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FriendChoice:
They make the claim to Mama Boko Haram (A recently released on bail journalist)

Who's she and how did she gain access to such info? Don't you think it sound more like a conspiracy? The fact that they didn't come out to say such a thing in public makes this baseless.

The reason is simple they prolonged the war on boko Haram to remain in power.

Lol, how?

They have the money they looted it. They sponsored state of emergency in North. When it expire prior to the election they sponsored another extension by 6 month so that election will not hold, because they will claim Nigeria is in the state of war. When Northern legislature threw the state of emergency extension. They decided to win back hearts of some northerner by extending the 2015 election by 6 weeks to deal with Boko Haram, to which a huge success is recorded, that for the past 5 years of insurgency its the best success then. Hypocrisy is what has not been achieved in five years is now achievable in 6 weeks.

Okay

Again Boko Haram is destabilizing your government but u fold your arms when the money is being looted. When he was asked by CNN he said

[b] " Information is that I was not in charge "

We all know he was ineffectual. His minister were the ones that makes most of the decision and not him. This doesn't mean that his aim was to empower book haram.

Us did not sell any weapon to Nigeria. The link above.
Are Us and Russia the only place on earth we can get weapons?
Which best position? No. Did they sale it? No.
Us is the only best country on the face of the earth to purchase weapons from at that time? Like seriously.

I said it was a matter on urgency and they are in the best position to provide it URGENTLY owing to the ties between us.

You trust them and you don't trust Sultan.

I never said i don't trust sultan. Don't put words in my mouth bro.

If its sultan you will Bash him because he has history of supporting terrorism? Because North is born with terror?

Why would i bash him? Supporting the government is a must for every citizen.

You will not applaud him for helping Nigeria just as u claim when it comes to CAN.

Kindly point out where i said i will not applaud him for supporting and helping the government. You are quite getting me wrong bro.

South = Good Intention (I trust them they will not do bad despite the wrong.North = Bad intention (This people are buying weapons for their Boko boys to continue killing)

All these are your thoughts and not reality.

That not my original post on it. I ask how did he support terror? None. At least he has said these people are not Muslim and Islam does not teach terror.

Saying book harams are not Muslims is not enough in curbing the whole issue, rather enlightening the ignorant ones on the tenets of Islam and what it stands for. Providing basic education for the young ones so that they won't grow up jobless to the point where some people will have the opportunity to brainwash and use them for their evil aim.

How did CAN help by supplying arms ?

No. CAN weren't even the owner of the jet rather their president who is the right man of jonathan back then.

Why is it hidden, let them come out and explain what happen. Some Christian disown him 4 that, but a Muslim like u is here applauding.

Loooooool all i sha know is that, his intention is not to empower boko haram rather to fight them. If you have a contrary view of it, kindly state it now.

If your hands are clean, why not explain to the world. When motion was raised about the details of that arms, the motion was cancelled. The response is- It wount be discussed.
Go and find out the punishment for Money laundering.

My point is you're all southerners.

Yes.

You're already suppressing the truths. Why? You're defending purchase of arms that Ayo want 2help fight terror. But u said if its sultan u will do the opposite. why? he is not a southerner. And thats how most of southerners behave except few. They can stab there fellow Muslim brother of a different group, region or ethnicity just to support lies for one of their own tribe or region.

You've gotten me all wrong. I didn't say the bolded abegg!

I have live with Yoruba Muslim and Non Muslims different people for years. Also Igbo, I know this attitude (Not all of them but most of them.)

All these proves nothing bro.

Not now. I have to get time for that.

This is rather the bone of contention. I still found it funny that you have time to argue about what had happend in the past but can't have time to read the OP? Could it be because you are afraid of seeing El-rufai for the evil that he is

Point out where I discard the Truth?

Evading the OP and covering it with an argument that have no correlation with it is an act of discarding the truth.

Go back to my previous post. I have to verify first that was my response.

Okay, I'm still waiting.

No sir. I did not say they are Christians. Some I said.

Okay.

Provide evidence he paid ransom or exchange them with prisoners. (A genuine one).
So you mean it's only Jonathan that arrest Boko Haram members and Buhari did not? Alright list the ones Jonathan arrested and Buhari released them.
https://www.nairaland.com/968413/list-suspected-christian-boko-haram
2- 8 COCIN members arrested with explosive
devises at Miya Barkatai branch of the church.
3- Lydia Joseph arrested with explosive devise in
Bauchi
4- Emmanuel King arrested while disguised as a
Muslim and attempting to bomb Redeemed
Christian Church Yenogoa.
5- Madam Ruth attempted bombing ECWA Church
in Kalarin area of Gombe.
6- Mr Alex Danladi involved in COCIN HQ bombing
was lynched by worshipers. He was a church
member disguised in military uniform..

You don't expect the government to tell you that they paid ransom before the girls were released. You don't expect them to tell you that they had to release some of their fighters before those girls were released. All these are in a bid to safe face in local and international communities. What you need to ask yourself is that, did BH just wake up one day and decided to release those girls just like that? How come BH waxed stronger after the release of those girls when actually their momentum was dying down before the news of those girls been released broke out?

OZAOEKPE:
Rilwayne take time ooo

You want to get banned abi?

Seun is my paddy

The looser is trying every means to grab at straw. Your name already is in the black book of Nigeria. Theif applauding thief.

OZAOEKPE:
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hyman9ja:
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Mimzyy:
Just be financially independent, a chef in the kitchen and a porn star in bed. All these long stories kolewerk.

Smh

FriendChoice:
Continue to dream. Its a Yoruba Muslim majority state in the North with a Fulani Emir.

In the north my foot and the fulani emir part.. Lol! That one's just a figure head. The governor is the king of the state and not one Emir and i guess the governor is also a fulani loool

If you like argue from now till u die. It is a conquered Northern state and so shall it be.

The British also conquered Nigeria, i guess they are still here claiming Nigeria is part of the UK

The good thing is: Your argument will not change the fact.

Yes, my argument is the fact and nothing will change it.

FriendChoice:
If the unwanted happen, you will cry in Swahili

If they born SW well, let dem come collect tam. Trust me North is Indivisible.

How can we collect what is already on our hold? Lols. I don't think you know much about Kwara state.

FriendChoice:
They said some politician are supporting them. It might be anybody.

I asked where did they make that claim and who and who did they mention? Don't you think the fact that they mentioned no one make it liable that they really have no one supporting them in government back then? And like i said earlier on, why would any of Gej government support them owing to the fact that they were destabilising his government?

its illogical. Has US sale jets and ammunition to Nigeria today?

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/202985-u-s-seeks-sell-12-attack-aircraft-nigeria-boko-haram-fight.html

And aside that, most weapons been used today by NA were bought by GEJ administration. Don't forget Russian later sold some arms and ammunitions for us.

Has Nigeria go for illegality?

No, but we are partially on Jonathan legacy as regards arms and ammunition for the NA.

Upon all countries, is US the only 1? is Nigeria enemy to all countries except US? Are we not buying equipment from Pakistan, Russia today?

We needed it urgently back then and US are in the best position to provide it urgently.

But when it's Christian president (CAN) you're mute.

No, i am not mute. I applaud them because i feel the objective was to combat book haram and not to enforce that as you are trying to make it seem.

Tell me how does he support them? Did he use his jet to get them weapons.

I asked how did he support the government in fighting them. Being a notable figure is the country and especially being the head of the Muslim community and the country when actually the issue concerns us more, his support is very necessary. So i asked again, how did he support the fight against terrorism during GEJ era?

There are your own. You're a southerner. Am not talking of SW, SE, or SS. I did not mention religion in that regard.

Well, you are right, we are all human being and they are our own including yours too. Ethnically they are not yoruba that i am and religiously they are not Muslim that i am, but that doesn't mean i should suppress to truth because we are different in some certain way.

I have read it and that's what I told u is, Ihave not verify

Alright, verify it and let me hear your view.

FFK is a dog when you give him bones thats all. This is what Allah says

I'm not disputing FFK being a dog, but we can't always discard things we perceive to be truth.

O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful.

Indeed!!!

O ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news, ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become full of repentance for what ye have done. [Quran 49:6]

As you can see, this verse didn't tell us to discard the wicked's opinion, rather we should listen carefully and ascertain the truth thereof. So kindly read up this thread and tell us your opinion on it.

I need to verify the claim of FFK, he is a great lair. He lies even on reality.

I'm aware of this as well.

Those declared are only top members.

Yes, but i notice they are virtually northerners and 90% of all being a Muslim (even though they have deviated from the truth) and not Christians as you are trying to make it look.

Again Buhari is interested in bringing anyone sponsoring terrorism regardless of religion.

How many of those that are sponsoring it has he uncovered? And don't you think he's sponsoring them by paying them ransom and freeing some of their top leaders (caught by Jonathan) in exchange for the Chibok girls?

I don't know them and their religion. Army when establishing the pictures did not categorically state their religions

But we can always judge by their names. Or have you ever seen an Ipod citizen answering UMORU GAMBO? (just and example)

FriendChoice:
We have the army. Kwara kogi will forever be North. What God has put together.

Hahaha i laugh in Swahili. I pray Nigeria never breaks but if it eventually did, trust me SW owns Kwara

FriendChoice:
Concerning believing in what he said: am yet to verify his claims.

Its illegal business one, 2 it involves Christian. 3South Africa was not aware. 4. the jet never take up with authorized details of airport / air force.

Replied**

4. Boko Haram claim politician are supporting them.

Where and who and who did they mention? Don't forget they once wanted Buhari to involve in their peace talk with the Nigerian government, does that mean they had ties with Buhari?

5. Rather than investigating the act of supporting the terror, gej defend the arms deal.

The arms deal — as i have explained up there — is logical even though it was not done legally, however we can't bemoan the fact that the Nigerian Army were running out of arms and ammunition and the need for more is warranted. Whereas the US refused to sell to us and so we had to get it by whatever means. Saying it was meant to empower terrorist is unfounded.

Assuming it involves sultan the whole world will be on fire. You southners will and said sultan is sponsoring terror.

Lol, seriously if it had been the Sultan, i would say the same thing. If it's for the betterment of the country, then why not?

Tell me, what steps did the sultan take to help GEJ fight boko haram during his tenure?

Now it involves one of your own, u swept it under the mat.

None of them is my own as I'm neither a nigerdeltan nor am i a Christian. The truth is, we just have to be objective in whatever we are doing. How you evaded the points FFK laid down regarding El-rufai obnoxious attitude eludes me yet bringing up what doesn't have to do with the thread, when i asked about your views of the topic of the thread, you said you haven't really gone through it. How come you haven't when it is something that is going on daily in the country. Be truthful with yourself dear brother:

‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘You must be truthful, for truthfulness leads to righteousness and righteousness leads to Paradise. A man will keep speaking the truth and striving to speak the truth until he will be recorded with Allaah as a siddeeq (speaker of the truth). Beware of telling lies, for lying leads to immorality and immorality leads to Hellfire. A man will keep telling lies and striving to tell lies until he is recorded with Allaah as a liar.” (Reported by Muslim, 4721)

Read the thread and tell me your views on the points FFK raised.

When the issue was rise by Hon Kawu Sumaila a Christian cancel it. Says it wount be discussed.http://dailypost.ng/2015/07/13/most-boko-haram-members-are-christians-report/
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/168179-two-nigerians-israeli-caught-in-south-africa-for-smuggling-about-us10-million-to-buy-arms.html

How many Christians were among those declared wanted by the Nigerian Army and how many of them have Buhari being able to uncovered since he assumed office?

Sibrah:
Aregbesola style? Borrow N200bn and create 200 jobs?

Lools

FriendChoice:
Concerning believing in what he said: am yet to verify his claims.

Okay. But i will like to hear your views concerning the write up.

Its illegal business one, two it involves Christian two. South Africa was not aware. Three the jet never take up with authorized details of airport / air force.When the issue was rise by Hon Kawu Sumaila a Christian cancel it. Says it wount be discussed.
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/168179-two-nigerians-israeli-caught-in-south-africa-for-smuggling-about-us10-million-to-buy-arms.html

It was illegally done indeed but i don't see any correlation of it supporting terrorism. We all know the US refused to sell arms and ammunition for us to fight Boko haram back then, and so the desperation was so much that we had to get arm by any means. So to me, it's wasn't meant to empower terrorism rather to battle it. Come to think of it, why would he be empowering boko haram owing to the fact that they were the one destabilizing his government, infact one of the major reason why he was booted out of Aso rock?

I don't get it, what are these LOSERS trying to prove on this awesome thread of ours

FriendChoice:
If you read carefully he was listing some points: Its only in Nigeria... Its only in Nigeria.. etc

Yeah indeed! I hope you agree with all the points he raised because to me they are all poignant points, what are they to you?

Then I help him complete it. Or what I wrote is false?

Not really, but i quite don't agree with this: " in conjugation of an israeli foreigner to support terrorism." particularly the bolded, perhaps you have a cogent proof to show for it.

Jeeez!! I'm loving this

FriendChoice:
Yeah its only in Nigeria a Christian President Ayo through the then NG President illegally purchase arms with a huge some of raw money (despite the cashless policy) in conjugation of an israeli foreigner to support terrorism.

This money meant to purchase the arms where carried in Christian jet not Nigerian Airforce. South Africa have no knowledge of the so called arm purchase at the time Nigeria is battling with Insurgency.

Only for the President to shamelessly defend and swept the case under the carpet

Bro, how does this concern this thread

This is really heartbreaking

This El-rufai guy is a devil incarnate sha

First time liking FFKs' epistle. This is well written.

All these makeup ehn

Nawa ooo'!!!

Thought this made FP yesterday nah.

Anyway congrats buddy.

ephi123:
Meanwhile no one interrupts you guys on your Islam for Muslim threads, but you are here mis-yarning on a Christian thread.
Respect is mutual. People should learn to respect others' faith.

No one stops you from coming to mis-yarn in the Muslim section. You are allowed so far you wouldn't mind the shahadah to be in your profile for maybe 2days or even less. Seriously if seun is to put the same thing on this section, i will surely come in to voice my opinion.

So blame Seun and not me

jcross19:
you think am like you? Who can defend the truth. Am follower truth and I stand for it. God gave me free will to ask question anytime and question according to the book of isaiah 1 vs 18 . But you can't question the authority of koran because you are slave to it but am not.

Wow! Have you ever sit to question the authenticity of the crucifixion and resurrection claim

jcross19:
sir !!!!! Evil is evil even from the beginning , it has no different name than evil. The act of slavery is evil even from the bible . If the bible writers did not condemn it , it meant something is wrong with the bible and the bible remain imperfect. I am a christian too but I stand and I condemn the act of slavery from the bible . Slaves were created by who? Who made them? Huh so those slaves don't have choice to live on their own Wow!!!!! That's pathetic from the writers of bible. To tell you that we human were the one that made this rules and regulations in the bible and God ordained it for us. Thank God for thomson something like that, that fought the fight and liberate men from slavery I respect him more than many people in the bible. See I am pastor but am not blind one.

Lol, someone hacked your account

And what about other four guys that didn't die in the crash, were they also reading the Bible?
How about the 70+ that died, would they not have died had they been reading the Bible? Are you saying they really deserved to die in such a horrible way for not reading the Bible?
Are you guys implying that reading the Bible might prevent one from dying in an accident?

Lying to the grace of Jesus is allowed.

Yuck

Nice one

HolyHero:
omo Yoruba ni mi oo

Swagger

Peroti:
When will they jail the afons that owns free oil blocs in SS from far sw.

Later they will parade themselves as billionaires.
The fact remains that without oil,these people would have starved to death.

Truth

Bros, where is your sense

alBHAGDADI:
What?

Water ni

Are you blind to read that it was a response to your earlier post?

A religion that turned the entire Middle East into a war zone. A religion that produced the deadliest terrorist groups.

When did they start turning the middle east into a war zone?( I mean year or perhaps the century 'gangan') when did they start to produce terrorist groups? Kindly mention Atleast 5 terrorist group they produced in the 18th century.

A religion that doesn't preach forgiveness.

Hold to forgiveness ; command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant. (Quran, 7:199) "

Can you see how stupid you sound now?

A religion that doesn't preach love for others except for Muslims.

Allah forbids you not, With regard to those who Fight you not for (your) Faith Nor drive you out Of your homes, From dealing kindly and justly With them : For Allah loveth Those who are just. (Quran, 60:


What more is love of not showing kindness and dealing justly with people that tolerate you for who you are?

Boko Haram quotes the Quran to justify their crimes against humanity.

Even you quotes the Quran to justify your stupidity, does that make you are true muslims?

Individual Christians who commit offence do not support their acts with biblical verses cos there are none except the ones meant for the Nation of ISRAEL ALONE.

I won't be repeating myself on this again. Ptfff

The illiterates are the foot soldiers while the educated are the sleeper agents and spies. They both have different roles to play, all leading towards a huge agenda which is...
"Fight the unbelievers until there is no religion but the one for allah.
You are yet to be activated by one of your imams.
Cos the entire Muslims do not protest against such terror acts, but are ever ready to hit the streets of Kano state and burn churches and Christians just because a journalist painted a picture of Mohammad in faraway Denmark. When will they rally against ISIS and Boko Haram? Yes, they exist in the Bible, but were done by ungodly people. Their acts were condemned. They were only written in the Bible as stories to help warn Christians against such practicesYour Quran supports LIES. It permits a muslim to deny being a muslim if his life is at stake. This is called Al taquiya.
Quran 16:106
Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah , and for them is a great punishment;

Pftttt

The Nigeria Government is not using terror against anyone. They are using the laws of the country. That's why they have suspects tried in court with all his rights given to him until proven guilty.

To corrupt politicians and book harams and other evil people Buhari is terror to them. Olodo! that's what I'm saying. Just like Jesus was using his jihadists to terrorize unbelievers in the OT: Deuteronomy 2:25 This very day I will begin to put the terror and fear of you.... "

Don't tell me you still don't get it

But Mohammad and his Islamic terrorists who use terror to spread Islam never allow for fairness and justice in a court of law. They simply kill and rape unbelievers who refuse to be islamized.

Like Jesus in the Bible: Deuteronomy 2:25 This very day I will begin to put the terror and fear of you.... "

Or like this: Exodus 23:27 ►
"I will send my terror ahead of you and throw into confusion every nation you encounter. I will make all your enemies turn their backs and run
.

Pls, don't bother quoting me again cos, no matter what i say, you will never admit to the truth because of Al taquiya.

I'm even tired replying a featherhead.. It's a waste of time repeating myself all over again.

Emusan:
So you're looking for a partner in console mode, guy carry play card for ad, you know I'm not in that category.

Pfttt

It's evident that you've lost it here that's why you keep bringing irrelevant points.
You need a rest. Still irrelevant to the issue on ground.

So far the bolded is what you feel and it makes you happy, then good for you.

Kindly go away now or better yet, sleep on this thread.

parisbookaddict:
Wow.. lol. Its his real account mr muslim.. but thats what u internet muslims apologists do best , deny deny deny

Here is the link https://mobile.twitter.com/converted2islam?lang=en

Okay, I'm not denying it isn't him again.. What else now