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PAGAN9JA: madman. and their love for islam and voluntary conversion led to the Ridda Wars among Bedu Tribesmen yes?

Keep living in your fantasy land.




I dont know . I am not a conductor of Government census. Many are closet Pagans or Village Pagans who change their attire in the city or on weekends.

Very Low. I am telling you. We just started . PAganism accepts reverts only into your own Tribe. When you are born into your tribe, you are automatically a Pagan, albeit a non-practicing one.


Currently conversion (reversion) is high only among elites.

Though one rural movement took place among the Eggon enmasse (Ombatse).

The Yorubas are another matter. They have already started exporting, though I tell some of them to focus on Nigeria (Yorubaland).

Please what is going to happen if i never accept paganism?

PAGAN9JA: WHat do you mean by they? Not all PAgans were directly involved. some of them were just commoners and soothsayers who were not even present in the vicinity of Mecca and Medinah which was the Quraysh Centre.

DOnt Lie. and dont cry when muslims are killed and when mosques will be destroyed. because what you give, so you shall receive.

The day I see this light , Gods curse on me and may the God of Destruction strike me down with Thunder .

I give up

PAGAN9JA: Constitution that derives from Sharia'a ISLAMIC Law......*smh

So in the same way , preaching of foreign religion was banned in Quraysh Territory. Your prophet should be thankful to the Pagans that they didnt behead all the musims en masse..

There wish is to behead all muslims but Allah saved the muslims from them, alhamdulilah all those pagans see the light and comverted at last to islam

quote author=PAGAN9JA] So therefore , the reaction of the Quraysh was justified and your prophet was the real perpetrator and criminal.


As for Paganism in Nigeria, we are still young and growing. Radicalism has still not hit Pagans ,but because of you 2 foreign religions destructive actions, our tolerance is going into -100.

You have misused our patience on our soil.[/quote]but what is the population of pagans in nigeria? how high is the rate of convert to paganism?

PAGAN9JA: Question 2:

Lets say for Arguments sake that the Pagans initiated killing muslims and then both sides slaughtered each other, with the muslims massacring more of us and Jews..

Why destroy shrines and kill priests and forcefully convert Pagans who have no involvement?

Should we also use the same argument and kill all muslims and destroy all mosques because some muslims are killing our people?

Surah At-Taubah, Verse 13:
Will ye not fight a folk who broke their solemn pledges, and purposed to drive out the messenger and did attack you first? What! Fear ye them? Now Allah hath more right that ye should fear Him, if ye are believers
First you broke your pledge that you will never attack the muslims again.

they puposed to drive him out of his fathersland again.

they fighy him first.

Throughtout the entire life of the prophet, you people wag war against the muslims, always killing muslim despite muslim signing treaties with them. but thank God today all your people back then converted to islam.

I hope one day you will also see the light.

TheBigUrban2: Beating your wife is also a sign of good manners and chastity in islam Surah 4:34

No, islam never teaches us yo beat our wifes...goin by the verse.

Surah An-Nisa, Verse 34:
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded."As for those women on whose part you fear nushuz..." Before we go any further with the translation, it is important to explain the meaning of the key word nushuz . The literal meaning of the word is "rebellion". But rebellion against whom and in what sense? We should certainly not think of this in terms the rebellion of the ruled against a ruler in a sultanate or dictatorship and conclude that it consists of the wife disobeying some of the husband's commands.

This is because the same word nushuz is used in case of a husband in verse 128 of the same surah 4, where it is said: "If a woman fears nushuz on her husband's part..." So nushuz is something that can be feared by the husband on the wife's part or by the wife on her husband's part. It cannot therefore be understood in terms of the ruler-ruled relationship. To correctly understand the meaning of the word, it must be noted that both in the verse under consideration and in verse 128 the reference to nushuz is followed by a reference to the break-up of the marriage. If this context is kept in mind, then it becomes evident that nushuz means the type of behavior on the part of the husband or the wife which is so disturbing for the other that their living together becomes difficult.


To cut the story short read the details here.
www.islamicperspectives.com/quran-4-34.htm

PAGAN9JA: Answer my question. Can I go and preach Paganism in Saudi Arabia and Mekkah?

That depends on there constitution...i dnt know wether it is allowed or not but you have to obey the rules regulating the country..

btw..i have never seen a pagan preaching paganism in Nigeria....

TheBigUrban2: You bolded the wrong parts
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.
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Scourging women is in the Quran.
scourge
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a whip used as an instrument of punishment.
synonyms: whip, horsewhip, lash, strap, birch, switch, flail; More

So whats your point @bolded

PAGAN9JA: Nonsense! What have the Priests of these far off and isolated Shrines got to do with muhammads jihadis?!

Instead of driving us out you killed our Priests and Destroyed our Shrines. Are you saying this logic applies to the Shrines of Khazraj, the East Coast (Mahra,etc.,), Yemen, Iran and henceforth ?


Bullshyt. fellow. we will do the same to you muslims then as well.

You and I, we both know the truth of this Arabic prophet.

Sorry man but your people killed most early muslims and turned them out of there fathers land.

truthman2012: In the old or new testament? With sleeping with their wives. Till tomorrow.

yea, Plus takin the virgins as war captives and killing those that are not virgins including children...ordered by the bubull god..see you 2mao.

TheBigUrban2: So you are using pictkhal translation!

Please quote surah 4;34 with the pickthal translation.

Surah An-Nisa, Verse 34:
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great. (English - Pickthal)

truthman2012: Vain talk? I will post the evidences tomorrow, God willing.

Post your usual traash as far as the Quran is concerned you dont av a point

..but get ready for horror killings/murder in the bible ordered by the bible god.. see you tommorow

PAGAN9JA: Ok then why did your hypocrite prophet order the destruction of all Pagan shrines in Arabia and beyond, including the Red Kaaba of Allat, Temples of Wadd, Yaghuth ,etc.

And why did your evil prophet send assasins to kill the Priests, Priestesses and Soothsayers of these Holy Places?

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 191:
And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (English - Pickthal)

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 192:
But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
(English - Pickthal)

PAGAN9JA: Why does islam ask muslims to destroy the religious places of other religions?

No, islam never teaches that^^… below is what islam taught, you might see people engage in such nefarious act, but blame it on them not on islam cos islam teaches otherwise.

"Allah forbids you not, With regard to those who Fight you not for (your) Faith Nor drive you out Of your homes, From dealing kindly and justly With them: For Allah loveth Those who are just. (The Noble Quran, 60:8.

truthman2012: Islam is religion of the hypocrites. The quran teaches one thing but the prophet does another. If Muhammad was not a good muslim, who is?

Islam is a religion of peace according to muslims, but muslims are killing-happy. Did you say for defence? Evidences abound of jihads fought where people who never saw Muhammad before were killed and their wives taken by him. His jihadists slept with their wives in their presence before they were killed for nothing.

What a good manner in islam. Saying something alone does not matter, doing it does. It takes hypocricy to be a muslim.

"And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: 'To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant. ' (The Noble Quran, 28:55) "

malvisguy212: na only you know waitn dey do you, first ,you wrote glot now you wrote this, abi, jinn don possessed you?

i just dey gbadun you

Btw...what class are you? no offence meant oo

malvisguy212: the good thin is that you admit jesus called himself, the son of man and the son of the blessed one, who is the man? Or the blessed one? If you don't know the father of jesus , you do not know the true God.
You even sound confused, first you say jesus did not called himself son of God, and later you admit He called himself son of the blessed one, WHO IS THE BLESSED ONE IF IT NOT GOD?

ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, JESUS HAD 12 DISCIPLES, NOW HOW MANY DISCIPLES THE QURAN MENTION, CAN WE HERE THERE ACCOUNT?

IT WAS NO MAN THAT CALLED JESUS HIS SON, IT WAS GOD HIMSELF, BUT YOU SAID IT ONLY A PARABLE, OTHER PROPHET SAY THE SAME THIN, CAN WE HERE THERE PARABLE? THANK YOU

ne'er-do-well

vedaxcool: Op may Allah reward u, amin.

Ameeenah ya rabb...thank you bro

kuss: how does this stop terrorism across the globe

TheBigUrban2: Beating your wife is also a sign of good manners and chastity in islam
Surah 4:34

ne'er-do-well

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faval: .....u sound lyk a terrorist.....

how? tell me how i sound like terrorist or you are an idiot..

AlBaqir: Wa iyyakum dear brother. May Allah accept our ibaadat.

Ameeen

Jazakumulah brother Al baqir

mosque exempted though, cus mosque isnt a business outlet like the church..

true2god: Kindly explain how Peter praticed taqiyya and I will give you varios hadiths where taqiyya (holy lies) is sanctioned in Islam.

mumu...even Jesus practise taqiyya

Just that you guys dont read your buybull extensively..