine these sources. The most important ones are the Gospels of the New Testament, which are our earliest narratives of the discovery of Jesus’s empty tomb and of his appearances, after his crucifixion, to his disciples as the living Lord of life. Also critical to our exploration are the writings of Paul, who affirms with real fervor his belief that Jesus was actually, physically, raised from the dead. The Resurrection Narratives of the Gospels We have already seen why the Gospels are so problematic for historians who want to know what really happened. This is especially true for the Gospel accounts of Jesus’s resurrection. Are these the sorts of sources that historians would look for when examining a past event? Even apart from the fact that they were written forty to sixty-five years after the facts, by people who were not there to see these things happen, who were living in different parts of the world, at different times, and speaking different languages—apart from all this, they are filled with discrepancies, some of which cannot be reconciled. In fact, the Gospels disagree on nearly every detail in their resurrection narratives. These narratives are found in Matthew 28, Mark 16, Luke 24, and John 20-21. Read through the accounts and ask yourself some basic questions: Who was the first person to go to the tomb? Was it Mary Magdalene by herself (John)? or Mary along with another Mary (Matthew)? or Mary along with another Mary and Salome (Mark)? or Mary, Mary, Joanna, and a number of other women (Luke)? Was the stone already rolled away when they arrived at the tomb (Mark, Luke, and John), or explicidy not (Matthew)? Whom did they see there? An angel (Matthew), a man (Mark), or two men (Luke)? Did they immediately go and tell some of the disciples what they had seen (John), or not (Matthew, Mark, and Luke)? What did the person or people at the tomb tell the women to do? To tell the disciples that Jesus would meet them in Galilee (Matthew and Mark)? Or to remember what Jesus had told them earlier when he had been in Galilee (Luke)? Did the women then go tell the disciples what they were told to tell them (Matthew and Luke), or not (Mark)? Did the disciples see Jesus (Matthew, Luke, and John), or not (Mark)? 1 Where did they see him?—only in Galilee (Matthew), or only in Jerusalem (Luke)? https://www.amazon.com/How-Jesus-Became-God-Exaltation/dp/0061778184 |
Seun:Alright sir ![]() |
Seun:Anything bad the way i wanted to do it, will i be banned? After all i will be referencing the book at the end. |
Seun:There's no link. All copied contents will be from a book, with my own brief interpolations. Is that okay? |
Seun:References will be added ![]() |
INTRODUCTION It is not the peripatetic "ministry" of Jesus, with all its healings, wise teachings and astounding miracles, that is the bedrock of the Christian religion. Rather, it is the extraordinary melodrama of his death and resurrection, sometimes expressed as the "promise of the cross" or in the pithy aphorism, "No Resurrection, No Christianity." :What is it that made Jesus so special? In fact, as we will see, it was not his message. That did not succeed much at all. Instead, it helped get him crucified—surely not a mark of spectacular success. No, what made Jesus different from all the others teaching a similar message was the claim that he had been raised from the dead. Belief in Jesus’s resurrection changed absolutely everything. Such a thing was not said of any of the other apocalyptic preachers of Jesus’s day, and the fact that it was said about Jesus made him unique. Without the belief in the resurrection, Jesus would have been a mere footnote in the annals of Jewish history. With the belief in the resurrection, we have the beginnings of the movement to promote Jesus to a superhuman plane. Belief in the resurrection is what eventually led his followers to claim that Jesus was God. You will notice that I have worded the preceding sentences very carefully. I have not said that the resurrection is what made Jesus God. I have said that it was the belief in the resurrection that led some of his followers to claim he was God. This is because, historians can't show— HISTORICALLY — that Jesus was in fact raised from the dead. To be clear, I am not saying the opposite either—that historians can use the historical disciplines in order to demonstrate that Jesus was not raised from the dead. I argue that when it comes to miracles such as the resurrection, historical sciences simply are of no help in establishing exactly what happened. Religious faith and historical knowledge are two different ways of “knowing.” From the book of Job in the Hebrew Bible): “I know that my Redeemer liveth.” But we “knew” this not because of historical investigation, but because of our faith. Whether Jesus is still alive today, because of his resurrection, or indeed whether any such great miracles have happened in the past, cannot be “known” by means of historical study, but only on the basis of faith. This is not because historians are required to adopt “unbelieving presuppositions” or “secular assumptions hostile to religion.” In this thread we will discuss both the facts we can know and the claims we cannot know, historically. We begin with what we are not able to say, either at all or with relative certainty, about the early Christian belief in the resurrection: |
As i promised to come up with the part 2 of my honest survey for 4evergod, now here we are. Meanwhile, this thread won't serve as an honest survey for 4evergod alone, rather to him and DoctorAlien and every other Christians out there. I hereby call on my friend Kingebukasblog to kindly follow this thread. Other Christians: parisbookaddict, oladeegbu, annunaki2, anas09, malvisguy212, plappvillemoi, winner01, albhagdadi, damogul, analice107, Emusan, true2god, truthmans2012 and others should as well follow up to see this honest survey I have for them all. This is rather a long post and I will be updating the thread as i cannot drop the whole post all at once. Counter arguments will be entertained when I'm done with the posts. Thanks ![]() |
We hope this is not another lie. And even if it's not, who knows where that money will end up? |
idupaul: Tinubu and Bisi Akande made that charm for him, and the charm was really effective. You know, we "Afonja" in our brown roof republic have a lot of charms that are dangerous. The name of the charm that Tinubu made for Buhari is called "ASASI" known as SPELL in English language. It is because Tinubu and Buhari have kerfuffles that Tinubu angrily destroyed the charm. Now our eyes is clear and we can't even seem to know why we hated Jonathan. May God forgive our sorry asses ![]() |
randomperson:Wtf You guys are indeed foolish. The moment you hear the word God what comes to your mind is the biblical god? Is the biblical God the only God being worshipped out there![]() |
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tintingz:Well cool! But i think they should start searching for the cure this season. The story is not coming to an end until a cure is found. |
tintingz:Definitely! What I'm picturing on this whole season is that, they will attack the saviors and end up destroying their location. Negan won't die but will be chased far away from the vicinity. Or what do you think, do you think Negan will be killed this season? |
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chinnyonwu:Ha weldone! From fry pan to fire. So 30% is not enough for you again, you now move to 100%? You must be an IPOB citizen, because this your greed for money is out of this world.. Lool! |
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